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tlongII
01-13-2009, 11:22 AM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

EricB
01-13-2009, 11:24 AM
When has Ginobili Parker, or uhm, a power forward in Duncan, ever done that?


2003 Bowen lead the league.

05 I think Barry was up there

07 I believe no one was really up there.


So your flawed arguement, holds even less water.

BG_Spurs_Fan
01-13-2009, 11:27 AM
I think you've just made a point that the Spurs are deffinitely not in trouble.

Dex
01-13-2009, 11:28 AM
Yeahhhh, this is a weak argument. The only one of the Big Three I even want taking three pointers is Manu, and he's never had a league-leading percentage.

Even considering that, he's the one I'd want shooting the three to tie or win. Mason is quickly moving up to a close second in that regard though.

The Big Three have their roles, and they are not to stand on the perimeter.

ClingingMars
01-13-2009, 11:29 AM
I think you've just made a point that the Spurs are deffinitely not in trouble.

EricB
01-13-2009, 11:29 AM
I'm still waiting on troll Tlong's answer.

CubanMustGo
01-13-2009, 11:30 AM
Tlong likes to stir up shit and then run and hide when his arguments are proven flawed. Nothing new here.

Bartleby
01-13-2009, 11:33 AM
Darius Miles

:lmao

urunobili
01-13-2009, 11:35 AM
where is the Epic Fail troll when you need it...

ClingingMars
01-13-2009, 11:37 AM
Darius Miles

:lmao

:lol :lol :lol

-Mars

sonic21
01-13-2009, 11:39 AM
why the blazers are in trouble

their supposed future franchise player is a bust

ChumpDumper
01-13-2009, 11:42 AM
Greg Oden's three point shooting percentage is 0.000.

Cry Havoc
01-13-2009, 11:42 AM
Darius Miles

:lmao

:rollin

TheMadHatter
01-13-2009, 11:43 AM
I'd say because of the fact that the Spurs lead the league in 3pt shooting they are in trouble.

I'll let you guys chew on that for awhile.

spurs_fan_in_exile
01-13-2009, 11:50 AM
Michael Jordan was always sweating bullets this time of year waiting for the other shoe to drop on Steve Kerr.

EricB
01-13-2009, 12:01 PM
I'd say because of the fact that the Spurs lead the league in 3pt shooting they are in trouble.

I'll let you guys chew on that for awhile.

Yeah really killed them in 2007

Oh wait....

de Soto
01-13-2009, 12:02 PM
I think you've just made a point that the Spurs are deffinitely not in trouble.

:rollin

sa_butta
01-13-2009, 12:10 PM
Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

If you have 4 guys starting or not shooting 40% or higher that, is no
reason to believe we are in trouble. Maybe if they made Brandon Roys dunks worth 3 points, he could be shooting above 40% as well.:lol

m33p0
01-13-2009, 12:24 PM
coming from you, that means absolutely nothing.

on another game, what would be the odds memphis plays miles? i say the odds are good. :toast

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2009, 12:25 PM
this might be the worst argument I've ever heard..regarding any subject..

MeIII
01-13-2009, 12:27 PM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

You are an idiot. :lol

Bruce Bowen and Finley have proven to be playoff performers without a question.

Bonner is still up in the air.

Mason is clutch. Period.

The Spurs are in trouble because they actually have players outside of the Big 3 who are among the league's best 3 pt shooters. Did this epiphany come out of no where to you, genius?

mexicanjunior
01-13-2009, 12:31 PM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

That doesn't make any sense...Parker and Duncan have never been 3 point shooters. I don't expect Finley and Bonner to keep up this pace but Mason and Bowen could easily, especially with Bowen's shots being so limited...

1usamotorsports.com
01-13-2009, 12:44 PM
I dont like the way bonner chokes when we play a good team

rascal
01-13-2009, 12:45 PM
Mason Finley and Bowen should maintain close to their current levels. I expect Bonner to drop off some but he doesn't take enough shots to really matter.

pawe
01-13-2009, 12:47 PM
I think Tlong's nose is already bleeding wherever he is.

zepn
01-13-2009, 02:20 PM
I'd say because of the fact that the Spurs lead the league in 3pt shooting they are in trouble.

I'll let you guys chew on that for awhile.

Spurs lead the league in 3pt PERCENTAGE. That's never a bad thing.

Chew on that.

