I want to see a Lakers vs Suns series

[DAF86]

... In the 1st round of the playoffs. Phoenix could be a hard matchup for Los Angeles. Besides with the recent history (Lakers beign Suns bitches) and the Shaq vs Kobe drama. I think this could be a great and very tight series.

[SmellyFeet]

... In the 1st round of the playoffs. Phoenix could be a hard matchup for Los Angeles. Besides with the recent history (Lakers beign Suns bitches) and the Shaq vs Kobe drama. I think this could be a great and very tight series.

Are you serious? We own them.

[DAF86]

Are you serious? We own them.

Not in the last two playoffs seris that I remember.

[SmellyFeet]

Not in the last two playoffs seris that I remember.

You gotta stop leaving in the past. We own the west now baby.

[DAF86]

You ass clown, just come out and admit it. You dont want to face the Lakers. I dont even remember the last time the Suns beat us. Shaq's Suns have never beat the Lakers. I want the Spurs.

I admit it. My dream road to the championship: Thunder, Grizzles, Clippers, Wizards.

[Lakers_55]

The NBA probably wants to see the matchup. Too early for any team to worry about who they play in round 1. Some are just trying to get there and grab HCA if they can.

[DAF86]

You gotta stop leaving in the past. We own the west now baby.

I seriously think that the Suns could be a hard matchup for the Lakers.

LA biggest strength (frontcourt) won't be such an advantage against Shaq and Amare, the experience factor is pretty even too in fact I'd give the Suns a slight edge. And Nash is still one of the best PG in the league, so that's why I see a very tight series.

[Allanon]

The Suns don't matchup well with the Lakers. The Suns have lost to them I think 5-6 straight games now. Pretty much since the first game of the 2007 season.

And I don't recall but I think none of them have been close. It's quite a 180 turnaround from a few years ago when the Suns owned the Lakers.

[DAF86]

The Suns don't matchup well with the Lakers. The Suns have lost to them I think 5-6 straight games now. Pretty much since the first game of the 2007 season.

And I don't recall but I think none of them have been close. It's quite a 180 turnaround from a few years ago when the Suns owned the Lakers.

The playoffs are a whole diferent story.

[cobbler]

I seriously think that the Suns could be a hard matchup for the Lakers.

LA biggest strength (frontcourt) won't be such an advantage against Shaq and Amare, the experience factor is pretty even too in fact I'd give the Suns a slight edge. And Nash is still one of the best PG in the league, so that's why I see a very tight series.

The Lakers are the #1 offensive team in the league. The suns defense is horible at best. They have nobody that could guard Kobe. I would love to meet the Suns and send them packing in the 1st round. They barely beat the clippers today and let them score 100 +. Could the Suns pull out a game... maybe two? Possibly. 7 game series... no way!

[Allanon]

The playoffs are a whole diferent story.

Perhaps. The Playoffs certainly are different.

But even if you talk to Suns fans, they don't want to have anything to do with the Lakers in the Playoffs. I have a cousin that lives in Phoenix and he says his co-workers HATE the Lakers but don't want to play them either.

Lakers and Hornets are the Anti-Suns.

[dirk4mvp]

The playoffs are a whole diferent story.


Are you serious? Look at the personnel each team had. The Lakers would throttle the Suns.

[DAF86]

Are you serious? Look at the personnel each team had. The Lakers would throttle the Suns.

I think the Lakers would be favorites but I predict a very close series if these two meet.

[dirk4mvp]

I think the Lakers would be favorites but I predict a very close series if these two meet.


What evidence do you have that it would be close? The Mavs would have a better chance than the Suns would.

[mystargtr34]

I would really like to see this series aswell, only because there are so many interesting matchups all over the court. The Lakers won the first matchup with Shaq in the lineup pretty handily but with the way Shaq has been dominant lately i think it would be a lot closer. Add to that Jason Richardson who is a huge upgrade over Bell, every other team has alot more to worry about on that team.

Shaq vs Bynum
Amare vs Pau
Hill vs Ariza
Richardson vs Kobe
Nash vs Fisher

The Suns are probably the only team in the league that has an advantage over the Lakers in the frount court. Kobe would be forced to play on both ends of the court for the first time in a long time, and if Barnes continues to do what hes doing and Barbosa gets back to where he was, they could give the Lakers some real problems.

The Lakers would still go in favourites and probably take the series in 6 games but this Suns team has the potential to be pretty damn good.

[DAF86]

What evidence do you have that it would be close?

