Suns vs Celtics

[kcplayboi_26]

Will Shaq play 2 games in a row? Will Amare vs KG continue. Will KG taunt Steve Nash?

[lurker]

If Shaq doesn't play, it's time to throw Porter under the bus. Literally.

[Reck]

If Shaq doesn't play, it's time to throw Porter under the bus. Literally.

[kcplayboi_26]

If Shaq doesn't play, it's time to throw Porter under the bus. Literally.

i agree, even tho i thought we should give the guy a chance when everyones bashing him

[xtremesteven33]

lets go C's

[NBA Junkie]

Celtics are getting their groove back and they'll win convincingly.

These Suns no longer scare me.

[sook]

go celtics

[crc21209]

Gotta go with the Celtics tonight, fuck the Suns.

[sribb43]

Pierce will fake another knee injury only to come back in the 4th and score 19 points and lead the C's to victory

[sonic21]

celtics 120
suns 101

[Reck]

Suns are getting pwned right now.

[lurker]

Yikes. Suns looking for a 20+ blowout loss tonight.

[Xylus]

4th game in 5 nights for us. We're gonna get our asses kicked tonight. Our players aren't young or athletic enough to play with enough energy to beat a team like the Celtics.

[Thunder Dan]

Boston's PA announcer makes it impossible to watch Celtics home games

that and that douche bag Rondo.....who the fuck falls for that fake pass?


"KKKKKK GGGGGGGGGGGGGG" - Boston PA guy in a annoying voice

[DPG21920]

Ginobili did that "ball fake" way before Rondo. His works like magic at least once a game.

[Thunder Dan]

if Rondo got hit by a car I wouldn't feel bad for him

[Reck]

Boston's PA announcer makes it impossible to watch Celtics home games

that and that douche bag Rondo.....who the fuck falls for that fake pass?


"KKKKKK GGGGGGGGGGGGGG" - Boston PA guy in a annoying voice

At least I dont have to listen to those fuckbags. Reggie Miller could be somewhat of a douche but he's passable.

Marv rocks.

[Thunder Dan]

At least I dont have to listen to those fuckbags. Reggie Miller could be somewhat of a douche but he's passable.

Marv rocks.

no, the guy in the arena that calls out their names after they score. I hope he gets run over by a bus after the game tonight and they have to scrape the road kill off the road with a putty knife

[Xylus]

7 TO's so far. I want to see the Suns go for 30 TO's tonight. Might as well.


Aren't the Cards going to the Super Bowl?

[Xylus]

9 TO's.

[Reck]

Get those Offensive rebound Suns. That's unacceptable.

[DrHouse]

The Suns are god awful. I feel sorry for their fans, this shit is just unbearable to watch.

[Xylus]

I can't think of a more annoying nickname than The Truth.

[Thunder Dan]

Tonight has all the makings for a KG antic...and by all the makings I mean a white PG

[xtremesteven33]

Terry Porter needs to be fired.


I can already see Kerr knocking on Flip Saunders door.

[Xylus]

The Suns are god awful. I feel sorry for their fans, this shit is just unbearable to watch.

We're the 6th seed in the West. We're not that bad, but I'm not surprised that a Lakers fan would make such a claim. Everyone sucks compared to the Lakers, right Laker fan? If Jesus played basketball, Kobe would still posterize him.

[Reck]

The Suns are god awful. I feel sorry for their fans, this shit is just unbearable to watch.

This is how Celtics should have played the Lakers on Christmas.

Had they played with this intesity the Lakers would have lose that game. No doubt.

[Thunder Dan]

I can't think of a more annoying nickname than The Truth.

Rondo is. There is nothing to like about Rondo. He is ugly, his game sucks, he can't shoot the ball, he can't hit free throws, he is a pussy, he has weird looking shoulders. I watch the games just hoping someone punches him square in the face

Plus him and PP can't close their mouths

[Xylus]

Celtics got that home cookin' going tonight.

[Thunder Dan]

Eddie House is a douche bag too.....who the fuck wears high socks? All he does is cherry pick at the 3 point line

[Reck]

A memo to the Suns player:

Tonight is not a good night to be missing shots.

