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spurtime
01-18-2009, 10:25 AM
LMAO

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/opinion/18pubed-web.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

The Wild Party

On Dec. 26, Thayer Evans, a Houston-based freelancer who writes frequently for The Times, reported that one of the nation’s most intense college football recruiting battles had ended: Jamarkus McFarland of Lufkin, Tex., was going to Oklahoma, not Texas.

Evans had stayed close to McFarland and his mother, Kashemeyia Adams, for months, and he recounted an intense courtship of them by coaches and boosters. He quoted from a paper that McFarland had written for his high school English class that described the recruiting process, including comparisons of the football programs. McFarland’s paper described a party at an upscale Dallas hotel, hosted by Texas fans after the Texas-Oklahoma game, where he said drugs and alcohol were plentiful and young women took off their clothes and were “romancing each other.”

But McFarland later told rivals.com, a football fan Web site, that he had “spiced up” the description of the party and intimated that, if he had known Evans was going to quote from his paper, he could have told the reporter what was accurate and what was not. Evans told me he went over the paper in detail with McFarland, and Adams told me that she knew the reporter reviewed what he was writing with her son, although she didn’t know the details of their conversation.

The Times asked McFarland to clarify his conflicting remarks, and after two days, he sent a text message that cleared up nothing. It said he had respect for Evans, that his school paper was written “to capture and inform my audiences,” and “I stand by this story and I have moved on.”

Adams said that since The Times article was published, her son has been the target of racial slurs from angry Texas supporters, and she said she would not let him talk to reporters in the future. But she defended Evans’s story. “An article was written, and I was very well pleased with it, and that’s that,” she said.

What really happened? I asked Evans how much he pressed for independent verification of the party. He said he asked for the name of the hotel, and McFarland could not remember it. The reporter did not ask who invited the young man to the party, who accompanied him or who else might have witnessed the lurid events.

Evans said that in retrospect, he could have done more to get independent corroboration of the party. But he said that McFarland and his mother had never misled him during their long association.

Tom Jolly, the sports editor, and Mike Abrams, who was editing the 2,800-word article on deadline on Christmas Day, said they did not press Evans about the party. Abrams said the allegations were in a school paper, and “there’s a trust between this kid and a teacher.” McFarland is a good student, and “submitting this document for a grade added credibility,” Abrams said — “maybe too much credibility.”

The article also contained allegations by Adams that she had received various offers to induce her son to go to Texas, although it made clear that she did not believe that anyone associated with the university was responsible for any misconduct. Nick Voinis, a spokesman for the University of Texas athletics department, complained to me that Evans did not call the university for comment before the article was published.

Evans did alert the university just before his article was published on the newspaper’s Web site. Why didn’t he seek reaction beforehand? He said that if anyone at Texas had spoken to him, it would have violated N.C.A.A. recruiting rules. And, he said, he did not want to give either Texas or Oklahoma information they could use to try to influence McFarland’s decision.

“I felt like we made the best efforts we could under the circumstances,” Evans said.

Regardless of whether Texas officials would have commented, Evans should have given them the chance. As in each of the other cases, a phone call could have headed off much embarrassment.

Ronald Reagan may not have loved the press, but he had good advice for every reporter: Trust but verify.

pkbpkb81
01-18-2009, 10:39 AM
[QUOTE=spurtime;3037333]LMAO

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/opinion/18pubed-web.html?_r=1&ref=opinion


Adams said that since The Times article was published, her son has been the target of racial slurs from angry Texas supporters,


STAY CLASSY TEXAS FAN

spurtime
01-18-2009, 11:36 AM
[QUOTE=spurtime;3037333]LMAO

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/18/opinion/18pubed-web.html?_r=1&ref=opinion


Adams said that since The Times article was published, her son has been the target of racial slurs from angry Texas supporters,


STAY CLASSY TEXAS FAN

You too, "Guy who makes fun of Vince Young threatening suicide."

pkbpkb81
01-18-2009, 01:22 PM
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You too, "Guy who makes fun of Vince Young threatening suicide."

ture probly shouldent have said that.

but my comments were directed at a grown man not a high school kid, also race should never be brought into it

spurtime
01-18-2009, 02:10 PM
ture probly shouldent have said that.

Good job acknowledging that.


but my comments were directed at a grown man not a high school kid, also race should never be brought into it

#1 The age difference is a non-issue since the comments are completely different...Alleged racial epithets vs. documented ridiculing of mental illness.

