Gerald Wallace has a collapsed lung?

[Sage]

Hi everyone.
Long time lurker, first time poster here.
I went to a bobcats forum and they were talking about a rumor stating that Wallace has a collapsed lung. It would really suck for the bobcats. Has anyone heard about it or can anyone confirm it? It it is true do you think Bynum should be suspended? (I'm not a lakers hater btw)

[Ghazi]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/breaking/story/500489.html

He may have a collapsed lung.

[mogrovejo]

Unlucky lad.

[mystargtr34]

If news gets back that he does indeed have a collapsed lung and/or fractured rib, the League might look at a harsher punishment, maybe 5 games or so.

[m33p0]

did shaq cause it when he gave wallace that bone-crunching pick?

[mystargtr34]

Bynum flagrant foul.

[Thunder Dan]

Bynum being dirty.. nothing new

[DaDakota]

WTF? That was a hard foul...

Bynum should be suspended.

DD

[sonic21]

If news gets back that he does indeed have a collapsed lung and/or fractured rib, the League might look at a harsher punishment, maybe 5 games or so.

a recovery is anywhere from a few days to a 2 weeks IF it is just a collapsed lung and not a fractured rib as well, else his season (and maybe more :() is over.

[urunobili]

video of the foul?

[SpursIndonesia]

Collapsed lung, damn, that sounds really frightening to me, it must hurt like hell, hard to breathe even modestly.

[sonic21]

video of the foul?

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[urunobili]

damn that was hard... but i don;t think it's suspension worthy... i wish a promt recover for Wallace he seems to be a cool dude

[jack sommerset]

And they say the Lakers are not tough. Ha

[tlongII]

No Gerald Wallace against us tonight? I can't say I'm disappointed...

[Cane]

Imagine if Bynum did that bullshit to Duncan. :wow

[Sportcamper]

Wallace is a hack…I can’t stand these players who charge & play with reckless abandon…Clearly Bynum was in a defensive position trying to avoid getting run over by the out of control Wallace….

[Shastafarian]

Wallace is a hack…I can’t stand these players who charge & play with reckless abandon…Clearly Bynum was in a defensive position trying to avoid getting run over by the out of control Wallace….

I would think this was satire if it has not been for the three words next to "Team" in this guy's mini-profile.

[Bruno]

I hope it will be nothing serious for Wallace.

Bynum's foul wasn't really bad but when you are that big and strong, you had to be really careful about what you did on the court because you can quickly injured players.
I think the league should suspend him for one game to send him a message.

[Sportcamper]

Wallace needs to learn to fall better…

[koriwhat]

fuck bynum!

[JoeTait75]

And they say the Lakers are not tough. Ha

They aren't. They're a bitch team. Bitch teams play dirty because they don't know how to play physical.

[Thunder Dan]

damn that was hard... but i don;t think it's suspension worthy... i wish a promt recover for Wallace he seems to be a cool dude

he didn't even try to block the shot, he was beat and just gave him a forearm

[Sportcamper]

:violin...You mess with the bull you get the horn!..:violin...

[Sage]

I hope it will be nothing serious for Wallace.

Bynum's foul wasn't really bad but when you are that big and strong, you had to be really careful about what you did on the court because you can quickly injured players.
I think the league should suspend him for one game to send him a message.

Exactly. I hope wallace will be back soon and that Bynum will understand that some fouls can have unfortunate consequences.

[IronMexican]

Hopw Wallace is alright.

[angelbelow]

damn hope his injures arent serious.

[lil_penny]

Hopefully wallace is alright.. he should probably just take tonights game off just in case though.. lol

[Trainwreck2100]

LMAO guy's facedown on the court and the fans are booing.

[Thunder Dan]

LMAO guy's facedown on the court and the fans are booing.

reminds me of opening night last year...Kobe booed in introductions, and they were chanting MVP by the 4th quarter

[IronMexican]

reminds me of opening night last year...Kobe booed in introductions, and they were chanting MVP by the 4th quarter

Bunch of poosies. I booed the whole game from the couch.

[Thunder Dan]

I'm going to the Lakers game next Sunday and I will boo Bynum

[SpursFanFirst]

That is painful to listen to!
I hope he's OK.

[GuerillaBlack]

reminds me of opening night last year...Kobe booed in introductions, and they were chanting MVP by the 4th quarter

And they lost. :)

[Lakers999]

Hi everyone.
? (I'm not a lakers hater btw)


http://www.garryconn.com/images/BullShit.gif

[Lakers999]

Bunch of poosies. I booed the whole game from the couch.

laker fan my ass!!!!!

[Lakers999]

Imagine if Bynum did that bullshit to Duncan. :wow

than all 20 hardcore spurs fans will write threatning letters to stu jackson asking for bynum head

[Hemotivo]

nice d
kobe

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

No Pain, No Game NBA is a men's league where No Boys Allowed. :rolleyes
but i hope he's alright.

[Hemotivo]

suspension worthy

[IronMexican]

laker fan my ass!!!!!

You wznt me to cheer a guy who wanted out, then wants to stay, then wants out, but is now staying. I am a Laker fan first. I have forgiven Kobe, but I was still pissed at him.

[Bruno]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcats/story/501143.html

Bobcats' Wallace has collapsed lung, broken rib

Rick Bonnell
Posted: Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009


LOS ANGELES - Charlotte Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace suffered a collapsed left lung and a broken rib in a collision with Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum in the Bobcats' 117-110 double-overtime victory Tuesday night.