I was expecting somewhat of a close game but I guess there wont be one? Meh

[Thunder Dan]

A memo to the Suns player:

Tonight is not a good night to be missing shots.

I was expecting somewhat of a close game but I guess there wont be one? Meh

they should stop acting like pussies and take it to the whole. You can't beat the Celtics in Boston playing like a bunch of women

They play defense like a bunch of girls. Fucking bump someone, don't let them dribble around and shoot open jumpers all game long

[Xylus]

Kind of hope this is a blowout, so we can give our starters some rest tonight. We still have 4 more games on this road trip, and our guys are already exhausted.

[Thunder Dan]

you can't expect a guy with a pony tail to play physical defense- they should have known that before they signed that guy

[Thunder Dan]

The Suns should ask DJ Augustine how to beat the Celtics....it's not going out and playing with your tampons in

[diego]

it pains me to say it cause i always hated him but shaq is the suns best player.

i cant recognize nash, whats going on suns fans?

[Thunder Dan]

it pains me to say it cause i always hated him but shaq is the suns best player.

i cant recognize nash, whats going on suns fans?

They don't take it to the hole, and on the defensive side, they won't bump anyone off their spot..they just let guys dribble around wherever they want then shoot without even contesting the shots. And they don't box out

[Reck]

Wow..Porter should just sit his starters and give them their much needed rest. This is pretty much hopeless.

[TheMadHatter]

This is how Celtics should have played the Lakers on Christmas.

Had they played with this intesity the Lakers would have lose that game. No doubt.

:lmao you're a fucking idiot.

The Celtics had come in winning 19 straight. They were playing great basketball. They just ran into the better team with a defensive gameplan they could not adjust to (i.e. Kobe on Rondo).

[Thunder Dan]

at haltime Shaq should take that guy with a pony tail outback and kick the shit out of him

[TheMadHatter]

Wow..Porter should just sit his starters and give them their much needed rest. This is pretty much hopeless.

Didn't the Spurs barely beat the lowly as Bobcats? I'd worry about your own team IMHO, they certainly won't fare well once they play real competition on the road.

[Kriz-Maxima]

The officiating has been awful in favor of the Celtics. Although in this game it wouldn't make a real difference.

[Kriz-Maxima]

:lmao you're a fucking idiot.

The Celtics had come in winning 19 straight. They were playing great basketball. They just ran into the better team with a defensive gameplan they could not adjust to (i.e. Kobe on Rondo).

Even after how that game ended I still think the C's would beat the Lakers on a 7 game series.

[Thunder Dan]

The officiating has been awful in favor of the Celtics. Although in this game it wouldn't make a real difference.

the calls go toward the aggressor- it's always that way in the NBA

[Armando]

Looks like this is going to be a beat down. I know Boston is the better team but this is just inexcusable.

[Kriz-Maxima]

the calls go toward the aggressor- it's always that way in the NBA

True.

[sook]

Eddie House is a douche bag too.....who the fuck wears high socks? All he does is cherry pick at the 3 point line

+10 :lol

[Thunder Dan]

True.

the Suns version of a driving layup is a 28 foot fade away, and after they miss it they don't even try to get back and stop the breakout

If Porter is any type of coach he will throw a chair onto the floor

[Spur-Addict]

Wow, the Suns are getting smacked.

[Xylus]

Steve Kerr is shooting high-energy laser beams with his eyes.

[Reck]

:lmao you're a fucking idiot.

The Celtics had come in winning 19 straight. They were playing great basketball. They just ran into the better team with a defensive gameplan they could not adjust to (i.e. Kobe on Rondo).

What a fuckwit.

You'd be a damn fucking goddamn idiot to actually think Celtics played like they had been playing prior to that game.

Their normal "defense" wasn't entirely there that day.

[Brickhouse]

Where's Duhmare? Have the Suns given up already.

[Udokafan05]

I don't know why rondo is even being considered for all-star team. He makes horrible passes and decisons in fast breaks. To defend him all you have to do is play off him and dare him to take a jump shot.

