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JudynTX

02-17-2009, 11:27 AM

maybe we can add a thread in the sub forum that is "UTSA trash talk" but we need to sign a waiver in there that there is no crying or no swelling vagina's. So basically none of the UTSA supports can post in there hahhaha.

UTSA Troll Forum :toast

ATRAIN

02-17-2009, 11:31 AM

So is it safe to say that Lebomb is done after his meltdown?

Kermit

02-17-2009, 11:34 AM

So is it safe to say that Lebomb is done after his meltdown?

God, I hope not.

Kori Ellis

02-17-2009, 11:38 AM

I didn't ban him. If he leaves, that's on him.

Blake

02-17-2009, 11:50 AM

god, i hope not.

+1

ATRAIN

02-17-2009, 11:54 AM

yeah I hope not either. I wonder if he was drunk?

Blake

02-17-2009, 11:56 AM

god, i hope not.

+1

Dr. Gonzo

02-17-2009, 12:03 PM

yeah I hope not either. I wonder if he was drunk?

I don't know but I do know that every time I had a meltdown like that or went off on people I was drunk. :lol

Doug Collins

02-17-2009, 12:26 PM

yeah I hope not either. I wonder if he was drunk?

I think I may have found the culprit...

Unruptured Cerebral Aneurysm Symptoms
Before an aneurysm ruptures, patients often experience no symptoms of brain aneurysms. In about 40 percent of cases, people with unruptured aneurysms will experience some or all of the following cerebral aneurysm symptoms:

-Peripheral vision deficits
-Thinking or processing problems
-Speech complications
-Perceptual problems
-Sudden changes in behavior
-Loss of balance and coordination (I'm pretty sure he also had this, but I'll keep it off)
-Decreased concentration
-Short-term memory difficulty
-Fatigue

Seems to fit, although those symptoms seem to apply to 95% of UTSA supporters. Very similar in fact to their admissions rate, hmmm...

lebomb

02-17-2009, 12:34 PM

:lmao

are you drunk?

Actually I was.................. :lmao

Damn.........I went OFF!!! :rollin

:jekka I dont remember typing half of that rant!

My apologies Kori. You are just trying to do your job. I promise not to curse you out anymore. :lmao I still cant believe I snapped like that. :lol

I just want at Utsa sub forum..........thats all. :toast

Tony Micelli

02-17-2009, 12:37 PM

Ay oh, oh ay...I don't think this kid deserves a subforum.

lebomb

02-17-2009, 12:39 PM

Ay oh, oh ay...I don't think this kid deserves a subforum.

You havent been a lil tipsy :drunkbefore?

Emo Jesus

02-17-2009, 12:41 PM

I remember when I threw a temper tantrum because my Dad was going to let me go to the Fall Out Boy concert but he told me I had to be home by 10pm. I said a few angry words and he didn't let me go to the concert at all after that. I was angry but it was a just punishment. Not like that shit he pulled right after I turned 33. That was some bullshit.

Doug Collins

02-17-2009, 12:42 PM

Dr. Gonzo

02-17-2009, 12:43 PM

After all this I can't wait until they come back and say, "Can we have our subforum now?"

I called it.

Tony Micelli

02-17-2009, 12:47 PM

You havent been a lil tipsy :drunkbefore?

Ay oh, oh ay...It's just like I told Suhmantha after I punished her for getting drunk. It's understandable to make a mistake while drinking but that doesn't rid you of the consequences.

degenerate_gambler

02-17-2009, 01:00 PM

I just want at Utsa sub forum..........

does makes sense....

a little utsa sub-forum to the spurstalk college forum...

its a nice parallel of the southland conference to say, big 12, sec, mwc, conf usa, etc, etc.....

UTSADynasty

02-17-2009, 01:45 PM

does makes sense....

a little utsa sub-forum to the spurstalk college forum...

its a nice parallel of the southland conference to say, big 12, sec, mwc, conf usa, etc, etc.....

w00t w00t make it happen kori!! +1 +1 +1

pkbpkb81

02-17-2009, 04:29 PM

I didn't ban him. If he leaves, that's on him.

if you ban all the utsa people this wont happen anymore just saying

fyatuk

02-17-2009, 05:08 PM

if you ban all the utsa people this wont happen anymore just saying

If you ban all the anti-UTSA people it won't happen again either...

Just saying, stupid statement.

Best way to keep this from happening again: Everyone lighten up and calm the hell down.

pkbpkb81

02-17-2009, 06:01 PM

If you ban all the anti-UTSA people it won't happen again either...

Just saying, stupid statement.

Best way to keep this from happening again: Everyone lighten up and calm the hell down.

it's the utsa people that keep starting thread after thread, and that are calling people's work and trying to get them fired

also i hve no problem with the school just sick of most utsa people on here

dws009

02-17-2009, 06:34 PM

so utsa doesn't sell roadrunner chairs?

what a d-bag.

The oncampus bookstore sells UTSA chairs.

Blake

02-17-2009, 06:51 PM

The oncampus bookstore sells UTSA chairs.

I figured as much.

davey crockett still apparently can't afford one, even with his disposable income from his multimillion dollar business that he started with his two bare hands and a mule.

johngateswhiteley

02-17-2009, 07:01 PM

not only that, but JGW's attempted Aggie/Trojan takeover resulted in no shutdowns.

it was successful, but thats beside the point. i don't understand what is happening...?

j-6

02-17-2009, 07:35 PM

it was successful, but thats beside the point. i don't understand what is happening...?

You and the other two USC fans don't freak out and break down when random internet people talk shit about Tommy Trojan. Same with you and Doug when we rag on the fags that guard your border collie and your train station. Or when you guys dog us over Thug Life and UT football program.

It's all good. Lebomb needs to go on a jag and grab a keyboard a little more often.

johngateswhiteley

02-17-2009, 07:54 PM

You and the other two USC fans don't freak out and break down when random internet people talk shit about Tommy Trojan. Same with you and Doug when we rag on the fags that guard your border collie and your train station. Or when you guys dog us over Thug Life and UT football program.

It's all good. Lebomb needs to go on a jag and grab a keyboard a little more often.

so, its just words that are being thrown around? who cares? seems it would take more than that to shut down the forum.

btw, A&M raped t.u. last night. good times...good times.

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 09:37 PM

I figured as much.

davey crockett still apparently can't afford one, even with his disposable income from his multimillion dollar business that he started with his two bare hands and a mule.

lol, davey crockett, that's cool :hat

...as far as what the bookstore has, it is VERY limited. as of last month, they were sold out of chairs (the amount they ordered was a joke, btw). they also do not have any tents or flags either. just a few months ago they started selling hats with the new logo when they were readily available at walmart and academy.

we're working with the bookstore and distributors to get more of these items available. it's ridiculous they do not even carry flags, we had ours custom made. as far as the tents with the new logo, we found a distributor to make them but a minimum order was required so we're working with the athletic department staff to make this stuff available to everyone.

i'll personally keep EVERYONE on spurstalk updated as more products become available, this i promise

business-wise, my bad for bringing it up yesterday

as far as my tailgating proficiency, we are pro's. we do this everywhere. (ut, a&m, cowboys, alamobowl/hs games @ alamodome, nascar, etc). what i lack in logo chairs for all of my teams, i make up with a never ending supply of food & beverages, multiple flat screens with satellite service & video games, and the great company. (btw, u haven't lived till u've had our fajitas that get marinated for a week.) come on out it u want.

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 09:41 PM

coming out of your longhorn ice chest in a longhorn koozie?

no thanks.

actually it is a cooler with a spurs logo and we use non-logo cups.

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 09:50 PM

your buddies crossed that "imaginary make believe" line by crank-calling a few posters at their place of work.

I don't care who you are, that's f'ed up.

But apparently, per tony, its not banworthy.

as far as i know, nothing happened from the incident expect the college forum went down a few days while kori cleaned it up and added 2 sticky threads. no one was banned because of that...i agree it wasn't cool what went down, but it wasn't that big of a deal (according to the moderators)

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 09:56 PM

you don't have to go through usc, ou and mma threads.

unfortunately, the rest of us have to see those stupid UTSA stickies at the top of the college forum, and you imbeciles can't even keep your trash inside it's proper containers.

no one was complaining about the 2 sticky threads at the top of the page. everyone was complaining why MORE threads were being creating in addition to those threads. some non observers have said they had no problem with the number of threads. kori herself said it that she listened to other posters who had been here longer...i guess that's fine, but they'll still be a game thread especially as the madness starts

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:00 PM

:lol

:rolleyes

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:02 PM

all BS aside, God's planet, He can do whatever he wants and puts in the time and all of that is great. but that does not excuse him from being wrong in creating utsa freak........sorry

you gotta be joking.

you're more like the illegal immigrant trying to sue that rancher in Arizona for pulling a gun on you as you illegally crossed the border and ate his cow.

god and immigrant smack? c'mon, u'r better than that

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:04 PM

you just don't get it do you, Davey?

:rolleyes :rolleyes

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:06 PM

still clueless

u just keep on :troll -ing

Dr. Gonzo

02-17-2009, 10:08 PM

no one was complaining about the 2 sticky threads at the top of the page. everyone was complaining why MORE threads were being creating in addition to those threads. some non observers have said they had no problem with the number of threads. kori herself said it that she listened to other posters who had been here longer...i guess that's fine, but they'll still be a game thread especially as the madness starts

Why not just respect the fact that Kori wanted all UTSA to remain in those two threads? It is her forum and you should feel lucky to even have that. Not all universities have sticky threads. A supporters only thread I might add because you and your other fans can't handle a little smack.

Why not just follow your boys to utsasource.com and start something up there instead of acting a fool here and making more people hate the university you love?

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:19 PM

Why not just respect the fact that Kori wanted all UTSA to remain in those two threads? It is her forum and you should feel lucky to even have that. Not all universities have sticky threads. A supporters only thread I might add because you and your other fans can't handle a little smack.

she never said that to anyone, publicly or privately. sticky threads are just that. smack is smack and i really don't care (although, i agree with u some people on both sides did over react). but importance is a matter of presepective. someone started an a&mcc thread last week. i'm down with that, they're having a good season and the southland conference is ultra competitive this season. for UTSA, the next 2 games are against the 2 top teams in the SLC (a&mcc & sam hous st). PLUS u have local recruits signing with big east teams while UTSA has a team filled with jucos...and we're suppose to talk about this in one thread because rrinkorea wants that leach contract story on the front page. run the smack, i don't care, i'm here to talk sports.

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:23 PM

Why not just follow your boys to utsasource.com and start something up there instead of acting a fool here and making more people hate the university you love?

i'm acting a fool? i honestly do not care who "hates" what or who goes where or who does what. i'm here to talk sports. nothing i have done or said has or will warrant a warning let alone a ban. i'll keep this thing going single handedly if i have to. when u have little as far as rep for u'r team, there's really nothing to lose.

Doug Collins

02-17-2009, 10:27 PM

Awaiting the blake 8 post rebuttal special...

Doug Collins

02-17-2009, 10:32 PM

You and the other two USC fans don't freak out and break down when random internet people talk shit about Tommy Trojan. Same with you and Doug when we rag on the fags that guard your border collie and your train station. Or when you guys dog us over Thug Life and UT football program.

It's all good. Lebomb needs to go on a jag and grab a keyboard a little more often.

Fuck you j-6! That dog is worth more than your piece of shit drugged up walking sirloin. It's a pure bred border collie, you can't just get that shit at a local petsmart. It takes years of inbreeding to make something that beautiful and obnoxious, so of course we would defend it at all costs.

I don't give a shit about the train station.

Dr. Gonzo

02-17-2009, 10:33 PM

i'm acting a fool? i honestly do not care who "hates" what or who goes where or who does what. i'm here to talk sports. nothing i have done or said has or will warrant a warning let alone a ban. i'll keep this thing going single handedly if i have to. when u have little as far as rep for u'r team, there's really nothing to lose.

If all you have in life is "repping u'r team" on a message board, that just means you have a very sad life.

The reason people talk about Mike Leach's contract and other things like that is because Tech is a major university that gets national attention. NATIONAL attention. There are people on here that are from around the NATION. If you are annoyed about one thread on Mike Leach that only Blake and the Raiders guy gave a fuck about then how do you think everyone else feels about your 20 threads on topics that only 3 people give a fuck about?

And I know you are going to reply with your typical "i don't care about other haters, i'm here to rep my scool" shit so save it.

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:51 PM

If all you have in life is "repping u'r team" on a message board, that just means you have a very sad life.

The reason people talk about Mike Leach's contract and other things like that is because Tech is a major university that gets national attention. NATIONAL attention. There are people on here that are from around the NATION. If you are annoyed about one thread on Mike Leach that only Blake and the Raiders guy gave a fuck about then how do you think everyone else feels about your 20 threads on topics that only 3 people give a fuck about?

And I know you are going to reply with your typical "i don't care about other haters, i'm here to rep my scool" shit so save it.

thank you for the life lesson, but if all youu have in life is responding to and ripping people who disagree with you not on topics of discussion but the importance of those topics, then you have a very sad life.

this is a sports forum and i'm a sports fan, part of being that repping u'r team. i understand the "national" attention of a leach story (although i'll argue it's importance) but i was just using that as an example on how DEAD the college sports forum is and was. there is absolutely almost no college basketball talk here. start a tamucc thread or a jmu thread...aggie fan should be about it after last night, but just cause they don't do it, don't ask me not to. run smack, do whatever, disagree, or agree: that's what a forum is all about.

no one is telling u not to hate or troll or do whatever else happens in every single thread on this site...just quit complaining about the number of threads. if the moderator chooses to close them (like she does with trade parker, acquire wallace/carter threads), then let her.

bleedo&B

02-17-2009, 10:53 PM

tonylongoriafan

02-17-2009, 10:54 PM

Awaiting the blake 8 post rebuttal special...

me too

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:35 AM

no one was complaining about the 2 sticky threads at the top of the page. everyone was complaining why MORE threads were being creating in addition to those threads.

bingo. I dont think anyone has complained about the stickys......what we are all wondering is how you dopes seem to wander outside of your sticky playpens. Get the fuck back in there where you belong.

some non observers have said they had no problem with the number of threads.

what the hell does this even mean? :lol

kori herself said it that she listened to other posters who had been here longer...i guess that's fine, but they'll still be a game thread especially as the madness starts

goody. can't wait.

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:37 AM

god and immigrant smack? c'mon, u'r better than that

no......I dont think I am.

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:37 AM

:rolleyes

:lol

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:38 AM

u just keep on :troll -ing

you just keep on being ignorant

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:39 AM

:rolleyes :rolleyes

:lol:lol

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:47 AM

sticky threads are just that.

yeah, they are sticky, arent they.....

smack is smack and i really don't care (although, i agree with u some people on both sides did over react).

obviously you do care.

but importance is a matter of presepective. someone started an a&mcc thread last week. i'm down with that, they're having a good season and the southland conference is ultra competitive this season.

if a&mcc had their own stickys and started a new thread, I would tell them to get their happy asses back in the sticky icky where they belong

for UTSA, the next 2 games are against the 2 top teams in the SLC (a&mcc & sam hous st). PLUS u have local recruits signing with big east teams while UTSA has a team filled with jucos...and we're suppose to talk about this in one thread

you were supposed to talk about it in your sticky thread, but you nimrods from planet choderunner can't even follow one fucking direction.

because rrinkorea wants that leach contract story on the front page. run the smack, i don't care, i'm here to talk sports.

