Likely more than $150 million for inauguration

[ducks]

(By comparison, George W. Bush's 2005 inauguration cost $42.3 million. Bill Clinton managed with $33 million in 1993.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
what a waste of money

[InRareForm]

some things you just have to pay for, like prom, unless you were ugly.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

(By comparison, George W. Bush's 2005 inauguration cost $42.3 million. Bill Clinton managed with $33 million in 1993.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
what a waste of money



(By comparison, George W. Bush was given a hard time for the $42.3 million cost of his inauguration .... but that number, as Media Matters points out, did not include security.)

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'm not going to argue the number isn't significant, because it is. I'm going to argue Ducks' cherry-picking, illiterate, whiny ass.

[Brutalis]

That's pretty ridiculous.

How much did today run us?

[timvp]

Scalpel.

[Kermit]

Who gives a shit? We're not paying for it.

[FreeMason]

It's just money.


Fuck it.

[AntiChrist]

My immaculation is going to cost YOU $170 million, but who's counting?

[angel_luv]

(By comparison, George W. Bush's 2005 inauguration cost $42.3 million. Bill Clinton managed with $33 million in 1993.)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
what a waste of money

I think it is ridiculous the amount of money spent on inauguration- all the more given the current economic climate of our country.

I feel like all effort should be made to keep cost at an absolute minimum.
Being president is about best serving the country, not personal accolades- not that all the expense is caused by that.

[Kermit]

I think it is ridiculous the amount of money spent on inauguration- all the more given the current economic climate of our country.

I feel like all effort should be made to keep cost at an absolute minimum.
Being president is about best serving the country, not personal accolades- not that all the expense is caused by that.

They should give that money to Jesus.

[angel_luv]

They should give that money to Jesus.

They should. :) It would be a much more beneficial investment.

[Bartleby]

They should give that money to Jesus.

He'd just waste it by rendering it all back to Caesar.

[tonylongoriafan]

they should just give me half of the money they were going to spend, let me kick america in its nuts, and we'll call it a day.

[balli]

I feel like all effort should be made to keep cost at an absolute minimum.
Being president is about best serving the country, not personal accolades- not that all the expense is caused by that.

First, if you'd bothered to read the article, you'd know most of this money is going to security. Not Obama's, the crowd's. But you're right, maybe they should just say fuck it. Secondly, most of this cash was raised by donations to Obama's Inauguration Committee, not from taxes. And last time I checked, people are free to spend their money however the fuck they choose. And third, if you want to talk about economics, do you have any idea how much tax revenue this is going to generate for DC? Obviously not, but more than enough to cover any expenditures on their part.

[angel_luv]

He'd just waste it by rendering it all back to Caesar.

He'd only give Caesar what was owed in taxes, just as He did in the Biblical account you are referencing.

Granted with taxes these days, it would be a hefty sum. :lol

[angel_luv]

First, most of this money is going to security. Not Obama's, the crowd's. But you're right, maybe they should just say fuck it. Secondly, most of this cash was raised by donations to Obama's Inauguration Committee, not from taxes.
Couldn't they make the whole thing less of a spectacle?
If it was not such a public drawn out affair, wouldn't it cost less for crowd security?



do you have any idea how much tax revenue this is going to generate for DC? Obviously not

Are you suggesting this is all just one big money making scheme?


People can spend money how they please, you are correct. But that does not mean that I have to approve of it or pretend that I do.

[balli]

Couldn't they make the whole thing less of a spectacle?
It's not a spectacle. It's a fucking presidential inauguration.


If it was not such a public drawn out affair, wouldn't it cost less for crowd security?
You're right. I mean the 43 other presidents got a big party, but what 250 years of tradition? I mean he is the fucking anti-christ after all, right?




Are you suggesting this is all just one big money making scheme?
No. I'm saying it's a large public event that like any large public event, will generate tax revenue for the city that is hosting it.



People can spend money how they please, you are correct. But that does not mean that I have to approve of it or pretend that I do.
Apparently you're the only person in America these days who hasn't figured out spending is a good thing based on where were at economically. And you're right, you don't have to approve, or pretend to... but I find it funny you'd go out of your way to specifically disapprove. Other people's wallets are none of your fucking business.

[angel_luv]

You find it odd that I would make my opinion known on a public forum? Really?

My opinion on inaugurations, since I have been old enough to have one, is that they are overblown and way over priced.
President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, the next President- it is not personal, just a general principle.

I also feel that an enormous amount of resources are wasted on campaigning. That again goes for every candidate.

That is my opinion and I am not at all ashamed of it. Nor will anything you say make me ashamed.

If you sincerely had wished to educate me then you could have made your post minus the obscenities and insults.

[balli]

You find it odd that I would make my opinion known on a public forum? Really?
Nope. I find it odd that your opinion would be: I disagree with how other people, as American citizens, choose to spend their money and their time in the name of a positive cause.

Look, whether you agree or not that in actuality the past 8 years have been a horrible nightmare, you have to at least agree it's been horrible for a sizable portion of the population. 50% of us have been through hell. We've been looking forward to this more than ANYTHING ELSE in our lives. And if we, as American citizens, want to donate our hard earned money, or fly out to DC, or take in an HBO concert- we damn sure have a right to do so. And while you have a 100% right not to do so, I just yeah, find it very funny that you'd sit back and get all bent at the people who are choosing to have a good time.

