How did Bruce Bowen get so many votes?

[z0sa]

http://www.nba.com/2009/allstar2009/01/22/allstar_final.allstar09.20090122/index.html

I am dumbfounded by these numbers. Bowen was close to starting but Amare took large leads late, however Bruce ends up beating Ron Artest by 30,000 votes, Melo by 55,000 and Dirk by nearly 300,000 :wow

Who the fuck voted for this guy cause I honestly did not. Additionally considering how Pop's saving him this season ... :downspin:

[ManuTP9]

LMAO! i didnt either, i mean maybe theres some serious bruce fans out there or he cheated to get some votes. lol

[mystargtr34]

Someone should get to the bottom of this Lol. TrueHoop maybe?

Put something out there.

Im really interested.

[z0sa]

Imagine if Bruce Bowen would have started for the All-Star Game :lmao

[urunobili]

all Amare, Melo and Dirk haters were constantly voting for Bruce... I wish i voted him daily now that i see this :depressed

[Austin_Toros]

LMAO! this truly is hilarious!

I have no idea WHO voted for him or WHY.
Then again, he's been one of the best defenders this past decade and I don't think has won the defensive player of the year award.

But beating out Melo, Dirk and other..... I've got nothing!


Does this mean he's going to play???

[gingerwave]

Maybe he has a lot of friends and family. :lol

[timvp]

Damn, too bad we didn't know it was going to be that close or else SpursTalk could have helped push him over the top.

2.8 ppg starter :hat

[mystargtr34]

We should have after the 3rd returns, although he was still a few hundred thousand votes behind. Maybe fans all over the world started to give him votes after seeing him relatively close to the second starting spot just to try and make a mockery of the voting.

:lmao damn how did we miss this.

[Hype Man Manu]

Hell yeah if I would have known I would have voted for him everyday.

[scanry]

I voted for him. :hat

Hey i wanted to see Bruce playing in the All-Star game. :lol

[Yorae]

2.8 ppg starter :hat

:lmao Is that for the first time?

[z0sa]

:lmao Is that for the first time?

I'm almost positive it would have been..

[Amarelooms]

What a joke...Bruce freakin Bowen should not be in the NBA let alone the all-star game lol

[Emeyin]

Wow, this is unbelievable.

[spursfan09]

Hmm. Maybe all the France and Argentina fans.

[Bruno]

Imagine if Bruce Bowen would have started for the All-Star Game :lmao

In Phoenix !!! :rollin

[xcoriate]

Realgm maybe?

I know they've propped up candidates before?

[Kori Ellis]

It looks like to me that an enormous amount of voters voted for a San Antonio straight ticket. Duncan, Manu, Tony and Bowen all had a crazy amount more votes this year than they did last year. It doesn't totally explain the Bowen situation, but it's part of it.

[phyzik]

I think next year it should be a Spurstalk rally to try and get him in if he is still playing, that would be magical!!!! :rollin

[sa_kid20]

In Phoenix !!! :rollin

:lmao Oh man that would've been pure gold!

[timvp]

I seriously think China recognizes game and they voted TP, Manu, Bowen, Duncan and Yao. :smokin

[z0sa]

In Phoenix !!! :rollin

I feel horrible horrible HORRIBLE not voting for him now. If all of ST could have rallied together, we may have been able to push him over the top. I dunno if we'll have another chance like this again :lol

[Kori Ellis]

It looks like to me that an enormous amount of voters voted for a San Antonio straight ticket. Duncan, Manu, Tony and Bowen all had a crazy amount more votes this year than they did last year. It doesn't totally explain the Bowen situation, but it's part of it.

Duncan had 860K+ more than he had last year
Manu had 1.1M more
Tony had 580K+ more

[MavDynasty]

The Nba is Rigged.

[z0sa]

Duncan had 860K+ more than he had last year
Manu had 1.1M more
Tony had 580K+ more

I was a bit skeptical, yet the numbers work. But why? Why all of a sudden this year, especially when Bowen hasnt been starting or playing heavy minutes?


The Nba is Rigged.

Yeah, they just love the Spurs and all the revenue they bring in. All that money we lose going over the luxury tax helps out the other teams in the L as well. Overall, you'd have to say all 4 of our championships were won playing 5 v 8, the refs being in our pocket of course.

[HarlemHeat37]

I voted for Bowen every time..

there wasn't an alternative for me..