I think you've done everything BUT talk sports today.

I found out you hang out with 4 chicks who are all moms (probably strippers), own a multi million dollar company (yet you arent really rich......you just have disposable income whatevr the hell that means), and you are some big time tail gatin sunnavabicth that knows how to party hard at choderunner tailgates, only you barely own one piece of utsa gear......

yet I (thankfully) learned nothing new about utsa.

great job.

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:48 AM

me too

fuck off

sorry, that's only 7

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:55 AM

wait a sec......

this is a sports forum and i'm a sports fan, part of being that repping u'r team.

is part of that reppin the idiots that hang out with you while they crank call the library?

tlfan/j.j./davey cockett.......u'r an idiot

j-6

02-18-2009, 12:56 AM

I found out you hang out with 4 chicks who are all moms (probably strippers), own a multi million dollar company (yet you arent really rich......you just have disposable income whatevr the hell that means), and you are some big time tail gatin sunnavabicth that knows how to party hard at choderunner tailgates, only you barely own one piece of utsa gear......

yet I (thankfully) learned nothing new about utsa.

great job.

He smashes fertile women that like to party until 4AM. We've all done it. I don't know how much I can fault him unless he's setting up franchise families.

Doug Collins

02-18-2009, 01:14 AM

fuck off

sorry, that's only 7

Well done!

DMX7

02-18-2009, 03:40 AM

:gpower

johngateswhiteley

02-18-2009, 04:58 AM

i can't believe how dumb all this is.

bleedo&B

02-18-2009, 07:21 AM

The bliss in all this is Blake spending hours reubtalling people he detests because they OVERsupport a university. Fucking idiot! Wait a minute Blake, are you going to tell Tony now to Meet you at 11pm sharp, "On the corner of Commerce & Houston! We'll see how tough a man you are now!" Freaking pussy! Everyone in this damn site started laughing. A couple of posts later you admitted to being such a pussy and you LIKE WATCHING 2 GUYS KISS & DON'T MIND IT.....

CubanMustGo

02-18-2009, 07:41 AM

i can't believe how dumb all this is.

fyatuk

02-18-2009, 07:43 AM

it's the utsa people that keep starting thread after thread, and that are calling people's work and trying to get them fired

also i hve no problem with the school just sick of most utsa people on here

I understand that, and that's fucked up shit right there. BUT, it never would have gotten there if the anti-UTSA assholes hadn't gone overboard in their bitching. Escalation is always the fault of both parties.

fyatuk

02-18-2009, 07:57 AM

own a multi million dollar company (yet you arent really rich......you just have disposable income whatevr the hell that means)

I would assume "multi million dollar corporation" is discussing gross revenue, or general capital, not profits. Many "multi-million dollar corporations" lose money (see current financial crises full of multi-BILLION dollar corporations losing money).

I'd say TLF considers himself mid to upper middle class, or possibly lower echelon upper class (from the little I've seen him write about himself). Rich is very subjective though.

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:41 AM

I think you've done everything BUT talk sports today.

I found out you hang out with 4 chicks who are all moms (probably strippers), own a multi million dollar company (yet you arent really rich......you just have disposable income whatevr the hell that means), and you are some big time tail gatin sunnavabicth that knows how to party hard at choderunner tailgates, only you barely own one piece of utsa gear......

yet I (thankfully) learned nothing new about utsa.

great job.

i like females, it's my cross to bear. the other stuff :lmao

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:41 AM

I would assume "multi million dollar corporation" is discussing gross revenue, or general capital, not profits. Many "multi-million dollar corporations" lose money (see current financial crises full of multi-BILLION dollar corporations losing money).

I'd say TLF considers himself mid to upper middle class, or possibly lower echelon upper class (from the little I've seen him write about himself). Rich is very subjective though.

i already appologized for bringing this up in the first place

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:43 AM

He smashes fertile women that like to party until 4AM. We've all done it. I don't know how much I can fault him unless he's setting up franchise families.

4 fertile women and i'm NOT setting up anything

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:45 AM

wait a sec......

is part of that reppin the idiots that hang out with you while they crank call the library?

tlfan/j.j./davey cockett.......u'r an idiot

i didn't call anyone or post anyone's info so that has nothing to do with anything i'm doing on here

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:47 AM

since i've been criticized for NOT talking sports when i only reply to others statements, let me say that today is GAMEDAY!!!

:danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub
:danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub
:danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub :danceclub

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:49 AM

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 09:50 AM

southland conference showdown #1 A&M CC travels to the bridcage for a HUGE conference game. tip off is at 7pm.

http://www.goutsa.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13100&ATCLID=3672076
UTSA Roadrunners (15-8, 6-4 SLC) vs. Texas A&M-Corpus Christi Islanders (14-11, 8-2 SLC)
Wednesday, Feb. 18 • 7 p.m.
Convocation Center (4,080) • San Antonio, Texas

Series History: Texas A&M-Corpus Christi leads, 7-2
Last Meeting: Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, 80-66 (Jan. 24, 2009)

SAN ANTONIO — Winners of four of the last six games, UTSA (15-8, 6-4 SLC) will host Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (14-11, 8-2 SLC) in a key Southland Conference matchup on Wednesday, Feb. 18. Tip is set for 7 p.m. at the Convocation Center.

Tuning In: Time Warner Cable will televise the game live in San Antonio on channel 50. Jason Minnix (play-by-play) and Kevin Brock (expert analysis) will call the action. The game will air live in the San Antonio area on 92.5 FM The Outlaw beginning with the pregame show at 6:45 p.m. Andy Everett has the call. Free live audio will be available online at goUTSA.com, which is provided courtesy of Yahoo! Sports. Live stats and video (Rowdy Zone subscription required) will be available at goUTSA.com.

Fast Break Points:
• This will be the 10th meeting between UTSA and Texas A&M-Corpus Christi
• The Islanders lead the series, 7-2, but UTSA won the last meeting in San Antonio, 65-51, on March 1, 2008
• UTSA is 9-2 at the Convocation Center this season
• The Roadrunners have won four of their last six and 12 of their last 16 games
• This will be UTSA’s eighth television appearance of the season (4-3 record)
• UTSA is 9-0 when holding opponents to under 70 points and 13-2 when limiting its opponents to below 50-percent shooting from the field
• With 15 victories, the Roadrunners have surpassed last season’s win total of 13
• UTSA established a school record with nine non-conference wins this season
• The Roadrunners have drained six or more 3-pointers in 20 games and they lead the SLC and rank eighth in the NCAA in threes per game (9.0)
• UTSA has made at least one 3-pointer in all 82 games under third-year head coach Brooks Thompson, including five or more treys 56 times
• The Roadrunners are posting an SLC-best 10.2 steals (4th/NCAA) and forcing 19.6 turnovers per contest
• UTSA leads the league and ranks ninth nationally in turnover margin (+4.9)
• Sophomore guard Devin Gibson leads the NCAA in steals per game (3.5)

UTSA/Texas A&M-Corpus Christi Series History: The Islanders lead the all-time series, 7-2, and won the first meeting this season, 80-66, on Jan. 24 in Corpus Christi. UTSA won the first-ever matchup, 95-80, on Nov. 27, 1999, and the last meeting in San Antonio, 65-51, on March 1, 2008, both at the Convocation Center. The series is tied at 2-2 in the Bird Cage.

Last Meeting: Senior Travis Gabbidon topped 20 points for the third consecutive game with a game-high 25, but Texas A&M-Corpus Christi used balanced scoring in an 80-66 victory over UTSA on Saturday afternoon at Dugan Wellness Center. The game was played at the Islanders’ new on-campus recreational sports facility due to the American Bank Center being booked with a circus all weekend. UTSA shot just 33.3 percent (23-for-69) from the floor, including 5-of-29 (17.2 percent) from downtown, and was outrebounded 45-30. Gabbidon added nine rebounds in nearly posting his third consecutive double-double, and the Phoenix native has tallied 71 points in the last three games.(23.7 pg). Sophomore Devin Gibson pitched in with eight points and six thefts. Justin Reynolds led the Islanders with 15 points, while Filip Toncinic, Kevin Palmer and Shamar Coombs added 13 apiece. AMCC shot 57.4 percent (31-for-54) from the field and held a 49-31 advantage in the paint.

Scouting Texas A&M-Corpus Christi: The Islanders fell to 14-11 overall and 8-2 in the league with a 75-73 home loss to Sam Houston State on Saturday. Junior transfer Kevin Palmer leads the team in scoring at 16.9 points per game, while sophomore Demond Watt is the top rebounder (6.2 rpg). Head coach Perry Clark is 23-31 in his second season at the helm.

Last Time Out: Senior Travis Gabbidon led three Roadrunners in double figures with 18 points, but Marquez Haynes poured in a game-high 27, including the game-winning basket with 4.4 seconds to play, to lead UT Arlington to an 84-82 victory over UTSA last Saturday at Texas Hall. Trailing, 82-80, with the shot clock turned off, Gabbidon was fouled on a shot attempt and made both free throws to knot the score with 10 seconds remaining. Ro’ger Guignard took the inbound pass and found Haynes on the right wing and the Irving native drained a 17-foot jumper with 4.4 ticks left to give the Mavericks a two-point lead. Sophomore Devin Gibson, who scored 10 in his first game back since Jan. 24, dribbled the length of the floor but his off-balance desperation shot from near the 3-point line rimmed out as time expired. Gabbidon was 9-for-13 from the free throw line in leading UTSA in scoring for the 11th time this season and he added a team-high seven rebounds and three steals. Junior Morris Smith IV drained four 3-pointers en route to 16 points, his sixth straight game in double figures. Gibson was 4-of-6 from the floor and added six boards and four assists, while junior Omar Johnson dropped in nine points, six rebounds, five dimes and a pair of thefts.

Home Court Advantage: UTSA totes an all-time record of 250-112 (.691 winning percentage) in the Convocation Center. The Roadrunners are 9-2 at home this season, with the only two losses in double overtime by a combined six points, and have won 11 of their past 15 at the facility dating back to last February.

Non-Conference Success: UTSA picked up its ninth non-conference victory of the regular season on Jan. 21 against Texas-Pan American, breaking the school record of eight set in 1990-91. The Roadrunners have recorded six wins against Division I teams — Rice, UMKC, Georgia State, SMU, Colgate, Texas-Pan American — which is the most out of league play since the 1989-90 team also won six. The 1990-91 squad won a school-record eight. Three of this year’s non-conference DI victories came on the road, the most since UTSA joined a conference (Trans America Athletic) in 1986-87.

A Good Start: At 10-5, UTSA registered its best 15-game start since the 2001-02 team also began with a 10-5 mark. Five teams have started 10-5, which rank second only to 11-4 starts in 1989-90 and 1990-91. Now with 15 victories, UTSA already has surpassed last season’s win total of 13 and still has seven regular season contests remaining on the schedule. Additionally, with a 6-3 start to conference play, the Roadrunners are off to their best nine-game start since the 2004-05 team began 7-2, which also is the last team to go 7-3 through the first 10 league games and record 15 or more wins (15-13).

Let’s Go Streaking: UTSA’s seven-game winning streak that began with a 76-72 win at UMKC on Dec. 22 and continued through a 62-55 victory at Nicholls on Jan. 14 is tied with Sam Houston State’s streak from Jan. 17-Feb. 7 for the longest in the Southland Conference this season. It also is the best at UTSA since the 2003-04 squad also won seven straight from Feb. 25-March 12. The Roadrunners now have won 11 of their last 14 contests, with two of those losses by a combined six points in double overtime (Jan. 17 vs. UT Arlington, Feb. 4 vs. Sam Houston State).

Senior Snags Another SLC Honor: Senior Travis Gabbidon was named Southland Conference Player of the Week on Jan. 26, his second honor in four weeks. The Phoenix, Ariz., native averaged 24.5 points, 10.5 rebounds and four steals and shot 65.4 percent (17-of-26) from the field and 81.3 percent (13-of-16) from the free throw line in games against Texas-Pan American and Texas A&M-Corpus Christi. Gabbidon also collected the weekly award on Jan. 5 after posting 19.5 points and 5.5 rebounds in victories against SMU and Colgate.

Record-Setting Night: UTSA set six school records in the 136-68 victory against East Central on Nov. 22, as the Roadrunners improved to 24-4 all-time and 3-0 under third-year head coach Brooks Thompson in home openers. Following is a list of the broken records:

Points: 136 [132, vs. Texas State (11/24/90)]
Winning Margin: 68 [58, vs. Georgia State (2/10/90)]
Field Goal Attempts: 97 [91, vs. Georgia State (1/22/87)]
Rebounds: 65 [64, vs. Jarvis Christian (11/29/86)]
3-Pointers: 17 [17, vs. Stephen F. Austin (1/18/97)]
3-Point Field Goal Attempts: 43 [37. vs. Northwestern State (1/19/08)]

Additionally, UTSA set Southland Conference season highs for points, margin of victory, field goals (51), field goal attempts, 3-point field goals, 3-point field goal attempts and rebounds in that contest.

Keys To Success: UTSA has discovered several keys to success this season. The Roadrunners are 13-2 when holding their opponents to under 50-percent shooting from the floor (4-0 under 40 percent), as opposed to a 2-6 record when foes shoot above 50 percent. UTSA also is 10-1 when it outrebounds opponents, with the only loss a 74-72 decision at Texas-Pan American in a game that the Roadrunners held a slim 29-28 advantage on the glass. UTSA also is 12-2 when leading at the half and a perfect 9-0 when holding opponents to under 70 points.

Creating Havoc: The Roadrunners are forcing their opponents into an average of 19.6 turnovers per game this season. Nine opponents have committed 20 or more, led by a season-high 34 from East Central on Nov. 22. A large reason for UTSA’s success in creating opponent miscues is the fact that the team is coming up with a league-best 10.2 steals per contest (4th/NCAA). Led by 2007-08 NCAA steals champion Devin Gibson, a sophomore who leads the nation with 3.5 thefts per game, all 13 Roadrunners have teamed up to record 234 steals this year. That number includes 131 in 10 home games (11.9 spg), highlighted by a Brooks Thompson era best of 20 against East Central.

Taking Care Of The Rock: UTSA has been effective in taking care of the basketball this season. The Roadrunners are averaging 14.7 turnovers per game and boast the top turnover margin (+4.9) in the Southland Conference (9th/NCAA). UTSA, which boasts a 14-5 record when forcing more turnovers than it commits, has topped 20 turnovers in a game just three times this season but still forced more by two of those opponents in victories against Texas Wesleyan and Texas-Pan American. The season-low of seven came in the 76-72 win at UMKC on Dec. 22 and the Roadrunners committed just eight in the 88-79 victory over Central Arkansas on Feb. 11.

Hitting The Trifecta: The Roadrunners have been productive from beyond the 3-point line this season. Even with the arc moved one foot further from the basket, UTSA has shown it still can fill it up from downtown. Led by senior Joey Shank (51) and juniors Morris Smith IV (48) and Omar Johnson (43), the Roadrunners have drained 208 threes for a conference-leading 9.0 per-game average (8th/NCAA), as 10 different Roadrunners have contributed from behind the arc this season. UTSA, which surpassed last season’s total of 191 treys in the Central Arkansas win, has made at least one 3-pointer in all 82 games under third-year head coach Brooks Thompson, including five or more 57 times and six or more in 20 games this season. UTSA had made at least one three in 442 consecutive contests dating back to Jan. 5, 1994 (vs. Texas).

