View Full Version : Kobe Bryant's Thoughts on Tim Duncan
timvp
01-15-2009, 06:26 AM
Prior to Mason hitting the game winner, Kobe said:
"Don't worry about doubling Tim. He made that bullsh!t shot. Fvck him."
Interesting :reading
Slydragon
01-15-2009, 06:46 AM
How do you know?
Anyways don't worry about Kobe, He did that bullsh!t nut dance. Fvck him
romain.star
01-15-2009, 07:05 AM
Same question: how do you know that?
ESPN muted it on the 2am replay but didn't mosaic his mouth.
Danny.Zhu
01-15-2009, 07:19 AM
Really? Any links?
Yogurt210
01-15-2009, 07:39 AM
I also heard Kobe say that during the game in a timeout after Duncan made that crazy shot. he was stadning up at the bench yelling at his team lol.
HDTV ftw
m33p0
01-15-2009, 08:32 AM
we shouldn't wonder any longer why his fans are fucktards themselves.
MaNu4Tres
01-15-2009, 08:39 AM
Like Kobe hasn't hit any bullshit shots in his career.
Keepin' it real
01-15-2009, 08:40 AM
I actually noticed that during the live broadcast. It was not 100 percent clear, but that's what I thought I heard. Maybe not verbatim, but that was the general message Kobe sent the Lakers during that huddle. I thought he mentioned Parker too.
EricB
01-15-2009, 08:59 AM
Kobe's half ass attempt at being a "team" guy.
DarrinS
01-15-2009, 09:01 AM
What "bullshit" shot was he referring to?
Yorae
01-15-2009, 09:03 AM
Maybe the circus shot off gasol. I myself wonder how he made that shot.
EricB
01-15-2009, 09:04 AM
What "bullshit" shot was he referring to?
The quarter fling, quarter finger roll, quarter hook, that he threw up to cut the Laker lead to 1.
urunobili
01-15-2009, 09:07 AM
link?
TDMVPDPOY
01-15-2009, 09:14 AM
doesnt make a difference if duncan is playin 1 on 5 he still nail that shot
ElNono
01-15-2009, 09:17 AM
TD is nails... FK
DannyT
01-15-2009, 09:28 AM
I did see that as well...he was huddled around the team(cause his ego is so b.i.g.) and told them not to worry about double teaming them with that weak ass shit....I did hear that but didnt know he was talking about timmy good pick up LJ
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4902/ftlfq9.jpg
Rummpd
01-15-2009, 09:30 AM
Most satisfying regular season ever as we did not have to watch the Kobe's bad imitation of Cassell (even Kobe cannot be that ugly) over and over.
mystargtr34
01-15-2009, 09:54 AM
It was pretty clear. I thought he said when Tim gets the ball swat that shit away, fuck him.
There was definately a 'Fuck him' at the end there.
SenorSpur
01-15-2009, 10:07 AM
Prior to Mason hitting the game winner, Kobe said:
"Don't worry about doubling Tim. He made that bullsh!t shot. Fvck him."
Interesting :reading
Big props Timvp, for pointing this out. I saw and heard it too.
After Kobe hits that three, Spurs call timeout. The camera was locked onto the Fakers bench and, even though the announcers were talking, you can disintictly hear Kobe shout those words.
F Kobe
F Phil
F Fisher
F the Fakers
ploto
01-15-2009, 10:07 AM
I just do not get the obsession with acting as if many NBA players don't do or say these same types of things.
mrspurs
01-15-2009, 10:23 AM
Well he was telling the truth. Why worry about Timmy, when Roger is the one killing ya?
Spurminator
01-15-2009, 10:25 AM
Let's be honest... It WAS kind of a lucky shot. :lol
SenorSpur
01-15-2009, 10:26 AM
Of course it was.
Shastafarian
01-15-2009, 10:28 AM
I just do not get the obsession with acting as if many NBA players don't do or say these same types of things.
I dunno. Do that many of the great ones really say THESE types of things?
EricB
01-15-2009, 10:28 AM
I just do not get the obsession with acting as if many NBA players don't do or say these same types of things.
Eh? He says it and u can clearly hear it on the telecast...
EricB
01-15-2009, 10:30 AM
Let's be honest... It WAS kind of a lucky shot. :lol
Just as lucky as josh powell chanelling his inner Horace grant.
hater
01-15-2009, 10:32 AM
I wonder if Kobe went to his "4th gear" last night :lol
it looked like he went to 6th gear and tried to put it in reverse and maybe even broke his clutch
SpursFanFirst
01-15-2009, 10:37 AM
What is this "dance" people keep referring to?
