sons I must b!tch about David "I want MY NAME in the paper" West ....

[BRHornet45]

Call me crazy sons, but the Hornets need Tyson Chandler more than they need David West. In the last 4 games without West in the lineup, we are 3-1. West is not the same player that he was last year and it is hurting the team. Its almost as if he is trying to out shine Chris Paul at times ....

I have said it before and I will say it again, David West is a selfish ball hog and is the main reason why guys like Peja Stojokavic has struggled this season. Whenever West gets the ball, we all know that 9 times out of 10 he is not going to pass. Even if he is double or triple teamed, West would rather throw up a brick and then complain to the ref instead of hustling for the rebound. Sure ... West gets to the line, but he also holds players like Peja, Butler, and other outside shooters down whenever he refuses to pass the ball to them. How many times have we seen West double and triple teamed while Peja, Butler, etc. are standing wide ass open???

In the last 4 games without West in the lineup, the Hornets have been moving the ball around better than they have all season long. They are also suddenly more of a fast break team again without West in there slowing them down. Peja and Butler (Peja in particular) have been given damn near twice as many looks and opportunities to shoot the ball as well and look what has happened. Peja's official numbers in the last 4 games ...... 22PPG and shooting .524% ... coincidence? I don't think so. David "I want MY NAME in the paper" West needs to learn his role and stop trying to be a superstar. I swear sons ever since the playoffs last season, West thinks he is Karl Malone or something.

[ElNono]

Who cares? Either the Lakers or Spurs are kicking your sorry team's ass out of the playoff this year. Son.

[lil_penny]

West is a tool and so are you.

[BRHornet45]

Who cares? Either the Lakers or Spurs are kicking your sorry team's ass out of the playoff this year. Son.

maybe the Lakers, but the Spurs!??? LMAO

[Ghazi]

Yeah, the Spurs. Kinda like they did last year, remember?

[Findog]

We'll give you Josh Howard for him.

[ManuTP9]

BRHornet, i understand the anger built up but remmber sons, the Hornets will rise again like last year. Believe Sons, Believe

[BRHornet45]

Yeah, the Spurs. Kinda like they did last year, remember?

yea son last year has a lot to do with this year. sorry I forgot. in that case, you guys should win the championship again like 2 years ago right? since it happened then it should happen now right??

[Rogue]

We'll give you Josh Howard for him.
:yield

[BRHornet45]

BRHornet, i understand the anger built up but remmber sons, the Hornets will rise again like last year. Believe Sons, Believe

son I am not worried about them, just annoyed with West. We will be the #2 or #3 seed.

[timvp]

Sons, if I were to have a complaint about David West this year it would be his rebounding. He averages 10% less rebounds per minute than Matt Bonner. That is laughable sons.

[Ghazi]

yea son last year has a lot to do with this year. sorry I forgot. in that case, you guys should win the championship again like 2 years ago right? since it happened then it should happen now right??


Well there isn't much evidence that the Hornets are better than the Spurs this year, unless a home game where David West has to hit two bullshit fluky 3 PT shots for the Hornets to win is significant evidence. I don't think so, but to each his own God Bless.

[Findog]

West is soft.

[ElNono]

yea son last year has a lot to do with this year. sorry I forgot. in that case, you guys should win the championship again like 2 years ago right? since it happened then it should happen now right??

Actually, it should be easier to kick you guys out this year considering David West is playing like a bitch, right son?

[BRHornet45]

Well there isn't much evidence that the Hornets are better than the Spurs this year, unless a home game where David West has to hit two bullshit fluky 3 PT shots for the Hornets to win is significant evidence. I don't think so, but to each his own God Bless.

son keep whining. take those two 3's away and we still would have won the game lol

[ManuTP9]

Sons, if I were to have a complaint about David West this year it would be his rebounding. He averages 10% less rebounds per minute than Matt Bonner. That is laughable sons.

lol

[ElNono]

West is soft.

I lol'ed.

[BRHornet45]

West is soft.

he may be a selfish ball hog son, but he is far from soft. He should have knocked that hoe Dirk out last year when he had the chance. you wanna talk about soft? look at your boy Dirk .... West bitch tapped him on the chin and Dirk did nothing but look scared.

