Spurs Dunk Stats

[Punkkboy44]

Through games of Jan 5 2009...27 team total...27..dead last in the NBA..Indiana with 61..next worst..so they have almost 3 times as many...Denver on top with 222..

[Nathan Explosion]

Duncan finishes at the rim with a lot of layups. He was never an athletic guy to begin with, but as long as he and the team is finishing at the rim, it doesn't matter how many dunks they have.

[Austin_Toros]

spurs fans have to admit, that is a pretty embarrassing statistic. not only are spurs last- they are wayyyy down the line.
but i suppose that's just due to the way the spurs play ball

[FromWayDowntown]

Dunks = championships!

[mrspurs]

Thats just plain sad. No more, no less.

[jman3000]

Well shit.. who really dunks?

Timmy when he's not in traffic.

Manu when he has space and a running start.

I've seen Bonner, Parker, Finley, and Bowen dunk.. but you could count all their dunks this year on 1 hand.

George Hill is the only one I can think of that can actually dunk with any kind of authority... and even he has to have space.


I'd imagine our layups statistics lead the league.

[Yorae]

Maybe we lead the league in layups.

[tlongII]

Where do you get these statistics from?

[angelbelow]

i care more about the ft line stat. thats the potential gamechanger stat.

[HarlemHeat37]

dunking is the most overrated part of basketball, it's not even close..

Oklahoma City is 2nd in dunks, which shows a lot..

also, the Spurs were last in dunks in 2006-2007..guess what happened that season?..

I agree that we should get to the FT line more though..the positive is that we also allow the least amount of FTA per game as well..

[gingerwave]

Dunks = championships!

Wins = championships! Dunks are fun to watch but as long as the ball falls through the net i'm fine.:flag:

[ManuTP9]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/Vince%20Carter/vc%20gif%20photos/overduncan.gif Come on Timmy :depressed

[jack sommerset]

I think it just means they are old.

[HarlemHeat37]

it has nothing to do with age..these are similar numbers to our title years..

[mVp]

James White!

[samikeyp]

Irrelevant.

[peskypesky]

Maybe we lead the league in layups.

:rollin

[Stump]

Dang. Might as well tank the season.

[Yorae]

Every time a spurs player dunks, he gets salary deduction.

[bdictjames]

We have more wins.

[mVp]

Wait... dunk? what is that? you mean dunk the ball??? is it legal to do that?? WTF?!?

[Yorae]

Ssshhh. It's taboo. He's watching us.

[samikeyp]

We have more wins.

+1

The only thing that matters.

[tav1]

http://48minutesofhell.blogspot.com/2009/01/tim-duncans-new-habits.html

[lefty]

Dunks = championships!

Amare, is that you?

[diego]

Maybe we lead the league in layups.

actually the big 3 score inside they just dont dunk, they should be up there in layups.. anyone know where to find that?

[Punkkboy44]

tlongII,,,I actually watch replays of every single NBA game..I never sleep..I count dunks ..

[mrspurs]

Dang. Might as well tank the season.

:lol

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Through games of Jan 5 2009...27 team total...27..dead last in the NBA..Indiana with 61..next worst..so they have almost 3 times as many...Denver on top with 222..

And yet, Denver is the Spurs' doormat, and launching pad:

2005: won 4-1 in the first round, won NBA Championship
2007: in case you thought that was a fluke... won 4-1 first round, won NBA Championship


Despite Denver's tin-man tough-guy image. Despite their posturing. Despite their, yes, dunking.

Gee, wow, maybe dunks..... AREN'T IMPORTANT??????

[wisnub]

lots of people in this forum somehow despise dunks, whether its an excuse because Spurs is in the last dunk stats or they just think that is irrelevant for championship. Dunks got nothing to do with championship,everybody knows that. All dunks do are creating ESPN or NBA TV highlights and attract more or newbie fans to watch them play which makes games more interesting. Dunks also can means more assurance in scoring points since in NBA level 95% of players dunk successfully (unlike some amateur games), all defender can do is foul the dunker or praying for a miss (most common reaction is getting out of his way). Duncan used to dunk alot back in his early days, it was exciting...but i think win is more important than some flashy moves. But 27?? I guess it doesnt hurt to do it just a little bit more....