There was a thread on this, but no video.
Avitus1
01-15-2009, 10:38 AM
Ever so classy. Fuck Kobe.
50 cent
01-15-2009, 11:26 AM
Kobe just wants to win badly. He is awesome. Everybody says shit like that in the heat of the moment.
Kobe just wants to win badly. He is awesome. Everybody says shit like that in the heat of the moment.
Can we get more spurs fans like this one ?
TheMACHINE
01-15-2009, 11:32 AM
haha you guys act like he said the wrong things. He was right, it was a lucky shot and it was Mason that we needed to look out for. You guys are a bunch of over-reacting drama queens. oh noes! Kobe said something bad during a team huddle.
polandprzem
01-15-2009, 11:32 AM
What is this "dance" people keep referring to?
There was a thread on this, but no video.
2:34
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JamStone
01-15-2009, 11:33 AM
Kobe is an ass. But a competitive ass.
Tim's shot was a bullshit shot. It still counts.
Don't really see anything wrong with Kobe's statement.
You kind of expect him to be a competitive jackass like that in a game.
I think the comment was more about the "bullshit" shot, not his "thoughts on Duncan."
The "fuck you" was about competition. That's how I see it.
We already know Kobe isn't a classy player. Is this news?
arodz
01-15-2009, 11:35 AM
Prior to Mason hitting the game winner, Kobe said:
"Don't worry about doubling Tim. He made that bullsh!t shot. Fvck him."
Yeah I caught that too. They didn't mute it, but you could barely hear what he said. It was during the timeout after Kobe hit the three. Further proof that he's a classless loser. Yeah ESPN, that's your league MVP and so-called team leader. :lmao
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 11:35 AM
Mason did the same dance after he hit his game winner. You can see it in EricB's sig.
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 11:37 AM
Also, I read an interesting quote that Kobe said after the game, almost saying the Spurs are just lucky. He said something along the lines of " I hope they run out of bullets early, they do not have game winners in them all the time. "
Brazil
01-15-2009, 11:41 AM
Kobe just wants to win badly. He is awesome. Everybody says shit like that in the heat of the moment.
+1
PDXSpursFan
01-15-2009, 11:46 AM
Kobe is an ass. But a competitive ass.
Tim's shot was a bullshit shot. It still counts.
Don't really see anything wrong with Kobe's statement.
You kind of expect him to be a competitive jackass like that in a game.
I think the comment was more about the "bullshit" shot, not his "thoughts on Duncan."
The "fuck you" was about competition. That's how I see it.
We already know Kobe isn't a classy player. Is this news?
+1
Best post on this thread by far.
Also, I read an interesting quote that Kobe said after the game, almost saying the Spurs are just lucky. He said something along the lines of " I hope they run out of bullets early, they do not have game winners in them all the time. "
Link ?
timaios
01-15-2009, 11:48 AM
haha you guys act like he said the wrong things. He was right, it was a lucky shot and it was Mason that we needed to look out for. You guys are a bunch of over-reacting drama queens. oh noes! Kobe said something bad during a team huddle.
Go there http://forums.lakersground.net/ ...the kingdom of over-reacting drama queens.
:lmao:lmao:lmao
mrspurs
01-15-2009, 11:50 AM
haha you guys act like he said the wrong things. He was right, it was a lucky shot and it was Mason that we needed to look out for. You guys are a bunch of over-reacting drama queens. oh noes! Kobe said something bad during a team huddle.
:lol
MeIII
01-15-2009, 11:51 AM
He's an adulterer.
It's not like the dude has class in the first place.
Kobe just wants to win badly. He is awesome. Everybody says shit like that in the heat of the moment.
I agree.
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 11:52 AM
Link ?
SAN ANTONIO -- He makes the big shots and gets the crunch-time call when he collides in midair with Derek Fisher.
Looks like Roger Mason is a bigger free-agent steal than the San Antonio Spurs had ever allowed themselves to believe.
So we have to talk about that first.
Remember that Mason dagger from the corner that beat Phoenix at the buzzer on Christmas Day? That was a yawn compared to the wild scenes of Wednesday night, when Mason was not only asked to replace Bruce Bowen as the Spurs' primary Kobe Bryant defender but also intersected in the final seconds with the most notorious Spurs Killer not named Kobe Bryant ... and out-Fishered him.