[Ghazi]

The Hornets as a team are soft. That's why they went out and got Posey, because they thought he would add "toughness".... nope, still a soft jumpshooting team that doesn't play defense.

Paul soft, Peja soft, Chandler soft, WEst soft. Dirk has more toughness in his left nut than David West does altogether :)

[Pelicans78]

I kinda agree BR, but the problem is Butler and Peja can't create their own shot either. DWest does ok against slower defenders like Gasol, but no one else can with the exception of CP3 or even Julian Wright when given the opportunity. The team is passing much better without West and West is a blackhole, but honestly that's what we ask him to do. Should he pass more? Yes. Will he? No. If he wasn't focused on his shooting, he would rebound better.

[Pelicans78]

Why doesn't a 7 fter like Dirk have a post game at this time? Why is still trying to be like his role model Matt Bullard?

[Findog]

he may be a selfish ball hog son, but he is far from soft. He should have knocked that hoe Dirk out last year when he had the chance. you wanna talk about soft? look at your boy Dirk .... West bitch tapped him on the chin and Dirk did nothing but look scared.

All Dirk did in return was torch his ass for the rest of the series. West is a fake toughie...I believe the term is fugazy. Dirk is much tougher than West, has a higher bball IQ, and is a much better player.

[Findog]

Why doesn't a 7 fter like Dirk have a post game at this time? Why is still trying to be like his role model Matt Bullard?

He has mediocre post moves. He at least worked at it. He's better being the 7-foot shooting guard that he is.

West is soft.

[Pelicans78]

He has mediocre post moves. He at least worked at it. He's better being the 7-foot shooting guard that he is.

West is soft.

So is Tony Romo.

Remember 42-17?

[Pelicans78]

All Dirk did in return was torch his ass for the rest of the series. West is a fake toughie...I believe the term is fugazy. Dirk is much tougher than West, has a higher bball IQ, and is a much better player.

But our best player is much better than yours. :toast

[Findog]

So is Tony Romo.

Remember 42-17?

:lmao

You think I give a shit about the Cowboys or Tony Romo? They suck, and I laugh my ass off when they fade every December.

That was a great post, thanks for the belly laugh.

[Pelicans78]

We still need West alot more than Chandler. Hilton is fine as a Center. He gives us more offense than Chandler.

[Rogue]

But our best player is much better than yours. :toast
our worst player is much better than CP3 that is your best player, at least he is much higher than CP3.

Isn't Josh Howard higher than CP3?

[Findog]

But our best player is much better than yours. :toast

Bron, Kobe, Wade and Duncan are 1's, or Batman

Manu, 2006 era Josh Howard, Caron Butler, Rasheed Wallace, those are 2's, or Robin.

CP3 is a 1.5, Garnett is a 1.5, Dirk is a 1.5. I'd rather have Chris Paul over Dirk because he's 6 years younger and PG has morphed into the most important position on the court, but wake me up when Paul leads a team to the Finals.

The Mavs perimeter defense has been so bad that they've been lit up in successive postseasons by Steve Nash, Wade, Baron and now CP3. They've been so bad that they almost let Tracy McGrady out of the first round in 2005. Any guard looks like a hall of famer against us. CP3 is great, but he doesn't belong in the Bron/Kobe/Duncan/Wade class. Maybe he'll get there one day, but that day is not here yet.

[Pelicans78]

our worst player is much better than CP3 that is your best player, at least he is much higher than CP3.

Isn't Josh Howard higher than CP3?

yes

[BRHornet45]

but wake me up when Paul leads a team to the Finals.


son Paul is only in his 4th year right now. Give him 10 plus years like Dirk has had to lead a team to the finals and then we will talk. Oh and Paul would finish the job unlike Dirk did .....

[Pelicans78]

If CP3 had Shaq last season, he would have gone further. I don't think D-Wade is in the class of Lebron or Kobe or Duncan.

[Findog]

son Paul is only in his 4th year right now. Give him 10 plus years like Dirk has had to lead a team to the finals and then we will talk. Oh and Paul would finish the job unlike Dirk did .....