Gasol softness. I don't see him dominating Shaq or Amare. Which means, Kobe'll have to do it all by himself. And we all know that doesn't work most of the times.

[dirk4mvp]

Gasol softness. I don't see him dominating Shaq or Amare. Which means, Kobe'll have to do it all by himself. And we all know that doesn't work most of the times.


Since they've traded Bell, they hardly have anyone to stay with (clothesline) Kobe. Richardson? :lol Hill? :lol

[mystargtr34]

What evidence do you have that it would be close? The Mavs would have a better chance than the Suns would.

Suns > Mavs

[dirk4mvp]

Suns > Mavs


Mavs > Suns > Spurs

[mystargtr34]

Since they've traded Bell, they hardly have anyone to stay with (clothesline) Kobe. Richardson? :lol Hill? :lol

Matt Barnes. Not exactly a lock down guy, but hes bigger then Kobe and has pretty good quickness.

Besides, Raja Bell was getting torched everytime he faced Kobe since about 2006 so i dont think theyre losing much.

[mystargtr34]

Mavs > Suns > Spurs

I like your logic.

[SmellyFeet]

I think the Lakers would be favorites


I'd give the Suns a slight edge

Back paddle much?

[dirk4mvp]

I like your logic.


Yours makes about as much sense as mine.

[dirk4mvp]

Matt Barnes. Not exactly a lock down guy, but hes bigger then Kobe and has pretty good quickness.

Besides, Raja Bell was getting torched everytime he faced Kobe since about 2006 so i dont think theyre losing much.


Who?

If Bell, a guy who's a significantly better defender than Richardson, Hill, or Barnes was getting torched, these other guys just don't stand a chance.

[DAF86]

Back paddle much?

Did somebody teach you to read?


the experience factor is pretty even too in fact I'd give the Suns a slight edge.

[SmellyFeet]

Did somebody teach you to read?

You is still dumb. We own the suns.

[DAF86]

The Mavs would have a better chance than the Suns would.

The Mavs don't have a chance against the Lakers

[dirk4mvp]

The Mavs don't have a chance against the Lakers


Better chance than the Suns.

[mystargtr34]

Who?

If Bell, a guy who's a significantly better defender than Richardson, Hill, or Barnes was getting torched, these other guys just don't stand a chance.

Im not so sure that todays Bell is that much better than Barnes. He was reliant on his toughness and quickness to limit Kobe because hes only 6'5". Kobe has been abusing smaller defenders his entire career, its the ones with a height/size advantage who have length that have generally given him problems.

Its on the other end of the court that the Suns will benefit. Kobe will be forced to work against Richardson, that can only be a good thing for the Suns.

[DAF86]

Better chance than the Suns.

I give you my opinion, Why do you think the Mavs have more chance against the Lakers than the Suns?

[turiaf for president]

in contrast to other laker fans, i agree with the OP. if the suns stay healthy, they have a sick lineup to combat the lakers. shaq and amare can match up on drew and pau, nash and j rich can equal out kobe and fisher, and barbosa, barnes, and co are a serviceable bench for the suns. the difference tho is the lakers have kobe who can close games, and pau and drew are excellent FT shooters for big men, particularly pau. lakers should win that series but it wont be a cake walk by no means.

all that depends on the health of the suns core guys who are all old except amare. nash shaq and hill are all injury prone

[dirk4mvp]

I give you my opinion, Why do you think the Mavs have more chance against the Lakers than the Suns?

Your opinion was the Mavs wouldn't stand a chance. My opinion -


The Mavs would have a better chance than the Suns would.

[turiaf for president]

if i was the lakers, the easiest logical way to the finals is jazz, nuggets, and they spurs in any order

[pauls931]

All I ask for is someone other than the Lakers or Celtics to win it all this year... I'll even take a Spurs champship behind a Cavs or Suns one...

[DAF86]

Your opinion was the Mavs wouldn't stand a chance. My opinion -

WHY?

[turiaf for president]

A perect season for the LAkers would be to get the Suns, Hornets, Spurs, and then the Celtics in the Championship.

that would probably be the toughest road. i say this even tho i have spurs on my easiest, logical list because i think the spurs will make it to the WCF

[td4mvp21]

Better chance than the Suns.

Doubt it. I think a Mavs vs. Lakers series would be ugly (for the Mavs).

I'd like to see this series too. Not because I think the Suns would be tough for the Lakers but just because it would be fun to watch. I like watching Suns-Lakers games and now that Shaq is on the Suns it's even better. I LMAO last season when the Lakers bitchslapped Phoenix in nearly every meeting.