Balanced Attack: Led by senior Travis Gabbidon (13.7), junior Omar Johnson (13.6) and sophomore Devin Gibson (11.1), UTSA has displayed a balanced scoring attack this season. Six additional Roadrunners are averaging at least four points per contest: senior Joey Shank (8.7) and juniors Morris Smith IV (9.9), Josh Bonney (6.7), Demarco Stepter (6.1), Chris Allen (5.3) and Terry Fields (4.1).

Success At The Line: A pair of Roadrunners have broken the school record for free throw percentage in a game this season. Senior Travis Gabbidon drained 10-of-10 from the line in the Colgate victory on Jan. 2 to eclipse the previous standard (minimum of 10 attempts required) of 92 percent (12-13) set by Leon Watson against Texas College on Nov. 22, 1998. In the Central Arkansas win on Feb. 11, junior Omar Johnson matched Gabbidon’s effort with a 10-for-10 performance from the charity stripe to help the Roadrunners fire at a season-high 87.5-percent (21-24) clip. As a team, UTSA is shooting 68.2 percent (360-528) from the line, a considerable improvement over last season’s 65.8 percent (424-644) mark, and stands at 68.2 percent (161-236) in SLC games.

Double-Double Tracker: UTSA has registered 10 double-doubles this year, including a team-best four by senior Travis Gabbidon.

Demarco Stepter, East Central (Nov. 22): 12 points, 11 rebounds
Devin Gibson, Texas-Pan American (Dec. 18): 16 points, 10 assists
Demarco Stepter, UMKC (Dec. 22) : 15 points, 11 rebounds
Demarco Stepter, SMU (Dec. 29): 10 points, 10 rebounds
Josh Bonney, Nicholls (Jan. 14): 15 points, 13 rebounds
Richie Frohlich, UT Arlington (Jan. 17): 14 points, 10 rebounds
Travis Gabbidon, UT Arlington (Jan. 17): 23 points, 10 rebounds
Travis Gabbidon, UT Arlington (Jan. 24): 23 points, 12 rebounds
Travis Gabbidon, Texas State (Jan. 28): 18 points, 10 rebounds
Travis Gabbidon, Southeastern Louisiana (Feb. 7): 11 points, 12 rebounds

Gibson Up For Cousy Award: Sophomore Devin Gibson, the 2007-08 Southland Conference Freshman of the Year, has been named a preseason nominee for the Bob Cousy Award, given annually to the nation’s top point guard. The Cy-Falls High product is one of three SLC players (Eric Bell, Stephen F. Austin; Kenny Dawkins, Lamar) and one of 46 nationally now on the watch list. In addition, Gibson also has been named preseason first-team all-conference and a CollegeHoops.net Preseason Mid-Major All-American. The 2007-08 NCAA steals leader (3.3 spg), he is averaging 11.1 points, 3.4 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 3.7 steals (1st/NCAA) per game this season. Gibson missed five games from Jan. 28-Feb. 11 due to a back injury.

Moving On Up: Sophomore Devin Gibson is making his way up a pair of UTSA career charts. The Houston native currently has 156 steals in 46 career games (3.4 spg), which is sixth on the school’s all-time chart and only four behind Keith Horne (160) for fifth place. No Roadrunner has recorded more thefts than Gibson in less than two full seasons. He also has tallied 595 points (12.9 ppg), ranking him 38th, is eighth in free throw percentage (.700) and stands ninth with 224 free throws. He also is on pace to appear on the school’s top-10 career list for assists (207, 10th=214) and the top 50 chart for rebounds (180, 50th=193).

Welcome Back: Senior Travis Gabbidon and junior Omar Johnson both were plagued with injuries last season, but have emerged as two of the team’s top scorers this year. Gabbidon, a Phoenix native and JUCO All-American at College of Southern Idaho, was UTSA’s leading scorer (13.9) and rebounder (5.8) until he went down with a season-ending injury at Lamar on Jan. 12. That happened one game after he scored 31 — the program’s first 30-point outing since 2003-04 — and grabbed nine boards against Texas-Pan American. Gabbidon is averaging 13.7 points (T-11th/SLC) and 6.7 rebounds (T-8th/SLC) per game this season, including 13.7 points (13th/SLC) and 8.3 boards (4th/SLC) in conference play. Johnson, a Philadelphia native and JUCO All-American at Barton County, missed all of last season with a stress reaction, but has made an immediate impact in his first 22 contests (missed Dec. 18 UTPA game with concussion). He ranks second on the team in scoring at 13.6 points per game (T-13th/SLC) behind 42.2-percent shooting from beyond the 3-point line and has dished out a team-best 101 assists (4.6 avg; 3rd/SLC).

Model of Consistency: Senior Travis Gabbidon has been one of UTSA’s most consistent players in his two-year career. In his 37 games with the Roadrunners, the Phoenix native has reached double figures in scoring 30 times, including a career-best 31 against Texas-Pan American last year and a season-high 25 against Texas A&M-Corpus Christi. He also has grabbed five or more rebounds 24 times, including a career high of 14 against Texas Wesleyan in 2007 and a season-high 12 versus Texas-Pan American on Jan. 21 and Southeastern Louisiana on Feb. 7. His 234 career rebounds stand 44th (21st among players with two seasons or less) on UTSA’s career list. Gabbidon has been named Southland Conference Player of the Week twice this year (Jan. 5/Jan. 26).

Pinpoint Accuracy: Junior guard Omar Johnson has displayed pinpoint accuracy from beyond the 3-point line in his first season with the Roadrunners. The Philadelphia native had made 43-of-102 from behind the arc for 42.2 percent, which ranks fourth in the Southland Conference. Over the last three contests, Johnson has connected on 10-of-21 treys, or 47.6 percent.

Smith Finds His Stroke: Junior guard Morris Smith IV has found shooting stroke from downtown over the past three weeks. The St. Louis native drained seven 3-pointers in the 67-66 win at Lamar on Jan. 31 and has made 18 trifectas while averaging 17.6 points per game in the last five contests. Earlier this season, he enjoyed a seven-game stretch from Dec. 18-Jan. 10 in which he connected 19 times from behind the arc, including four long balls in the SMU win on Dec. 29.

No Shank Shots: Senior Joey Shank has been a consistent threat from behind the arc in his 51 games with the Roadrunners. Last year, the Folsom, Calif., native drained 67 threes, the sixth-best season in school history, and made three or more in a game 12 times. He put his name next to the program’s single-game record with eight treys in a win over Northwestern State last January and he nearly matched that effort with seven against Rice on Dec. 4 of this season, tallying a career-best 26 points in both contests. Shank, who has connected from downtown 51 times this year, is ninth on UTSA’s career chart with 118 threes (4th among two-year players). Additionally, his 36.5 career 3-point field goal percentage stands fifth in the school record book. This year, Shank is eighth in the Southland Conference in 3-pointers made per game (2.2).

Wiping The Glass: The junior duo of Josh Bonney and Demarco Stepter has made an immediate impact on the glass this season. Bonney, a native of White Castle, La., posted his first double-double in a UTSA uniform with 15 points and a season-high 13 rebounds in the 62-55 win at Nicholls and is averaging 4.7 boards per contest. He is averaging 8.3 points and 5.4 boards (19th) in SLC games. Stepter, who hails from Memphis, Tenn., ranks second on the team with a 6.0 rebounding average (16th/SLC). He is one of two Roadrunners and 13 league players with three or more double-doubles this season. He tallied 12 points and 11 rebounds against East Central, a season-high 15 points to go along with 11 boards against UMKC and 10 and 10 at SMU. He nearly posted his fourth with 10 points and nine rebounds in the double-overtime loss to Sam Houston State.

On The Tube: UTSA has at least eight regular season games scheduled for television this season. The Roadrunners already have played seven contests on the tube, dropping their first two at Oklahoma State (Cowboy Sports Network) and Iowa (Mediacom Connections) before winning four of the past five at UMKC (Metro Sports), at SMU (Time Warner Cable/Metro Sports), against Texas State (Time Warner Cable) and at Southeastern Louisiana (Southland TV). The Roadrunners dropped am 84-82 decision at UT Arlington on Southland TV on Feb. 14 and will face Texas A&M-Corpus Christi on Time Warner Cable (Feb. 18).

Up Next: UTSA will travel to Huntsville to face Sam Houston State on Saturday, Feb. 21. Tip is set for 7 p.m. at Johnson Coliseum.

j-6

02-18-2009, 09:56 AM

I heard that your AD is up here at the DFW airport doing interviews.

fyatuk

02-18-2009, 10:06 AM

i already appologized for bringing this up in the first place

Just trying to explain what Blake appears to believe is a contradiction.

Blake

02-18-2009, 10:29 AM

He smashes fertile women that like to party until 4AM. We've all done it. I don't know how much I can fault him unless he's setting up franchise families.

I never said I faulted him for that. I could care less if he hangs out with 4 stripper moms or the 4 utsa freaks.

My point was that he was babbling on and on about himself when none of us really could give a flip instead of babbling on about his school which none of us could give a flip about either.

"I'm a big sports fan.....look at me, I'm like Davey Crockett at the Alamo......I live in von Ormy near the battlefields.....I own a big company......I'm here to support my school..........yada yada yada"

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 11:22 AM

I heard that your AD is up here at the DFW airport doing interviews.

only because you brought it up...we talked with some staff this morning, they have a few people up there "doing some stuff." it's heating up...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/local_colleges/UTSA_turns_coach_hunt_toward_Dallas.html
By David Flores - Express-News The search for UTSA's first football coach has moved north.

With their self-imposed deadline less than two weeks away, UTSA athletic director Lynn Hickey and her staff started Tuesday the first of two days of interviews in Dallas with six of seven finalists for the job.

While there were indications former Miami head coach Larry Coker spoke with UTSA officials Tuesday, Mary Hardin-Baylor head coach Pete Fredenburg, who started the Crusaders' program in 1997, confirmed he had been interviewed.

“It was good,” Fredenburg, 61, said Tuesday night. “We just talked. It was pleasant and I enjoyed it. I'm very happy at Mary Hardin-Baylor, but any coach would have to be interested in the UTSA job. I just think that there's a great opportunity to develop a first-class program in a great city.”

Coker, 60, could not be reached for comment Tuesday night.

Earlier in the day, a woman answering the phone at his home in Fort Myers, Fla., said he wasn't home and wasn't expected until Tuesday night.

When asked if Coker was in Dallas interviewing for the UTSA job, the woman said, “I'm not at liberty to comment about that.”

A source at UTSA said Coker is a finalist and would be interviewed in Dallas.

Duke defensive coordinator Mike MacIntyre, who served as an assistant coach with the Dallas Cowboys from 2003-06, is one of the candidates expected to be interviewed today. MacIntyre, 43, was on Bill Parcells' staff with the Cowboys and is highly regarded in the UTSA athletic department, the source said.

Longtime NFL assistant coach Bill Bradley, who lives in Spring Branch and has strong ties to Hickey and UTSA president Ricardo Romo, said Hickey has told him he would be interviewed in San Antonio later this week or early next week.

The identities of the three other finalists could not be confirmed. Hickey did not return a message left on her cell phone Tuesday afternoon, and her voice mailbox was full later.

Hickey and Romo have said they want to hire a coach by March 1. The Roadrunners kick off their first season in 2011 as an independent in the Football Championship Subdivision, formerly Division I-AA.

Fredenburg, a former assistant coach at Baylor, LSU and Louisiana Tech, is 99-29 in 11 seasons at Mary Hardin-Baylor and has led the Crusaders to the Division III playoffs seven times. Mary Hardin-Baylor lost in the 2004 title game.

Fredenburg coached 13 of his 14 seasons at Baylor under Grant Teaff, who along with former Texas A&M coach R.C. Slocum is serving as a consultant in UTSA's coach search. He was also on New Braunfels Canyon's first staff in 1971, before moving to New Braunfels High in 1972.

“San Antonio is a great city to recruit to and there is great talent regionally,” Fredenburg said. “If the city will embrace this project, it will be an incredible venture.”

Coker, who guided Miami to the 2001 BCS national championship, confirmed two weeks ago that he had sent his résumé to Hickey and spoken with her by phone.

Coker led the Hurricanes to a national title in his first season as head coach and went 60-15 before getting fired in 2006. Miami won three Big East titles in six seasons under Coker, who has been a college football analyst for ESPN the past two years.

ATRAIN

02-18-2009, 12:20 PM

:rolleyes

I'm not sure what is in the UTSA water. I usually like lebomb as a poster and now he's going to pull this?

I've stayed out of it but this is getting beyond ridiculous now. UTSA fanbase is way out of line. They have such an inferiority complex that it's impossible for any type of civil conversation between UTSA fanbase and the outside world. It's just not going to happen.

And really, Kori was being nice about that 95% number. I think it's closer to 99%. A retarded amoeba could get accepted into UTSA with their current admissions policy. Has anyone heard of someone getting rejected by UTSA? I've never heard of that and I know someone who was turned down by SAC. UTSA is basically a giant community college. In fact, I never knew there was anyone proud of its sports programs until I saw a couple pop up on SpursTalk.

So yeah, if UTSA fan wants to fight fire with fire, let's go. I've sat idly long enough. You gonna call out the wife, you better get ready to defend that embarrassment of a so-called university that further makes San Antonio look like an uneducated cow town. As a neutral observer who doesn't give a fvck about any college, UTSA is a joke and the UTSA fanbase on SpursTalk is somehow turning into an even bigger joke.

Either grow the F up, stop talking UTSA sports or settle down and try to act like fans of a school that has an actual admissions process. I give UT fans a lot of ish but I've never seen them act like a bunch of sissies like the UTSA fanbase following the birth of their football team.

F UTSA and F the UTSA fanbase if they can't get their mind right.

I just had to bump this again, damn UTSA fans got worked!!

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:46 PM

Blake

02-18-2009, 12:47 PM

I just had to bump this again, damn UTSA fans got worked!!

and they keep coming back for more :lol

greatness.

ATRAIN

02-18-2009, 01:03 PM

and they keep coming back for more :lol

greatness.

It is odd to me. I have never seen this from a school that isnt a "major school". I graduated from a school that had a baseball and volleyball team, but I wasnt delusional. I knew they werent a major school so if they got a football team I would make fun of them myself. Im sorry but any school that has over 90% admissions is a joke. I know some people that graduated and got into UTSA and all that tells me is that they take ANYONE. These guys wonder why they got trolled so hard and because of that they got trolled harder and its all come to this. Some of them say they will not stop supporting their school and im sure the people that laugh at them will not stop making fun of them (myself included). Anyways carry on, its been funny.

tonylongoriafan

02-18-2009, 01:07 PM

:lol

somehow I doubt this is the real bleed.....

either lebomb, roadies or tony........I think it's 50-50 between tony or lebomb.........my coin says tlfan.....