Dirk was just fine in the Finals. You obviously didn't watch that series. No George Shinn team will ever make a Finals.

[Findog]

I don't think D-Wade is in the class of Lebron or Kobe or Duncan.

When he's healthy he is.

[ElNono]

All Dirk did in return was torch his ass for the rest of the series.

I'm fairly sure West outscored Dirk the last two games on that series. Other than that, I won't argue about West's toughness...

[Pelicans78]

When he's healthy he is.

No he's not.

[BRHornet45]

Dirk was just fine in the Finals. You obviously didn't watch that series. No George Shinn team will ever make a Finals.

LOL did he finish the job??? NO! .... Dwayne Wade and Shaq did. let me guess, you guys are still blaming the refs for that beat down Miami put on the Mavs????

[Bob Lanier]

I like that they replaced him with some guy named after a hotel chain.

[BRHornet45]

also Findog, you sissy cuckold you .... since you find it so important to bring up the past, what about that beat down we put on your pussy team last season in the playoffs? oh and what about the last time we came to Dallas this year as well? please explain.

[Bob Lanier]

When he scores, does the New Orleans announcer scream YOU HAVE RECEIVED HILTON HHONORS, SONS! ?

[Pelicans78]

When he scores, does the New Orleans announcer scream YOU HAVE RECEIVED HILTON HHONORS, SONS! ?

He's too stunned to say anything.

[Findog]

I'm fairly sure West outscored Dirk the last two games on that series. Other than that, I won't argue about West's toughness...

Dirk put up 27 and 12 against the Hornets. West put up 23 and 8 against the Mavericks.

Dirk is better, and outplayed West in that series. He was smart not to risk a suspension. West is a soft bitch. The Mavs lost that series because the Hornets as a team were much better.

[Boston Pancake]

also Findog, you sissy cuckold you .... since you find it so important to bring up the past, what about that beat down we put on your pussy team last season in the playoffs? oh and what about the last time we came to Dallas this year as well? please explain.

Look at this little cuckold bitch tryin to talk shit again. Lookit fuckstick, we all know Dallas is a trash city with shitty sports teams, but at least they don't have God trying to lay waste to the fuckin place every couple of years. Your city is a fuckin abomination and your sports teams lick balls, you cuckold ninny.

[Findog]

LOL did he finish the job??? NO! .... Dwayne Wade and Shaq did. let me guess, you guys are still blaming the refs for that beat down Miami put on the Mavs????

Dirk put up 29 and 15 in the elimination game. He was just as clutch as Wade was in G5. You didn't watch that series, and have no business commenting on it.

[Findog]

No he's not.

You don't know anything about basketball. Wade is a bona fide franchise player when he's healthy, the fourth-best player in the League.

[Ghazi]

2006 Finals were bullshit, but that's a different story. The Heat beating us by 1 point, 2 points, and 3 points in highly questionably officiated games isn't beating our ass.
:)


Findog, I'm not sure if having a PG is more important than having the aformentioned #1 option (plus a Batman) or multiple 1.5's.

I mean, the point guards last year in the Finals were Rondo and Derek frickin Fisher. They're both pretty good, but ya get my point!

[ElNono]

Bron, Kobe, Wade and Duncan are 1's, or Batman

Manu, 2006 era Josh Howard, Caron Butler, Rasheed Wallace, those are 2's, or Robin.

CP3 is a 1.5, Garnett is a 1.5, Dirk is a 1.5.

IMO, until this season, Manu was a 1.5... I know it pains you terribly that I lump him in the same category as Dirk. But that's not Manu's fault.

[Findog]

also Findog, you sissy cuckold you .... since you find it so important to bring up the past, what about that beat down we put on your pussy team last season in the playoffs? oh and what about the last time we came to Dallas this year as well? please explain.

Life is full of cycles. Before last year, we had beaten you what, 26 straight times? How many times did CP3 come into the AAC and get his little cuckold ass beat down? You hadn't beaten us since 1999 before last season. Do you want to talk about that?

