View Full Version : Who's the best AVAILABLE 7-footer....
200 miles
01-14-2009, 12:31 AM
to get before the trade deadline who is at least equally good if not better than KT and Fab?
Do we have the proper trade bait to get him?
I have given up on Ian.... for this season.
Yorae
01-14-2009, 12:41 AM
Haddady (meh)
Biggems
01-14-2009, 12:48 AM
He is only 6'11, but the guy I want is Channing Frye. I wish there was some way we could pry him from Portland. Too bad they wont take Ime and a future 2nd for him.
In the draft, I would like to get Vyacheslav Kravtsov....7'0 240...
tonylongoriafan
01-14-2009, 12:48 AM
robert horry
Yorae
01-14-2009, 12:54 AM
Fesenko......Koufus.......Halitosis.....
Biggems
01-14-2009, 12:56 AM
Fesenko......Koufus.......Halitosis.....
Halitosis? :lmao
200 miles
01-14-2009, 12:57 AM
He is only 6'11, but the guy I want is Channing Frye. I wish there was some way we could pry him from Portland. Too bad they wont take Ime and a future 2nd for him.
In the draft, I would like to get Vyacheslav Kravtsov....7'0 240...
what does Kravtsov bring to the table?
Biggems
01-14-2009, 12:57 AM
Fesenko......Koufus.......Halitosis.....
no way we can get Koufos. If Pritchard wasn't such a prick, maybe we could get Frye from them. I think he would be a very nice fit next to Duncan. He is young, athletic, and can run the floor with Mason, Hill, and Manu.
Biggems
01-14-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/vyacheslav-kravtsov
Allanon
01-14-2009, 01:09 AM
Channing Frye is a little more athletic Matt Bonner...that's about it.
Koufos would be a nice pick up.
ChumpDumper
01-14-2009, 01:09 AM
Apparently Portland will just renounce Frye this summer, so he could be free to reject the Spurs' MLE offer.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
01-14-2009, 01:46 AM
Channing Frye is a little more athletic Matt Bonner...that's about it.
Koufos would be a nice pick up.
Yeah, he would, because he'll be a stud in 3 years. No way the Jazz give up on him.
What about one of Presti's bigs? Joe Smith has an expiring 4.75mil contract which would fit nicely with Fab+Vaughn (and a second rounder)... and don't laugh, but when they move Watson they might actually WANT Vaughn as a backup for Westbrook and general good locker room guy. Smith can still rebound and block shots, as well as hitting the 18fter, but he is old. Unlikely.
Wilcox is also coming off the books for 6.75mil, but we've got nothing to match that and despite the fact that he can rebound, he's no shot-blocker and a total space cadet.
We could take a plunge on Robert Swift or Saer Sene! :lmao
PS I've just gone through all the possible teams and salaries and this is what we're left with:
Donyell Marshall 1.26mil
Franny Elson 1.7mil
JaVale McGee 1.39mil
Calvin Booth 1.14mil Mark Madsen 2.63mil
Channing Frye 3.16mil Ike Diogu 2.91mil
Brian Skinner 1.26mil
Ugh.
Of that list, it'd be a wild punt, but McGee can run and block shots (although I doubt his Bball IQ is up to learning our system in 2 months), and Skinner actually looks okay - good weakside helper, can rebound, may be available when Zach or Chris come back for the Clips... and they could do with a backup PG! ;)
It's very sad when your best hope is Brain Skinner though... :depressed
Austin_Toros
01-14-2009, 02:18 AM
looks like a load of junk is available apart from Koufous who looks fully sick.
hopefully we can get courtney sims seeing as though everybody spurs fan seems to want him
angelbelow
01-14-2009, 02:23 AM
dwight howard
thOOdee
01-14-2009, 02:45 AM
javale!!!!!!!!!!.....i don't give a fuck what his basketball iq is. a young athletic 7 footer like him would thrive with timmy.
Obstructed_View
01-14-2009, 04:19 AM
The best guy that's available is sitting behind the Spurs bench in a suit.
angelbelow
01-14-2009, 04:32 AM
robert parish
EricB
01-14-2009, 06:39 AM
Joe Smith is an absolute dung heap. No. Way.
m33p0
01-14-2009, 06:50 AM
tiago splitter.
it had to be said.