:lol too much.

not me

ATRAIN

02-18-2009, 01:22 PM

:lol

somehow I doubt this is the real bleed.....

either lebomb, roadies or tony........I think it's 50-50 between tony or lebomb.........my coin says tlfan.....

:lol too much.

Actually I think it is him. I know lebomb and tlfan are usually not dumb ass posters (well they have thier moments when it comes to UTSA). Roadies and bleed were nothing but garbage from the moment they signed on.

lebomb

02-18-2009, 02:01 PM

:rolleyes

I'm not sure what is in the UTSA water. I usually like lebomb as a poster and now he's going to pull this?

I've stayed out of it but this is getting beyond ridiculous now. UTSA fanbase is way out of line. They have such an inferiority complex that it's impossible for any type of civil conversation between UTSA fanbase and the outside world. It's just not going to happen.

And really, Kori was being nice about that 95% number. I think it's closer to 99%. A retarded amoeba could get accepted into UTSA with their current admissions policy. Has anyone heard of someone getting rejected by UTSA? I've never heard of that and I know someone who was turned down by SAC. UTSA is basically a giant community college. In fact, I never knew there was anyone proud of its sports programs until I saw a couple pop up on SpursTalk.

So yeah, if UTSA fan wants to fight fire with fire, let's go. I've sat idly long enough. You gonna call out the wife, you better get ready to defend that embarrassment of a so-called university that further makes San Antonio look like an uneducated cow town. As a neutral observer who doesn't give a fvck about any college, UTSA is a joke and the UTSA fanbase on SpursTalk is somehow turning into an even bigger joke.

Either grow the F up, stop talking UTSA sports or settle down and try to act like fans of a school that has an actual admissions process. I give UT fans a lot of ish but I've never seen them act like a bunch of sissies like the UTSA fanbase following the birth of their football team.

F UTSA and F the UTSA fanbase if they can't get their mind right.

Meh............... :rolleyes I was drunk........so what? I get a lil aggressive after a few.

:wakeup

ATRAIN

02-18-2009, 02:14 PM

Meh............... :rolleyes I was drunk........so what? I get a lil aggressive after a few.

:wakeup

That was your who raped that girl over the phone wasnt it?

lebomb

02-18-2009, 02:20 PM

That was your who raped that girl over the phone wasnt it?

No........... Im happily :married:

Thanks for the support though :p:

Blake

02-18-2009, 02:27 PM

Actually I think it is him.

doubtful

Yakov Smirnoff

02-18-2009, 02:42 PM

Meh............... :rolleyes I was drunk........so what? I get a lil aggressive after a few.

:wakeup

In Soviet Russia, I do same. Yakov like vodka and then hit bitch. You do same no?

lebomb

02-18-2009, 02:44 PM

I know lebomb and tlfan are usually not dumb ass posters (well they have thier moments when it comes to UTSA).

I did learn that you cant kick someones ass through the internet after a few :jekka

lebomb

02-18-2009, 02:45 PM

In Soviet Russia, I do same. Yakov like vodka and then hit bitch. You do same no?

Well, I tried to hit a few bitches through the net after some vodka.......but, alas........it didnt work. :toast

IronMexican

02-18-2009, 03:32 PM

Texas Tech's 5 p.m. deadline Tuesday given to football coach Mike Leach to sign its latest contract extension offer came and went with still no resolution.

"Coach Leach has declined our $12.7 million contract," Tech athletic director Gerald Myers said in a statement Tuesday. "We will enter the decision-making process and should have some announcements by next week. Our decisions will be based on the best interest of Texas Tech and all of its supporters."

The Texas Tech Board of Regents, however, announced Tuesday a "special called teleconference meeting" from 2 to 3 p.m. Friday, when in executive session, they will have a "discussion and consideration of matters ... including but not limited to the position of the football head coach."

In a phone interview Tuesday evening, Leach was asked if he was worried about being fired.

"Not really," Leach said. "We have an agreement both parties signed. We agreed to do two more years, and I don't see how that could be unsatisfactory to anybody. Why anybody would have a problem with two years left on my contract, I don't know."

He admitted disappointment with the events that have led to this point.

"Yeah, me and a lot of people are," Leach said.

About 40 people showed up at a rally on Leach's behalf just before noon Tuesday at the school's football offices in Lubbock to show their support. Leach, who returned to Lubbock late Monday after attending a rugby match in Wales on Saturday and the Daytona 500 on Sunday, briefly addressed the crowd, many of whom were students holding signs.

Tech chancellor Kent Hance said last week that if Leach didn't sign before the Tech-imposed deadline, then the coach would continue to operate under his contract that runs through 2010.

He is due to be paid $2.65 million next season and $2.35 million in 2010, which includes an $800,000 contract completion bonus at the end of 2009 and another completion bonus of $200,000 at the end of 2010.

Tech has the right to terminate Leach's current contract "without cause at any time and for any reason." Tech would, however, then have to pay Leach "liquidated damages" in an amount equal to 40 percent of the remaining guaranteed compensation and benefits. Since Leach is owed a guaranteed $4 million left on his contract, Tech could terminate him without cause and owe him $1.6 million.

Hance, who was in Austin on Tuesday and could not be reached for comment, has said that Tech possibly could make another run at extending Leach's contract after next season.

Tech officials and Leach's International Marketing Group agents, Gary O'Hagan and Matt Baldwin, have agreed in principle on compensation terms of $12.7 million over five years. However, negotiations have unraveled since Tech added four provisions Jan. 9.

The four points involve the guaranteed termination compensation Leach would receive if fired, the buyout amount he would pay if he left early, a penalty for interviewing for another job without permission and who controls Leach's personal property rights.

After 10 months of fruitless negotiations, Leach effectively enters the realm of a lame duck coach with a cloud of uncertainty hanging over his head.

Tech's Junior Day, when many of the state's top high school junior football recruits will be on campus, is a few weeks away. With Leach's future filled with insecurity, the Red Raiders' 2010 recruiting class could certainly take a hit.

All this comes after Leach led Tech to its best regular season in school history and an 11-2 record last year.

"If this doesn't come out favorably, which is mind-boggling because where did I fall short ... ," Leach said. "My only concern right now is coaching this team."

Blake

02-18-2009, 03:35 PM

Gerald Myers and the rest of the Board of Regents are flat out idiots.

Leach obviously wants to stay. Give him the friggin castle.

ATRAIN

02-18-2009, 03:36 PM

Gerald Myers and the rest of the Board of Regents are flat out idiots.

Leach obviously wants to stay. Give him the friggin castle.

LOL i hope he doesnt hahahah Sorry blake!!

Trainwreck2100

02-18-2009, 03:37 PM

I know i'm probably late, but what the fuck did you guys do to lose the college forum this time.

IronMexican

02-18-2009, 03:41 PM

TTech must be run by idiots if they are going to let Leach leave.

Blake

02-18-2009, 04:08 PM

TTech must be run by idiots if they are going to let Leach leave.

The Tech athletic department and booster club are run by a bunch of insecure, arrogant, tightwads that don't want Leach talking to anyone else and also think they can get someone as good as Leach if they let him walk

The only way I might think this would be even in the least bit plausible is if they knew for certain they could bring in Art Briles.....

but even so, they need to bust that f-ing piggy bank open, pay Leach what he wants and meet his contract demands in regards to opting out and interviewing with other schools.

stretch

02-18-2009, 05:30 PM

lol, tech

stretch

02-18-2009, 05:31 PM

in all seriousness, tech had a great year and have been a pretty decent team here lately. what is the issue between them and leach?

johngateswhiteley

02-18-2009, 05:31 PM

I know i'm probably late, but what the fuck did you guys do to lose the college forum this time.

i'm not entirely sure, other than it involved utsa fans.

johngateswhiteley

02-18-2009, 05:32 PM

BUT, it never would have gotten there if the anti-UTSA assholes hadn't gone overboard in their bitching. Escalation is always the fault of both parties.

thats no excuse for their behavior. sure it can escalate, but that doesn't mean utsa fan loses their mind b/c some posters were giving them shit. thats unbelievably immature.

stretch

02-18-2009, 05:39 PM

wow i didnt even realize until just now that the college forum is gone again. wtf

fuckin' A, UTSA fans. fuckin' A.

stretch

02-18-2009, 05:42 PM

thats no excuse for their behavior. sure it can escalate, but that doesn't mean utsa fan loses their mind b/c some posters were giving them shit. thats unbelievably immature.

agreed. there are lots of fans that give fans of other teams shit. lakers, spurs, and mavs fans all giving each other shit. jordan knobslobbers giving kobe knobslobbers fits. all teams giving the suns shit (because the suns are gay). its no big deal, nothing to get overly bent out of shape for, the way those UTSA fags were.

IronMexican

02-18-2009, 05:44 PM

wow i didnt even realize until just now that the college forum is gone again. wtf

fuckin' A, UTSA fans. fuckin' A.

They started talking shit to Kori.

mookie2001

02-18-2009, 07:19 PM

its funny that this is the most popular other sports thread of all time

pkbpkb81

02-18-2009, 08:57 PM

fyatuk

02-18-2009, 10:51 PM

thats no excuse for their behavior. sure it can escalate, but that doesn't mean utsa fan loses their mind b/c some posters were giving them shit. thats unbelievably immature.

Not an excuse, just saying the blame is shared. Those guys went overboard bashing the UTSA guys. It's funny in that basically they kept ragging on them for being immature, then get upset they do something immature.

I don't understand the point of spending like 10 pages of posts calling each other gay. Not like that's entertaining after the first 2 or 3 times.

CubanMustGo

02-18-2009, 11:16 PM

I don't understand why both sides won't just let it go.

Anti-UTSA fan: ha ha the dumb UTSA fucks got the gotdamned College Sports board killed again

UTSA fan: Well, it wasn't just us, we were provoked and nobody did shit about it

Anti-UTSA fan: WGAF? Nobody is as arrogant as UTSA fan.

UTSA fan: Well fuck you and do you want me to call your boss again

and so it goes. Just let it go, all of you, already. Move on. Please.

fyatuk

02-18-2009, 11:25 PM

THE KIDD

02-19-2009, 12:11 AM

New UTSA web site.http://utsasource.com (http://utsasource.com/) Great site to talk about UTSA sports.

johngateswhiteley

02-19-2009, 02:24 AM

Not an excuse, just saying the blame is shared. Those guys went overboard bashing the UTSA guys. It's funny in that basically they kept ragging on them for being immature, then get upset they do something immature.

I don't understand the point of spending like 10 pages of posts calling each other gay. Not like that's entertaining after the first 2 or 3 times.

sorry, i think this is on the utsa guy/s. everyone rags on everybody...deal with it.

redraiderinfiji

02-19-2009, 04:02 AM

sorry, i think this is on the utsa guy/s. everyone rags on everybody...deal with it.

CHEERS, +1

If ya cant handle it.......wipe your pussy and find a new forum

bleedo&B

02-19-2009, 07:50 AM

CHEERS, +1

If ya cant handle it.......wipe your pussy and find a new forum

That's the stupidity on why this continues. You jumped in like you've been a part of this Korea. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THE FAG 5, be my guest. Ohhh, my internet-smack talking feelings are hurt.....Get the fuck out of here. "You UTSA guys really crossed the line.......wa-wa-wa-wa"KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU START WHINING WORSE THAN A PREGNANT BITCH IN LABOR!FUCK YOU RED RAIDER IN KOREA!

redraiderinfiji

02-19-2009, 08:03 AM

New UTSA web site.http://utsasource.com (http://utsasource.com/) Great site to talk about UTSA sports.

here is your new forum.....use it

lebomb

02-19-2009, 08:20 AM

A lil birdie told me Jerry Jones (yes....the cowboys jerry jones) , USAA, Valero and AT&T are making donations to the football program.

:hat

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 08:35 AM

here is your new forum.....use it

Why? That'd just be yet another forum to check. Much simpler just to discuss UTSA sports here:p:

Though I do agree there's not enough interested people here to justify the individual game threads for basketball, etc.

A lil birdie told me Jerry Jones (yes....the cowboys jerry jones) , USAA, Valero and AT&T are making donations to the football program.

:hat

All those would make sense. JJ because a DI team makes a pro team less likely, and the rest because they are major players in the SA market and likely team sponsors anyway.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 08:38 AM

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 08:39 AM

Yep, I agree............JJ doesnt want another pro football team here......so he is going to try and make Utsa's football team look as attactive as possible.

Its actually really bright on his part.

No one can say JJ isn't a good businessman. Whether he's good for football is a bit debateable, but he's certainly a good businessman.

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 08:42 AM

A lil birdie told me Jerry Jones (yes....the cowboys jerry jones) , USAA, Valero and AT&T are making donations to the football program.

:hat

a BIG birdie told me JJ (of the cowboys, not me) is on the hook big time

Blake

02-19-2009, 08:43 AM

I don't understand the point of spending like 10 pages of posts calling each other gay. Not like that's entertaining after the first 2 or 3 times.

Actually it was pretty entertaining by about the 25th page

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 08:44 AM

here is your new forum.....use it

not until i get kicked out of here first :hat

Blake

02-19-2009, 08:47 AM

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 08:48 AM

A lil birdie told me Jerry Jones (yes....the cowboys jerry jones) , USAA, Valero and AT&T are making donations to the football program.

:hat

heard yesterday that Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells yesterday endorsed MacIntyre as the new UTSA head coach. but, who cares, let's not start another thread :p:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22665&SPID=1843&DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=1357983&Q_SEASON=2009
Courtesy: Duke Sports Information
Release: 01/02/2008
Mike MacIntyre joined the Blue Devil coaching staff in January of 2008 after spending one seasons with the New York Jets. He serves as Duke’s defensive coordinator.

MacIntyre served on Cutcliffe’s staff at Ole Miss from 1999-02, helping the Rebels to a four-year ledger of 29-19 with appearances in the Independence Bowl (1999 & 2002) and Music City Bowl (2000). MacIntyre coached the 1999 and 2000 seasons with the Ole Miss wide receivers before tutoring the defensive secondary in his final two years.

While mentoring the Mississippi wide receivers, MacIntyre coached two of the school’s top pass-catchers in Cory Peterson and Grant Heard. On the Rebel career charts, Peterson ranks sixth in catches (135) and fifth in yards (1,842) while Heard stands third in receptions (142), third in yards (2,029) and second in receiving touchdowns (16). In 2001 — MacIntyre’s first season with the Ole Miss defense — the Rebels led the SEC and ranked fifth nationally in pass defense, allowing just 161.3 yards per game.

MacIntyre served the 2007 season as an assistant coach with the NFL’s New York Jets, coaching the defensive backs. He spent four seasons (2003-06) as an assistant coach under Bill Parcells with the Dallas Cowboys. During his time with Dallas, the Cowboys posted three winning seasons and earned playoff berths in both 2003 and 2006.

While with the Cowboys, MacIntyre coached safety Roy Williams, who was the eighth overall selection in the 2002 NFL Draft following a standout collegiate career at Oklahoma. Williams was selected to the NFL Pro Bowl in all four years that MacIntyre was on the Dallas staff and is one of four safeties in Cowboys history to earn four Pro Bowl berths. MacIntyre also coached cornerback Terrence Newman, who was an NFL All-Rookie choice in 2003 and an alternate for the Pro Bowl one season later.

MacIntyre got his start in coaching as a graduate assistant at Georgia (1990-91) and then spent the 1992 season as the defensive coordinator at Davidson College.