#2 I agree...the mother should keep her lying mouth shut. She's been caught with her hands out and lying from the beginning in this sordid saga.

CubanSucks
01-18-2009, 03:35 PM
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ture probly shouldent have said that.

but my comments were directed at a grown man not a high school kid, also race should never be brought into it

Since the issue of race exceeds all others in importance. :rolleyes

pkbpkb81
01-18-2009, 06:15 PM
Good job acknowledging that.

#2 I agree...the mother should keep her lying mouth shut. She's been caught with her hands out and lying from the beginning in this sordid saga.

so cause she is saying it about texas she lying right. if this thing was turned around and it was ou fans calling this kid racal names and also trying to give the family a hand out to get the kid to norman every texas fan on here would be talking shit but when its your school being throw under the bus it cant be true

pkbpkb81
01-18-2009, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=pkbpkb81;3037421]

Since the issue of race exceeds all others in importance. :rolleyes

just a line i wont cross

spurtime
01-18-2009, 07:58 PM
so cause she is saying it about texas she lying right. if this thing was turned around and it was ou fans calling this kid racal names and also trying to give the family a hand out to get the kid to norman every texas fan on here would be talking shit but when its your school being throw under the bus it cant be true

You don't get it...She injected race into this thing from the beginning when she talked about Jackie Shipp, the black adult role model, juxtaposing him against the white UT assistant coach (MacWhorter) who was recruiting her son.

mookie2001
01-18-2009, 08:14 PM
texas fans are racialist

pkbpkb81
01-18-2009, 08:35 PM
You don't get it...She injected race into this thing from the beginning when she talked about Jackie Shipp, the black adult role model, juxtaposing him against the white UT assistant coach (MacWhorter) who was recruiting her son.


she wanted her son to have a black male role modle thats diffrent that call someone a racal slur

spurtime
01-18-2009, 08:58 PM
she wanted her son to have a black male role modle thats diffrent that call someone a racal slur

Of course it is, but it shows that she's hung up on race. She kept bringing it up.

pkbpkb81
01-18-2009, 09:22 PM
Of course it is, but it shows that she's hung up on race. She kept bringing it up.

I thank it's more that were ever he went he had a father figuer and there's nothing wrong with her feeling better about her son haveing a black man he can go to.

CubanSucks
01-19-2009, 12:48 AM
I thank it's more that were ever he went he had a father figuer and there's nothing wrong with her feeling better about her son haveing a black man he can go to.

First of all you really should consider checking your spelling before you click the submit button. So if there is a white recruit who chose let's say...TCU instead of Buffalo, and the mother mentioned how he needed a good white role model and since Gil Turner is black she prefered the white Gary Patterson instead, these situations would both be justified? I sure hope this isn't a double standard

pkbpkb81
01-19-2009, 03:20 PM
First of all you really should consider checking your spelling before you click the submit button. So if there is a white recruit who chose let's say...TCU instead of Buffalo, and the mother mentioned how he needed a good white role model and since Gil Turner is black she prefered the white Gary Patterson instead, these situations would both be justified? I sure hope this isn't a double standard

yes it's the same thing there would be nothing wrong with that at all. People feel better around what they know. look you cant tell me that texas dosent have a black coach on the staff when the first guy they sent was getting beat why dident they try sending the black guy. Or just maybe try talking to the mom. The fact that Shipp and Stoops went throw the mom to get to the kid is why he is going to ou and not texas.


and lastly even if it was racist (which it wasent) them likeing ou becuse a black coach was doing the recruting thats no reason for texas fans to be walking aroung calling him racal slurs

CubanSucks
01-19-2009, 04:11 PM
yes it's the same thing there would be nothing wrong with that at all. People feel better around what they know. look you cant tell me that texas dosent have a black coach on the staff when the first guy they sent was getting beat why dident they try sending the black guy. Or just maybe try talking to the mom. The fact that Shipp and Stoops went throw the mom to get to the kid is why he is going to ou and not texas.


and lastly even if it was racist (which it wasent) them likeing ou becuse a black coach was doing the recruting thats no reason for texas fans to be walking aroung calling him racal slurs

SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN HIM PLAY!!! If I was that kid the last person I'd want helping me with my decision was my mom who's yet to actually watch me. I think the Texas recruiting staff kind of saw the irony in his mom playing such a big part in his decision. Just to make you feel better, the only names that I called him was a mommas boy bitch.

pkbpkb81
01-19-2009, 04:47 PM
SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN HIM PLAY!!! If I was that kid the last person I'd want helping me with my decision was my mom who's yet to actually watch me. I think the Texas recruiting staff kind of saw the irony in his mom playing such a big part in his decision. Just to make you feel better, the only names that I called him was a mommas boy bitch.

so now its a bad thing that he is close with his family.
My main point is if it was Sooner fans acting the way some ut fans have acted towrds this kid all the ut homers on this bored would be all over me, but the shoe is on the other foot and it must be lies thats funny to me.