[Boston Pancake]

You don't know anything about basketball. Wade is a bona fide franchise player when he's healthy, the fourth-best player in the League.

Close but not quite

1. Garnett
2. Pierce
3. LeBron
4. Jesus Shuttlesworth
5. Perkins
6. Kobe
7. Rondo
8. E-Money House
9. Wade

[Ghazi]

It's such a shame that those 2006 Finals ended the way they did (bullshit)... Dirk's shot in game over Shaq in game 5 would've been a historic moment if not for that sissy cuckold Bennett Salvatore's whistle.

[Findog]

Close but not quite

1. Garnett
2. Pierce
3. LeBron
4. Jesus Shuttlesworth
5. Perkins
6. Kobe
7. E-Money House
8. Wade

I'd put Scalabrine above Wade, but that's it.

[ElNono]

Dirk put up 27 and 12 against the Hornets. West put up 23 and 8 against the Mavericks.

Dirk is better, and outplayed West in that series. He was smart not to risk a suspension. West is a soft bitch. The Mavs lost that series because the Hornets as a team were much better.

There's no arguing that. But considering that Dirk was the only scoring in the 30's in that series, yet only averaged 4 more PPG goes to show you that he was FAR from torching West.

[Pelicans78]

Look at this little cuckold bitch tryin to talk shit again. Lookit fuckstick, we all know Dallas is a trash city with shitty sports teams, but at least they don't have God trying to lay waste to the fuckin place every couple of years. Your city is a fuckin abomination and your sports teams lick balls, you cuckold ninny.

It was just one hurricane and alot of people lost their lives and homes including my parents in Mississippi. Fortunately they were with my brothers. Go Fuck off back to your city full of racist drunks asshole

[Ghazi]

I'll tell you what got torched in that series, Josh Howard's stash. Fucking 29%, what a sissy cuckold bitch.

[Findog]

2006 Finals were bullshit, but that's a different story. The Heat beating us by 1 point, 2 points, and 3 points in highly questionably officiated games isn't beating our ass.
:)


Findog, I'm not sure if having a PG is more important than having the aformentioned #1 option (plus a Batman) or multiple 1.5's.

I mean, the point guards last year in the Finals were Rondo and Derek frickin Fisher. They're both pretty good, but ya get my point!

Paul is a very special PG, and the game is evolving into something that is faster and more up-tempo. With the handchecking rules that were put in, it makes guys like Paul even harder to stop. I don't think he will be quite as good as him when all is said and done, but Paul reminds me of Isiah Thomas.

[Findog]

There's no arguing that. But considering that Dirk was the only scoring in the 30's in that series, yet only averaged 4 more PPG goes to show you that he was FAR from torching West.

It's not like the Hornets had to worry about Kidd, Terry or Jet, they all sucked ass in that series.

[ElNono]

I'll tell you what got torched in that series, Josh Howard's stash. Fucking 29%, what a sissy cuckold bitch.

LOL, so true. And I still remember being in the Valley in south Texas before the first game and everybody was talking about him admitting that he smoked dope in the offseason... Good times!

[Pelicans78]

It's not like the Hornets had to worry about Kidd, Terry or Jet, they all sucked ass in that series.

But outside of West, who do we have that can score consistently?

[Ghazi]

Peja was on fire in that series.

[Findog]

But outside of West, who do we have that can score consistently?

Peja as a weakside spot-up shooter. Chandler on the high screen and roll. West in the two-man game with Paul. The bevy of 3-point shooters to spread the floor when defenses collapse on Paul.

[ElNono]

It's not like the Hornets had to worry about Kidd, Terry or Jet, they all sucked ass in that series.

I recall Kidd couldn't hit the side of a barn from 3 point land. He improved quite a bit in that department this year. Anyways, back to West. Yeah, he's soft. I agree with you that he's this fake tough guy. It's like an Emo. He plays the tough card, but he's all warm and fuzzy inside.

[Findog]

I recall Kidd couldn't hit the side of a barn from 3 point land. He improved quite a bit in that department this year. Anyways, back to West. Yeah, he's soft. I agree with you that he's this fake tough guy. It's like an Emo. He plays the tough card, but he's all warm and fuzzy inside.