[turiaf for president]

^ yes that would be ideal. but i always said becareful what you wish for. ill take the easier route and have a higher change at victory and less wear and tear on kobe over anything daggers or statement series anyday =D.

im going to tonights game. crappy 300 level seats but oh well better than nothing. wade v kobe!!

[mystargtr34]

The toughest road for the Lakers would probably be a healthy Utah/Houston, Suns and the Spurs. Even with the recent loss to the Hornets i still think they match up better with them than with the other top 4. If Houston or Utah is missing one of its pieces, which is a 99.9% probability, the Lakers win in 4 or 5.

[cobbler]

What everyone is forgetting is the age factor and the benches. Odom has torched the Suns on a regular basis. Pau actually plays Amare pretty well and Amare has no D to handle Pau from the outside. Shaq will wear down by the middle of the 3rd qtr. Richardson on Kobe? :lmao Nash's D is probably the worst PG defense in the league. Do they even have a backup PG?

Lakers in 5. 6 if there is some miracle the Suns pull off.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

lmao @ Dirk4mvp calling the Mavs > the Suns fresh off Friday's ass raping.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You is still dumb. We own the suns.

Not in 2006 or 2007. I'm not saying Phoenix would win the series but it would be a 6 or 7 game series.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lakers would beat the Suns mainly cause Gasol & Odom love soft defenders, especially ones named Amare.

[SmellyFeet]

Not in 2006 or 2007. I'm not saying Phoenix would win the series but it would be a 6 or 7 game series.

English motherfucker, do you speak it?

"Own" = present. Why do you keep bringing 06/07? it's 2009 now babeh, and we owned you for a couple years now.

[Ghazi]

lmao @ Dirk4mvp calling the Mavs > the Suns fresh off Friday's ass raping.

The Mavs kicked the Suns ass earlier in the season too, or does it go by who won the most recent game? If that's the case, Bobcats > Celtics.

The Suns are not very good at all, neither are the Mavs for that matter. Boths chances against the Lakers would be around 0% assuming everyone was healthy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The Mavs kicked the Suns ass earlier in the season too, or does it go by who won the most recent game? If that's the case, Bobcats > Celtics.

They beat the Suns when Matt Barnes was starting and before J-Rich came to town.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

English motherfucker, do you speak it?

"Own" = present. Why do you keep bringing 06/07? it's 2009 now babeh, and we owned you for a couple years now.

I wasn't aware beating the Suns by 5 in Staples center w/o Shaq or Richardson was considered "owning".

[SmellyFeet]

I wasn't aware beating the Suns by 5 in Staples center w/o Shaq or Richardson was considered "owning".

I noticed you didn't include the game where we beat you with shaq and richardson. Selective memory much?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Why do you keep bringing 06/07? it's 2009 now babeh

Why am I not allowed to bring up 2006 or 2007 when all the Laker fans talk about is 2000-2002 when comparing Kobe to LeBron? It's hypocritical.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I noticed you didn't include the game where we beat you with shaq and richardson. Selective memory much?

What game where they beat the Suns w/ Shaq and J-Rich? Show me please.

[SmellyFeet]

Why am I not allowed to bring up 2006 or 2007 when all the Laker fans talk about is 2000-2002 when comparing Kobe to LeBron? It's hypocritical.

Who gives a shit about those laker fans? you're talking to me now biatch, stick to the subject.

Or as SD would put it, "this thread is not about kobe, it's about the lakers owning the shitty suns".

[SmellyFeet]

What game where they beat the Suns w/ Shaq and J-Rich? Show me please.

What's your record against us for the last couple of years?:toast

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What's your record against us for the last couple of years?:toast

I don't have a record against you, the SUNS record against the LAKERS (note the usage of 3rd person and proper English) has been 1-5 the last two years, however 0-2 is more accurate because the first 3 games were with a completely different team and the last 1 half the Suns team was injured (Marion instead of Shaq is important).


Can you please tell me about this supposed win against the Suns when J-Rich and Shaq played?

[SmellyFeet]

I don't have a record against you, the SUNS record against the LAKERS (note the usage of 3rd person and proper English) has been 1-5 the last two years, however 0-2 is more accurate because the first 3 games were with a completely different team and the last 1 half the Suns team was injured (Marion instead of Shaq is important).


Can you please tell me about this supposed win against the Suns when J-Rich and Shaq played?

So for the last 2 years, we owned you 5-1?