:depressed
good news is the center the spurs need doesn't have to do a lot. just grab 8-10 rebounds, block a shot or two, and be able to stay between his man and the ring. if he can match kt's effectivity, i'll be happy.
Brazil
01-14-2009, 07:46 AM
Robinson !!!
endrity
01-14-2009, 08:12 AM
Dirk might be availabe for the right circumstances. Him and Duncan would be one of the greates frontcourts to ever be created.
urunobili
01-14-2009, 08:35 AM
Watkins in China?
m33p0
01-14-2009, 08:38 AM
Dirk might be availabe for the right circumstances. Him and Duncan would be one of the greates frontcourts to ever be created.
i don't see cuban lending the spurs a hand.
Brazil
01-14-2009, 08:45 AM
Dirk might be availabe for the right circumstances. Him and Duncan would be one of the greates frontcourts to ever be created.
Where do I sign ?
Biggems
01-14-2009, 09:53 AM
Dirk might be availabe for the right circumstances. Him and Duncan would be one of the greates frontcourts to ever be created.
Amare and Duncan or Dwight and Duncan would be better than Dirk and Duncan.
I Love Me Some Me
01-14-2009, 09:58 AM
Tiago Splitter
urunobili
01-14-2009, 09:59 AM
Amare and Duncan or Dwight and Duncan would be better than Dirk and Duncan.
are you Crazy? Dirk's outside shooting playing the 4 would make the Spurs destroy ANY daring opponent...
Rogue
01-14-2009, 10:06 AM
Dampire is the best available 7-footer for the spurs, spurs can easily get him together with Stackhouse after they send TD to Dallas.
Spurs are too old to wait one more season to rebuild, but TD is still able to do something and get another ring to exceed Shaq in number. TD knows he can't win one more championship with his spurs so it's a better choice for him to join us, and he's likely to request his current team to trade him to dallas.
Bruno
01-14-2009, 10:16 AM
Spurs have currently 4 bigmen (Duncan, Bonner, Thomas and Oberto) and there is no way they enter in the playoffs with that few bigmen.
It seems to me a given that Spurs need to have and will have a 5th PF/C for the playoffs.
This 5th bigman could be Mahinmi if he is healthy again, plays some NBA minutes and doesn't badly suck. If it isn't the case, I fully expect Spurs to get an additional frontcourt player around the trade deadline via FA or via a little trade.
I Love Me Some Me
01-14-2009, 10:27 AM
I'd send Ime, Jacque, and Fab to Memphis for Darko Milicic.
m33p0
01-14-2009, 10:29 AM
Dampire is the best available 7-footer for the spurs, spurs can easily get him together with Stackhouse after they send TD to Dallas.
Spurs are too old to wait one more season to rebuild, but TD is still able to do something and get another ring to exceed Shaq in number. TD knows he can't win one more championship with his spurs so it's a better choice for him to join us, and he's likely to request his current team to trade him to dallas.
damp? dirk is being offered. why settle for damp? and spurs bring talent in not out. :lol
DANILO DRASKOVIC
01-14-2009, 10:30 AM
i believe David Harrison is in china
I hear he and bonner are pals
HarlemHeat37
01-14-2009, 10:38 AM
it's starting to look like we'll just be waiting for Ian, and I don't know what to think about that..it's a big risk to take, and we have no idea if it'll be worth it until he actually plays..
some of the bigs that have been mentioned in this thread are unrealistic..the Wizards aren't going to trade us Javale McGeee for anything we'd actually offer..Channing Frye? he doesn't help us at all..he's soft as hell, which is the complaint I've been seeing about Bonner..also, Bonner is just a better player in general..
there really isn't somebody of that size that we can get for anything we'd realistically offer..Ian is the best option, like OV said..
some options..
Theo Ratliff is an option..he's bigger than Kurt, and he's still a very good shot blocker, which is what we lack up front..the positive about Ratliff is that he's big and physical, which would help us against the Lakers and Hornets..those are the only 2 teams that I'm concernd about when it comes to our interior D, since they have Bynum and Chandler for lobs and rebounding..Kurt is a better player than Ratliff, so this acquisition would be strictly for bigger size, better athletic ability/shot blocking..he would only be needed for 10-15 minutes a game..I'm not really asking for this though, just throwing out names..