"Typical Spurs-Lakers stuff," Bryant said with a smile, trying to shrug off the crazy back-and-forth of a final 28.9 seconds that somehow left San Antonio clinging to a 112-111 victory.
"That's how it is," Kobe continued. "I hope they get it out of their system and there are no bullets left."
It was the first encounter for these teams since last spring's Western Conference Finals ... and it was honestly more than anyone could have hoped for. Except that the amazing ending to this game of ridiculously good execution and shot-making really wasn't so typical.
Not in this building. Not when Fisher's involved. Surely you're aware, if you've followed this Spurs-Lakers stuff with any regularity, that it's rare when the final play doesn't go Fisher's way at the AT&T Center.
Exhibit A for the forgetful: Fisher's crushing shot to beat the Spurs in Game 5 of a second-round series in 2004 after catching, spinning and shooting with four-tenths of a second on the clock. Exhibit B: Fisher landing on Brent Barry -- but avoiding a whistle -- on the last shot in Game 4 of the 2008 conference finals.
Asked to do a little reflecting after the crowd around his locker dispersed late Wednesday, Fisher conceded: "I guess I've been involved in some interesting moments here."
This, however, is January.
So ...
Sweet as it was for the Spurs to see Mason (18 points) shake free from Fisher near the baseline, gather Matt Bonner's hurried fastball pass and do what Barry couldn't -- initiate contact but also draw the foul as he banged home a long jumper that put him on the line for the decisive point -- there is only so much vengeance San Antonio can claim from a regular-season game. Even an extraordinary regular-season game during which Bryant, before Mason's magic, responded to Tim Duncan's go-ahead heave in the lane by splashing in his own 3-pointer from the left wing with 12.9 seconds remaining.
Which brings us to Part 2 of this tale.
That would be the part about the Lakers looking so good with three regulars out and dressing only eight guys Phil Jackson trusted to play on the second night of a back-to-back. (Fine: It's nine if you count Sun Yue's 82-second stint.)
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said something afterward about how "what goes around comes around," in an apparent reference to San Antonio's luck with Fisher, but Pop's words were a lot louder last week when he said of the purple and gold: "We're just not in the same league with the Lakers right now."
You have to wonder how he sees it after this.
Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic and Luke Walton are sidelined by injury. Odom isn't all the way back after rushing back this week from a bruised knee after sitting out just three games. Fisher managed to suffer a groin injury during Wednesday's busy proceedings but was cleared to return for the finish after some quickie treatment from Lakers flexibility specialist Alex McKechnie.
Yet none of that stopped the Lakers, after winning the previous night in Houston, from finding the gas to erase San Antonio's 11-point lead with 6:55 to play.
"That was a big game for us," Jackson said. "This was a game that I was proud of the guys for coming back and playing like that. [San Antonio has] been here for three days waiting for us."
So Jackson could live with the Lakers' final possession, when San Antonio forced the ball out of Bryant's hands, only for Trevor Ariza to be hit with a traveling call as he drove to the bucket. He saw no need to chastise Bryant for what turned out to be a premature rendition of Sam Cassell's infamous celebration dance, after Kobe's 3 put L.A. up 111-109. Like Popovich with Mason, Jackson clearly enjoyed having options -- such as using the long-limbed Ariza to guard Parker or putting Andrew Bynum (18 points) on Duncan -- that he didn't have in May.
The comeback, even in defeat, might have made a louder statement about L.A.'s well-chronicled depth than anything we've seen all season. The rally actually gathered steam when Kobe found himself running side pick-and-rolls in crunch time with the little-used Josh Powell on back-to-back possessions ... both of them ending with Powell leaving his hand in the air to punctuate a drained mid-range jumper after rolling into daylight and getting the ball from the blitzed Bryant.
Let's be clear here: San Antonio should get a tangible boost from pulling this one out. Manu Ginobili scored a season-high 27 points -- which included a buzzer-beating 3 to cap an equally chaotic final minute of the third quarter -- with the sort of power in his legs that we never saw when the teams met in the playoffs. Duncan had two big buckets in the final 1:15 and quietly flirted with a triple-double (20 points, 10 rebounds and eight assists). The Spurs also indoctrinated rookie George Hill to the rivalry with 14 quality minutes and wound up enhancing Mason's growing reputation to the point that no one even remembered to ask Popovich why Bowen received only six minutes off the bench.
Yet it's no secret in NBA front-office circles that the Spurs, in spite of their limited trade assets, hope to acquire at least one more quality player before the Feb. 19 trade deadline. It would be tough, on this evidence, to dispute the theory that they'll need another big man or another scoring threat to move into what Pop is now referring to as the Lakers' league.