Good. That's all I needed to know.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So for the last 2 years, we owned you 5-1?

Good. That's all I needed to know.

you didn't own me, the LAKERS owned the SUNS. You seem to struggle with the difference between 1st and 3rd person.

[SmellyFeet]

you didn't own me, the LAKERS owned the SUNS. You seem to struggle with the difference between 1st and 3rd person.

Stop being a biatch. That's how fans talk.

Lakers own the suns.

Did that make you feel better?:)

[Darthkiller]

the suns dont wann see lakers in the first round, lakers is the best team in the west. no one wants to see the lakers in the first rouond. I dont think the suns will see the lakers in the frist round though, more likely to be the blazers or jazz.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Stop being a biatch. That's how fans talk.

No, it's how Laker fans that have convinced themselves they are a major contributor to the Laker's success talk.

I know proper English isn't taught extremely well at Compton Elementary so I should be more understanding. "Ebonics 101" has a few chapters that cover LA.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

the suns dont wann see lakers in the first round, lakers is the best team in the west. no one wants to see the lakers in the first rouond. I dont think the suns will see the lakers in the frist round though, more likely to be the blazers or jazz.

Of course I don't want Phoenix to play LA in the first round, the whole point is Phoenix would be a tougher than usual first round matchup for LA that could win a few games to drag the series out, pardon the LA fans for their defensive listening and argumentative nature.

[SmellyFeet]

No, it's how Laker fans that have convinced themselves they are a major contributor to the Laker's success talk.

I know proper English isn't taught extremely well at Compton Elementary so I should be more understanding. "Ebonics 101" has a few chapters that cover LA.

you mad?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

you mad?

I've been mad at fans who refer to the team they root for as we loooooooooong before this argument.

[cobbler]

No, it's how Laker fans that have convinced themselves they are a major contributor to the Laker's success talk.

I know proper English isn't taught extremely well at Compton Elementary so I should be more understanding. "Ebonics 101" has a few chapters that cover LA.

It's very common on sports forums to talk in the 3rd person. Bringing it down to a racial level is petty and only shows your ignorance and pathetic character as a person.

[cobbler]

the suns dont wann see lakers in the first round, lakers is the best team in the west. no one wants to see the lakers in the first rouond. I dont think the suns will see the lakers in the frist round though, more likely to be the blazers or jazz.

Unless the Suns get their act together.... they may not even be in the first round. :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's very common on sports forums to talk in the 3rd person. Bringing it down to a racial level is petty and only shows your ignorance as well as pathetic character.

How is it racial, I know plenty of retarded white people who speak in Ebonics.


PS - 3rd person is the way I'm saying people SHOULD refer to their teams, 1st person is using words such as "I" or "we".

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Unless the Suns get their act together.... they may not even be in the first round. :lol

Idk, they suck right now but Houston and Dallas are shitty as well. I'd rather them miss the playoffs then lose in the 1st round, that gets old after awhile.

[YellowFever]

I admit it. My dream road to the championship: Thunder, Grizzles, Clippers, Wizards.

LoL...

you're a smart guy. :toast

[pauls931]

Idk, they suck right now but Houston and Dallas are shitty as well. I'd rather them miss the playoffs then lose in the 1st round, that gets old after awhile.

It's only happened once in recent history....

[Armando]

I rather see the young inexperience Blazers in a 7 game series.

[cobbler]

How is it racial, I know plenty of retarded white people who speak in Ebonics.


Nice try! When you comment on Compton and Ebonics in the same reference we all know what your implying.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Nice try! When you comment on Compton and Ebonics in the same reference we all know what your implying.

OK, whatever, I didn't make it about race, you did, I'm not responding to any accusations of me being racist after this post. In fact the ignore button comes in handy here.

[cobbler]

OK, whatever, I didn't make it about race, you did, I'm not responding to any accusations of me being racist after this post. In fact the ignore button comes in handy here.

No... you did...and i called you on it... and now your backpeddling like the pussy you are.

:lol

[pauls931]

Are you serious? We own them.

Not if you play them like you did when they were short handed after the richardson trade... If you play to your potential, you should have no problem. But I agree, it would be a very entertaining series.

[GetNashty]

Lakers v Suns in the WCF

book it

[DAF86]

Bump

[DrHouse]

If Andrew Bynum is able to play in the series Sun fan will wish he never commented in this thread.

The bottom line is sans Bynum the Lakers are an elite team. Not the favorites, but definitely an elite team that COULD make it to the Finals and win it all.