Before joining Cutcliffe at Ole Miss, MacIntyre coached the defensive backs at Temple in 1997-98. Prior to his stint with the Owls, he was at Tennessee-Martin, where he served as co-defensive coordinator from 1993-95 and defensive coordinator in 1996. MacIntyre added recruiting coordinator duties in 1994 and became the assistant head coach in 1995.

A 1989 graduate of Georgia Tech with a bachelor’s degree in business management, MacIntyre played two seasons (1987-88) at free safety and punt returner for the Yellow Jackets under head coach Bobby Ross. Prior to attending Georgia Tech, MacIntyre played two years at Vanderbilt (1984-85) under his father, George, who served as the head coach of the Commodores from 1979-85. He went on to earn a master’s degree in education with an emphasis on sports management from Georgia in 1991.

Born March 14, 1965, in Miami, Fla., MacIntyre and his wife, Trisha, have three children, Jennifer, Jay Michael and Jonston.

Blake

02-19-2009, 08:50 AM

That's the stupidity on why this continues. You jumped in like you've been a part of this Korea. IF YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THE FAG 5, be my guest. Ohhh, my internet-smack talking feelings are hurt.....Get the fuck out of here. "You UTSA guys really crossed the line.......wa-wa-wa-wa"KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU START WHINING WORSE THAN A PREGNANT BITCH IN LABOR!FUCK YOU RED RAIDER IN KOREA!

the facts are you got your internet-smack talking feelings hurt and went wa-wa-wa-wa to Kori right after you called and tried to harass a poster at his place of employment.

j-6

02-19-2009, 08:53 AM

MacIntyre is the kind of guy you Utsa fans should want, not some retread like Larry Coker.

Blake

02-19-2009, 08:56 AM

All those would make sense. JJ because a DI team makes a pro team less likely, and the rest because they are major players in the SA market and likely team sponsors anyway.

Yep, I agree............JJ doesnt want another pro football team here......so he is going to try and make Utsa's football team look as attactive as possible.

Its actually really bright on his part.

heard yesterday that Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells yesterday endorsed MacIntyre as the new UTSA head coach. but, who cares, let's not start another thread :p:

:lmao:lmao:lmao

you guys are so far beyond clueless it is friggin hilarious.

ATRAIN

02-19-2009, 09:11 AM

Its thursday morning at 8:11 am and UTSA/UTSA football is still a joke.

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 09:19 AM

MacIntyre is the kind of guy you Utsa fans should want, not some retread like Larry Coker.

maybe...he's not as big a name as coker, but he could definitely be the type of guy that comes here 10-15 years and gets this thing going. coker would probably give us half those years.

if this guy interviews like a mofo, which younger coaches typically do, i can definitely see him as the guy. BUT i've said all along that the recruiting/energy/coaching x's&o's are just as important as the fundraising/charm/namebrand the new coach will need to build. maybe coker is a re-tread but macintyre has never been a head coach before...

...it's a double-edged sword.

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 09:21 AM

heard yesterday that Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells yesterday endorsed MacIntyre as the new UTSA head coach. but, who cares, let's not start another thread :p:

http://www.woai.com/media/news/a/8/6/a86e7bd1-ded4-4540-8879-bd0ef5301a7c/Story.jpg
http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/UTSA-zeroes-in-on-first-head-football-coach/S8RCi26GbkqUHUvgziT5jQ.cspx
As we reported first on NEWS 4 WOAI, Former Miami coach Larry Coker is among the finalists for the UTSA head coaching job.

Athletic director Lynn Hickey is interviewing finalists in Dallas this week and Coker has interviewed for the job.

But News 4 WOAI has also learned that the search may be focusing on Mike MacIntyre. He is the defensive coordinator at Duke, and sources say he is said to be a leading candidate now.

MacIntyre is a favorite of Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones, and Pat Summerall. He was the Cowboys defensive backs coach for four seasons under Parcells and has been very impressive in his early talks with UTSA.

Hickey is also meeting with former Baylor assistant and Texas Longhorn star Bill Bradley, and Mary Hardin Baylor's Pete Fredenburg. Hickey hopes to have a new coach by March 1.

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 09:24 AM

Its thursday morning at 8:11 am and UTSA/UTSA football is still a joke.

lol atrain...bring back u'r pole vaulter girl signature back

ATRAIN

02-19-2009, 09:27 AM

lol atrain...bring back u'r pole vaulter girl signature back

people complained that it was too big and were crying about it

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 09:33 AM

people complained that it was too big and were crying about it

u cannot let detractors of what u like, take away from what u enjoy...MAKE IT BIGGER, she's hot :toast

lebomb

02-19-2009, 09:35 AM

Its thursday morning at 8:11 am and UTSA football is still a work in progress.

FIXED!!! :toast

samikeyp

02-19-2009, 09:43 AM

MacIntyre is the kind of guy you Utsa fans should want, not some retread like Larry Coker.

Exactly. You want a young guy with tons of energy who can grow with the program.

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 09:47 AM

Exactly. You want a young guy with tons of energy who can grow with the program.

with ZERO head coach experience?

ATRAIN

02-19-2009, 09:47 AM

u cannot let detractors of what u like, take away from what u enjoy...MAKE IT BIGGER, she's hot :toast

DUDE your not lying..........I think I might need to revive it and if they dont like it tough right lol..

ATRAIN

02-19-2009, 09:47 AM

FIXED!!! :toast

lol thanks for that hahah

samikeyp

02-19-2009, 09:54 AM

with ZERO head coach experience?

Someone has to give him his first opportunity.

j-6

02-19-2009, 09:57 AM

with ZERO head coach experience?

How much experience did your patron saint Jim Leavitt have?

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 10:01 AM

someone has to give him his first opportunity.

how much experience did your patron saint jim leavitt have?

+1

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 10:46 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao

you guys are so far beyond clueless it is friggin hilarious.

Hey, it's not like I'm saying JJ is going to give a few million dollars or what-not. It would fit his MO to give a small to moderate donation, though.

That's certainly the only problem you could have with the list we were discussing, since the other ones sponsor just about everything athletic in SA.

Are your point of butting into our nice calm discussion?

lebomb

02-19-2009, 10:57 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao

you guys are so far beyond clueless it is friggin hilarious.

Ummmmmm.................. I guess I am clueless. Can you fill me in? :(

Dont worry, Im not drinking. :hat

Doug Collins

02-19-2009, 11:08 AM

DUDE your not lying..........I think I might need to revive it and if they dont like it tough right lol..

Bring it back man. Anyone who doesn't like looking at hot girls in signatures is a flaming homosexual...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Blake

02-19-2009, 11:16 AM

Are your point of butting into our nice calm discussion?

I'm not butting into anything. This isn't a utsa thread and I'm just saying that you are clueless.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 11:21 AM

I'm not butting into anything. This isn't a utsa thread and I'm just saying that you are clueless.

Of course you are. There's several different conversations going on in this thread, you don't have to comment on any of them. You're doing it to annoy people, but whatever floats your boat.

Love that derogatory attitude with no given reason :toast

Blake

02-19-2009, 11:22 AM

Ummmmmm.................. I guess I am clueless. Can you fill me in? :(

Sure.

JJ could care less about UTSA football and even if UTSA football suddenly became a D-1 powerhouse, it would have little to do with a decision to bring the NFL to San Antonio.

it is friggin hilarious that you think JJ is such a shrewd businessman that by donating money to get UTSA football rolling, that it is another piece of the puzzle to keep the NFL out of SA.

:lmao

Blake

02-19-2009, 11:29 AM

Of course you are. There's several different conversations going on in this thread, you don't have to comment on any of them.

No, I'm not. Commenting on your ignorance on a message board is not butting in. I don't have to but if I wasn't having fun watching utsa freaks implode after the slightest barb, I probably wouldn't.

You're doing it to annoy people, but whatever floats your boat.

pfft. If you're annoyed, that's on you, not me.

Love that derogatory attitude with no given reason :toast

I don't have a derogatory attitude.......just a few derogatory comments based on ignorant posts.

IronMexican

02-19-2009, 11:30 AM

Bring it back man. Anyone who doesn't like looking at hot girls in signatures is a flaming homosexual...not that there's anything wrong with that.

I have sigs turned off because ATRAIN's used to make pages take forever to load.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 11:33 AM

Sure.

JJ could care less about UTSA football and even if UTSA football suddenly became a D-1 powerhouse, it would have little to do with a decision to bring the NFL to San Antonio.

it is friggin hilarious that you think JJ is such a shrewd businessman that by donating money to get UTSA football rolling, that it is another piece of the puzzle to keep the NFL out of SA.

:lmao

Actually, having a D1 team would impact the feasibility of professional ball whether it's a powerhouse or not. SA is borderline (at best) on being able to support an NFL team, so anything that takes money away from a prospective pro team lessens the liklihood of a pro team coming here.

Not like it'd be the first time he'd done something like that. Have you compared the current lease for TC compared to the first one that JJ said didn't favor the Cowboys enough? The new lease is more pro-SA than the first. What happened in the time between the two leases?

Mostly, I think JJ would donate enough to get news coverage so he could proclaim that SA deserves the best football it can get, then remind people the Cowboys are returning to SA for TC.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 11:33 AM

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 11:37 AM

No, I'm not. Commenting on your ignorance on a message board is not butting in. I don't have to but if I wasn't having fun watching utsa freaks implode after the slightest barb, I probably wouldn't.

:lol

pfft. If you're annoyed, that's on you, not me.

I'm not annoyed. I find it funny you keep antongonizing people when it's led to the CSF being shut down twice already, with you being a major player in the continual escalation that led to the first one (at least, I missed the second explosion)

I don't have a derogatory attitude.......just a few derogatory comments based on ignorant posts.

Over the last several weeks, nearly all of the posts I've seen from you have been derogatory. That kind of consistency makes an attitude.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 11:38 AM

You honestly think he is donating without any ulterior motive?? :lmao

Just to point out, there's been no announced donation, so he isn't "donating." It's a potential donation until announced or received.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 11:47 AM

Just to point out, there's been no announced donation, so he isn't "donating." It's a potential donation until announced or received.

True......... so true.

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:06 PM

Actually, having a D1 team would impact the feasibility of professional ball whether it's a powerhouse or not. SA is borderline (at best) on being able to support an NFL team, so anything that takes money away from a prospective pro team lessens the liklihood of a pro team coming here.

wrong.

Not like it'd be the first time he'd done something like that. Have you compared the current lease for TC compared to the first one that JJ said didn't favor the Cowboys enough? The new lease is more pro-SA than the first. What happened in the time between the two leases?

SA realized that bending over for the Cowboys wasn't financially viable.

Mostly, I think JJ would donate enough to get news coverage so he could proclaim that SA deserves the best football it can get, then remind people the Cowboys are returning to SA for TC.

maybe, but he's not donating to keep the NFL out of SA.

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:08 PM

You honestly think he is donating without any ulterior motive?? :lmao

without any? I dont really know and neither do you.

What I do know is that he is not donating to keep the NFL out of SA.

OK......I guess. Seeing that he has NO ties to San Antonio what so ever. Why else would he even care???

Let's wait for the donation and let's see why he says he is donating.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 12:09 PM

maybe, but he's not donating to keep the NFL out of SA.

So by this, you are saying that JJ wouldnt mind SA having its own NFL team?

lebomb

02-19-2009, 12:10 PM

Let's wait for the donation and let's see why he says he is donating.

He would never admit it, even if he did have an ulterior motive of trying to keep the NFL out. :rolleyes

Doug Collins

02-19-2009, 12:11 PM

I have sigs turned off because ATRAIN's used to make pages take forever to load.

That's the thing, if someone doesn't like it they can just turn it off, no reason for him to get rid of it. I'm sure your sig doesnt help with load times either (not hating just saying) :toast

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:15 PM

I'm not annoyed. I find it funny you keep antongonizing people when it's led to the CSF being shut down twice already, with you being a major player in the continual escalation that led to the first one (at least, I missed the second explosion)

Well if you're not annoyed and nobody else is complaining about me being annoying then I guess Im not doing a good job at being annoying.

Wrong about me having anything to do with the CSF being shut down.

I had a lot of posts and didn't help, but I was far from being a "major player". :lol

Over the last several weeks, nearly all of the posts I've seen from you have been derogatory. That kind of consistency makes an attitude.

:lol if that's how you define smack, so be it.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 12:20 PM

wrong.

We'll disagree on that.

SA realized that bending over for the Cowboys wasn't financially viable.

Uhh, obviously not since there was a gap because SA wouldn't give into the Cowboys demands. Try again. Think about what would make the Cowboys cave...

maybe, but he's not donating to keep the NFL out of SA.

I still think it's a minor consideration on it. Big reason would be PR in SA.

So by this, you are saying that JJ wouldnt mind SA having its own NFL team?

Don't ask that question if you know what's good for you.

JJ IS on record as saying he wouldn't oppose a team in SA. Any claim (including mine) of him doing anything to prevent an SA team are officially conspiracy theories.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 12:22 PM

Well if you're not annoyed and nobody else is complaining about me being annoying then I guess Im not doing a good job at being annoying.

Wrong about me having anything to do with the CSF being shut down.

I had a lot of posts and didn't help, but I was far from being a "major player". :lol

Eh, maybe I was thinking Steven. Admittedly, my mind has been quite fuzzy lately.

:lol if that's how you define smack, so be it.

Not at all. Not everyone engages in smack talk. I rarely do.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 12:27 PM

I know..........its only a theory...........but, a good one.

Why in the world would JJ want SA to grab a team and lose some fan base? San Antonio has more Dallas Cowboys fans than any city outside of DFW area.

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:33 PM

So by this, you are saying that JJ wouldnt mind SA having its own NFL team?

yes, that's what I'm saying.

It would be nice if you guys would do a little research every now and again.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 12:35 PM

yes, that's what I'm saying.

It would be nice if you guys would do a little research every now and again.

Why in the world would JJ want SA to grab a team and lose some fan base? San Antonio has more Dallas Cowboys fans than any city outside of DFW area.

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:43 PM

We'll disagree on that.

we'll disagree because you have no data to support your claim.

Uhh, obviously not since there was a gap because SA wouldn't give into the Cowboys demands. Try again. Think about what would make the Cowboys cave...

UTSA football?

I still think it's a minor consideration on it. Big reason would be PR in SA.

Unless he has kids at UTSA, the only reason is PR. Anything beyond that is pure speculation on your parts.

Don't ask that question if you know what's good for you.

JJ IS on record as saying he wouldn't oppose a team in SA. Any claim (including mine) of him doing anything to prevent an SA team are officially conspiracy theories.

correct

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:46 PM

Not at all. Not everyone engages in smack talk. I rarely do.

oh ok. Then I guess you are just talking out of your ass again. I would recommend you not post with a fuzzy head any more unless you don't mind looking like a dumbass.

lebomb

02-19-2009, 12:48 PM

oh ok. Then I guess you are just talking out of your ass again. I would recommend you not post with a fuzzy head any more unless you don't mind looking like a dumbass.

See that is what a lot of us are talking about. He was trying to be cool. Damn man, you are an asshole.

