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Findog
01-16-2009, 05:20 PM
per Mark Stein

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:21 PM
meh...at least we got rid of Diop's contract

BlackSwordsMan
01-16-2009, 05:24 PM
there goes dallas' interior defense and rebounds

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:24 PM
there goes dallas' interior defense and rebounds

:lmao

dirk4mvp
01-16-2009, 05:25 PM
there goes dallas' interior defense and rebounds


I don't know if you're serious or not.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:25 PM
Now, some sort of Stack/Bass/Howard package for Felton and Wallace.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:26 PM
I don't know if you're serious or not.

Hard to hit the boards and play D when you're getting DNP'd night after night...he's Charlotte's problem now.

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:28 PM
Ryan Hollins is 10x the player Diop is

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:29 PM
I have no idea why Charlotte did this.

turiaf for president
01-16-2009, 05:30 PM
^^ lol yea keep telling yourself that. teams are going to score at will in the paint now

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:31 PM
^^ lol yea keep telling yourself that. teams are going to score at will in the paint now

your a fuckin' moron if you think that

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:32 PM
^^ lol yea keep telling yourself that. teams are going to score at will in the paint now

Nothing changes...Diop never plays, and this doesn't get Dallas out of the ninth seed.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:34 PM
Wow, Carroll sucks. For a "shooter," he's hitting 40% from the field this year.

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:34 PM
Nothing changes...Diop never plays, and this doesn't get Dallas out of the ninth seed.

yep...it just gets rid of his dead corpse off this team. I think i actually prefer Hollins over Diop anyways. Carroll is just another spare at the SG position

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:35 PM
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.........well, they made a trade. yay.

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:35 PM
if this is all that they do, i'll be fucking pissed.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:36 PM
.........well, they made a trade. yay.

Watch Diop blossom into a 20/10 guy in Carolina. :p:

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:36 PM
if this is all that they do, i'll be fucking pissed.

They REALLY love their team now.

BUMP
01-16-2009, 05:37 PM
if Diop doesnt play, how does this exactly take away any interior defense? im not saying this is really a good trade or anything, in fact this trade seems to make sense to fill our average white jump shooting spare on the team, so welcome home Matt Carroll. i dont really know anything about Hollins except that he was pretty good at UCLA

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:37 PM
It's not a bad trade...not a good one either, but not a bad trade. They gave up nothing but a bad contract.

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:38 PM
"hey, we'll trade our useless bullshit for your useless bullshit. brilliant!"

:lobt2:

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:39 PM
Watch out Cavs, Lakers, Magic, Celtics. The Mavs have a message for you.

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:41 PM
if Matt Carroll regains his 2007 magic, this would be a pretty good trade. But then again, if the Mavs in general regained their 2007 magic, we wouldn't have needed to make a trade.

Shank
01-16-2009, 05:43 PM
Champion-fucking-ship, bitches.

Another trade on the way.

stretch
01-16-2009, 05:44 PM
Another trade on the way.

Involving whom?

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:45 PM
Involving whom?

its coming....hold tight

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:46 PM
Involving whom?

probably stackhouse for ryan bowen. in order to get that much needed post scoring. just like this trade got us a slasher :shootme

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:46 PM
Another move is happening...not today but before the deadline.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:47 PM
Champion-fucking-ship, bitches.

Another trade on the way.

Hold off on the parade route, Bron Bron. Matt Carroll has something to say about that, beeyotch!

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:49 PM
So how soon can I get my Matt Carroll jersey? Or have they already sold out from preorders?

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:49 PM
at least Carroll's salary decreases over the life of the contract

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:49 PM
Hey Shank, any details on what the second move entails? PM me if you don't want to post it out in the open.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:50 PM
Please Carroll, don't hurt 'em

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:51 PM
So in order to improve scoring at the starting 2-guard, we get a guy who averages less PPG than Wright, Green, Stack, and is tied with Dick Breath.

:lobt2:

dirk4mvp
01-16-2009, 05:51 PM
lol every post in this thread besides one are mavfans. Optimism is in the air! Smell that shit, non Mavericks faggots!

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:52 PM
Too bad the mavs dont run the Princeton offense anymore, I bet he could play it well

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:52 PM
lol every post in this thread besides one are mavfans. Optimism is in the air! Smell that shit, non Mavericks faggots!

It's 2006 all over again!

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:53 PM
One day people will refer to this trade as the downfall of the Charlotte Bobcats, and the resurrection of the Mavericks!

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:53 PM
The elite of the NBA are shakining in their shoes....NBA front offices are now working the phone lines to make a deal

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:54 PM
One day people will refer to this trade as the downfall of the Charlotte Bobcats, and the resurrection of the Mavericks!

