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djohn14
01-13-2009, 04:19 PM
The Braves had to pay high to get Lowe, but finally got an ace for their rebuilt rotation.

Free agent Derek Lowe agreed to terms on a four-year, $60 million contract with the Braves, a person familiar with negotiations said. The deal will be finalized after he takes a physical this week.


In terms of dollars and magnitude, it’s the biggest free-agent pitching acquisition for the Braves since Greg Maddux signed a five-year, $28 million contract with Atlanta after the 1992 season.

There is always risk in signing a 35-year-old pitcher to a four-year contract, but Lowe has been one of baseball’s most durable starters since moving from Boston’s bullpen to its rotation in 2002.

The sinkerballer averaged 15 wins, 208 innings and nearly 34 starts over the past seven seasons, and with the Los Angeles Dodgers last season he was 14-11 with a 3.24 ERA in 211 innings.

In his final 10 starts, he was 6-1 with a 1.27 ERA. Since 2002, Lowe’s 106 wins tie him with Johan Santana for third-most in the majors behind Roy Oswalt (115) and Roy Halladay (113).

The agreement with Lowe came six days after iconic Braves pitcher John Smoltz’s stunning decision to sign with the Boston Red Sox.

It won’t fill the gaping hole that left in the heart of Braves Nation, but Lowe’s arrival will fill a void atop a rotation that will be without Tim Hudson (elbow surgery) until at least August.

Lowe joins a potentially strong, revamped rotation that includes Jair Jurrjens, coming off a 13-win rookie season, and offseason additions Javier Vazquez and Kenshin Kawakami.

“You put him on this staff, he’s a definite No. 1,” third baseman Chipper Jones said. “I think with his age and his experience, that’s the spot you want him. You want him leading your staff because he’s been around the longest and he’s probably been the most proven.”

Jones publicly criticized Braves officials last week for not doing enough to keep Smoltz.

“I still think that can be a really good rotation with John Smoltz in it, but no sense crying over spilled milk,” Jones said Tuesday. “What we got is what we got. We’ve just got to go out there and play better…

“But I do like — if this is true — I do like having two guys that you can pretty much count on are going to go out there and throw 200 innings, because that was a big part of our problem last year. We had too many instances where a starter went three or four innings and the bullpen got overtaxed … and ultimately overexposed.”

Vazquez, 32, worked at least 200 innings in eight of the past nine seasons, and each of the last three with the Chicago White Sox. He slipped to 12-16 with a 4.67 ERA in 2008, after 15-8 with a 3.74 ERA in 2007.

The Braves got Vazquez in a trade for prospects, and he’s under contract for $11.5 million in 2009 and $11.5 million in 2010.

Kawakami, 33, is a Japanese star who agreed to a three-year, $25 million free-agent contract with the Braves on Saturday.

“Big week huh?” second baseman Kelly Johnson said. “I think a lot of Lowe. He’s a tough pitcher to face because of that sinkerball. I thought we should go after him from the beginning. He’s a good fit.

“And Kawakami, from the video I’ve seen of him, is one of those guys who keeps you off-balance. I like the look when you’ve got those four guys in the first four spots, and we’ve got a lot of quality guys who can compete for the fifth spot.”

The Braves came up short in pursuit of high-profile aces Jake Peavy and A.J. Burnett this winter, along with pitcher Mike Hampton and shortstop Rafael Furcal. Then there was the Smoltz decision.

Braves officials seemed determined not to miss again on the last legitimate top-of-the-rotation starter on the market. They were aggressive in their recent recruitment of Lowe, bringing him and Boras to Turner Field for a five-hour visit Thursday with team officials, manager Bobby Cox, and pitching coach Roger McDowell, another former major league sinkerballer.

In addition to discussions about the organization’s philosophy and personnel, including the expected impact of its stockpile of pitching prospects, there were video messages for Lowe recorded by Alan Jackson and other Georgia country-music stars (Lowe is a fan of the genre, and knows Jackson and other country artists).