With Bynum, the discussion completely changes. Bynum is the piece that would turn a competitive series between the Lakers and Suns into a Laker blowout. He would simply make the Shaq matchup not an issue anymore.

[Xylus]

I've wanted to play the Lakers in the postseason all year. If we make it into the playoffs, I think we'll have that chance.

[Kobe™]

No homecooking in the post season kiddies
I'd love to see L.A. sweep your guys asses out across the floor come April.

[DAF86]

This would be probably the toughest first round oponent for the Lakers.

[DrHouse]

The Suns are the toughest matchup period of Bynum is not available to play.

Nobody else could really give the Lakers trouble because nobody else has a Center as dominant as Shaq.

The Spurs are actually less of an issue than the Suns for LA.

[der Kaiser]

I still think Phoenix is too small, even with Shaq playing all juiced up. They would not be a cakewalk ala Denver but still too small.


Lets face it in the playoffs when you have time to prepare things are different. That and the Lakers will get most of the calls. Ho Yeah!

[Xylus]

The Suns are the toughest matchup period of Bynum is not available to play.

Nobody else could really give the Lakers trouble because nobody else has a Center as dominant as Shaq.

The Spurs are actually less of an issue than the Suns for LA.

I agree that if Bynum is back and healthy, and we have no Amare to cancel out Gasol, then the Suns would be fucked against the Lakers. Without Bynum, the Suns are able to push the pace faster than the Lakers are comfortable with, and it closes the gap. Lakers would still be the favorites, of course, but it's not as lopsided as most Lakers fans think.

[Xylus]

Make the playoffs and you will get your wish.

My boys are working on it. Injuries aren't helping us at all, though.

[Muser]

I'd love to see Bynum make shaq his bitch, then presenters could get off the shaq/kobe dick.

[Ghazi]

Suns will crumble during this road trip.

[Xylus]

I'd love to see Bynum make shaq his bitch, then presenters could get off the shaq/kobe dick.

Of the 4 Suns-Lakers matchups this season, Shaq and Bynum have only played each other once. Shaq had 15 and 8, Bynum had 10 and 7. Wasn't much ownage going on.

[pauls931]

Suns will crumble during this road trip.

I thereby dub thee... "Most Bitter Mavs Fan of the NBA 2008/2009 Season". Congratulations.:toast

[Ghazi]

You must be bitter.

[turiaf for president]

couple losses to playoff caliber teams isnt the end of the world. lakers need to shore up their D and just ride the wave to the 1st seed in the west.

[Spur-Addict]

couple losses to playoff caliber teams isnt the end of the world. lakers need to shore up their D and just ride the wave to the 1st seed in the west.

http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7925650119/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/08/StewieGriffin2_400w.jpg

Yes yes, ride the wave. I'm not sure what's worse, your insufferable comments, or your complete lack of basketball etiquette. Begone Laker Vermin!

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

Lakers take 3-1 season series , I'll take it. But what's up with Sasha. Is this the way you perform after getting resing. Oh Boy! Mitch K must be having nightmares on Sashas shooting. He wishes that he would've gone after Turiaf. at least you get full effort from him. The bench hasn't showed up in the last two games. Kobe and Pau are the ones keeping them in the ball game. This last two games couldve gone our way but the rest of the team were a no show in parts of the game. Were still in the front seat in the WC. But you don't want to start playing the game of its only one game, that could comeback to haunt you. We haven't had a three game skid. With Memphis coming into staples, in paper that game should be a win. I would not be surprise if they come in and make it a game.

[BeeGee]

Yeh, I'm sure David $tern wants to see Lakers v Suns too. Only 22 games to go. If we have Drew back and homecourt advantage, I'll be happy.

[mystargtr34]

The Suns are the toughest matchup period of Bynum is not available to play.

Nobody else could really give the Lakers trouble because nobody else has a Center as dominant as Shaq.

The Spurs are actually less of an issue than the Suns for LA.

A healthy Bynum obviously makes a huge difference, especially against a team with a C like Shaq. But even with both teams at full strength, the Suns are the only team that can match the Lakers in terms of size, and better size at that. As much as Bynum has developed, Shaq is still the better, and more dominant player. Amare and Pau probably cancel each other out.

The Lakers would still go in as favourites obviously, but the Suns would give them alot of problems.

[iggypop123]

without bynum the suns can present problems for the lakers as evidence shaq destroying gasol with elbows and hands. but if bynum is playing the suns are just another denver like last seasons playoff