CubanSucks
01-19-2009, 07:33 PM
so now its a bad thing that he is close with his family.
My main point is if it was Sooner fans acting the way some ut fans have acted towrds this kid all the ut homers on this bored would be all over me, but the shoe is on the other foot and it must be lies thats funny to me.

Yeah since that is what I said asshole. Way to put words in my mouth. I'm saying that his mom should of had NOTHING to do with his recruiting since she never even made time to watch him play. Did I say anything bad about him being close to his mother? NO. Plus, quite honestly, if the situations had been reversed or if I was a Sooner fan I would be a little skeptical of someone who obviously couldn't make his own decisions without his mommy

spurtime
01-19-2009, 08:29 PM
The lady is a freak. She engineered this whole thing to suit her own agenda. The tables wouldn't be reversed because we wouldn't utilize Jackie $hipp the way the Sooners do. Remember who is the team on probation and with the lengthy history of recruiting violations. Hint: Not Texas.

dws009
01-19-2009, 11:27 PM
so now its a bad thing that he is close with his family.
My main point is if it was Sooner fans acting the way some ut fans have acted towrds this kid all the ut homers on this bored would be all over me, but the shoe is on the other foot and it must be lies thats funny to me.

Dude, I really hope you didn't go to OU. You're not making a very strong argument with the type of education you obviously received there. Must have played football there too.:nope

purist
01-20-2009, 01:33 PM
Shoddy journalism + naive high school kid = less-than-credible reporting

pkbpkb81
01-20-2009, 02:42 PM
Yeah since that is what I said asshole. Way to put words in my mouth. I'm saying that his mom should of had NOTHING to do with his recruiting since she never even made time to watch him play. Did I say anything bad about him being close to his mother? NO. Plus, quite honestly, if the situations had been reversed or if I was a Sooner fan I would be a little skeptical of someone who obviously couldn't make his own decisions without his mommy

its about more then playing football so the family should be able to help the kid

pkbpkb81
01-20-2009, 02:44 PM
The lady is a freak. She engineered this whole thing to suit her own agenda. The tables wouldn't be reversed because we wouldn't utilize Jackie $hipp the way the Sooners do. Remember who is the team on probation and with the lengthy history of recruiting violations. Hint: Not Texas.

they use coach shipp to recruit that part of texas again nothing wrong with that. and ou is not on probation for recruting violations, and the problems your talking about happened in the 80's under a diffrent staff

pkbpkb81
01-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Dude, I really hope you didn't go to OU. You're not making a very strong argument with the type of education you obviously received there. Must have played football there too.:nope

and what school did you go to.

spurtime
01-20-2009, 03:58 PM
they use coach shipp to recruit that part of texas again nothing wrong with that. and ou is not on probation for recruting violations, and the problems your talking about happened in the 80's under a diffrent staff

LOL...Have you heard of Rhett Bomar?

pkbpkb81
01-20-2009, 04:59 PM
LOL...Have you heard of Rhett Bomar?

see i know thats were you were going and there was no recruting violations with bomar the probles were after he was already there and as soon as the school found out they reported it to the ncaa and kicked his ass off the team.
after an ou applied the ncaa ruleing the probation was lifted but it was never for recruting

so try again ass clown

CubanSucks
01-20-2009, 05:23 PM
see i know thats were you were going and there was no recruting violations with bomar the probles were after he was already there and as soon as the school found out they reported it to the ncaa and kicked his ass off the team.
after an ou applied the ncaa ruleing the probation was lifted but it was never for recruting

so try again ass clown

Looks like someone slept through grade school.

spurtime
01-20-2009, 05:50 PM
see i know thats were you were going and there was no recruting violations with bomar the probles were after he was already there and as soon as the school found out they reported it to the ncaa and kicked his ass off the team.
after an ou applied the ncaa ruleing the probation was lifted but it was never for recruting

so try again ass clown

Yeah, as soon as they found out the ncaa would find out...ass clown.

That auto dealer "employed" half the team.