Did the Braves overpay? That argument could certainly be made, and it wouldn’t be the first time a team paid more than expected for a Boras client.

The only other reported offer for Lowe was a three-year, $36 million proposal by the New York Mets, although Boras said that was never formally made and was well below market for the pitcher.

Boras wouldn’t say if other offers were made, only that there was interest from several teams including the Philadephia Phillies.

Because the Braves don’t give no-trade clauses in contracts and have missed the postseason for three years, it was believed they might have to pay more than contending teams that give no-trade clauses.

If the Braves achieve their goal of returning to the postseason, they can lean on Lowe, who’s 5-5 with a save and a 3.33 ERA in 21 postseason games (10 starts), including 4-1 in his past eight.

For Boston’s 2004 World Series champions, he was 3-0 with a 1.86 ERA in four postseason games, with decisions in three series-clinching wins.

Staff writer Carroll Rogers contributed to this report.

ClingingMars
01-13-2009, 04:24 PM
yet another punch in the gut for Mets fans like myself.

-Mars

djohn14
01-13-2009, 07:12 PM
yet another punch in the gut for Mets fans like myself.

-Mars

Sorry Mars...thats for taking Johan!

AFBlue
01-13-2009, 09:27 PM
This signing was a "must" for the Braves, which is probably the reason for the fourth year on the contract.

After the loss of Smoltz, the Braves faced the real possibility of entering the season with only Vazquez as a proven major league starter. Now they can decide on the fifth starter between any number of decent candidates to be a fifth starter.

At this point their rotation should be...

#1 Lowe
#2 Vasquez
#3 Kawakami
#4 Jurrjens
#5 JoJo/Campy/Hansen

All in all, not a bad group. Now all they need is a legitimate left fielder and for their bullpen to come back healthy and strong.

djohn14
01-13-2009, 09:29 PM
This signing was a "must" for the Braves, which is probably the reason for the fourth year on the contract.

After the loss of Smoltz, the Braves faced the real possibility of entering the season with only Vazquez as a proven major league starter. Now they can decide on the fifth starter between any number of decent candidates to be a fifth starter.

At this point their rotation should be...

#1 Lowe
#2 Vasquez
#3 Kawakami
#4 Jurrjens
#5 JoJo/Campy/Hansen

All in all, not a bad group. Now all they need is a legitimate left fielder and for their bullpen to come back healthy and strong.
True that....I like that rotation. JJ will be a great 4th starter. If Hanson makes it this year that would be great. JoJo..Idk I just dont like him. Jorge pitched pretty good last year. Also Glavine has said he would like to come back, and Hudson will be healthy towards the end of the year.

AFBlue
01-13-2009, 09:36 PM
True that....I like that rotation. JJ will be a great 4th starter. If Hanson makes it this year that would be great. JoJo..Idk I just dont like him. Jorge pitched pretty good last year. Also Glavine has said he would like to come back, and Hudson will be healthy towards the end of the year.

When is Hudson's contract up? I'd say it's probably best for him to take his time back from surgery, but if he's only got a year left on his deal the Braves should use him like the Brewers did CC Sabathia. :lol

djohn14
01-13-2009, 09:43 PM
Haha...this is his last contracted year, but there are options for next year...I think a player and a team option.

Vinnie_Johnson
01-13-2009, 11:17 PM
Lowe, but finally got an ace for their rebuilt rotation:lmao


Are you kidding 36 year old never won more then 14 games Lowe? That's thier Ace? :lmao

AFBlue
01-14-2009, 07:16 AM
Their "ace" is Tim Hudson.

sribb43
01-14-2009, 09:10 AM
Braves should have just traded for Peavy, he is 8 years younger, better and cheaper

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3831815&name=olney_buster


Curious offseason in Atlanta

You can puzzle and puzzle over the Braves' offseason for hours, but it will never make sense, from the Jake Peavy trade talks all the way to Tuesday's agreement of four years and $60 million with Derek Lowe.



When the talks between San Diego and Atlanta finally stalled in November, the two sides were down to haggling over the identity of the last players in the deal, whether the package going to Atlanta would include Blaine Boyer or Jeff Locke.