ClingingMars
01-13-2009, 02:21 PM
This thread should be renamed "Why the Spurs AREN'T in trouble..."

-Mars

hater
01-13-2009, 02:22 PM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

This kind of logic is like saying Spurs are in trouble because their mascot is a coyote

it's me
01-13-2009, 02:43 PM
Sombody got OWNED :lol

PDXSpursFan
01-13-2009, 03:27 PM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

Wow, that's the weakest argument I've heard in a long time. You don't need much IQ to figure out that it is actually the other way aroung. Those role players are shooting opens 3's because our Big 3's are drawing a lot of attention on the paint from defenders.

ManuTP9
01-13-2009, 04:33 PM
the Spurs will be fine , and Roger Mason aka money Mase will still be firing 3,s later in the season and in the playoffs.

MeIII
01-13-2009, 04:43 PM
The main reason the Hornets series went 7 is because no one could make a 3 out of the TD double teams.

With Money Mason, hopefully that won't be reality again this year.

HarlemHeat37
01-13-2009, 07:08 PM
it's not only Mason..obviously he's there, but Finley is MUCH better than last year, and so is Matt..

a healthy Manu makes a difference as well..he looks to be getting back into form..he looks better from a physical standpoint right now, compared to last years playoffs..

tlongII
01-13-2009, 07:54 PM
You guys just don't get it. The reason the Spurs have been successful this season is directly attributable to their 3 point shooting. The rate at which they are making threes is unlikely to continue.

ChumpDumper
01-13-2009, 08:17 PM
That wasn't your initial point at all.

You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

Yorae
01-13-2009, 08:23 PM
I think it's more of a personal wish that our shooter's won't shoot that way the rest of the year.

Shastafarian
01-13-2009, 08:26 PM
Currently 9-10 on the road and 11-12 in the conference. If you can't win on the road then you won't go far in the playoffs (assuming you make the playoffs).

EricB
01-13-2009, 08:31 PM
I got owned badly so now I'm just babbling incoherently.


FIFY

senorglory
01-13-2009, 09:05 PM
The Big Three have their roles, and they are not to stand on the perimeter.

Exactly. Bonner, Mason, Finley, and Bowen, are role players... they are the ones that are supposed to hit the threes in this offense, that is their role.

ClingingMars
01-13-2009, 09:13 PM
You guys just don't get it. The reason the Spurs have been successful this season is directly attributable to their 3 point shooting. The rate at which they are making threes is unlikely to continue.

why? they are all regularly good 3 PT shooters (except for Bonner, but we always knew he could jack it up there). Finley is in shape this year, Mason is young...what logical reasoning do you have for this? (with the exception of Bonner's %)

-Mars

Shastafarian
01-13-2009, 09:17 PM
why? they are all regularly good 3 PT shooters (except for Bonner, but we always knew he could jack it up there). Finley is in shape this year, Mason is young...what logical reasoning do you have for this? (with the exception of Bonner's %)

-Mars


Regression. Problem is he doesn't take into account that one FG% might go up and the other(s) might go down, which wouldn't have that large of an effect on the whole.

ClingingMars
01-13-2009, 09:20 PM
Regression. Problem is he doesn't take into account that one FG% might go up and the other(s) might go down, which wouldn't have that large of an effect on the whole.

yeah but the only person who really has the possibility of going stone cold is Bonner due to lack of confidence, aka old Bonner.

also, Bruce's % is deceptive because he doesn't get as many minutes or shots anymore.

-Mars

senorglory
01-13-2009, 09:33 PM
regular season team averages:

3PM 3PA 3P%
2003 SAS 449 1270 0.354
2004 Det 333 968 0.344
2005 SAS 507 1395 0.363
2006 Mia 497 1441 0.345
2007 SAS 595 1561 0.381
2008 Bos 596 1564 0.381

Shastafarian
01-13-2009, 09:37 PM
regular season team averages:

3PM 3PA 3P%
2003 SAS 449 1270 0.354
2004 Det 333 968 0.344
2005 SAS 507 1395 0.363
2006 Mia 497 1441 0.345
2007 SAS 595 1561 0.381
2008 Bos 596 1564 0.381

Spurs shooting 40.3% right now.

m33p0
01-13-2009, 11:27 PM
You guys just don't get it. The reason the Spurs have been successful this season is directly attributable to their 3 point shooting. The rate at which they are making threes is unlikely to continue.
yes coz they'll be dunking the ball from now til june.