Dirk has become underrated, but he's a choker, so he loses my respect..Amare is a soft, selfish, piece of shit..Carmelo endangers lives with his drunk driving, and he also slaps people and runs away..

[raspsa]

OK, I bet it was a ST member who hacked the system..:lol

[Man Mountain]

I didn't even vote for him and I'm a Spurs fan



:cry

[Amarelooms]

I voted for Bowen every time..

there wasn't an alternative for me..

Dirk has become underrated, but he's a choker, so he loses my respect..Amare is a soft, selfish, piece of shit..Carmelo endangers lives with his drunk driving, and he also slaps people and runs away..

Hahaha you are either joking or a complete moron :elephant

[sexinthatsx]

I seriously think China recognizes game and they voted TP, Manu, Bowen, Duncan and Yao. :smokin

That actually might very well be the case, there's a lot of fans from chinawho happen to love the spurs. On top of that, one of the reasons I think bruce bowen got so many votes is because when I loggedon to vote for the all-star game, I saw bruce bowen's name at the near top of the list for forwards. It was weird seeing his name there out of nowhere, but nevertheless I voted for him. GO BRUCE!

[Mal]

If Amare get injured , that means Bowen would start in All-Star game ? Should coach Jackson call him to play ?

Hilarious situation

[Hemotivo]

argentinians love bowen

[Yorae]

Bowen so good this year he unleashed his long kept secret cross over jutsu on Granger.

[kenson-q]

I regret not voting to BOWEN now.I am chinese.As I know,many chinese spursfans didn't vote this year including myself.Because we know Tim will attend this game with no doubt.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I am pretty sure that the Voting this year was rigged... first off, no way did Chris Paul end up beating Mcgrady in votes, he was 200k votes behind Paul at the time of the last returns.

The only thing I can think of, is maybe the Yao and Mcgrady feud pushed China to vote for Paul.

[ploto]

Do the Spurs still bring in "groups" just to punch out ballots for them? I know they used to. It is part of why I always thought it so two-faced to act as if they did not care about All-Star games.

[bigdog]

I'm guessing that a bunch of Spurs fans just voted all Spurs guys. It is extremely weird. I kept checking the ticker at the bottom of the sports channels to make sure I wasn't going blind. That's insane. I've never voted for Bowen. Hell, I've never voted for Manu either.

[peskypesky]

Maybe Bruce Bowen is Chinese for Lebron James?

[Creation88]

so awesome.

[ElNono]

Just noticed Manu got more votes than Amare...

[Ditty]

theres alot of spurs fans in the world

[BlackSwordsMan]

wow he got 1.3 million votes

[Warlord23]

Do the Spurs still bring in "groups" just to punch out ballots for them? I know they used to. It is part of why I always thought it so two-faced to act as if they did not care about All-Star games.

Funny that you never brought this point up when candy-ass Rasho and Beno were on the Spurs.

[angelbelow]

one of the great mysterious of this generation.

[ohmwrecker]

There are a lot of weird things about the ballot results. The amount of votes Bowen received is not that strange by comparison. Bowen was voted behind Duncan, Anthony, Stoudemire, Artest, Nowitzki & Gasol, but in front of Battier, Scola, Howard & Aldridge. Maybe a little strange, but not that far fetched.
Dwight Howard got more vote than Kobe or LeBron, which is infinitely more interesting.
Of course, Howard didn't have much competition at his position in the east.
I think that a huge swing in international voting would account for the amount of votes that Ginobili & Parker received, but they are actually better than everyone they were voted ahead of.
There are a lot of people in China and Yao is probably the best center in the west, but
Jianlian should not have even been on the ballot. Third best forward in the east? That is ridiculous. C'mon China! Jianlian is beter than Pierce? Bosh? Anybody else on the ballot? I don't think so.
Allen Iverson is great, but he doesn't deserve to start. Not this year. Devin Harris got robbed. Joe Johnson & Jameer Nelson were last? Criminal.
Samuel Dalembert only beat Rasheed Wallace by less than 2k votes, but seriously, how does that happen?
And how did Greg Oden get more votes than Chandler, Jefferson & Camby. Is anyone paying attention?

[planaria]

Hmm. Maybe all the France and Argentina fans.

I thing they´d rather to vote in Parker/Manu.

[z0sa]

Bowen was voted behind Duncan, Anthony, Stoudemire, Artest, Nowitzki & Gasol, but in front of Battier, Scola, Howard & Aldridge

Bowen was voted in front of everyone in the first half of your sentence barring Stoudemore, as well as the others. That's what so crazy.