[Reck]

Didn't the Spurs barely beat the lowly as Bobcats? I'd worry about your own team IMHO, they certainly won't fare well once they play real competition on the road.

Hey homer, Spurs 1, Lakers 0 in 2009

[Lars]

Suns are getting wtf wrecked.

[Armando]

Teams with championship aspirations don't spot 31 point leads even to the defending Champs. IDK why they even bother showing up.

[Xylus]

FUCK YEAH! The Cards are going to the fucking SUPER BOWL!!

Suck a dick, Pittsburghians!

And you, too, Philadelphians! Fuck Pennsylvania, bunch of fucking Quakers.

[IronMexican]

FUCK YEAH! The Cards are going to the fucking SUPER BOWL!!

Suck a dick, Pittsburghians!

And you, too, Philadelphians! Fuck Pennsylvania, bunch of fucking Quakers.

Congrats. Never would haave thought it.

[Xylus]

Refs throwing us a bone right now. Thanks, assholes. Maybe if we throw a pity party, the Suns can overcome a 30 point deficit.

[Xylus]

Unbelievable. Suns are shooting 47% right now.

[Armando]

So Amare where is this "gorilla game" you talked about after last night's game?

[Armando]

Unbelievable. Suns are shooting 47% right now.



Is amazing how they are shooting that well and are down by 30.

[Xylus]

I love Ray Allen. That guy should have been a Sun.

[scanry]

Unbelievable. Suns are shooting 47% right now.

Wow, and yet down by 30+ points. :wow:wow:wow


:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

[kcplayboi_26]

Refs throwing us a bone right now. Thanks, assholes. Maybe if we throw a pity party, the Suns can overcome a 30 point deficit.


lol

[lurker]

So Amare where is this "gorilla game" you talked about after last night's game?
He's playing about as well as the Suns Gorilla would.

[Reck]

Suns have like 15 TOs. That's what fucked them.

[scanry]

Shaq should seriously get a contract extension. That guy is the only saving grace from this Suns team.

I say trade Amare right about now and get a Chris Bosh or even a Al horford kind of player. I think Porter is done with Amare and this Suns team.

When was the last time that Amare didn't have a foul troubled game?

[sribb43]

Suns should have just flown to NYC, no point in even showing up for tonights game

[kcplayboi_26]

Shaq should seriously get a contract extension. That guy is the only saving grace from this Suns team.

I say trade Amare right about now and get a Chris Bosh or even a Al horford kind of player. I think Porter is done with Amare and this Suns team.

When was the last time that Amare didn't have a foul troubled game?


no way toronto would be dumb enough to trade bosh for amare, im sure the suns would jump all over it.

[Reck]

I'm sure Shaq is looking to bail on this Suns team.

With what the Suns have right now there is no way they will be even sniffing the NBA Finals.

[kcplayboi_26]

Suns should have just flown to NYC, no point in even showing up for tonights game

i agree, might as well. leave there ass in the locker room for the second half and make them take the fine. they dont deserve to be paid tonight anyway. who cares if its 4 game in 5 nights, this is inexcusable to be down this much

[DrHouse]

Hey homer, Spurs 1, Lakers 0 in 2009

Seriously? Did you seriously just try and talk shit about your REGULAR SEASON victory?

Last I checked the playoffs is where it counts. And this decade, the Lakers OWN your franchise 4-1. 4-1. Let that sink in. We'll make it 5-1 if your team can actually make the WCF.

[Reck]

Spurs are still 1-0 against your Fakers team this year. Let the past be the past mate. This is the present. Where I live.

[Unholy Turkey]

:lol Look at Perkins eat in front of the rest of the Celtics.

[Armando]

:lol Look at Perkins eat in front of the rest of the Celtics.




:lol That was funny

[MarHill]

Shaq should seriously get a contract extension. That guy is the only saving grace from this Suns team.

I say trade Amare right about now and get a Chris Bosh or even a Al horford kind of player. I think Porter is done with Amare and this Suns team.

When was the last time that Amare didn't have a foul troubled game?

Shaq has played better than I thought he would this season. I have to give him credit. He has been the Suns most consistent player!

:flag:

[lurker]

lol, Kerr realizes he'll be out of a job after this season.