[Austin_Toros]

yeah, might as well bring back James White!

[KidCongo]

Spurs are 10th in the NBA at finishing inside at .605%.

http://www.82games.com/0809/FGTEAM12.HTM

Closest thing I could find to lay-ups but i suppose this stat includes dunks.

[mathbzh]

Spurs are 10th in the NBA at finishing inside at .605%.

http://www.82games.com/0809/FGTEAM12.HTM

Closest thing I could find to lay-ups but i suppose this stat includes dunks.

They are also last in attempts inside with only 26%.
Don't know if that really matters.

I just checked the winning% for teams.

The first 10 teams in inside attempts win 50%
The next 10 win 41%
The last 10 win 58%

In every category you have good and bad teams so I don't know if there is anything significant there. But at least it does not look too bad to be a jump shooting team.

[DarrinS]

Do dunks count as more points?

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[rascal]

Spurs play under the rim much like a WNBA team.

[sonic21]

sadly, dunks seem to overrate some players in the media

[rascal]

Dunks signify athleticism. The spurs are dead last in athleticism. I don't know why Pop is so against adding players with athleticism and except for 2 or 3 players would rather have a team full of jump shooters.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Dunks = 2 pts.

[rascal]

Dunks = 2 pts.


Dunks are a high % shot. So the more you can make the better.

[m33p0]

They are also last in attempts inside with only 26%.
Don't know if that really matters.

I just checked the winning% for teams.

The first 10 teams in inside attempts win 50%
The next 10 win 41%
The last 10 win 58%

In every category you have good and bad teams so I don't know if there is anything significant there. But at least it does not look too bad to be a jump shooting team.
do you have the list of teams in this category? I wouldn't be surprised that teams belonging to that group have a dominant low post player with several shooters surrounding him. while teams in the first category are primarily dribble drive teams.
however, at 41%-58% range, it's too far from conclusive to say which strategy is best.

[Kori Ellis]

When I posted this stat in another thread a couple weeks back, I mentioned that the only thing that bothers me about not dunking is that it's another indicator of not being aggressive near the basket. The Spurs are near the bottom (at the bottom?) in the league at getting to the foul line. So, though I don't care that they don't dunk, they can definitely improve in driving to the hoop and getting to the line. Get extra free throws is good no matter how much you want to analyze it.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Dunks are a high % shot. So the more you can make the better.

Denver, who leads the league in dunks (as if that's a real stat) is shooting at essentially the same percentage as San Antonio (47%).


Could be that dunks are indicative of absolutely nothing at all.

[mathbzh]

do you have the list of teams in this category? I wouldn't be surprised that teams belonging to that group have a dominant low post player with several shooters surrounding him. while teams in the first category are primarily dribble drive teams.
however, at 41%-58% range, it's too far from conclusive to say which strategy is best.

I guess there is a variety of reason to belong to one or the other category.

To answer your question The team in each group, ordered (Utah is #1, Toronto #30)

Teams 1/3: Utah, Phi, Cha, Den, Min, OKC, Bos, Hou, Lac, Lal
Teams 2/3: Mil, NYK, Pho, Chi, GSW, IND, NJN, SAC, Mem, Orl
Teams 3/3: Was, Det, Cle, Noh, Por, Mia, Dal, ATL, SAS, TOR

[it's me]

Dunks are overvalued.

[ClingingMars]

Dunks = championships!

[Il Caraibico]

Oklahoma City is 2nd in dunks

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[Dr. Gonzo]

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[de Soto]

Through games of Jan 5 2009...27 team total...27..dead last in the NBA..Indiana with 61..next worst..so they have almost 3 times as many...Denver on top with 222..