That's especially true if the Lakers -- given all of their health issues -- can bank on the following claim from Bryant as L.A. prepares for two more immediate challenges: Orlando visits Staples Center on Friday, followed by Cleveland on Monday.
Before racking up 29 points, 10 assists and seven boards in defeat, when asked in a pregame chat if he can withstand L.A.'s wave of injuries, Kobe said: "I feel as good as I've felt in a long time."
Spurminator
01-15-2009, 11:53 AM
I would say you greatly misrepresented that quote in your earlier post.
Also, I read an interesting quote that Kobe said after the game, almost saying the Spurs are just lucky. He said something along the lines of " I hope they run out of bullets early, they do not have game winners in them all the time. "
Here's the quote in full context.
"That's the least we can do to return the favor after Fish '0.4'ed them," Kobe Bryant said. "Hopefully [the Spurs] got it out of their system so when the playoffs come around, they don't have any more bullets left."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-spurs15-2009jan15,0,3243518.story
Kobe was hoping the Spurs would get that revenge feeling out of their system.
But thanks for trying to make Kobe look like a bigger dick than he really is.
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 12:00 PM
I would say you greatly misrepresented that quote in your earlier post.
Ya going back and looking at it, I did.
Ya going back and looking at it, I did.
It's all good. No biggie.
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Here's the quote in full context.
"That's the least we can do to return the favor after Fish '0.4'ed them," Kobe Bryant said. "Hopefully [the Spurs] got it out of their system so when the playoffs come around, they don't have any more bullets left."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-spurs15-2009jan15,0,3243518.story
Kobe was hoping the Spurs would get that revenge feeling out of their system.
But thanks for trying to make Kobe look like a bigger dick than he really is.
One second late, quit crying and sticking up for your boy friend, I said I misinterpreted it.
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Once again, one second late. LOL
polandprzem
01-15-2009, 12:02 PM
Jax excuses:
FT and b2b while spurs were fresh
DPG21920
01-15-2009, 12:04 PM
I hate Phil more than any Laker ever. He is everything that is wrong with the Lakers attitude. He is an elitist and cry baby. Kobe I respect, Phil I do not.
TwelveGs210
01-15-2009, 12:06 PM
Most satisfying regular season ever as we did not have to watch the Kobe's bad imitation of Cassell (even Kobe cannot be that ugly) over and over.
can we get some pics of cassell's parents?? Just out of curiosity..was it drugs and drinking during the pregnancy or what??
Killakobe81
01-15-2009, 01:33 PM
Why do you guys care you won many of you are obssessed with Kobe your players are very classy for the most part but Mason did the big balls dance as well who cares ? it doesnt bother me he hit a great shot mad props to Mason foul was BS but he hit the shot
Killakobe81
01-15-2009, 01:34 PM
I hate Phil more than any Laker ever. He is everything that is wrong with the Lakers attitude. He is an elitist and cry baby. Kobe I respect, Phil I do not.
I agree my perfect Laker team would swap Phil/Gasol for Duncan/Pop ...my team would dominate the world including LEbron ...
You all need to quit acting like this is a big fucking deal though. If any of you have ever played a sport, you know that there is trash talking all over the field during a game by both teams... it's just part of sports. I remember one game in high school football the coach subbed me in as a fullback to block on offense (I played defensive line) and the guys on the other team defense were saying shit like "You gona let the quota-back fuck you in the shower like he does to the rest of the offense?". I talked my fair share of shit on the field too but if you think Kobe saying "fuck him" is a bad thing, then I wish the NFL would start wiring players so you could hear what they say during games.
Yall act like you expect Kobe to pat Tim Duncan on the back and give Roger Mason a golf clap for hitting those two clutch shots. :lmao
scanry
01-15-2009, 01:55 PM
Go there http://forums.lakersground.net/ ...the kingdom of over-reacting drama queens.
:lmao:lmao:lmao
That's not all that bad compared to Clublakers.com.
http://www.clublakers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=105927
The Fakers fans actually think that Kobe would end up being a better player than Jordan. Now that is one disillusion fan base. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
BTW they are whinging about MJ not having competition. Well duh, he destroyed them you silly Fakers.
News flash Fakers fans: Kobe isn't even the best player post the Jordan era. Want a hint as to who that title belongs to? Duncan & that big fellow who Kobe chased out of LA.
de Soto
01-15-2009, 01:59 PM
Prior to Mason hitting the game winner, Kobe said:
"Don't worry about doubling Tim. He made that bullsh!t shot. Fvck him."