It will make the Kidd-Harris trade look equitable and fair.

BobcatsDynasty
01-16-2009, 05:54 PM
We just got another dominant center and got rid of dead weight. All Matt Carroll did was make his shots, and anybody can do that, except he didn't even do that anymore. Realistically we should be the 2nd best team in the East, but this trade pushes us past Cleveland.

Diop > Ben Wallace

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:54 PM
The elite of the NBA are shakining in their shoes....NBA front offices are now working the phone lines to make a deal

Expect several contenders in the West to make panic trades as a result.

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:54 PM
I feel sorry for all those poor bastards who went and re-bought those Diop t-shirts bc he was coming back

sribb43
01-16-2009, 05:55 PM
Anyone want to bet that the Mavs will try to re-acquire Diop this summer for a 3rd time?

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:56 PM
Anyone want to bet that the Mavs will try to re-acquire Diop this summer for a 3rd time?

I just can't quit you DeSagana

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:56 PM
Expect several contenders in the West to make panic trades as a result.


"We'll give you Chris Paul for DeShawn Stevenson! We must have unathletic 2-guards with questionable shooting ability! Dallas has found the key!"

Allanon
01-16-2009, 05:58 PM
I can honestly say I have never watched either of these guys play. I've heard of Matt Carroll but WTF is a ryan hollins?

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 05:59 PM
I can honestly say I have never watched either of these guys play.

Carroll was the token white guy on the team, he was only there to appease the affirmative action laws.

Findog
01-16-2009, 05:59 PM
I can honestly say I have never watched either of these guys play.

Oh, you'll get acquainted in late May, my friend, when the Mavs curbstomp your asses in the conference finals.

Allanon
01-16-2009, 06:01 PM
Oh, you'll get acquainted in late May, my friend, when the Mavs curbstomp your asses in the conference finals.

I'd actually welcome it....in all seriousness. I hate thinking the Lakers are just gonna win they play Dallas. There used to be some great games.

The West just ain't the same with the Mavs sucking.

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 06:02 PM
So will Matt Carroll continue the proud legacy of white guys wearing #13 for the Mavs?

spurs_fan_in_exile
01-16-2009, 06:03 PM
Fuck. If by some miracle the Spurs get past Dallas we've got the fucking Bobcats waiting in the finals armed with a fucking Duncan stopper.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

dirk4mvp
01-16-2009, 06:03 PM
The Spurs feel like shit now giving Croshere a 10 day contract. Carroll is the next Peja, he just needed this trade to blossom.

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 06:04 PM
Carroll is the next Peja, he just needed this trade to blossom.

Fuck Peja, Carroll is Chris Mullin 2.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sribb43
01-16-2009, 06:04 PM
Carroll was the token white guy on the team, he was only there to appease the affirmative action laws.

I wonder who the idiot Mavs fans will cheer for as the Rudy of the team now...JJB or Carroll?

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 06:05 PM
I wonder who the idiot Mavs fans will cheer for as the Rudy of the team now...JJB or Carroll?

Dallas is still full of Mexicans who have no idea that JJB is Puerto Rican, so lil' Barea remains the team mascot.

Kriz-Maxima
01-16-2009, 06:07 PM
Dallas is still full of Mexicans who have no idea that JJB is Puerto Rican, so lil' Barea remains the team mascot.

:lol

dirk4mvp
01-16-2009, 06:08 PM
Where the hell is Nick Fazekas?

Shank
01-16-2009, 06:09 PM
David Stern is PISSED the Mavs made a mockery of his league with this heist of the Bobcats.

monosylab1k
01-16-2009, 06:11 PM
It all makes sense now -

Mark Cuban's bitching at JR Smith and putting himself in the headlines was just a clever ruse to keep the rest of the league in the dark about the fact that Dallas was on the verge of making THE TRADE OF THE MILLENIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MWILL
01-16-2009, 06:24 PM
I actually like the Matt Carroll pick-up. :p:

sribb43
01-16-2009, 06:27 PM
Now all the Irish people will come out to the AAC and support the product of Notre Dame...Mat Carroll

timtonymanu
01-16-2009, 06:29 PM
lol the guy that was given the MLE was traded for 2 no namers.

ManuTP9
01-16-2009, 06:34 PM
nothing new here...:lol

dirk4mvp
01-16-2009, 06:36 PM
lol the guy that was given the MLE was traded for 2 no namers.


Who let this IRA motherfucker in my bar?

clambake
01-16-2009, 06:38 PM
six fresh fouls a game. use your heads.