KaiRMD1
01-14-2009, 12:08 AM
I tell you what, if this constitutes them being in trouble then I WISH they'd be in trouble like this every season

Mr.Bottomtooth
01-14-2009, 07:51 AM
This kind of logic is like saying Spurs are in trouble because their mascot is a coyote

:lmao

tlongII
01-14-2009, 10:02 AM
That wasn't your initial point at all.

You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

Actually it was, but I didn't really expect you to grasp it anyway.

anakha
01-14-2009, 10:05 AM
Actually it was, but I didn't really expect you to grasp it anyway.

You should have gone with a stat showing what percentage of the team's scoring is generated on threes.

Killakobe81
01-14-2009, 10:38 AM
Spurs look good going to game tonight first one at the AT&T looking forward to it Laker fans should be well represented ...

Rogue
01-14-2009, 10:44 AM
TD shoots the 3s only when he has to. TP has never shown any capability in shooting so he is not expected to shoot the mid-rang two, never to mention the 3s.

Manu decreases significantly from last season, his 3s in particular. But manu is still pretty threatening with his other offensive skills. Bonner and Finley and Mason are good shooters but they can hardly do anything other than that. Bowen only shoots the ball at the two corners, and in most cases they are wide open shots. Bowen is ignorable at the offensive end and his 3s doesn't make any difference on that, I mean the opponents don't think they need to arrange any pressure on him though he can hit some easy 3s occasionally.

anakha
01-14-2009, 10:54 AM
TP has never shown any capability in shooting so he is not expected to shoot the mid-rang two, never to mention the 3s.


:lmao :lmao :lmao

z0sa
01-14-2009, 11:23 AM
regular season team averages:

3PM 3PA 3P%
2003 SAS 449 1270 0.354
2004 Det 333 968 0.344
2005 SAS 507 1395 0.363
2006 Mia 497 1441 0.345
2007 SAS 595 1561 0.381
2008 Bos 596 1564 0.381

Are those real numbers? Pretty crazy how much 3pt shooting has to do with winning nowadays.

Spork KIller
01-14-2009, 02:28 PM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

The best 3-point shooting team is the Magic by far...

The old ass sperms are not!

DrHouse
01-14-2009, 03:16 PM
Points in the paint. I'd like to see how the Spurs are doing in that area this season compared to previous. That would be more telling in conjunction with this stat.

manufor3
01-14-2009, 07:01 PM
The best 3-point shooting team is the Magic by far...

The old ass sperms are not!

dont you get tired of being stupid?

HarlemHeat37
01-14-2009, 08:29 PM
we're 17th in points in the paint..

in 2007-2008, we were 22nd..in 2006-2007, we were 14th..in 2005-2006, we were 17th..in 2004-2005, we were 11th..

we're around where we usually are..the stats are skewed this year and the last though, because of injuries to Manu and Parker..Tony is obviously important in this stat, since he's always among the leaders for points in the paint..

senorglory
01-26-2009, 12:14 AM
we're 17th in points in the paint..

in 2007-2008, we were 22nd..in 2006-2007, we were 14th..in 2005-2006, we were 17th..in 2004-2005, we were 11th..

we're around where we usually are..the stats are skewed this year and the last though, because of injuries to Manu and Parker..Tony is obviously important in this stat, since he's always among the leaders for points in the paint..

... and, not only that, the Spurs are scoring 42.5% of their points in the paint, according to NBA.com, more than the Lakers, Cavs, and Magic.

Rogue
01-26-2009, 12:59 AM
The best 3-point shooting team is the Magic by far...

The old ass sperms are not!
http://i40.tinypic.com/n6td0w.gif

Ditty
01-26-2009, 01:06 AM
They lead the league in 3 point shooting at 40.3 % but their Big 3 are not the ones doing it.

Matt Bonner 47.5%
Roger Mason 46.9%
Bruce Bowen 46.8 %
Michael Finley 40.0 %

These are the Spurs' top 3 point shooters. Do you really expect them to shoot at this level throughout the year? I say they all drop to below 40 % by the end of the season.

so who's first to leave portland :depressed

Ditty
01-26-2009, 01:06 AM
The best 3-point shooting team is the Magic by far...

The old ass sperms are not!

dude you sure think of dicks alot