Sean Williams is an option..more of a long-term option though..he's a great athlete, but he can't handle stronger players at all..while he's a good shot blocker, he isn't a good defensive player inside..he finishes strong at the rim though, which would obviously help us..I wouldn't mind acquiring him without giving up too much..
Stromile Swift is another guy..he's the same as Williams, except stronger and has more experience in the NBA..
Dan Gadzuric from the Bucks would be a good option..he's a good shot blocker and rebounded, good length, 6-11, finishes at the rim..
there are a few options from the D-league of course..
if Ian can play soon, I'd rather stick with him..he knows the system, he's a draft pick/project, the players are familar with him..
pad300
01-14-2009, 10:43 AM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3011676&postcount=71
Was my suggestion... He's probably the best big that we could get, and even that, as discussed would have us jumping through a LOT of hoops. Still, if we offered a 2 year contract at the LLE, and played games with the salary payments (ie. set it up as a lump sum payment at the end of each season), He'd get paid roughly 3.8 $Million for 1 and a bit seasons, which ought to be enough to interest him (and would only have to invest 1 Euro season in trying the NBA; he'd complete this Euro season, and miss the next one, after which he could make a decision between the NBA and the Euro leagues). He'd have to put off his summer vacation this year a bit, but that's the NBA. That would not put us over cap this year (according to Bruno, we have roughly 2.5 Million in room left, http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3011581&postcount=109 ). It would give us Javtokas for the remainder of this season, and for the next. Javtokas would be an FA in summer of 2010, in line with the Spurs apparent rebuilding plan at that point, and the Spurs would have his early bird rights (having had him on the books at the end of 2 consecutive seasons)...
HarlemHeat37
01-14-2009, 10:44 AM
I'm not familar with him, but I don't think we would ever sign somebody in April so they can play in the playoffs..
xtremesteven33
01-14-2009, 11:16 AM
Joe Smith
Theo Ratliff
seem to be the most likely right now. Unless the Spurs find a team that wants Vaughn and Udoka in exchange for a big quality 7 footer.....:lmao
wildbill2u
01-14-2009, 11:29 AM
to get before the trade deadline who is at least equally good if not better than KT and Fab?
Do we have the proper trade bait to get him?
I have given up on Ian.... for this season.
Sean Marks. Trade Ginobili for him straight up.
Indazone
01-14-2009, 11:42 AM
Best 7 footer? A rare commodity these days. Most are already in the NBA and playing. Loren Woods? lol
pad300
01-14-2009, 11:48 AM
I'm not familar with him, but I don't think we would ever sign somebody in April so they can play in the playoffs..
1) He's one of our draft picks whom we stashed in Europe, there have been threads about him before... ( http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1130377 will get you started )
2) We certainly have signed players at the last minute, for example, Glenn Robinson. It would be my preference to bring him over earlier - but we would have to reach some sort of buyout with Dynamo Moscow, as he is under contract with them to the end of this ( Russian league) season. The spurs could contribute up to $500K to the buyout without it counting against salary cap... but we would have to negotiate with Dynamo, and there are no guarantees that they would be willing to let him go early.
PDXSpursFan
01-14-2009, 11:48 AM
Rasho Nesterovic
timvp
01-14-2009, 11:53 AM
Spurs have currently 4 bigmen (Duncan, Bonner, Thomas and Oberto) and there is no way they enter in the playoffs with that few bigmen.
It seems to me a given that Spurs need to have and will have a 5th PF/C for the playoffs.
This 5th bigman could be Mahinmi if he is healthy again, plays some NBA minutes and doesn't badly suck. If it isn't the case, I fully expect Spurs to get an additional frontcourt player around the trade deadline via FA or via a little trade.
I still think Tolliver is in the mix as some sort of backup plan. If Mahinmi fails and the Spurs don't land someone like Joe Smith, I could see the Spurs going with Tolliver since he knows the system.
Hopefully Pop isn't just going to ride out with the thought that Udoka is the fifth big.