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:49 PM

Why in the world would JJ want SA to grab a team and lose some fan base? San Antonio has more Dallas Cowboys fans than any city outside of DFW area.

because the amount of money he might theoretically lose would be like you pulling change out of your car ash tray.

and bolding your questions doesnt make you any less ignorant

Blake

02-19-2009, 12:54 PM

See that is what a lot of us are talking about. He was trying to be cool. Damn man, you are an asshole.

saying I was a main reason that the CSF got shut down and admitting he's had a fuzzy head means he was talking out of his ass. Not cool.

Damn, you are a dipsh1t.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 01:35 PM

oh ok. Then I guess you are just talking out of your ass again. I would recommend you not post with a fuzzy head any more unless you don't mind looking like a dumbass.

Actually, that was a valid point. That high of a concentration marks an attitude. Whatever though.

Oh, I rarely talk out of my ass. 95% of the time I can back up whatever I say with whatever info you want. I do get confused with screen names sometimes though (I would have gone back to double check, but I don't have those threads anywhere). Comes with being more interested in what people have to say that who people are. Some people, like Boutons and RandomGuy in the political forum make lasting impressions for one reason or the other, though.

And I don't mind looking like a dumbass, as long as I make people laugh :lol

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 01:39 PM

we'll disagree because you have no data to support your claim.

Actually, a little data and a bit of logic.

UTSA football?

:lol Okay, apparently you pay no attention to the SA football landscape.

Unless he has kids at UTSA, the only reason is PR. Anything beyond that is pure speculation on your parts.

correct

Yep, I've admitted it's speculation. No big deal.

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 02:12 PM

Actually, having a D1 team would impact the feasibility of professional ball whether it's a powerhouse or not. SA is borderline (at best) on being able to support an NFL team, so anything that takes money away from a prospective pro team lessens the liklihood of a pro team coming here.

Not like it'd be the first time he'd done something like that. Have you compared the current lease for TC compared to the first one that JJ said didn't favor the Cowboys enough? The new lease is more pro-SA than the first. What happened in the time between the two leases?

Mostly, I think JJ would donate enough to get news coverage so he could proclaim that SA deserves the best football it can get, then remind people the Cowboys are returning to SA for TC.

his donoation will be minimal in stature (which means it will probably be one the top 10 donations UTSA athletics has ever gotten)

the nfl will never come to san antonio and that has nothing to do with library books needing to be filed, errrrrrrrrrrrr, i mean UTSA.

pkbpkb81

02-19-2009, 02:13 PM

that would be "anti-utsa freak"

nobody here is really anti-utsa. most everyone else is indifferent towards utsa.

+1

what really makes me mad is because of this utsa thing i am agreeing with Blake

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 02:29 PM

his donoation will be minimal in stature (which means it will probably be one the top 10 donations UTSA athletics has ever gotten)

That's about what I expect. Enough to get him in the news.

the nfl will never come to san antonio and that has nothing to do with library books needing to be filed, errrrrrrrrrrrr, i mean UTSA.

Not that I really disagree there. The odds are extremely small anyway (fraction of a percent at best for the NFL). D1 football makes it fractionally closer to zero.

Roadrunners

02-19-2009, 03:19 PM

Well if you're not annoyed and nobody else is complaining about me being annoying then I guess Im not doing a good job at being annoying.

Wrong about me having anything to do with the CSF being shut down.

I had a lot of posts and didn't help, but I was far from being a "major player". :lol

:lol if that's how you define smack, so be it.

no you are very annoying. beside the point though, jerry jones does not want a team in san antonio. i am not saying this is his motive for a potential donation but there is a huge cowboy fan base in san antonio. wonder why they want to bring their camp back???? any owner in jj shoes would not want a team in san antonio. that is common sense

Blake

02-19-2009, 03:47 PM

That high of a concentration marks an attitude.

says who? you?

I'm not even sure what your point is.

Hell, you're the one with the fuzzy head and mixed me up with other poster(s). I doubt you even know what your point is or that it's even me you are thinking about that has an attitide.

Oh, I rarely talk out of my ass. 95% of the time I can back up whatever I say with whatever info you want.

Good for you. Pat yourself on the back for only talking out of your ass 5% of the time.

I do get confused with screen names sometimes though (I would have gone back to double check, but I don't have those threads anywhere).

Comes with being more interested in what people have to say that who people are. Some people, like Boutons and RandomGuy in the political forum make lasting impressions for one reason or the other, though.

Obviously you're more interested in who I am and what you have accused me of doing over what I have actually posted.

And I don't mind looking like a dumbass, as long as I make people laugh :lol

that's a good attitude to have. Too bad you're making people laugh in ways you probably didn't intend.

Blake

02-19-2009, 03:53 PM

Actually, a little data and a bit of logic.

I looked again......no, still don't see any data and your "logic" is based on your apparent limited grasp of how NFL owners make money.

:lol Okay, apparently you pay no attention to the SA football landscape.

Stop beating around the bush and get to the point.

Yep, I've admitted it's speculation. No big deal.

Yep, it's speculation based on conspiracy theories of JJ wanting to keep the NFL out of SA. You're right in that it's no big deal.

Blake

02-19-2009, 03:56 PM

no you are very annoying.

lol, roadrunner fan.

I can see how being hit with dose after dose of reality can be annoying.

beside the point though, jerry jones does not want a team in san antonio.

link?

i am not saying this is his motive for a potential donation but there is a huge cowboy fan base in san antonio. wonder why they want to bring their camp back???? any owner in jj shoes would not want a team in san antonio. that is common sense

is being clueless a prerequisite to getting admitted into UTSA?

Good lord.

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 04:07 PM

says who? you?

I'm not even sure what your point is.

Hell, you're the one with the fuzzy head and mixed me up with other poster(s). I doubt you even know what your point is or that it's even me you are thinking about that has an attitide.

Common sense man.

Ahem: "Attitude - 1. manner, disposition, feeling, position, etc., with regard to a person or thing; tendency or orientation, esp. of the mind: a negative attitude; group attitudes. "

You have shown a tendency to be derogatory, hence attitude.

And the point was that you have had a derogatory attitude, at least towards anyone speaking about UTSA, lately. Can say anything about beyond recent history.

I may have gotten you and Steven confused as to how much of a role was played in the initial flareup. I know you made at least a few posts there. Hell, I did to.

Good for you. Pat yourself on the back for only talking out of your ass 5% of the time.

Hey, sometimes it's more fun to make shit up and confuse people. I freely admit that.

Obviously you're more interested in who I am and what you have accused me of doing over what I have actually posted.

??? How'd you get there from talking about some things you've said, AND admitting I confused you with another poster?

that's a good attitude to have. Too bad you're making people laugh in ways you probably didn't intend.

It's possible. Of course, you never know with me. I've been known to play the idiot to make people laugh :hat

I looked again......no, still don't see any data and your "logic" is based on your apparent limited grasp of how NFL owners make money.

Actualy, I know quite a bit about that. It's why I know SA is not exactly a player in getting an NFL team anyway.

Still, I brought it up earlier. SA is borderline (at best) NFL caliber town in terms of consumer disposable cash. You add something to consume more of the disposable cash, and it makes it less likely they'll come here. There is no benefit to come here in terms of TV contract (by far the most important part of NFL finances), merchandising (this is an exception with a couple teams, though, as they keep a share of their sales off the top), etc. It's all about tickets and suite sales. If you can't provide better tickets and suite sales than somewhere else, you ain't getting the NFL.

Stop beating around the bush and get to the point.

The Saints short lived stay. The current agreement with the Cowboys was reached a few months after Hardberger got busted violating NFL rules by talking to Benson about relocating the Saints permanently.

Blake

02-19-2009, 04:23 PM

Common sense man.

Ahem: "Attitude - 1. manner, disposition, feeling, position, etc., with regard to a person or thing; tendency or orientation, esp. of the mind: a negative attitude; group attitudes. "

You have shown a tendency to be derogatory, hence attitude.

And the point was that you have had a derogatory attitude, at least towards anyone speaking about UTSA, lately. Can say anything about beyond recent history.

Nope....wrong again. You're assuming an awful lot for someone that can't say anything beyond a few posts back.

I may have gotten you and Steven confused as to how much of a role was played in the initial flareup. I know you made at least a few posts there. Hell, I did to.

Great. So we both agree you were talking out of your ass. Way to own it.

Hey, sometimes it's more fun to make shit up and confuse people. I freely admit that.

I'll make sure to refer back to this line when you continue to state things as facts with no data to back them up with.

??? How'd you get there from talking about some things you've said, AND admitting I confused you with another poster?

because you are trying to characterize me enough to the point where you are busting out definitions of a word to try to describe me....insetad of replying to what I've written.

Common sense.

It's possible. Of course, you never know with me. I've been known to play the idiot to make people laugh :hat

you're certainly doing a good job playing the idiot.

Actualy, I know quite a bit about that. It's why I know SA is not exactly a player in getting an NFL team anyway.

Right. So why would JJ spend one dime on insurance to keep the NFL out?

Still, I brought it up earlier. SA is borderline (at best) NFL caliber town in terms of consumer disposable cash. You add something to consume more of the disposable cash, and it makes it less likely they'll come here. There is no benefit to come here in terms of TV contract (by far the most important part of NFL finances), merchandising (this is an exception with a couple teams, though, as they keep a share of their sales off the top), etc. It's all about tickets and suite sales. If you can't provide better tickets and suite sales than somewhere else, you ain't getting the NFL.

you're assuming that UTSA will be a big time college football program in the next few years, which they wont. JJ may have sold the Cowboys long before UTSA ever hits FBS status.

..and if the NFL were to come to town, UTSA football would take the hit......not the NFL.

The Saints short lived stay. The current agreement with the Cowboys was reached a few months after Hardberger got busted violating NFL rules by talking to Benson about relocating the Saints permanently.

link?

I need to look it up for sure, but IIRC, Benson wanted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of renovations done to the Alamodome just to be considered in moving the team. Hardberger basically told him to get the fock out.

edit: I remember now......Benson was basically demanding a new stadium. Hardberger and the rest of SA was getting tired of getting played by Benson and told him that with a few renovations, the Alamodome was NFL ready so take it or leave it.

Hardberger never got busted by the NFL for violating any rules in talking to Benson......:lol

more ass talking.

RonMexico

02-19-2009, 04:39 PM

All I know is that if you look up the blog "Christian Sings the Blues," you will note that a porn star chronicles his entire "work" for a year out in LA and he is a former UTSA b-ball star. I think this is a bigger claim to fame for the school than Bruce Bowen.

Hope I don't get banned for this...

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 04:48 PM

Nope....wrong again. You're assuming an awful lot for someone that can't say anything beyond a few posts back.

Not really. You've proven it with EVERY post I've seen from you in this thread.

Great. So we both agree you were talking out of your ass. Way to own it.

Way to comprehend :rolleyes

I'll make sure to refer back to this line when you continue to state things as facts with no data to back them up with.

Go for it. Of course, I don't bother starting out with data because most people on the internet don't give a crap about the data.

because you are trying to characterize me enough to the point where you are busting out definitions of a word to try to describe me....insetad of replying to what I've written.

That still makes sense. I'm categorizing the attitude of your posts, not you. I know plenty of people who are nice on the 'Net and assholes in real life and vice versa. I know nothing about you, and don't care to.

you're certainly doing a good job playing the idiot.

Other than the confusing you and steven (I'm still not entirely sure on that, but with no way to check, I'll stick with it), not really.

Right. So why would JJ spend one dime on insurance to keep the NFL out?

Because it coincides with another goal. I've already said the primary reason would be PR in SA, helping keep other teams out would just be a kicker.

you're assuming that UTSA will be a big time college football program in the next few years, which they wont. JJ may have sold the Cowboys long before UTSA ever hits FBS status.

I assumed no such thing. If something costs $5, and I have $5.01, but then spend $0.02 on something, I still can't afford the $5 item.

..and if the NFL were to come to town, UTSA football would take the hit......not the NFL.

UTSA would take a hit, most definitely. But they wouldn't lose EVERYONE, so it's still less available to the NFL. It's not like everybody prefers NFL to NCAA.

link?

I need to look it up for sure, but IIRC, Benson wanted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of renovations done to the Alamodome just to be considered in moving the team. Hardberger basically told him to get the fock out.

Here's (http://www.spursreport.com/forums/845020-post1.html) a link to a quoted MySA article from Mar 2006. At that point, they were still negotiating. It was in October and November of 2005 that people got pissed about Hardberger talking to Benson.

Uh, no. The city commission a study to determine how much it would cost to upgrade the Alamodome and came up with somewhere around $200 million. Hardberger didn't stop talking to until Tagliabue made it clear he wouldn't let the team move.

Blake

02-19-2009, 05:13 PM

Not really. You've proven it with EVERY post I've seen from you in this thread.

:lol Wrong again. You're assuming way too much.

Way to comprehend :rolleyes

oh, so you disagree that you were talking out of your ass?

then you apparently can't comprehend your own posts.

Go for it. Of course, I don't bother starting out with data because most people on the internet don't give a crap about the data.

right. Who needs facts and data when trying to make a point. Making shit up is more fun for you any way.

That still makes sense. I'm categorizing the attitude of your posts, not you. I know plenty of people who are nice on the 'Net and assholes in real life and vice versa. I know nothing about you, and don't care to.

And yet you still are having problems responding to my posts based on the content and are making assumed generalizations about me. Nice job.

Other than the confusing you and steven (I'm still not entirely sure on that, but with no way to check, I'll stick with it), not really.

How do you know? You're the one with the fuzzy head.

Take my word for it, you're an idiot.

Because it coincides with another goal. I've already said the primary reason would be PR in SA, helping keep other teams out would just be a kicker.

JJ wouldn't lose hardly anything if the NFL came to SA. There's no kicker.

I assumed no such thing. If something costs $5, and I have $5.01, but then spend $0.02 on something, I still can't afford the $5 item.

that makes no sense in regards to this, but if UTSA isn't going strong, then an NFL owner wouldn't worry about them and throws your whole 'theory' out.

UTSA would take a hit, most definitely. But they wouldn't lose EVERYONE, so it's still less available to the NFL. It's not like everybody prefers NFL to NCAA.

corporations do. Please tell me you think if a corporation had the choice between giving money to an NFL team or the roadrunners that they would choose the runners.....

Here's (http://www.spursreport.com/forums/845020-post1.html) a link to a quoted MySA article from Mar 2006. At that point, they were still negotiating. It was in October and November of 2005 that people got pissed about Hardberger talking to Benson.

Uh, no. The city commission a study to determine how much it would cost to upgrade the Alamodome and came up with somewhere around $200 million. Hardberger didn't stop talking to until Tagliabue made it clear he wouldn't let the team move.

I edited my post accordingly talking about the new stadium that Benson wanted but none of that is what you said in your other post.

You said Hardberger got busted in violating NFL rules which is more of your ass talking.

The Reckoning

02-19-2009, 05:39 PM

if SA had a NFL team, they should name them the Coyotes

fyatuk

02-19-2009, 05:50 PM

:lol Wrong again. You're assuming way too much.

And yet you still are having problems responding to my posts based on the content and are making assumed generalizations about me. Nice job.

Hrmm.. Let's see. I mention your posts were showing a derogatory attitude, which they were and still are. You disagree. I start discussing the meaning of attitude and how it applies in this circumstance, and you start accusing me of focusing on you instead of what's in your posts. Um, I was addressing what was in your posts. You were asking how it applied, and I explained.