Interesting :reading
I see where Kobe was coming from. It was like trying to stop the Earth's rotation. :lol :flag::flag::flag:
tmtcsc
01-15-2009, 02:01 PM
I have no problem with Kobe's comments or his dance. He played the perfect villain last night, complete with outward displays of rage after Manu's 3 pointer to end the 3rd and Mason's +1 at the end of the game.
It was awesome. HOWEVER...The Spurs MUST concentrate on rebounding and playing better defense in order to beat the Lakers in a series.
And what was up with Bruce riding the bench for so long last night ? I was getting queasy watching Mason (or anyone for that matter) trying to guard Kobe in the 4th qtr. There is no way Bruce's game has fallen back that much.
I have a feeling Pop is trying to see how far he can push Mason defensively or trying to have the Spurs stop relying Bruce's D to bail them out. I'm really not sure.
EricB
01-15-2009, 02:04 PM
I have no problem with Kobe's comments or his dance. He played the perfect villain last night, complete with outward displays of rage after Manu's 3 pointer to end the 3rd and Mason's +1 at the end of the game.
It was awesome. HOWEVER...The Spurs MUST concentrate on rebounding and playing better defense in order to beat the Lakers in a series.
And what was up with Bruce riding the bench for so long last night ? I was getting queasy watching Mason (or anyone for that matter) trying to guard Kobe in the 4th qtr. There is no way Bruce's game has fallen back that much.
I have a feeling Pop is trying to see how far he can push Mason defensively or trying to have the Spurs stop relying Bruce's D to bail them out. I'm really not sure.
After rewatching the game, Mason's defense was not as bad as I first thought. Kobe hit alot of tough shots.
I didn't see anything Mason didn't do that Bowen would've.
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 02:09 PM
The Spurs aren't on LAL's level yet. This game actually showed me that more than anything.
Any team can win a regular season game with hot shooting. The Spurs still gave up 111 pts to a team playing a b2b without 3 rotation players and with one of them coming back from a bone bruise. They had to shoot 57% to win by 1 pt and needed an idiotic Fisher foul to do so.
A win is a win, but this loss showed me how good the Lakers are. You need to play perfect just to have a chance to beat them most nights.
xtremesteven33
01-15-2009, 02:12 PM
That's not all that bad compared to Clublakers.com.
http://www.clublakers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=105927
The Fakers fans actually think that Kobe would end up being a better player than Jordan. Now that is one disillusion fan base. :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
BTW they are whinging about MJ not having competition. Well duh, he destroyed them you silly Fakers.
News flash Fakers fans: Kobe isn't even the best player post the Jordan era. Want a hint as to who that title belongs to? Duncan & that big fellow who Kobe chased out of LA.
I do think that Kobe is just as good as Jordan in terms of talent and "intangibles"
easjer
01-15-2009, 02:12 PM
And what was up with Bruce riding the bench for so long last night ? I was getting queasy watching Mason (or anyone for that matter) trying to guard Kobe in the 4th qtr. There is no way Bruce's game has fallen back that much.
I have a feeling Pop is trying to see how far he can push Mason defensively or trying to have the Spurs stop relying Bruce's D to bail them out. I'm really not sure.
I think it is necessary to try out Mason on Kobe. Bruce may be in fine form for the playoffs, but they really shouldn't let their gameplan be 'Bruce'll shut down Kobe and they rest of y'all just rotate and try to grab the boards' - that would be a terrible idea.
A game in January is an excellent time to see what Mason is capable of and see what the team can do without Bruce. If Bruce can come in and disrupt Kobe and shut him down some - terrific. I expect that if these were the playoffs, we'd have seen more of Bruce. But Mason held up ok. We needed to know that and see that. Because there are likely to be more situations like last night where Bruce is an offensive liability and if Mason can hold up decently on defense, it's much better option at the end of the game.
Jayem
01-15-2009, 02:48 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeNlQOl36n0#t=5m15s
Creation88
01-15-2009, 02:54 PM
douchebags cheer for douchebags.
ClingingMars
01-15-2009, 03:03 PM
I see where Kobe was coming from. It was like trying to stop the Earth's rotation. :lol :flag::flag::flag:
:lmao
-Mars
ClingingMars
01-15-2009, 03:04 PM
Why do you guys care you won many of you are obssessed with Kobe your players are very classy for the most part but Mason did the big balls dance as well who cares ? it doesnt bother me he hit a great shot mad props to Mason foul was BS but he hit the shot
:lmao what a fucking idiot. he got FOULED.