Bowen also beat Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, and Andrew Bynum in total votes to name a few in the West. Just for fun, out East he also beat Paul Pierce, Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, and Devin Harris, along with every center but Dwight Howard by miles.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I always vote a straight Spurs ticket. Every year, without exception. Except I never voted in Rasho.

[TDMVPDPOY]

did the chinese fans thought bruce bowen is ryan bowen? lmao

[Manufan909]

Bowen was voted in front of everyone in the first half of your sentence barring Stoudemore, as well as the others. That's what so crazy.

Bowen also beat Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, and Andrew Bynum in total votes to name a few in the West. Just for fun, out East he also beat Paul Pierce, Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, and Devin Harris, along with every center but Dwight Howard by miles.

How the hell does Bowen get more votes than these stars??? The straight ticket must be the explanation, or maybe the public likes dirty players now more than they used to.:downspin:

[ohmwrecker]

Bowen was voted in front of everyone in the first half of your sentence barring Stoudemore, as well as the others. That's what so crazy.

Bowen also beat Tony Parker, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, and Andrew Bynum in total votes to name a few in the West. Just for fun, out East he also beat Paul Pierce, Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, and Devin Harris, along with every center but Dwight Howard by miles.

Your information is wrong. Bowen received 509,593 votes. Ginobili (669,837) and Parker (614,939) both have more.

Here are 2 different sources:
http://www.insidehoops.com/all-star-voting-results.shtml
http://www.lebasketbawl.com/2009-nba-all-star-game-voting-results-fourth-round/

Where are you guys finding info that says Bowen finished 3rd amongst west forwards?

[DMX7]

Where are you guys finding info that says Bowen finished 3rd amongst west forwards?

http://www.nba.com/2009/allstar2009/01/22/allstar_final.allstar09.20090122/index.html

Ok what's really crazy is if Spurs fans didn't vote for him.... then who the hell did? I guess it has to be an error.

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://www.nba.com/2009/allstar2009/01/22/allstar_final.allstar09.20090122/index.html

Ok what's really crazy is if Spurs fans didn't vote for him.... then who the hell did? I guess it has to be an error.

simple with millions of chinese fans either voting for him, or

someone at home loading stacks of bots and voting bowen in....

so simple

[DMX7]

simple with millions of chinese fans either voting for him, or

someone at home loading stacks of bots and voting bowen in....

so simple

they have measures to prevent that.

[ohmwrecker]

There is something funky going on. Why would the Chinese vote for Bowen? I don't get that part of the conspiracy.

[senorglory]

Just goes to prove my old theory: Germans Love David Hasselhoff... and bruce bowen..

[z0sa]

There is something funky going on. Why would the Chinese vote for Bowen? I don't get that part of the conspiracy.

maybe Bonzi Wells averaging 40/9/5 a game all over China's CBA has them valuing perimeter defenders.

[Manudona]

Darn! I wanted to vote Oberto in for the slam dunk contest, but didn't for I thought it would have been a lost cause, but now that I see this... We should do it for next year!

[Behrooz24]

There are a lot of weird things about the ballot results. The amount of votes Bowen received is not that strange by comparison. Bowen was voted behind Duncan, Anthony, Stoudemire, Artest, Nowitzki & Gasol, but in front of Battier, Scola, Howard & Aldridge. Maybe a little strange, but not that far fetched.
Dwight Howard got more vote than Kobe or LeBron, which is infinitely more interesting.
Of course, Howard didn't have much competition at his position in the east.
I think that a huge swing in international voting would account for the amount of votes that Ginobili & Parker received, but they are actually better than everyone they were voted ahead of.
There are a lot of people in China and Yao is probably the best center in the west, but
Jianlian should not have even been on the ballot. Third best forward in the east? That is ridiculous. C'mon China! Jianlian is beter than Pierce? Bosh? Anybody else on the ballot? I don't think so.
Allen Iverson is great, but he doesn't deserve to start. Not this year. Devin Harris got robbed. Joe Johnson & Jameer Nelson were last? Criminal.
Samuel Dalembert only beat Rasheed Wallace by less than 2k votes, but seriously, how does that happen?
And how did Greg Oden get more votes than Chandler, Jefferson & Camby. Is anyone paying attention?



He's Chinese, I'm Chinese, I'm gonna vote for him!! Sound familiar?