The $ooner program has been dirty since Bud Wilkinson and remains so today. Sorry to break the news to you.

Kermit
01-20-2009, 05:57 PM
see i know thats were you were going and there was no recruting violations with bomar the probles were after he was already there and as soon as the school found out they reported it to the ncaa and kicked his ass off the team.
after an ou applied the ncaa ruleing the probation was lifted but it was never for recruting

so try again ass clown

Oklahoma's on probation right now jackass. Try again.

pkbpkb81
01-20-2009, 06:52 PM
Yeah, as soon as they found out the ncaa would find out...ass clown.

That auto dealer "employed" half the team.

The $ooner program has been dirty since Bud Wilkinson and remains so today. Sorry to break the news to you.

wrong

pkbpkb81
01-20-2009, 06:54 PM
Oklahoma's on probation right now jackass. Try again.

i think it was lifted, were did you find your info.

Kermit
01-20-2009, 10:27 PM
i think it was lifted, were did you find your info.

Their wins were given back but they still lost scholarships and are still on probation.

spurtime
01-21-2009, 11:11 AM
http://www.gnextinc.com/ousoonersblog/2007/07/history-of-oklahoma-ncaa-major.html

History of Oklahoma NCAA Major Violations
I've been e-mailed and asked. What's the history of NCAA violations involving the University of Oklahoma football team. This includes only major violations (as listed by the NCAA) for football team. The NCAA list six major infractions by the Oklahoma football team dating back to January 1956.

January 11, 1956 - NCAA found University of Oklahoma football team violated improper transportation; extra benefits; improper recruiting inducements.

Result: 1 year Probation

January 11, 1960 - NCAA found University of Oklahoma football team violated improper financial aid; improper recruiting inducements; outside fund; lack of institutional control.

Result: 1 year Probation, 1 year post season ban, 1 year television ban

September 20, 1973 - NCAA found University of Oklahoma football team violated extra benefits; including improper recruiting inducements; lodging, publicity and transportation; tryouts; excessive number of official visits; excessive time for official visits; in addition to academic fraud; eligibility; unethical conduct.

Result: 2 year Probation, 2 year post season ban, 2 year television ban, one assistant football coach not allowed to recruit.

November 11, 1980 - NCAA found University of Oklahoma football team violated improper financial aid; improper recruiting contacts, entertainment and transportation.

Result: Publicly reprimand.

December 19, 1988 - NCAA found University of Oklahoma football team violated improper transportation; extra benefits; complimentary tickets; improper recruiting contacts, employment, entertainment, inducements and transportation; unethical conduct; outside fund; lack of institutional control; certification of compliance.

Result: 3 years probation; 1 year television ban; 3 years probation; Maximum of 18 initial grants for 1989-90 and 1990-91 football season. maximum of eight coaches may recruit off campus for 1989-90; OU limited to maximum of 50 official visits for 1988-89 and 1989-90; The University of Oklahoma files annual reports regarding compliance programs; University of Oklahoma must show cause why more penalties should not be imposed if institution does not remove two assistant coaches and recruiting coordinator from recruiting and disassociate one representative.

And then the latest July 11, 2007. The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions has penalized the University of Oklahoma for major violations in its football program.

http://www.briancombs.net/854/

With the Oklahoma Sooners’ undeserved national championship game approaching, let’s look back at the history of rules breaking at this fine institution.

1889: The Land Run
Territories in Oklahoma were opened for settlement at high noon on April 22, 1889, with an estimated 50,000 people lined up for their piece of the available two million acres. It was called a land run as land was claimed on a first come, first served basis.

Those who broke the rules by crossing the border into the territory before it was allowed were said to have been crossing the border sooner, leading to the term “sooners”, which eventually became the state’s official nickname.

Thus, the state institutionalized the approval of cheating.

1955: Recruiting Violations
Accusations were made by the NCAA of paying player’s tuition after their eligibility had expired, paying the bills of player’s families, and of the liberal spreading around of money in general. OU was put on probation for two years, with the NCAA noting how much it appreciated OU’s cooperation.

1960: The Slush Fund
A NCAA report stated that an OU athletic department official (unnamed) failed to report a slush fund operated by OU staff. The official stonewalled when its existence was revealed. OU was put on “indefinite suspension” until OU proved the slush fund was gone.

1973: Various Violations
Accusations included boosters providing transportation to recruits, and a Sooner assistant falsifying QB Kerry Jackson’s transcript so he would be eligible (the assistant was not terminated). The NCAA gave OU a TV ban and a bowl game ban. Barry Switzer was on the staff at this time, but was an assistant to head coach Chuck Fairbanks.