Not sure how responding to something IN your posts is not responding to content. Especially when for the rest of it, I'm providing more details than you.

oh, so you disagree that you were talking out of your ass?

then you apparently can't comprehend your own posts.

Correct, I do disagree. I made a mistake, you pointed it out, I accepted it. Big deal.

right. Who needs facts and data when trying to make a point. Making shit up is more fun for you any way.

Like I said. I don't start out with them because the vast majority don't give a crap about them anyway.

Take my word for it, you're an idiot.

:lol Way to be what you accuse others of.

JJ wouldn't lose hardly anything if the NFL came to SA. There's no kicker.

Just because there's no real financial incentive (he'd lose money, but not a significant amount to him), doesn't mean there's no kicker. It's an ego thing with JJ.

that makes no sense in regards to this, but if UTSA isn't going strong, then an NFL owner wouldn't worry about them and throws your whole 'theory' out.

Well, if UTSA does unexpectedly badly in terms of attendance, merchandise sales, etc, than it won't make much of a difference. The point is that SA is in a bad position anyway, so any worsening of that position affects the potential.

corporations do. Please tell me you think if a corporation had the choice between giving money to an NFL team or the roadrunners that they would choose the runners.....

They'd do both. The NFL wouldn't get as much as they could otherwise, but still significantly (many times over) more than the Runners.

I edited my post accordingly talking about the new stadium that Benson wanted but none of that is what you said in your other post.

You said Hardberger got busted in violating NFL rules which is more of your ass talking.

I'll have to see if I can find the things I saw reported back then. IIRC there's a league rule saying you cannot discuss relocation during the active season, which is why Benson repeatedly told Harberger to talk to him after the season. Hardberger went very public saying he'd discussed it with Benson, and was going to sit down with him after the season (not really breaking the rule, but certainly skirting the spirit of it). Shortly after that is when Tagliabue basically said no way, no how were the Saints moving here.

Blake

02-19-2009, 06:49 PM

I'll have to see if I can find the things I saw reported back then. IIRC there's a league rule saying you cannot discuss relocation during the active season, which is why Benson repeatedly told Harberger to talk to him after the season. Hardberger went very public saying he'd discussed it with Benson, and was going to sit down with him after the season (not really breaking the rule, but certainly skirting the spirit of it). Shortly after that is when Tagliabue basically said no way, no how were the Saints moving here.

There are no rules regarding where and when and to who an owner can talk to. When Benson was talking about moving the team to SA during the 2006 season, it was considered poor taste by many because of Katrina.

Benson was alluding to SA needing to build a brand new football stadium. Hardberger said the one we have is just fine and that was the end of that.

None of that had to do with the Cowboys, UTSA or anything else you try to pull out of your ass.

dws009

02-19-2009, 06:54 PM

the utsa fans are a joke there is not a person on the collage board that hasent giveing me shit about being from oklahoma but i havent called someones work or bitched out kori over and the texas,osu,a&m,ttu,usc, and that troll uf fan have not ever gottin out of line like the utsa people

I won't defend whoever it was that called Marco's work. However, I find it fucked up that he happens to work for the university and is talking all this trash about his place of employment.

Common sense tells us that if you were to do that for any company, that said company would have problems a employee tarnishing them on or even off hours.

Blake

02-19-2009, 07:06 PM

Common sense tells us that if you were to do that for any company, that said company would have problems a employee tarnishing them on or even off hours.

really? I've never heard of someone getting fired for talking junk about their employer on a message board. News to me.

dws009

02-19-2009, 07:11 PM

Maybe you just lack common sense...........it's cool, there's a support group for people like you!

tonylongoriafan

02-19-2009, 11:00 PM

it is all happening my friends...football coaching canidates down to 3, baseball opening day friday, and basketball battles for 1st on saturday

leemajors

02-19-2009, 11:39 PM

CubanMustGo

02-19-2009, 11:48 PM

it is all happening my friends...football coaching canidates down to 3, baseball opening day friday, and basketball battles for 1st on saturday

Oh? Link to story on coaching candidates?

J.T.

02-20-2009, 12:31 AM

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 08:36 AM

There are no rules regarding where and when and to who an owner can talk to. When Benson was talking about moving the team to SA during the 2006 season, it was considered poor taste by many because of Katrina.

I'm pretty sure there is, but since the bylaws are not available online that I can see, I can't verify that directly and have had a chance to look at any of the articles I read back then.

And 2005 season.

Benson was alluding to SA needing to build a brand new football stadium. Hardberger said the one we have is just fine and that was the end of that.

I remember talk of a new stadium in New Orleans (Blanco brought it up in September). Don't remember any talk of a stadium in SA until the east side project in 2006 or 2007 that was proposed by someone convicted of fraud previously that I never took seriously. Link?

None of that had to do with the Cowboys, UTSA or anything else you try to pull out of your ass.

Errr... Just because you sound confused, I'll clarify. The Saints situation (the details of which are meaningless anyway) had a causal effect. The effect part was how much of a pro-SA deal the city got from the Cowboys.

Not necessarily WHY they got the deal, but part of why this deal is better than the last one, which the Cowboys said did not favor them enough.

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 08:36 AM

Bowen went to CSU Fullerton. Did you mean Devin Brown?

Bowen has taken classes at UTSA.

Don't know if that's what they meant or not...

tonylongoriafan

02-20-2009, 09:10 AM

Oh? Link to story on coaching candidates?

couldn't find a link, don harris of woai reported yesterday the final 3 candidates are bradley, macintyre, & coker will visit san antonio & the campus next week.

Blake

02-20-2009, 09:19 AM

Maybe you just lack common sense...........it's cool, there's a support group for people like you!

God I wish there was a support forum for utsa freaks like you and that somehow common sense would tell you to stay in there and not come out

Blake

02-20-2009, 09:35 AM

I'm pretty sure there is, but since the bylaws are not available online that I can see, I can't verify that directly and have had a chance to look at any of the articles I read back then.

wow. talking about things you cant verify. shocker.

you are an idiot.

I remember talk of a new stadium in New Orleans (Blanco brought it up in September). Don't remember any talk of a stadium in SA until the east side project in 2006 or 2007 that was proposed by someone convicted of fraud previously that I never took seriously. Link?

goddam you are a focking idiot.

I said Benson wanted the new NFL stadium and that Hardberger told him no.

The stadium proposal that was put together by a private company that you are talking about is a totally separate issue. Hell, you might also be thinking about the baseball stadium that the city/county was talking about when there was talk of the Marlins maybe moving here.

Hardberger: Dome or else for Saints

LAST UPDATE: 10/28/2005 11:16:28 PM

Posted By: Walter Pasacrita.

San Antonio Mayor Phil Hardberger said Thursday if New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson wants a new stadium as part of a plan to relocate the NFL team to the Alamo City, he can forget it and if that kills a future deal with the Saints, so be it.

Hardberger told the Express-News, "There have been general conversations along the lines that it would be nice to have" a new stadium, Hardberger said. "Let's say there have been some general hints that our standing would be improved if we said, We will build you a new, state-of-the-art stadium." Hardberger added that building a new facility with taxpayers money is not a good idea but there could be other ways to finance a new football stadium. "It could be, of course, that the state could get involved with that or it could be developers on their own right get involved with that," Hardberger said. "There are other ways stadiums get built. But as far as San Antonio being a player in the building of a new stadium, I wouldn't want to do that."

http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/6253/2038656.html

Errr... Just because you sound confused, I'll clarify. The Saints situation (the details of which are meaningless anyway) had a causal effect. The effect part was how much of a pro-SA deal the city got from the Cowboys.

Like everything else you post, you have no source to back it up with except for your ass, so no, it really didn't have an effect whatsoever. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and are a fucking confused idiot.

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 09:52 AM

wow. talking about things you cant verify. shocker.

you are an idiot.

I said I couldn't verify directly. Well, I could if I wanted to go to the public records office of wherever the NFL's charter and bylaws are registered. I haven't had a chance to look for a secondary source.

goddam you are a focking idiot.

I said Benson wanted the new NFL stadium and that Hardberger told him no.

The stadium proposal that was put together by a private company that you are talking about is a totally separate issue. Hell, you might also be thinking about the baseball stadium that the city/county was talking about when there was talk of the Marlins maybe moving here.

Uhh, I specifically mentioned the project I remembered, which obviously was not any of the Marlins proposals. I was stating the stadium talk I remembered, and since I didn't remember one in reference to the Saints, I asked you for a link. Since you had the year confused, I needed confirmation on something I didn't remember.

That you for providing the link.

Heck, I spent most of my time on New Orleans boards during that time (met some really interesting people). No wonder the New Orleans stadium talk stuck clearer in my mind.

Like everything else you post, you have no source to back it up with except for your ass, so no, it really didn't have an effect whatsoever. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and are a fucking confused idiot.

See, now you're just becoming pathetically hostile. Which while entertaining in itself, won't be for very long. :sleep

J.T.

02-20-2009, 10:55 AM

so far this thread is like

Blake 9873872 Everyone Else 0

Just quit trying people, you all suck at this game

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 11:21 AM

so far this thread is like

Blake 9873872 Everyone Else 0

Just quit trying people, you all suck at this game

Was I supposed to be trying to score points? I've just been entertaining myself...

Blake

02-20-2009, 11:46 AM

See, now you're just becoming pathetically hostile. Which while entertaining in itself, won't be for very long. :sleep

Wrong again.

Pathetically hostile is like roadies coming in, talking out of his ass screaming "F you" at anything that moves.

I've got evidence here in this thread that you are a focking clueless idiot.

You obviously don't know what "pathetic" "hostile" or "entertaining" mean.

Blake

02-20-2009, 11:48 AM

Bowen went to CSU Fullerton. Did you mean Devin Brown?

Bowen played bball at CSU and finished up a degree in....(marketing?) at UTSA.

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 11:52 AM

Wrong again.

Pathetically hostile is like roadies coming in, talking out of his ass screaming "F you" at anything that moves.

I've got evidence here in this thread that you are a focking clueless idiot.

You obviously don't know what "pathetic" "hostile" or "entertaining" mean.

Depends on your definitions. Roadies is far beyond pathetically hostile in my book.

To me, saying "focking clueless idiot" or some derivation every paragraph is pathetically hostile. Especially when we've already established you have no idea if I'm being serious with anything or not. Really "fool" or "moron" would be a more approriate term. At least get some new material, man. It's starting to bore me.

And including "entertaining" in that last sentence is asinine since you have no idea what is entertaining to me. High subjective term, unless you believe that everyone should think exactly like you.

Blake

02-20-2009, 11:58 AM

To me, saying "focking clueless idiot" or some derivation every paragraph is pathetically hostile. Especially when we've already established you have no idea if I'm being serious with anything or not.

If you are being serious, then you are a focking clueless idiot. If you aren't then you are a focking clueless idiot. It's in Webster's. Look it up.

Really "fool" or "moron" would be a more approriate term. At least get some new material, man. It's starting to bore me.

It's boring you? Nobody's forcing this "entertainment" on you.

And including "entertaining" in that last sentence is asinine since you have no idea what is entertaining to me. High subjective term, unless you believe that everyone should think exactly like you.

No, I included it in the last sentence because you are a focking clueless idiot which leads me to believe you don't even know what is entertaining to yourself.

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 12:04 PM

If you are being serious, then you are a focking clueless idiot. If you aren't then you are a focking clueless idiot. It's in Webster's. Look it up.

It's boring you? Nobody's forcing this "entertainment" on you.

No, I included it in the last sentence because you are a focking clueless idiot which leads me to believe you don't even know what is entertaining to yourself.

:lol

That's almost word for word what I thought you'd respond with!

Blake

02-20-2009, 12:14 PM

:lol

That's almost word for word what I thought you'd respond with!

great! What will I say next?

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 12:27 PM

great! What will I say next?

Same shit you've been saying.

So, did you have fun arguing over semantics because you didn't want a term applied to your post, then stringing a discussion out until you could find something to prove wrong about it?

Blake

02-20-2009, 12:33 PM

Same shit you've been saying.

You don't know sh1t.

Talking out out of your ass again.

So, did you have fun arguing over semantics because you didn't want a term applied to your post, then stringing a discussion out until you could find something to prove wrong about it?

huh? You've been wrong in basically every post.

You say you are being entertained in one post, then two posts later, you say this is boring you. Again, you don't know what "entertained" means.

You self own and are a focking clueless idiot.

CubanMustGo

02-20-2009, 12:36 PM

Would you two lovers go get a room and leave the rest of us to a thread in theory about college sports?

lebomb

02-20-2009, 12:43 PM

This is turning out to be as epic as a Utsa thread!!!! Keep it going! I already went the fuck off in here.........now I just want to sit back and :corn:

Blake

02-20-2009, 12:57 PM

Would you two lovers go get a room and leave the rest of us to a thread in theory about college sports?

:lol Are you handicapped? Do you need some kind of assistance in starting your own thread? Nothing's stopping you, Shooter.

friggin jeenyus after jeenyus keeps popping up.

JudynTX

02-20-2009, 12:58 PM

Any idea when this UTSA football team will step foot onto a field?

bleedo&B

02-20-2009, 01:28 PM

:lol Are you handicapped? Do you need some kind of assistance in starting your own UTSA threads? Nothing's stopping you, Shooter.

friggin jeenyus after jeenyus keeps popping up.

This is awesome Blake. We've had a breakthrough! Blake has finally given in.

Let's get the UTSA threads going again we don't need the College Forum! :toast:toast

bleedo&B

02-20-2009, 01:29 PM

Any idea when this UTSA football team will step foot onto a field?

Fall of 2011.

JudynTX

02-20-2009, 01:34 PM

Fall of 2011.

That's just around the corner. :tu

The Reckoning

02-20-2009, 01:34 PM

there's no forum, so this will do for now...

(no UTSA references, either)

:depressed

Blake

02-20-2009, 01:42 PM

This is awesome Blake. We've had a breakthrough! Blake has finally given in.

Let's get the UTSA threads going again we don't need the College Forum! :toast:toast

:td

weak

Blake

02-20-2009, 01:42 PM

:depressed

cmon........you had to know.....

:lol

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 01:43 PM

You don't know sh1t.

Talking out out of your ass again.

Not really. This is basically exactly the same as everything else you've posted.

huh? You've been wrong in basically every post.

You say you are being entertained in one post, then two posts later, you say this is boring you. Again, you don't know what "entertained" means.

You self own and are a focking clueless idiot.

Uhhh... Apparently you have trouble separating portions and wholes. As a whole, this is entertaining me. You're repetitive insult is boring. I mean, my mom used to come up with better than that (then again, my mom was a pro, can't expect people to live up to her standards).

As for our little conversation here...

You defended yourself against the "derogatory attitude" claim by basically stating you do exactly what I meant. Wow.

Otherwise, the big part of the debate was over my supposition that the deal for Cowboys TC became more pro-SA after the Saints as part of JJ's plan to keep a team out of SA.

You did absolutely nothing to refute it. It's not like it's hard. Since my premise is based on the intentions of someone who isn't around to verify/refute them, all that was needed was to come up with a viable alternative explanation as to why the deal changed.