Shank
01-16-2009, 06:54 PM
12 now! Dig that!

DPG21920
01-16-2009, 07:02 PM
Carroll is not as terrible as some make him out to be. He might do ok with Kidd. Not a game changer, but can play the JJ redick role (less good shooting, better ball handling).

Phillip
01-16-2009, 07:28 PM
Matt Carroll is a pretty good shooter. But this definitely has not been one of his better years.

clambake
01-16-2009, 07:40 PM
12 now! Dig that!

i think just 6.

someone has to fill the DNP role.

mavs>spurs2
01-16-2009, 07:42 PM
So shank whats this other trade you were referring to? Can you send it to me via pm?

endrity
01-16-2009, 07:56 PM
Well in all seriousness, I guess the Mavs learned that it was impossible to use Diop's contract in any other deals so they simply wanted to get rid of him. Now they have two player whose contracts are more friendly to use in other deals.

No one, FO included, sees this as anything more than a deal for purely financial reasons. But it might set the tables for bigger deals. Do the Felton deal, use Kidd to acquire Butler from Washington, maybe Josh for Bargnani and we have a new team, ready to fight with the elite once again.

Chieflion
01-16-2009, 08:23 PM
they traded one bad contract for an extremely bad contract and a prospect.

Mr.Bottomtooth
01-16-2009, 08:29 PM
Fucking idiot Spurs FO. They pick up bag of douche Croshere and miss out on Carroll/Hollins, expecting everything to be okay?


Fuck my life.

Spur-Addict
01-17-2009, 12:50 AM
I hope Hollins either stinks it up, or gets no playing time. I do not want to be right.

Shank
01-17-2009, 12:55 AM
they traded one bad contract for an extremely bad contract and a prospect.

Who did?

Contract-wise, Dallas got the better end of the deal.

Chieflion
01-17-2009, 04:00 AM
Who did?

Contract-wise, Dallas got the better end of the deal.

Take a look at Caroll's contract. 5 more years in a Mavs uniform.

timvp
01-17-2009, 05:08 AM
Good trade by Mavs. Dumping Diop's ugly contract in itself was a victory. Diop is only worthwhile on your team if you have a defensive coach who can live with his horrible offense. AJ could live with it. Brown might be able to live with it. Carlisle couldn't

Carroll isn't anything special but he's theoretically a good shooter. Plus, before the Bobcats got Bell, he was the designated perimeter stopper. That's not saying much considering his competition on the Bobcats but he's probably a capable 9th or 10th man on a contending team.

Hollins has always intrigued me as a prospect. As a raw athlete, you don't find his combination of quickness and jumping ability on a seven-footer too often. I think the Mavs should give him a long look because his athleticism combined with Kidd's passing could make him potentially a rotation player.

I can't really see a downside to this trade for the Mavs . . .

mavsfan1000
01-17-2009, 06:57 AM
Diop fucked up his second stay here. Too bad. I guess he got lazy again like he was in Cleveland.

monosylab1k
01-17-2009, 10:07 AM
Take a look at Caroll's contract. 5 more years in a Mavs uniform.

His salary decreases every year while Diop's increases. By the end of Carroll's contract, he'll be making only 2/3 of what Diop will be making. That's a win for the Mavs, even if it's a minor win.

Plus, I doubt they keep Carroll, I'm betting he goes in another deal.

Brickhouse
01-17-2009, 04:52 PM
So Donnie and Mark admitting their fuckup of signing Diop last offseason.

At the very least Hollins can catch the ball and finish around the rim, which is more than Diop's 37% FG from the field.

ElNono
01-17-2009, 05:01 PM
Where's the Donnie troll to tell us this trade takes them over the top, and that they love their team?

Donnie Nelson
01-17-2009, 05:04 PM
Where's the Donnie troll to tell us this trade takes them over the top, and that they love their team?

Stay Tuned! ;)

:lobt:

de Soto
01-17-2009, 05:05 PM
mavs death rattle is fun to watch. :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Holmes_Fans
01-17-2009, 05:18 PM
Watching these videos of Hollins finishing with Bass like power around the rim makes me like this trade. He is basically just a non lazy ass athletic version of Diop. Really Diop's defense is just him being tall. Now we have a tall guy who can stand there playing defense and finish around the rim.

timvp
04-26-2009, 04:59 AM
Hollins has always intrigued me as a prospect. As a raw athlete, you don't find his combination of quickness and jumping ability on a seven-footer too often. I think the Mavs should give him a long look because his athleticism combined with Kidd's passing could make him potentially a rotation player.

fml :depressed

endrity
04-26-2009, 08:51 AM
ouch.. you called it timvp!