-Mars
ManuTP9
01-15-2009, 03:51 PM
LMAo kobe is pathetic
angelbelow
01-15-2009, 03:57 PM
thats actually fine with me, in the heat of battle and when emotions run wide you say things to motivate your team. thats just a way to get fired up imo.
besides, do you guys honestly believe that kobe has no respect for duncan?
de Soto
01-15-2009, 03:58 PM
Even as a Spurs fan, I find it hard to hate the Lakers or Kobe because they can back up their swagger most of the time when it counts. mavs, Suns and Hornets, OTOH,...FUCK THOSE BITCHES!!!:ihit
:flag::flag::flag:
hater
01-15-2009, 04:08 PM
I don't hate Kobe, he is actually a really nice guy. Yeah he is full of himself, but so was MJ. Yeah he is a cheater and adulterer but so is Bill Clinton.
Duncan2177
01-15-2009, 04:33 PM
Kobe is a idiot.
MarHill
01-15-2009, 04:48 PM
The Spurs aren't on LAL's level yet. This game actually showed me that more than anything.
Any team can win a regular season game with hot shooting. The Spurs still gave up 111 pts to a team playing a b2b without 3 rotation players and with one of them coming back from a bone bruise. They had to shoot 57% to win by 1 pt and needed an idiotic Fisher foul to do so.
A win is a win, but this loss showed me how good the Lakers are. You need to play perfect just to have a chance to beat them most nights.
DrHouse,
Obviously...I will disagree. One regular season game isn't going to dictate how things are going to play out in the playoffs.
I could have said the same thing about the Spurs-Magic game last Sunday. The Magic shot 63% from 3 pt range. It probably won't happen in the playoffs...but it doesn't change the fact they are a legit contender.
Most Spurs fans know the Lakers are good, very good offensively. But, there is a lack of defensive intensity from this Lakers squad. They were several layups giving up and missed defensive assignments the Lakers had throughout the game. And they still give up too many 100 point games(18 out of their 38 games)...to win a title.
This was an offensive game from the beginning and the pace of the game was for the Lakers. The Spurs matched their pace and scored with them shot for shot.
I will give the Lakers credit for coming back in the fourth quarter. They're a good team and basketball is a rhythm game. That happens all the time!!
But the Lakers know the Spurs are a legit threat and if Manu's fully healthy...the Spurs can and will beat them in a seven game series.
:flag:
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 05:00 PM
DrHouse,
Obviously...I will disagree. One regular season game isn't going to dictate how things are going to play out in the playoffs.
I could have said the same thing about the Spurs-Magic game last Sunday. The Magic shot 63% from 3 pt range. It probably won't happen in the playoffs...but it doesn't change the fact they are a legit contender.
Most Spurs fans know the Lakers are good, very good offensively. But, there is a lack of defensive intensity from this Lakers squad. They were several layups giving up and missed defensive assignments the Lakers had throughout the game. And they still give up too many 100 point games(18 out of their 38 games)...to win a title.
This was an offensive game from the beginning and the pace of the game was for the Lakers. The Spurs matched their pace and scored with them shot for shot.
I will give the Lakers credit for coming back in the fourth quarter. They're a good team and basketball is a rhythm game. That happens all the time!!
But the Lakers know the Spurs are a legit threat and if Manu's fully healthy...the Spurs can and will beat them in a seven game series.
:flag:
The Lakers scored 56/111 pts in the paint. These are high percentage looks. The Spurs cannot stop the Lakers front court attack. That's the series right there. Mason, Hill....these guys don't solve that problem.
If you can't outrebound the Lakers, keep them out of the paint, or stop their #1 player you will not beat them in a 7 game series.
MarHill
01-15-2009, 05:03 PM
The Lakers scored 56/111 pts in the paint. These are high percentage looks. The Spurs cannot stop the Lakers front court attack. That's the series right there. Mason, Hill....these guys don't solve that problem.
If you can't outrebound the Lakers, keep them out of the paint, or stop their #1 player you will not beat them in a 7 game series.
Again one game in the regular season will not dictate how a playoff series will go....
It's a little premature!!
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 05:04 PM
Again one game in the regular season will not dictate how a playoff series will go....
It's a little premature!!
Wisest words spoken in this thread.
ChumpDumper
01-15-2009, 05:06 PM
Wisest words spoken in this thread.You should heed them then.