And if that costs DC a lot in terms of security? Tough. This is America. Post 9/11. And we protect our own here. If you don't like it move somewhere else. (Never minding the earlier argument about how much DC stands to gain back in tax revenue)

And if you want to have a larger argument about the cost of campaigns, inaugurations, etc... That's fine, I'd probably agree, but it's really a moot debate. This is the system we got and while in general I think we'd all like to see less money driving politics, ain't nobody doing a damn thing about it and I fail to see why Obama's inauguration, as opposed to any other donation based political event, should become a scapegoat in your mind.

Plus, I find it kind of hard to believe that you were politically aware or independent enough to be sitting around bad mouthing the cost of the Bush inaugurations.


My opinion on inaugurations, since I have been old enough to have one...

President angel luv? Scary.

[angel_luv]

You're determine to have the last word, so pretend I didn't post this and then you will have it.

[baseline bum]

Fuck Jesus. It's just my opinion, so don't get bent out of shape.

[DarrinS]

Does ballijuana have Turrets syndrome? Just curious.

[jman3000]

angel luv should stick to the spurs forum... it seems whenever she ventures to the club or political forums, she just says something that really annoys me.

[jman3000]

im just saying.

[balli]

Does ballijuana have Turrets syndrome? Just curious.

I know. :depressed I swear way too much and I really am ashamed. I can filter it, but (and see I'd really like to say "fuck it" right here), it's politics. Still, I need to consciously cut down.

[Kermit]

Also, those Bush and Clinton figures leave out security costs. The believed total for the 2005 Bush inauguration was $157 million.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/us/politics/06donors.html

Basically, this all boils down to Ducks sucking hairy balls.

[Cry Havoc]

Fuck Jesus. It's just my opinion, so don't get bent out of shape.

:rolleyes

That's incredibly weak. Phrasing something specifically to offend and upset another person? She doesn't seem to be nearly as "bent" as you are, for what it's worth.


angel luv should stick to the spurs forum... it seems whenever she ventures to the club or political forums, she just says something that really annoys me.

Oh no! Jman is getting upset! Whatever shall we do!?

Please remind me when this forum was created to ensure your happiness and contentment. I'll let Kori know ASAP that you're getting butthurt over here so she can coddle you and make it better.

[ratm1221]

They should. :) It would be a much more beneficial investment.

Jesus needs money?

[ratm1221]

You're determine to have the last word, so pretend I didn't post this and then you will have it.

Translation: "You just totally made me sound like a dumbass. I think I'll go over here."

[ratm1221]

Apparently donating money to a real person that is alive is dumb, but giving your money to an invisible man that lives in the sky or to someone that has been dead and rotting for about 2,000 years is money well spent.

[clubalien]

the great thing for the gov is they can spend anything and use the excuse it is stimulus for the economy

[Mr. Peabody]

Apparently donating money to a real person that is alive is dumb, but giving your money to an invisible man that lives in the sky or to someone that has been dead and rotting for about 2,000 years is money well spent.

But if we don't give money, how will the ministers be able to tell us what Jesus is saying....?

[MannyIsGod]

Where do you guys think the money spent goes? To some big pit in the ground with a sign that says inauguration costs? Or to people who provide services and own companies and employ people?

Do you realize how utterly stupid the statements made talking about how bad the economy is and how bad it is to spend money? What? Do you realize the economy is poor when people don't spend money, so how is the spending of money bad for the economy again?

Angel, you do realize they're not going above and beyond the inauguration events of previous inaugurations right? You realize the extra costs are due to people coming to DC because they want to be here, right? Its not as though the inauguration is an event that is big because of some huge advertising campaign or promotion company hyping it up.

Do you realize that the biggest promotion that has been put on by the Obama camp was pushing an incredible day of public service today and that the campaign to do so resulted in record turnouts for that kind of service? Do you think that is a waste, Angel?

It makes you all look so damn bitter when you get angry about these things. Seriously, Obama should not have made such a spectacle out of public serviice the way he did today. I mean I got no less than 20 emails over the past few weeks on that subject. Its horrible.

[AntiChrist]

How dare anyone question my spending. I am beyond criticism.

[Buddy Holly]

Where do you guys think the money spent goes? To some big pit in the ground with a sign that says inauguration costs? Or to people who provide services and own companies and employ people?

Do you realize how utterly stupid the statements made talking about how bad the economy is and how bad it is to spend money? What? Do you realize the economy is poor when people don't spend money, so how is the spending of money bad for the economy again?

Angel, you do realize they're not going above and beyond the inauguration events of previous inaugurations right? You realize the extra costs are due to people coming to DC because they want to be here, right? Its not as though the inauguration is an event that is big because of some huge advertising campaign or promotion company hyping it up.

Do you realize that the biggest promotion that has been put on by the Obama camp was pushing an incredible day of public service today and that the campaign to do so resulted in record turnouts for that kind of service? Do you think that is a waste, Angel?

It makes you all look so damn bitter when you get angry about these things. Seriously, Obama should not have made such a spectacle out of public serviice the way he did today. I mean I got no less than 20 emails over the past few weeks on that subject. Its horrible.

Hannity doesn't.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/01/washington_thousands_of_people.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/19/MN4R15D7IC.DTL
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/6219868.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-mlkday20-2009jan20,0,6173161.story

Such a fucking spectacle, isn't it? Pay special attention to the numbers of volunteers who came out, what prompted their attendance, and why.

I'm sure if Obama was fully black he'd have doubled these numbers.