TwelveGs210
01-14-2009, 11:55 AM
we need to bring the legendary Dwayne Schintzius out of retirement!! He is the true spurs savior..
senorglory
01-14-2009, 12:13 PM
Jerome James, who's currently just hanging out and sitting on the bench for the Knicks.
senorglory
01-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Not that we need anyone. Kurt Thomas and Oberto will be in shape and ready to go by the playoffs.
mountainballer
01-14-2009, 12:50 PM
as always Spurs will play a 3 men front court rotation in the PO, with a 4th big getting occasional minutes. it won't be a matter of depth, it will be a matter of quality at the #2 and #3 spot in the rotation.
getting another of those 10 MPG guys, like many of the mentioned are, doesn't help us at all.
Ratliff, Gadzuric, Swift etc. forget it. all this guys would take the #4 spot in the rotation at best. we need a big man, who is good enough for 25-30 PO minutes, which means he has to play mostly alongside Tim and who brings at least one ability that is significantly better than what our guys can offer. no matter if this is on offense or defense.
the bar are IMO typical role players like Haslem, Foster, maybe also Collison. (can't tell if they are available, some were mentioned in some trade rumors).
Joe Smith is a bit borderline. I don't think that at this point he is that much better than Matt, but he might be a nice fit alongside Tim, so I think he could help a bit.
I can't tell what will go on in Portland, but maybe Przybilla is available for the right price. if the Blazers try to get back in position for the 2009 free agency, they might be willing to sacrifice him for expiring contracts and a teaser (Splitter rights?). yes, he's limited, but he does some things far above average (rebound and block) and there was a reason why the Spurs wanted him in 2006. he also does set many and quite good screens, that's something that shouldn't be undervalued in an offense with Tony and Manu, who know how to capitalize on this. he might help us more than some of the better known names out there. (this doesn't mean that I would take him over Camby, if there was a realistic chance to get him)
ploto
01-14-2009, 01:07 PM
Rasho Nesterovic
Thanks for saying it first. If you really are talking about dealing with the teams in the West right now- Rasho actually would be a good choice, and he has an expiring contract. He has played well against the Lakers, especially Bynum, and did a really nice job on Amare last game against the Suns when Shaq was out. He can guard Yao and Shaq, and he already knows the system.
mexicanjunior
01-14-2009, 01:23 PM
Joe Smith
Theo Ratliff
Miki Moore
Josh Boone
Hakeem Warrick
Etan Thomas (before he was injured)
I know they aren't all 7 footers but I think they would all help improve the rotation and give quality minutes...
PDXSpursFan
01-14-2009, 01:35 PM
The best 7-footer that could be available is Camby. He'll fit perfect on the Spurs system. However, his salary (8 mil.) makes it impossible.
mountainballer
01-14-2009, 01:49 PM
The best 7-footer that could be available is Camby. He'll fit perfect on the Spurs system. However, his salary (8 mil.) makes it impossible.
Camby makes 10 millions, plus a 1.25 millions performance bonus (I don't know how this counts against the cap). the only way to get him would be to package Fab, KT and JV, which isn't very attractive for the Clippers, neither capwise nor regarding talent. a small chance would be a van Horn scenario with Horry and cash to cover some of this salary. but would I do it if I was the Clippers GM? no, because I will have 5 better offers on the table, if I put Camby on the market.
Yogurt210
01-14-2009, 03:18 PM
anyone that can dunk
Hemotivo
01-14-2009, 03:35 PM
jackie butler
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/016Vaw0g8JacF/340x.jpg
Indazone
01-14-2009, 03:47 PM
Isn't Brad Miller up for sale? Even if he was, he'd probably cost too much.
FromWayDowntown
01-14-2009, 05:10 PM
Rasho is a reasonable choice, but I'm not sure he's a particularly realistic choice.
I wondered, too, about Adonal Foyle who's wasting away on Orlando's bench. I'm not sure he can really play any more, but he's got size and he's certainly got a Spurs-like personality and an easy-to-acquire contract, IIRC.
m33p0
01-14-2009, 08:53 PM
In an interview between Bill Schoening and marc Gasol Bill asked Gasol about Tiago and he said that if the Spurs had splitter it would be game over.
:smchode:
Yorae
01-14-2009, 09:00 PM
vitali klitschco........lenox lewis.....
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