*cough* 50% of Obama supporters

[ohmwrecker]

I don't vote for white dudes because I'm a white dude.

[milkyway21]

I used to vote for who I think deserve to get invites in the ASG

I'm kind of tired seeing Phoenix having 3 players each yr.

This yr I voted only for the Spurs. 35x incl Bowen. different line each time :D

[crc21209]

Hell I voted a San Antonio straight ticket fuck everyone else! haha It wouldve been hilarious if he wouldve started!

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

bruce bowen got more votes than carmelo, dirk and Pau?!:lol shows what a joke the vote has become!!

[024]

i voted for bowen a few times. i sometimes did a straight spurs ticket with parker, ginobili, bowen, duncan + yao. the rest of the time i voted for dirk. i stopped voting for ginobili when tmac was about to win and switched to paul.

[Slydragon]

Bowen paid me to vote for him daily, I would wake up and hit up the libraries.

[DAF86]

Just noticed Manu got more votes than Amare...

A Paul, Kobe, Manu, Tim, Yao line-up makes a lot more sense as a basketball team than a Paul, Kobe, Amare, Tim, Yao one.

[DAF86]

I bet Bruce spent all season with a laptop in the bench voting for him, is not like he had something else to do.
But it doesn't matter, do you actually think that if Bowen would've been selected as a starter in the All-star game, the NBA would've reckoned it?

[phyzik]

Can you imagine Gary Payton's rant on TNT last night if Bruce freaking Bowen was voted as a starter? :lol

I think his head would explode.

[TheDarkSide.]

cause spurs fans want to see players from their team in the all star game?, i voted almost every day for Tim, Bruce, Manu, and Tony. Could care less about other teams players making it

[Spurs Brazil]

I always vote for the 4 Spurs

[ClingingMars]

I always vote for the 4 Spurs

[doldrums]

Here it is for those too lazy to go to the link

Player Votes
Tim Duncan (SA) 2,578,168
Amare Stoudemire (Pho) 1,460,429
Bruce Bowen (SA) 1,392,398
Ron Artest (Hou) 1,362,565
Carmelo Anthony (Den) 1,337,519
Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 1,107,926
Pau Gasol (LAL) 948,301
Shane Battier (Hou) 694,112
LaMarcus Aldridge (Por) 497,550
Luis Scola (Hou) 405,851
Josh Howard (Dal) 298,810

Guards
Player Votes
Kobe Bryant (LAL) 2,805,397
Chris Paul (NO) 2,134,798
Tracy McGrady (Hou) 1,678,516
Manu Ginobili (SA) 1,642,350
Tony Parker (SA) 1,084,361
Steve Nash (Pho) 677,211
Jamal Crawford (GS) 665,038
Rafer Alston (Hou) 550,199
Jason Kidd (Dal) 477,792
Brandon Roy (Por) 468,688
Chauncey Billups (Den) 466,073.

Centers
Player Votes
Yao Ming (Hou) 2,532,958
Shaquille ONeal (Pho) 1,850,018
Andrew Bynum (LAL) 549,131
Mehmet Okur (Utah) 437,106
Greg Oden (Por) 359,318
Andris Biedrins (GS) 357,984
Al Jefferson (Minn) 310,643
Tyson Chandler (NO) 242,356
Chris Kaman (LAC) 231,928
Marcus Camby (LAC) 158,491
Nick Collison (OKC) 154,309

2009 NBA ALL-STAR BALLOTING
The final results of balloting in the Eastern Conference for the 2009 NBA All-Star Game in Phoenix.
Forwards
Player Votes
LeBron James (Clev) 2,940,823
Kevin Garnett (Bos) 2,066,833
Yi Jianlian (NJ) 1,813,829
Paul Pierce (Bos) 1,238,763
Chris Bosh (Tor) 1,101,052
Hedo Turkoglu (Orl) 632,051
Shawn Marion (Mia) 405,573
Danny Granger (Ind) 365,810
Josh Smith (Atl) 321,129
Tayshaun Prince (Det) 274,540
Michael Beasley (Mia) 273,471

Guards
Player Votes
Dwyane Wade (Mia) 2,741,413
Allen Iverson (Det) 1,804,649
Vince Carter (NJ) 1,239,613
Devin Harris (NJ) 1,182,406
Luke Ridnour (Mil) 1,039,902
Ray Allen (Bos) 851,205
Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 635,540
Derrick Rose (Chi) 474,384
Jose Calderon (Tor) 445,584
Joe Johnson (Atl) 420,210
Jameer Nelson (Orl) 354,773

Centers
Player Votes
Dwight Howard (Orl) 3,150,181
Kendrick Perkins (Bos) 621,709
Rasheed Wallace (Det) 402,991
Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 396,119
Andrew Bogut (Mil) 357,997
Jermaine ONeal (Tor) 342,723
Al Horford (Atl) 323,302
Brendan Haywood (Wash) 291,490
Ben Wallace (Clev) 263,862
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cle) 219,697
Emeka Okafor (Char) 212,539

.