Hell, a good tactic would have been to bring up the cost of moving equipment from Dallas to Cali vs Dallas to SA, and things like that. You could also have lessened the pro-Dallas image of the first agreement by reminding everyone that part of the financial incentive of the 2003 was to pay for new turf that the Alamodome still uses for all football events, and the sodding that was used in the temporary field was then used to replant youth parks.

Hell, anybody worth their salt would have at least brought up the kicker in the current TC agreement allowing the city to kick the Cowboys out if SA gets a team.

Gee, look, I just did more damage to my own premise than you did the entire time. Instead of actually trying to address the premise, you instead attacked details surrounding the background information that are unimportant to the general premise.

It's actually a common tactic used by people who are more concerned about tearing others down below them than elevating themselves.

lebomb

02-20-2009, 02:03 PM

Not really. This is basically exactly the same as everything else you've posted.

Uhhh... Apparently you have trouble separating portions and wholes. As a whole, this is entertaining me. You're repetitive insult is boring. I mean, my mom used to come up with better than that (then again, my mom was a pro, can't expect people to live up to her standards).

As for our little conversation here...

You defended yourself against the "derogatory attitude" claim by basically stating you do exactly what I meant. Wow.

Otherwise, the big part of the debate was over my supposition that the deal for Cowboys TC became more pro-SA after the Saints as part of JJ's plan to keep a team out of SA.

You did absolutely nothing to refute it. It's not like it's hard. Since my premise is based on the intentions of someone who isn't around to verify/refute them, all that was needed was to come up with a viable alternative explanation as to why the deal changed.

Hell, a good tactic would have been to bring up the cost of moving equipment from Dallas to Cali vs Dallas to SA, and things like that. You could also have lessened the pro-Dallas image of the first agreement by reminding everyone that part of the financial incentive of the 2003 was to pay for new turf that the Alamodome still uses for all football events, and the sodding that was used in the temporary field was then used to replant youth parks.

Hell, anybody worth their salt would have at least brought up the kicker in the current TC agreement allowing the city to kick the Cowboys out if SA gets a team.

Gee, look, I just did more damage to my own premise than you did the entire time. Instead of actually trying to address the premise, you instead attacked details surrounding the background information that are unimportant to the general premise.

It's actually a common tactic used by people who are more concerned about tearing others down below them than elevating themselves.

DAMN!!! LOL :ihit ........................ :fight........................:dizzy.............. .......... :hang

tonylongoriafan

02-20-2009, 02:16 PM

how many points do i get for :rolleyes

Blake

02-20-2009, 04:56 PM

Not really. This is basically exactly the same as everything else you've posted.

which is what? You said you can call it word for word.

More ass talking again.

Uhhh... Apparently you have trouble separating portions and wholes. As a whole, this is entertaining me. You're repetitive insult is boring.

It's so boring, you can't help yourself in responding every time.

self ownage again.

I mean, my mom used to come up with better than that (then again, my mom was a pro, can't expect people to live up to her standards).

your mom was a pro? I'm not even sure how to respond to that.....

I guess I'm sorry.

self ownage again.

As for our little conversation here...

You defended yourself against the "derogatory attitude" claim by basically stating you do exactly what I meant. Wow.

Wrong again.

I called you a focking clueless idiot based on your posts. Stating the truth through derogatory terms does not equal a derogatory attitude.

Derogatory attitude isn't even a psychological term of any kind. You made that up all by yourself because you are a focking clueless idiot.

Otherwise, the big part of the debate was over my supposition that the deal for Cowboys TC became more pro-SA after the Saints as part of JJ's plan to keep a team out of SA.

You did absolutely nothing to refute it.

It's not like it's hard. Since my premise is based on the intentions of someone who isn't around to verify/refute them, all that was needed was to come up with a viable alternative explanation as to why the deal changed.

It isn't hard. You're the one making the claim, dipsh1t. It's on you to provide the facts to back it up. You did nothing to verify it.

How can I refute something when there's nothing out there to refute?

Of course, as you said, you are the one that likes to make up sh1t for fun.

If that isn't the case here, then you are a focking clueless idiot because of this.......not because I'm displayin your made-up term of "derogatory attitude" but because you really are a focking confused idiot.

Hell, a good tactic would have been to bring up the cost of moving equipment from Dallas to Cali vs Dallas to SA, and things like that. You could also have lessened the pro-Dallas image of the first agreement by reminding everyone that part of the financial incentive of the 2003 was to pay for new turf that the Alamodome still uses for all football events, and the sodding that was used in the temporary field was then used to replant youth parks.

Hell, anybody worth their salt would have at least brought up the kicker in the current TC agreement allowing the city to kick the Cowboys out if SA gets a team.

Gee, look, I just did more damage to my own premise than you did the entire time. Instead of actually trying to address the premise, you instead attacked details surrounding the background information that are unimportant to the general premise.

Gee look, you are coming up with a bunch of assumptions that do absolutely nothing for anything.

More ass talking again.

You are a focking clueless idiot because you cannot provide any facts or data to support any of your ass talking.

It's actually a common tactic used by people who are more concerned about tearing others down below them than elevating themselves.

A more common tactic that actually works is providing evidence to back up your stupid assessments.

You are focking clueless idiot.

fyatuk

02-20-2009, 05:17 PM

which is what? You said you can call it word for word.

More ass talking again.

Didn't say I could. I said I did for that one post. The gist of every single one of you posts has been the same, so it's not like that's a challenge.

It's so boring, you can't help yourself in responding every time.

self ownage again.

:rolleyes

your mom was a pro? I'm not even sure how to respond to that.....

I guess I'm sorry.

self ownage again.

Who would have thought that kind of response was coming from someone specializing in slinging insults. Wow. Real original there.:rolleyes

Wrong again.

I called you a focking clueless idiot based on your posts. Stating the truth through derogatory terms does not equal a derogatory attitude.

Derogatory attitude isn't even a psychological term of any kind. You made that up all by yourself because you are a focking clueless idiot.

You understand the concept of stringing multiple words together? It's not like I claimed it was a psychological disorder or something. You can look up "derogatory" and "attitude" and figure out how they can interract, right?

It isn't hard. You're the one making the claim, dipsh1t. It's on you to provide the facts to back it up. You did nothing to verify it.

How can I refute something when there's nothing out there to refute?

Uhhh... I showed a distinct, radical change of action and speculated a reason and stimulus.

That's all I claimed to do. I didn't claim it as undisputable fact, and in fact at one point I specifically stated the "JJ doesn't want a team in SA" theories are conspiracy theories. I even made extra special mention of mine.

At that point, you either accept the admission, or come up with a viable opposing theory. You chose neither.

Of course, as you said, you are the one that likes to make up sh1t for fun.

If that isn't the case here, then you are a focking clueless idiot because of this.......not because I'm displayin your made-up term of "derogatory attitude" but because you really are a focking confused idiot.

Yep, I sure do. It's wildly entertaining to argue things you have no belief in.

Gee look, you are coming up with a bunch of assumptions that do absolutely nothing for anything.

More ass talking again.

You are a focking clueless idiot because you cannot provide any facts or data to support any of your ass talking.

You do realize that every single thing I said in my points against my own argument is a complete varifiable fact, and pretty well known ones at that. Therefore, your last sentence would have made more sense further up. Of course, since you used this sentence, or derivation of it, so often, it really doesn't matter.

You are a focking clueless idiot because you cannot provide any facts or data to support any of your ass talking.

A more common tactic that actually works is providing evidence to back up your stupid assessments.

You are focking clueless idiot.

Well, considering you just called a bunch of facts assumptions, I'm not going to worry too much about it. Besides the fact that without testimony from the person who made the decision, the impetus for any decision is speculation.

And now you have officially bored me. Have a good weekend, see everybody on Monday.

Blake

02-20-2009, 05:27 PM

Well, considering you just called a bunch of facts assumptions, I'm not going to worry too much about it. Besides the fact that without testimony from the person who made the decision, the impetus for any decision is speculation.

And now you have officially bored me. Have a good weekend, see everybody on Monday.

Post # 466 and still no links or facts or data or anything but you talking out of your ass.

Obviously you're not getting bored of self ownage.

If you get tired of self-owning, let me know and I'll do it for you on Monday when you come back for more.

FBI

02-20-2009, 05:50 PM

Looks like we have been called in just in time.

j-6

02-20-2009, 05:54 PM

This would be the point where Mookie would post ''reggie bush lateral'' and lock this thread.

redraiderinfiji

02-20-2009, 09:02 PM

Fall of 2011.

Whats up DEL???

ha........del.........

Doug Collins

02-21-2009, 06:16 PM

Whats up DEL???

ha........del.........

A&M v tech today!!!!!:downspin:

tonylongoriafan

02-22-2009, 11:22 PM

UTSA got hammered saturday in huntsville (which sucks btw, a huge statue of sam houston and a prison)...the team looked like they just didn't want to be there...

dws009

02-22-2009, 11:47 PM

I know it's a day late but damn that was a good win for Texas vs Oklahoma. I think they're going to have to win the Big 12 tourney to get to the "dance" though.

redraiderinfiji

02-23-2009, 06:53 AM

A&M v tech today!!!!!:downspin:

Was a close game.......Tech still is not that good.....Wish knight would have stayed!

I loved that big fat badass!

Best quote from knight....

"I want to be buried face down so my critics can kiss my ass"

- Indiana pep rally when Knight was leaving

tonylongoriafan

02-23-2009, 08:42 AM

Wish knight would have stayed!

why? who leaves in the middle of the season just so his son could get the job? what did he really do for ya'll when he was there? knight hasn't been relevant was 20 yrs

tonylongoriafan

02-23-2009, 08:48 AM

I know it's a day late but damn that was a good win for Texas vs Oklahoma. I think they're going to have to win the Big 12 tourney to get to the "dance" though.

especially the part where texas concusses ou's best player :toast

idk about texas in the dance...everyone is keying on aj and he sometimes has difficulty getting rolling, but i do think they have more size, which could be an advantage but historically isn't in the tournament.

Blake

02-23-2009, 09:15 AM

Was a close game.......Tech still is not that good.....Wish knight would have stayed!

I wish both Knights would have left.

leemajors

02-23-2009, 10:38 AM

especially the part where texas concusses ou's best player :toast

idk about texas in the dance...everyone is keying on aj and he sometimes has difficulty getting rolling, but i do think they have more size, which could be an advantage but historically isn't in the tournament.

if doges keeps driving like this UT will be fine. If he plays hesitant and/or gets into foul trouble they will drop more games. They have enough quality wins to get in, they just need to keep up the momentum

leemajors

02-23-2009, 04:31 PM

griffin is out vs kansas tonight too. did i miss something? it looked like pittman barely touched him. did he hit his head at some other point?

pkbpkb81

02-23-2009, 04:45 PM

griffin is out vs kansas tonight too. did i miss something? it looked like pittman barely touched him. did he hit his head at some other point?

i dont know what the hell happened to him in that game. it looked like a he just barly got touched but i guess tonight is just to be on the safe side.

also texas has a good enough rpi to get in the big dance.
they will be the 4 or 5th team from the big 12 to get in i am thainking a number 6 seed

congrats texas fans on keeping my team from getting to number 1.

CubanMustGo

02-23-2009, 05:03 PM

No way tu beats OU without Griffin being out basically the entire game. Props to the 'horns for getting the W but they barely got by with one of the best players in the country wondering what time zone he was in. Did you see the dude? He wasn't all there. I hope it was Pittman and not something more serious.

I still think the Horns want to win a coupla games in the tourney to ensure they get in.

leemajors

02-23-2009, 05:05 PM

i dont know what the hell happened to him in that game. it looked like a he just barly got touched but i guess tonight is just to be on the safe side.

yeah, he looked on the bench like he had been clocked pretty good. seemed like he couldn't focus his eyes on anything.

leemajors

02-23-2009, 05:06 PM

pkbpkb81

02-23-2009, 09:50 PM

call me crazy, but i don't think warren goes off like that with griffin in most of the game.

that kid is going to be great! he stepped up big with the best player out but i dont thank he goes off like that eaither

but ou wins with blake even thoug it doent matter,

the team looks good tonight with out him

pkbpkb81

02-23-2009, 10:36 PM

when i said ou looked good tonight they were ou 20-8

now there not looking too good

chode_regulator

02-23-2009, 11:10 PM

This would be the point where Mookie would post ''reggie bush lateral'' and lock this thread.

:lmao

tonylongoriafan

02-24-2009, 09:27 AM

http://www.merrellcenter.org/images/tournament_schedule.jpg

RonMexico

02-24-2009, 01:19 PM

Bowen has taken classes at UTSA.

Don't know if that's what they meant or not...

I thought Bowen finished his degree at UTSA while with the Spurs... or began there before transferring to CSU-F. I don't remember the full details.

The main reason for my post was to point you all to the mind-opening blog I referenced.

fyatuk

02-24-2009, 01:23 PM

I thought Bowen finished his degree at UTSA while with the Spurs... or began there before transferring to CSU-F. I don't remember the full details.

The main reason for my post was to point you all to the mind-opening blog I referenced.

Bowen has taken classes there within the last several years. I wasn't sure if he finished a degree or anything at UTSA, but I know he's taken classes there since coming to the Spurs.

lebomb

02-24-2009, 01:40 PM

Bowen has taken classes there within the last several years. I wasn't sure if he finished a degree or anything at UTSA, but I know he's taken classes there since coming to the Spurs.

From Wikipedia

Bruce Bowen - NBA player for the San Antonio Spurs, attended and received credit for public relations classes

pkbpkb81

02-24-2009, 02:09 PM

ou played tuff without there best player last night and it got some of the younger guys some pt, i thaink it will help come the big dance

leemajors

02-24-2009, 02:44 PM

Doug Collins

02-24-2009, 08:38 PM

A&M v. Husker Nation tonite! Another must win on ESPN 2!!!

Doug Collins

02-24-2009, 11:32 PM

A&M v. Husker Nation tonite! Another must win on ESPN 2!!!

Josh Carter is god. That is all.

Who the fuck names their kid Cookie?

Doug Collins

02-24-2009, 11:33 PM

Josh Carter is god. That is all.

Who the fuck names their kid Cookie?

18pt 2nd half comeback. Fuck the cornhuskers.

Thanks and Gig'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tonylongoriafan

02-25-2009, 08:55 AM

18pt 2nd half comeback. Fuck the cornhuskers.

Thanks and Gig'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice comeback last night :toast

Doug Collins

02-25-2009, 10:39 AM

nice comeback last night :toast

Great night. Spurs beat the mavs and the ags win at the buzzer. Couldn't ask for more.

In case people missed it:

Xg3zVPkb4Us

stretch

02-25-2009, 10:53 AM

LMAO chokelahoma

johngateswhiteley

02-25-2009, 09:52 PM

18pt 2nd half comeback. Fuck the cornhuskers.

Thanks and Gig'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

huge win...couldn't believe the comeback. if A&M wins out and wins a game or two in the tourney i think they are in.

pkbpkb81

02-25-2009, 10:06 PM

LMAO chokelahoma

yeah lmao at the team that has only 3 loses and two of them came without the best player in the country

i might find that funny if my team was fighting with st.marys for the last at large bid in the big dance too

i think its been a great year and they will get a 2 sead in a few weeks its all good

oh yeah i forgot to add i am calling your work tommrow