SA210
01-15-2009, 05:14 PM
I don't like Kobe but that doesn't bother me what he said. Duncan half-asses some plays and that was a lucky shot, and i do believe the f-him was out of competition. May not be the right words to say, but may not have been the kind of f-him some may think it means. I wasn't confident with Duncan with the ball in his hands last night. I wanted Manu with the ball at that time.
Anyway, the thing that bothered me about Kobe was when he hit that towel out of the towel boys hands. Now that was very stupid in my opinion. What the hell? That dude was just there to assist him and he hits the towel from his hand like a big spoiled baby? Funny how the commentators didn't talk about that. That bothered me.
Behrooz24
01-15-2009, 05:17 PM
:lol It's funny how everyone is so sensitive.
Shaolin-Style
01-15-2009, 05:20 PM
Yeah, Kobe is a douche. That towel boy didn't deserve that. Here he was trying to keep him dry.
I hope that kid goes Adam Sandler on his ass one day.
LakerHater
01-15-2009, 06:05 PM
Kobe's half ass attempt at being a "team" guy.
I just love that SIG., do you have in a gif!??
ClingingMars
01-15-2009, 06:06 PM
Yeah, Kobe is a douche. That towel boy didn't deserve that. Here he was trying to keep him dry.
I hope that kid goes Adam Sandler on his ass one day.
you need to fix your sig. for the sake of AD.
-Mars
HarlemHeat37
01-15-2009, 08:37 PM
I don't really care what he said..
I respect his game, he's arguably the best in the NBA..it doesn't change the fact that he's a rapist, he's thrown teammates under the bus, he ratted Shaq out to the police for absolutely no reason, he arguably cost the Lakers a title in 2004..
any knowledgeable basketball fan can tell you he isn't even close to Shaq or Duncan for the title of "best post-MJ"..talent-wise? yes, of course..he's better than both..but when it comes to impacting the game, Duncan and Shaq have both been better..
Duncan has him beat in individual accolades, playoff performances(especially the finals, where Kobe has played below his season standards in every year), and the fact that he has 4 titles as a #1 option..
Shaq is one of the most dominant players of all-time, and has 3 titles as a #1 option, and another 1 as a #2..
Kobe fans will point to the same old shit..Kobe's a great scorer, and it's impressive that he led an average supporting cast to the playoffs..but the fact that he's choked in EVERY finals, and has even cost his team a title in 2004 hurts his legacy..it'll continue to be the same until he can lead a team to a title, which he hasn't been able to do..
Josepatches_
01-15-2009, 08:37 PM
But who is Kobe?
SpursFanFirst
01-15-2009, 08:59 PM
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Thanks for posting this, polandprzem.
Add this to the list of reasons I can't stand Kobe.
His arrogance is just too much.
SpursFanFirst
01-15-2009, 09:05 PM
The Spurs aren't on LAL's level yet. This game actually showed me that more than anything.
Any team can win a regular season game with hot shooting. The Spurs still gave up 111 pts to a team playing a b2b without 3 rotation players and with one of them coming back from a bone bruise. They had to shoot 57% to win by 1 pt and needed an idiotic Fisher foul to do so.
A win is a win, but this loss showed me how good the Lakers are. You need to play perfect just to have a chance to beat them most nights.
Were you saying this same thing when the Pacers beat the Lakers? what about when they almost beat them a 2nd time...if not for a crap call against Granger.
Are the Pacers on the Lakers level?
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 09:13 PM
Were you saying this same thing when the Pacers beat the Lakers? what about when they almost beat them a 2nd time...if not for a crap call against Granger.
Are the Pacers on the Lakers level?
If the Lakers and Pacers played each other in the playoffs it would be a competitive series.
Matchups matter more than W/L ratios. Why do you think GSW was able to knockout DAL?
HarlemHeat37
01-15-2009, 09:19 PM
Dr.House is an idiot..
his reason that we can't beat LA is because we're a "jump shooting team", we have no interior D, and we can't stop Kobe..
Indiana is 28th in interior D, they have absolutely nobody that can guard Kobe(they lost a game because they stuck Jack on him LOL), and they're 6th in the NBA in 3-point attempts..
his stupidity amazes me every time he posts..he's just an insecure Laker fan..
ElNono
01-15-2009, 09:34 PM
If the Lakers and Pacers played each other in the playoffs it would be a competitive series.
Matchups matter more than W/L ratios. Why do you think GSW was able to knockout DAL?
The problem with beating the Lakers is having to deal with bitter sonofabitches like you the day after...