[MacGyver]

Crazy :spins

[JamStone]

Simple explanation.

Ninjas.

Voting ninjas.

[EricB]

It looks like to me that an enormous amount of voters voted for a San Antonio straight ticket. Duncan, Manu, Tony and Bowen all had a crazy amount more votes this year than they did last year. It doesn't totally explain the Bowen situation, but it's part of it.

Whats funny is Spurs fans are known for not voting often enough.

[Chief]

It's pretty simple if you ask me

For years, Bruce has been the best one on one defender, but people were overcome by his shadow of cheating supposedly. Now when when Spurs play Mavs, or Lakers, or Any Rivalry team of which Bruce guarded their best player, it's kind of dull.

REmember how intense the kobe/bruce rivalry was, Bruce use to make kobe take a lot of shots to get his points, not all the time, but he was pretty damn good, kobe even said bruce was the best defender he's played against.

I think now people miss the guy :lol

[EricB]

That is unreal.

I just have to wonder if there is a problem or discrepency.

[Leftyventricle]

lots of interesting thoughts here:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bruce+bowen+all-star+game&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

[milkyway21]

How did Bruce Bowen get so many votes?
fans want to see him stop those VC dunks for a change?

[Bigzax]

choke on it ghostwriter!

[iggypop123]

maybe they want him to go step on lebrons ankle

[Clandestino]

my gf is a teacher at a school here in sa. the san antonio schools had a contest as to how many paper ballots they could turn in. the most ballots supposedly would have the spurs or the coyote visit. that could be the explanation

[mikekim]

my gf is a teacher at a school here in sa. the san antonio schools had a contest as to how many paper ballots they could turn in. the most ballots supposedly would have the spurs or the coyote visit. that could be the explanation

That is all kinds of awesomeness. I'm praying that they do it again next year. And next year...they'll also have the diligent, tireless help of SpursTalk :toast

[exstatic]

That is all kinds of awesomeness. I'm praying that they do it again next year. And next year...they'll also have the diligent, tireless help of SpursTalk :toast

Next year, since he isn't a starter anymore, Bowen probably won't be on the ballot.:depressed

Brilliant strategy by the Spurs, though, to get the schools involved. They need to expand it next year, and have Coyote visits promised for the top 5 schools, ballot wise. That would get more schools revved up. A smaller school that may not think they can get the most ballots filled out may go all out to make the top 5, seeing that as a makeable goal.

[ploto]

my gf is a teacher at a school here in sa. the san antonio schools had a contest as to how many paper ballots they could turn in. the most ballots supposedly would have the spurs or the coyote visit. that could be the explanation

Told you so. The Spurs have groups who punch ballots for them but who do not actually attend the game.

[exstatic]

Told you so. The Spurs have groups who punch ballots for them but who do not actually attend the game.

And? People who vote online don't attend the games, either.

[Spurs#1]

I would assume for all the people that like players like Kobe, Lebron, whoever there's also a lot of haters. Bruce Bowen is the antithesis of those guys, not flashy, just a strong defender who gets under their skin. I'm sure there's more than one reason thou why all the spurs went up in votes.

[SpurAddict561]

I heard he put out a blog stating anyone that didn't vote for him was getting a kick to the face like Wally got.

I, for one, voted for him out of sheer fear of that.

[m33p0]

I would assume for all the people that like players like Kobe, Lebron, whoever there's also a lot of haters. Bruce Bowen is the antithesis of those guys, not flashy, just a strong defender who gets under their skin. I'm sure there's more than one reason thou why all the spurs went up in votes.
the biggest one is that the game will be in PHOENIX! :lol

[completely deck]

Told you so. The Spurs have groups who punch ballots for them but who do not actually attend the game.

EVERY team does it. I live in Houston and saw a news report on it.

I watched a Portland game on League Pass and THEY did a report on it.

It's not cheating and its not wrong, so don't even go there.