[ManuTP9]

sons its ok, i told you the celtics would destroy you. sons you have to listen and pay attention. :lol

[Armando]

:lol

Anybody else hear the fan yell out "Amare wake up!"?

[Reck]

Wow if this keeps up, Suns wont score more then 70 points. lol

[Armando]

You know is a bad night when Scalabrine is getting praise for playing good defense on Amare.

[cobbler]

What a fuckwit.

You'd be a damn fucking goddamn idiot to actually think Celtics played like they had been playing prior to that game.

Their normal "defense" wasn't entirely there that day.

Do you think some of that might possibly have to do with they were up against the #1 offense? hmmmmmm

[pauls931]

I tuned in for about 5 seconds and saw the score and then turned off the TV...

[ducks]

I tuned in for about 5 seconds and saw the score and then turned off the TV...

losser

[Armando]

Why are the refs even calling fouls on Boston? Just let it end already!

[Reck]

losser

Why would anyone come home, turn on the tv and see their team losing by more then 25 points and expect them to watch the game like its an entertaining close game? Only a retard would enjoy it.

[DrHouse]

sons its ok, i told you the celtics would destroy you. sons you have to listen and pay attention. :lol

lame.

[NBA Dynasty]

Dragic more like tragic.....

[DrHouse]

Do you think some of that might possibly have to do with they were up against the #1 offense? hmmmmmm

He's not very bright.

The Celtics still really don't have a counter to when teams put bigger guards on Rondo.

[Reck]

Lakers had the Celtics on an off night.

Lets continue this convo when they meet again. If Lakers can beat them again then I'll be quiet about it.

[Biggems]

Walker takes out 2 Suns on same dunk........nasty

[pauls931]

Why would anyone come home, turn on the tv and see their team losing by more then 25 points and expect them to watch the game like its an entertaining close game? Only a retard would enjoy it.

I think it was 91 to 58 in favor of the celts when I tuned in, I figured I'd have more fun surfin' the web. Yuck, I though the suns beat the celts once last year...

[Armando]

Thank God that is over

[ManuTP9]

lame.

:lmao

[peskypesky]

I'm sure Shaq is looking to bail on this Suns team.

With what the Suns have right now there is no way they will be even sniffing the NBA Finals.

Shaq was just not right for the Suns. He should have gone to a half-court team. But f--- him.

[Findog]

Dear Shaq, Steve and Duhmare',

You can pull up your pants, the Celtics are done with you now. You will find your money on the bedside dresser. Mssrs. Garnett, Allen and Pierce appreciate you not making eye contact during the session.

[Armando]

Dear Shaq, Steve and Duhmare',

You can pull up your pants, the Celtics are done with you now. You will find your money on the bedside dresser. Mssrs. Garnett, Allen and Pierce appreciate you not making eye contact during the session.



:lol

[ClingingMars]

Seriously? Did you seriously just try and talk shit about your REGULAR SEASON victory?

Last I checked the playoffs is where it counts. And this decade, the Lakers OWN your franchise 4-1. 4-1. Let that sink in. We'll make it 5-1 if your team can actually make the WCF.

you fucking douchebag, you pick 1 regular season game by the Spurs to look at, and then when a Spurs fan hands your ass right back to ya with another regular season game, you bitch about the playoffs last year?

-Mars

[mogrovejo]

:lmao you're a fucking idiot.

The Celtics had come in winning 19 straight. They were playing great basketball. They just ran into the better team with a defensive gameplan they could not adjust to (i.e. Kobe on Rondo).

Really? The same gameplan you used on the Finals? Rondo's struggles have little to do with that - he's just inconsistent at this stage of his development.

Besides that, the C's weren't playing great basketball for awhile before that game. And you won a home game in the last 2 minutes. Anyway, if I were you, I'd pay attention to this:



Originally Posted by DrHouse http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/Style_Templates/Flashskin/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3040343#post3040343)
Seriously? Did you seriously just try and talk shit about your REGULAR SEASON victory? Last I checked the playoffs is where it counts

Some Lakers fans are wise...