We beat your sorry ass team. The only team in the West that has a winning record against your team is the better team: The San Antonio Spurs.
Drill it in your head...
Matchups matter more than W/L ratios. Why do you think GSW was able to knockout DAL?
OMG ... coming from you this is incredibly funny. You said the exact opposite when we brought up our back court against yours. Then, you cried and said matchups don't matter.
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 10:46 PM
Dr.House is an idiot..
his reason that we can't beat LA is because we're a "jump shooting team", we have no interior D, and we can't stop Kobe..
Indiana is 28th in interior D, they have absolutely nobody that can guard Kobe(they lost a game because they stuck Jack on him LOL), and they're 6th in the NBA in 3-point attempts..
his stupidity amazes me every time he posts..he's just an insecure Laker fan..
Are you stupid? Seriously did the doctors play handball with your head at birth?
Indiana doesn't compete with LAL because they are defensive juggernaut. Their defense is horrible. They compete with LAL because their offense is really fucking good. They can score 100+ ppg just as easily as the Lakers can. It's always a shootout when we play them and that's the way they like to play.
It's no wonder they banned you at RealGM.
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 10:48 PM
The problem with beating the Lakers is having to deal with bitter sonofabitches like you the day after...
We beat your sorry ass team. The only team in the West that has a winning record against your team is the better team: The San Antonio Spurs.
Drill it in your head...
The Spurs need to prove they can beat LAL when it matters, in the playoffs. Regular season don't mean shit as you aren't getting HCA anyways. 4-1.
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 10:51 PM
OMG ... coming from you this is incredibly funny. You said the exact opposite when we brought up our back court against yours. Then, you cried and said matchups don't matter.
Reading comprehension. You lack it.
I said you cannot take a team's players and then break down the individual 1-1 matchups and predict the winner that way. That's not how basketball works.
And that has nothing to do with what I said about team's matching up with one another and W/L ratios.
ElNono
01-15-2009, 10:52 PM
The Spurs need to prove they can beat LAL when it matters, in the playoffs. Regular season don't mean shit as you aren't getting HCA anyways. 4-1.
We beat you in '03, with Shaq and got the ring. We won two more since then. If there's a team that need to prove they can win without Shaq is the Lakers.
Last 3 NBA champions coming from the Western Conference: Spurs/Spurs/Spurs.
Now take the loss like an adult, and STFU.
DrHouse
01-15-2009, 10:57 PM
We beat you in '03, with Shaq and got the ring. We won two more since then. If there's a team that need to prove they can win without Shaq is the Lakers.
Last 3 NBA champions coming from the Western Conference: Spurs/Spurs/Spurs.
Now take the loss like an adult, and STFU.
That has nothing to do with the Spurs beating the Lakers. The Lakers were rebuilding in those years anyways, which is what your team will be doing for a long time when Duncan and Pop retire.
Phil Jackson has the edge over Pop. in the playoffs. Always has, always will.
ElNono
01-15-2009, 11:00 PM
That has nothing to do with the Spurs beating the Lakers. The Lakers were rebuilding in those years anyways, which is what your team will be doing for a long time when Duncan and Pop retire.
Phil Jackson has the edge over Pop. in the playoffs. Always has, always will.
Bullshit. The Lakers were rebuilding starting in '05, when Shaq was traded. And Pop already beat Phil in the playoffs. And FWIW, we already went through a rebuilding process with Pop and Tim at the helm. It happened between '99 and '03.
You need to get better informed before come around trolling here, especially about your own team. Happens all the time with bandwagon fans...
Taking it to the Hole
01-15-2009, 11:14 PM
What does it matter if the shot was a BS shot Kobe? All that matters is that the ball goes in the basket.:flag:
daslicer
01-15-2009, 11:30 PM
Lakers and their fans remind me a lot of the '07 mavs which is a soft ass team that acts like they are already champs when they haven't won shit yet. The spurs don't have to prove shit to the lakers they have already won 3 titles with their big 3 whereas Kobe hasn't still won shit without Shaq. This year is make or break for Kobe's legacy if he doesn't get it this year I don't ever see him winning a title without Shaq. It reminds me of the crossroad Duncan face in '04-'05 where he had to answer his critics about being able to win without David Robinson.
Yorae
01-15-2009, 11:35 PM
That mav's team has the best record back then, right? Uhm what round in POs did they make their exit?
mrpach
01-16-2009, 12:13 AM
Dr.House is an idiot..
Now, lets dont go overboard...
SequSpur
01-16-2009, 01:06 AM
Fuk Kobe.
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