Sure, there was this hurdle to overcome: The Braves don't give out no-trade clauses, and Peavy has a no-trade clause that he wanted extended through the duration of the contract. But that could have been finessed easily. They could have gone to their most prominent player who never got a no-trade clause, Chipper Jones, and asked him how he would've felt about the Braves acquiring a player with a no-trade clause, and undoubtedly, Chipper would've screamed: What, are you kidding? No problem at all! Go finish the deal!. And then the Braves could have told the Padres, "Look, we don't negotiate no-trade clauses, but if you were to negotiate the no-trade clause in order to get him to accept the trade, well, we can still say we don't negotiate no-trade clauses."

But there was no agreement, no trade of Peavy to Atlanta, and in the end, the Braves wind up with Lowe, a fine pitcher who:

• Is much older -- eight years, almost to the day (Lowe was born on June 1, 1973, while Peavy was born May 31, 1981).

• Is not as good as Peavy. Over the past two seasons, Peavy is 29-17, with a 2.68 ERA, and 406 strikeouts and 315 hits allowed in 397 innings. Over the past two seasons, Lowe is 26-25, with 3.55 ERA, and 294 strikeouts and 388 hits allowed in 410 1/3 innings. Lowe, at his best, can be very good, but we're talking about pitchers at very different levels.

• And -- here's the capper -- Lowe will actually be a little more expensive than Peavy over the next four seasons. The average annual value of Lowe's contract is $15 million. Peavy is set to make an average of about $14 million over the next four seasons. Now, if Peavy had wanted his $22 million club option for 2013 exercised in order to approve a deal to Atlanta, he would have made $78 million over the next five seasons, for an average annual value of $15.6 million.

The Lowe signing must be viewed in context, of course. The Braves hadn't finished the Peavy trade talks, and they missed out on A.J. Burnett, and they tried to sign Rafael Furcal and whether it was the agent's fault or not, they didn't get the player. And then last week, John Smoltz decided to walk away, and the Braves took a public-relations pounding. They had to do something, and they got Lowe.

But you wonder why they didn't pick up the phone and re-engage the Padres on a Peavy deal. They could have signed Orlando Cabrera to a market-friendly contract -- and this would have cost them their second-round pick, rather than a first-round pick, because of their 2008 record of 72-90 -- to play shortstop, and then packaged Yunel Escobar and Gorkys Hernandez and Locke and finished the Peavy discussions.

But it didn't happen that way. If you were to put Locke up for sale on the open market, you'd probably get $300,000 or so in cash -- and yet, in the end, he seems to have been a major stumbling block -- a deal-breaker -- in a series of events that led to the Braves spending $60 million on a pitcher in whom they had no interest two weeks ago.

And it's unclear why the Braves went to $60 million, when the Mets appeared to be the only serious competition for Lowe, while sitting at around $40 million. Scott Boras, Lowe's agent, waited and waited, and this time, it paid off in a big way. "You've got to hand it to Boras," said an AL general manager. "This is why he has the reputation. He sat and waited and a team got desperate, and he got the money."

It's unclear why the Braves didn't stick to an offer of three years and $45 million, knowing that the fallback -- an Oliver Perez for $30 million, or a Jon Garland on a one-year deal -- might've been preferable to overpaying for a pitcher who will be 36 years old next summer.

But the decisions have been made. The Braves will go into next season needing Lowe and Javier Vazquez to lead them, and as with everything in baseball, if the team wins, the off-season moves will suddenly make sense. If they don't, well, we'll be left to wonder how differently their year might've played out, had they chosen a different path.

The Braves also outbid other teams for Kenshin Kawakami, as David O'Brien writes.

The failure to sign Smoltz has a prominent comedian angry at the Braves.

turiaf for president
01-21-2009, 09:52 PM
lowes a lock for 200+ innings but his sinker ball didnt sink in the playoffs. all in all he should be a good guy for the braves just keep female reporters away or hes going to try to boink them