[mogrovejo]

As a basketball fan, I feel aggravated by Kerr's decisions this off-season - and I'm very far from being the "all/most/some GMs are clueless" kind of fan. The Suns were a few moves away from being a serious contender; however, thanks to Kerr's idiocy they don't have a chance. And the flaws were so evident... It's a shame, he's wasting a year of Stoudemire's career and maybe the last championship-level season Nash and Shaq have on them. What a disgrace.

[mogrovejo]

Shaq on the Big 3:



“They had a great season last yea. They did it the right way. They did it the respectable way, so my hat goes off to the three Boston amigos.”
“If you look at the makeup of those guys, they’ve always been very unselfish. They were just on teams where they were the go-to guys and they had to take all the shots. And those guys are very nice guys. They stay out of trouble off the court. You can tell by the makeup that they’re nice gentlemen.
“Watching that series from a fan’s standpoint reminded me of the old Boston days, where you’d see three or four Hall of Famers playing together.”





KG on Shaq:

“It is like holding up a wall,” Garnett said. “Go home, basically knock out the foundation in your house and just hold up the wall, and when it’s about to fall on you that’s what it’s like holding onto Shaq. Yeah, that’s it. Go home, knock the foundation out, just off the side of your house, just knock it out. As the wall is coming toward you, just hold it up. In fact, hold it up for 48 minutes.”
Garnett paused, looking at a copy of the freshly printed game summary sitting in front of him on the table, then said, “Make it two hours and 15 minutes (the time of game).”
Wait! Can the guy holding up the house put it down during timeouts?
“Yeah, sure,” he said. “Have someone else in your house come hold it, take a break, take some Gatorade and then come back and just hold it up. That’s what it’s like. Let it fall on you, and then try to pick it back up. You’re not going to stop Shaq. Shaq’s too big and clever. He’s been in this game a long time and you don’t just score 25,000 points.”



http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1146477&srvc=rss

[Allanon]

Dear Shaq, Steve and Duhmare',

You can pull up your pants, the Celtics are done with you now. You will find your money on the bedside dresser. Mssrs. Garnett, Allen and Pierce appreciate you not making eye contact during the session.

That pretty much sums up the game. I would never have believed that ass-raping if I hadn't seen it myself.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Can they just buy Shaq out of his contract and let him go to a team who will affectively utilize him, I'm tired of Shaq getting double teamed down low and the other 4 players just standing around watching rather than trying to get open, Amaretard does this a lot.

Unless the ball is in his hands or he's setting a pick for a Nash screen and roll, Amaretard just stands around and watches the game. On defense it's even worse he just stands in one spot and watches the ball choosing when to go for a steal or block since guarding the player you're told to guard doesn't get you any stats.

[lurker]

Nash will be on Late Night with Conan O'Brien tonight. Maybe Pierce will loan him his wheelchair. I imagine it would be hard to walk after being the Celtics' little whore.

[lefty]

Nash will be on Late Night with Conan O'Brien tonight. Maybe Pierce will loan him his wheelchair. I imagine it would be hard to walk after being the Celtics' little whore.

Nash and Dirk are in the same boat

[Findog]

As a basketball fan, I feel aggravated by Kerr's decisions this off-season - and I'm very far from being the "all/most/some GMs are clueless" kind of fan. The Suns were a few moves away from being a serious contender; however, thanks to Kerr's idiocy they don't have a chance. And the flaws were so evident... It's a shame, he's wasting a year of Stoudemire's career and maybe the last championship-level season Nash and Shaq have on them. What a disgrace.

I blame Sarver's cheapskate ways more than Kerr. They were not going to win a title as is under D'Antoni with his indifference to defense and his short rotations. And Marion had to go - I don't know that I would've done Marion for Shaq, as the rumored Marion for AK deal would've made more sense. But they have always had a crippling weakness at backup PG and had many opportunities to address it. Instead, they sold off first-round draft picks to stay out of luxury tax territory when they could've easily made that money back with the revenue that comes from winning a championship. They sold the pick that became Rondo and they traded Rudy Fernandez (or was it Sergio Rodriguez?) to Portland. Sarver saved money on the front end when he probably could've made it back on the back end.