I'm not impressed with him. He's always been injury prone, and I think Paul makes him look better than he actually is. He's a borderline All Star talent.

[dirk4mvp]

But outside of West, who do we have that can score consistently?


Why isn't Julian Wright getting more time?

[Ghazi]

Paul to players like Chandler/West is just like what D'Antoni is to Amare/Nash's stats.

[Pelicans78]

I'm not impressed with him. He's always been injury prone, and I think Paul makes him look better than he actually is. He's a borderline All Star talent.

He wasn't even a lottery pick. He's not supposed to be a superstar talent. I'm surprised he made it this far. He barely played his 1st two seasons. The guy works hard with whatever abilities he has.

[Findog]

Why isn't Julian Wright getting more time?

Byron Scott always pulls this shit with younger players. If they miss a rotation or clang a single brick, their ass gets buried on the bench.

[dirk4mvp]

Byron Scott always pulls this shit with younger players. If they miss a rotation or clang a single brick, their ass gets buried on the bench.


I'd love to have that guy on the Mavs.

[Findog]

I'd love to have that guy on the Mavs.

Why would you want a Julian Wright when we already have Devean "Championship Pedigree" George?

[Pelicans78]

Why isn't Julian Wright getting more time?

He's played more the last few games due to injuries in the frontcourt. Scott put him in the dog house due to alot of mental mistakes. He's our most athletic player, but still very young. I'm hoping he will consistently improve and be a big part of the team by the end of the season. His upside is tremendous with his ball-handling, defense, athleticism, and decent perimeter shooting.

[ElNono]

West at least has post moves. Paul single handedly turned Chandler from a complete bust (Chicago anyone?) into this guy that's money. I think the problem with West is that he thinks he's better than what he actually is. He actually has had nights when he's incredibly good. The game against the Lakers come to mind. But some nights when you're off you need to just let the game come to you and involve your teammates more. I don't think he figured that part of the game yet.

[Ghazi]

Why, he's not even good.

[ElNono]

Why would you want a Julian Wright when we already have Devean "Championship Pedigree" George?

And he sure as hell can clang them all night long. He will actually make them when it doesn't matter anymore...

[Findog]

And he sure as hell can clang them all night long. He will actually make them when it doesn't matter anymore...

He's the master at hitting at 3 with 30 seconds left when his team is on the losing end of a 3-possession game.

[dirk4mvp]

He's the master at hitting at 3 with 30 seconds left when his team is on the losing end of a 3-possession game.


Nothing wrong with stat padding :king

Watching Green rot like he's been doing is irritating.

[Findog]

Nothing wrong with stat padding :king

Watching Green rot like he's been doing is irritating.

Green doesn't play because he doesn't d up his man. Meanwhile, we gave up 134 points to Milwaukee and 74 in the first half to Boston.

[Findog]

They've got a hole at the 2-guard and they don't play Green. I accept that he is far from a polished product, and sometimes you can yank him from a game if he misses a rotation or takes a shot out of the flow of the offense, in order to make a point. But he's not going to become the answer at 2-guard if he doesn't play.

[Findog]

I mean, the guy has Tmac-level talent. And you're telling me he can't help this team when they struggle to score?

[Ghazi]

I'd like to see green get more minutes but don't really care to be honest. At the end of the day, Gerald frickin Green is not the difference between mediocrity and contender status. Then again, at this point, probably nothing is for the Mavs so might as well try to maximize the basketball product and at least have a few highlight reel dunks here and there :)

[Findog]

I'd like to see green get more minutes but don't really care to be honest. At the end of the day, Gerald frickin Green is not the difference between mediocrity and contender status. Then again, at this point, probably nothing is for the Mavs so might as well try to maximize the basketball product and at least have a few highlight reel dunks here and there :)

I'm not saying he is, but if anything, the lack of true contention means there's no excuse to avoid developing young talent. What is the point of keeping him glued to the bench?

[Ghazi]

He's our ace in the hole for the playoffs :).

[Ghazi]

One thought though, I don't think Green's even been dressing lately. is he injured?