1980: Sweating the Small Stuff
Lots of smoke, but not much fire. Switzer mocked the NCAA for prosecuting them in his book, “Bootlegger’s Boy”, but players Charles Thompson and Brian Bosworth reported getting paid well in their respective books.

1988: Switzer’s True Colors Show
Any doubts that Switzer ran a dirty program were dispelled by the NCAA’s report covering 1985 and 1986. Assistant coaches offered envelopes with cash to recruits, cars were provided, bills were taken care of, and game tickets were sold. An internal OU investigation revealed no additional violations. Unfortunately, ex-players and recruits talked, so the NCAA reported additional violations.

OU again investigated and found nothing more. The NCAA sanctioned OU, and informed them that if they fought the sanctions, the NCAA had more they could investigate.

Oklahoma received a three year probation, a two year television ban, and a one year bowl ban. Switzer was fired.

April 2006: A Phone Addiction
The NCAA revealed an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson’s staff. Oklahoma escaped major sanctions, as the NCAA found OU guilty of a “failure to monitor,” a less severe ruling than “lack of institutional control,” which had been recommended by the NCAA’s enforcement staff.

The NCAA backed OU’s self-imposed two year probation, but also issued a public reprimand and censure.

August 2006: Big Red Imports
Right before the 2006 football season, it was revealed that Rhett Bomar and J.D. Quinn had been kicked off the team. They had been “employed” by car dealership Big Red Imports, and being paid for work they did not perform. They were let go from the team right before the NCAA came down on OU.

Additional investigations by OU concluded that no additional violations had occurred, even though Adrian Peterson had purchased a vehicle from the dealership before securing financing, driven it for several weeks, and then returned the car. Oklahoma ruled Peterson did not violate rules because the dealership said it was normal business practice.

Oklahoma was forced by the NCAA to forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and lost two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years. It’s probation from the Sampson problem was also extended.

pkbpkb81
01-21-2009, 09:11 PM
http://www.gnextinc.com/ousoonersblog/2007/07/history-of-oklahoma-ncaa-major.html

History of Oklahoma NCAA Major Violations
I've been e-mailed and asked. What's the history of NCAA violations involving the University of Oklahoma football team. This includes only major violations (as listed by the NCAA) for football team. The NCAA list six major infractions by the Oklahoma football team dating back to January 1956.


April 2006: A Phone Addiction
The NCAA revealed an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson’s staff. Oklahoma escaped major sanctions, as the NCAA found OU guilty of a “failure to monitor,” a less severe ruling than “lack of institutional control,” which had been recommended by the NCAA’s enforcement staff.

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if its only for the football team why is this on there it is for basketball. all so like i said the only one that happened under this staff they took care of. I know your going to come on here and talk shit and call me a homer but i never said the school dident have problems in the past but since stoops has taken over its been a clean run program.

on a side note my Greatgrand Mother passed to day so i will be out of town for the next few days and will have to get back to what ever crap you talk next week

have a good weekend

Kermit
01-21-2009, 11:29 PM
if its only for the football team why is this on there it is for basketball. all so like i said the only one that happened under this staff they took care of. I know your going to come on here and talk shit and call me a homer but i never said the school dident have problems in the past but since stoops has taken over its been a clean run program.

on a side note my Greatgrand Mother passed to day so i will be out of town for the next few days and will have to get back to what ever crap you talk next week

have a good weekend

It's the entire athletic program you douche. Your reading comprehension equals your spelling.

pkbpkb81
01-27-2009, 08:23 PM
It's the entire athletic program you douche. Your reading comprehension equals your spelling.

maybe you should read again motherfucker it say's football team

Kermit
01-28-2009, 07:57 AM
maybe you should read again motherfucker it say's football team

This sentence makes absolutely no sense. No suprise there. Try again with punctuation and proper grammer and I might try responding. I'm tired of translating your retarded language. It's obviously not English.

spurtime
01-28-2009, 04:11 PM
maybe you should read again motherfucker it say's football team

My statement wasn't limited to football, funboy...


The $ooner program has been dirty since Bud Wilkinson and remains so today. Sorry to break the news to you.

I mean the entire athletics program...

pkbpkb81
01-28-2009, 08:09 PM
My statement wasn't limited to football, funboy...



I mean the entire athletics program...

not that it fucking matters any more but in the post you did say football program