[Indazone]

With Shaq, Nash and Amare, clearly Porter is not the coach to lead them forward. With the squad they have it's going to have to be a Pat Riley type coach or protege with a solid defensive mindset to lead them to the promised land. That means JVG, Thibodeau or Stan Van Gundy.

[mogrovejo]

I blame Sarver's cheapskate ways more than Kerr. They were not going to win a title as is under D'Antoni with his indifference to defense and his short rotations. And Marion had to go - I don't know that I would've done Marion for Shaq, as the rumored Marion for AK deal would've made more sense. But they have always had a crippling weakness at backup PG and had many opportunities to address it. Instead, they sold off first-round draft picks to stay out of luxury tax territory when they could've easily made that money back with the revenue that comes from winning a championship. They sold the pick that became Rondo and they traded Rudy Fernandez (or was it Sergio Rodriguez?) to Portland. Sarver saved money on the front end when he probably could've made it back on the back end.

Meh...budgetary reasons aren't an excuse for a badly executed job. They couldn't go over the luxury tax and I assume for good reasons. The financial health - and ultimately the survival - of the franchise is above everything, from my perspective. The idea that they'd be able to win a championship for sure if they hadn't sold those picks

That myth about D'Antoni teams not playing defence has to finish. People can't keep being influenced by the pace of the game.

Right now, the Suns are the 26th best defensive team in the NBA.
Last season, with D'Antoni, they were the 16th best.
The season before that, the 13th best.
And in 05/06, the 16th best.

So, they went from being an average or slightly above average defensive team under D'Antoni - and mostly because they didn't have enough quality defenders - to a very bad defensive team this season. Yeah, they don't allow so many PPG, but that's exclusevely because thy play much slower.

ANyway, my point is about his Summer moves. He needed a backup PG - he got a kid who wasn't nowhere near ready to fill that role (and with limited potential). He needed a backup big - he got a kid who wasn't nowhere near ready (and with limited potential). He needed a wing stopper - he got Barnes who can't defend.

With the same assets, he could have signed Tyronne Lue and Quinton Ross, drafted Speights or Hibbert and some guy like Mbah a Moute. They'd be contenders by now. His decisions were very puzzling to me.

[Findog]

[QUOTE=mogrovejo;3042826]Meh...budgetary reasons aren't an excuse for a badly executed job. They couldn't go over the luxury tax and I assume for good reasons. The financial health - and ultimately the survival - of the franchise is above everything, from my perspective.

They couldn't go over the luxury tax bc like many owners, the idea is odious to Sarver. Look at the Celtics - they went over the luxury tax to trade for Garnett and sign the role players necessary to fill out the roster. I'm sure that between the jersey sales and the 14 home playoff games, Boston made the money back. And I highly doubt the financial health of the franchise was at stake if they went over the luxury tax. It's always easy to dump salary later on and hold a fire sale.



The idea that they'd be able to win a championship for sure if they hadn't sold those picks

Nash has ALWAYS broken down in the playoffs from playing heavy minutes. A reliable backup or another defensive big man would've gone a long way. There are no guarantees in sports. There was no guarantee that KG, Allen and Pierce would mesh so well and win a title, but it was a risk worth taking. The Suns never made an attempt to shore up their roster's weaknesses.

That myth about D'Antoni teams not playing defence has to finish. People can't keep being influenced by the pace of the game.


Right now, the Suns are the 26th best defensive team in the NBA.
Last season, with D'Antoni, they were the 16th best.
The season before that, the 13th best.
And in 05/06, the 16th best.

So, they went from being an average or slightly above average defensive team under D'Antoni - and mostly because they didn't have enough quality defenders - to a very bad defensive team this season. Yeah, they don't allow so many PPG, but that's exclusevely because thy play much slower.

I never said the Suns were horrible defensively under D'Antoni, but they were never anything better than average, adjusted for pace. Up-tempo, fastbreak teams can win titles (Showtime Lakers), but the Suns never committed to playing the kind of defense that it takes. Those Showtime Lakers could play defense. You have to be elite defensively, and the Suns never were.