Great...and what has Denver accomplished with their dunks?:rolleyes

[rascal]

Denver, who leads the league in dunks (as if that's a real stat) is shooting at essentially the same percentage as San Antonio (47%).


Could be that dunks are indicative of absolutely nothing at all.

Reason being that there are far fewer dunks than other shots overall so it doesn't make that big of a splash in overall shooting % but dunks are no doubt a higher % shot .

[rascal]

Dunks are overvalued.


Dunks are great shots if you can even call them shots. They fire up the home crowd are an exciting play and are an easy 2 points.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Dunks are...2 points.

[rascal]

When I posted this stat in another thread a couple weeks back, I mentioned that the only thing that bothers me about not dunking is that it's another indicator of not being aggressive near the basket. The Spurs are near the bottom (at the bottom?) in the league at getting to the foul line. So, though I don't care that they don't dunk, they can definitely improve in driving to the hoop and getting to the line. Get extra free throws is good no matter how much you want to analyze it.

lack of free throws: Another good point why dunks is an indicator of agressively going to the basket.

Its not a good thing to be at the bottom in dunks any way you want to spin it.

[I Love Me Some Me]

lack of free throws: Another good point why dunks is an indicator of agressively going to the basket.

Its not a good thing to be at the bottom in dunks any way you want to spin it.

Of the top 10 leaders in free throw attempts per game, only 4 are also in the top 10 in the number of dunks they have this year.

It may not be a good thing to be at the bottom of dunks, but there is also no way to spin it to convince anyone it's necessarily a bad thing either.

[Fernando TD21]

When I posted this stat in another thread a couple weeks back, I mentioned that the only thing that bothers me about not dunking is that it's another indicator of not being aggressive near the basket. The Spurs are near the bottom (at the bottom?) in the league at getting to the foul line. So, though I don't care that they don't dunk, they can definitely improve in driving to the hoop and getting to the line. Get extra free throws is good no matter how much you want to analyze it.
I remember that thread and I think there were some good points there about the advantages or disadvantages of dunking.


Reason being that there are far fewer dunks than other shots overall so it doesn't make that big of a splash in overall shooting % but dunks are no doubt a higher % shot .


Dunks are great shots if you can even call them shots. They fire up the home crowd are an exciting play and are an easy 2 points.

I agree, I think that dunks might have some importance. It's "only" 2 points but it's a high percentage shot. If we consider only the points and ignore the percentage, then we should shoot 3s the entire game. And it may also influence the emotional aspect of the game, firing up the team.

We can't associate dunks to the success of a team. Bad teams that dunks a lot will still be bad teams. Good teams that doesn't dunk will still be good teams. But that doesn't mean that dunks doesn't make them a little better or worse.

The Spurs really can't be at the top of this categorie, given their lack of atlheticism and even their style of play, but I think they could and should be a little better.

[DMX7]

Some teams can get that many dunks in like 2 games.

[Blake]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Spurs are last in dunks but 6th in 3 point attempts per game......(currently 1st in 3pt FG % at 40.3)

[LEONARD]

Dwight Howard > Spurs

[ClingingMars]

Dwight Howard > Spurs

you would think a Celtics fan would understand this:

:lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt:

-Mars

[howbouthemspurs]

dunks are definately overrated. Duncan can still dunk with authority when he wants to, he just choses the smarter shot

[howbouthemspurs]

Dwight Howard > Spurs

one on one, Dwight Howard would have no chance against Tim Duncan even today. He got most of his points off rebounds, turn overs, and crafty passing under the basket. Thats the only place where he can score. Duncan would eat him up alive.:hat

[LEONARD]

you would think a Celtics fan would understand this:

:lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt:

-Mars

Oh I do...Celtics > Spurs


one on one, Dwight Howard would have no chance against Tim Duncan even today. He got most of his points off rebounds, turn overs, and crafty passing under the basket. Thats the only place where he can score. Duncan would eat him up alive.:hat

Duncan has 100x more dunks...no way he can guard him 1 on 1...