According to the team, Wallace lost 30-40 percent of the capacity in his left lung. He also suffered a non-displaced fracture of the fifth rib on his left side.

Doctors at Centinela Hospital inserted a tube in Wallace's lung to help restore functional capacity. Wallace will spend at least Wednesday night in the hospital. Doctors do not anticipate releasing him before late Thursday. At that time, the Bobcats will be better prepared to decide whether Wallace would join the team on its current West Coast trip or return directly to Charlotte.

Bynum was called for a Flagrant 1 foul on the play in which Wallace was driving the lane in the fourth quarter. Bynum threw a hip-check and struck Wallace's rib cage with his right elbow.

The Bobcats will play the Trail Blazers tonight in Portland. It was unclear who coach Larry Brown would start in Wallace's place.

[timvp]

A non-Laker would get suspended for that. We'll see what happens to Bynum.

If that becomes an acceptable defensive maneuver, hopefully Kurt Thomas takes note the next time a Laker is driving down the lane . . .

[Thunder Dan]

the best is Bynum has these dirty fouls like this one last night and the one vs. Cleveland and after he does it he walks around with a sheepish look on his face and walks behind his teammates. I'd love to see someone Kermit Washington his ass to the floor

[ElNono]

I thought it should have been a Flagrant 2 when I was watching the game. Then again, the reality distortion field is in full swing at the Staples...

[IronMexican]

Damn, that sucks for Wallace.

[pawe]

How long do you think will Wallace be off the floor with a collapsed lung and a broken rib? Does a collapsed lung have any permanent longterm effects?

[JoeTait75]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcats/story/501143.html

Bobcats' Wallace has collapsed lung, broken rib

Rick Bonnell
Posted: Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009


LOS ANGELES - Charlotte Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace suffered a collapsed left lung and a broken rib in a collision with Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum in the Bobcats' 117-110 double-overtime victory Tuesday night.

According to the team, Wallace lost 30-40 percent of the capacity in his left lung. He also suffered a non-displaced fracture of the fifth rib on his left side.

Doctors at Centinela Hospital inserted a tube in Wallace's lung to help restore functional capacity. Wallace will spend at least Wednesday night in the hospital. Doctors do not anticipate releasing him before late Thursday. At that time, the Bobcats will be better prepared to decide whether Wallace would join the team on its current West Coast trip or return directly to Charlotte.

Bynum was called for a Flagrant 1 foul on the play in which Wallace was driving the lane in the fourth quarter. Bynum threw a hip-check and struck Wallace's rib cage with his right elbow.

The Bobcats will play the Trail Blazers tonight in Portland. It was unclear who coach Larry Brown would start in Wallace's place.

A "collision?" That's an interesting way of putting it.

[z0sa]

Bynum: What a douche, plain and simple. Collapsed fucking lung, my God.

[j.dizzle]

It was a freak accident how many times have u seen someone put their forearm into someones chest & they have a collapsed lung..Basketball is an aggressive game & bynum didnt want to give up 2 easy points. I doubt he wanted to actually hurt the guy. Bynum is beasting lately though..Keep that shit up big man & i love that ppl are hating on him now which means that they are seeing the real pre-injury bynum come into effect.

[Trainwreck2100]

No Pain, No Game NBA is a men's league where No Boys Allowed. :rolleyes
but i hope he's alright.

:lmao

A collapsed lung doesn't come from a basketball move, where that the case every year players would get them.

[Trainwreck2100]

It was a freak accident how many times have u seen someone put their forearm into someones chest & they have a collapsed lung..Basketball is an aggressive game & bynum didnt want to give up 2 easy points. I doubt he wanted to actually hurt the guy. Bynum is beasting lately though..Keep that shit up big man & i love that ppl are hating on him now which means that they are seeing the real pre-injury bynum come into effect.

:lol

It was a flagrant foul, people get injured when flagrant fouls occur.

[Baseline]

In last night's game, Bynum, the LA golden boy, threw a punk elbow at Wallace, a lowly Bobcat. by the way, even the Laker announcer said Bynum clearly wasn't going for the ball.

On the other hand, if Okafor had done the same to K. Bryant, Okafor would be suspended for a year.

[j.dizzle]

:lol

It was a flagrant foul, people get injured when flagrant fouls occur.

A little forearm & you get a collapsed lung & broken rib??? come on man that fool must be fragile as hell. Either that or bynum has been getting lessons from chuck norris :lol

[DrHouse]

Oh please stop with the self-righteous BS.

It was a hard foul and nothing more. Bynum had no intention of breaking his ribs or collapsing his lungs and you all know that. People get injured in the NBA sometimes, I'm sure you were all equally fumed at Horford's foul on TJ Ford right?

[j.dizzle]

In last night's game, Bynum, the LA golden boy, threw a punk elbow at Wallace, a lowly Bobcat. by the way, even the Laker announcer said Bynum clearly wasn't going for the ball.

On the other hand, if Okafor had done the same to K. Bryant, Okafor would be suspended for a year.
you must not know much aboutthe NBA cuz a few seasons ago raja bell grabbed kobe by the neck & threw him down hard..You know what he got?? A one game suspension hahaha bynum aint gettin shit for throwing a little forarm into someones chest

[Trainwreck2100]

A little forearm & you get a collapsed lung & broken rib??? come on man that fool must be fragile as hell. Either that or bynum has been getting lessons from chuck norris :lol

He's running at full force, he has no way to deflect the blow, and Bynum, instead of stepping in front of him(a basketball move), elbows him where he had no chance to stop it. I'm no doctor but it's possible the broken rib punctured the lung

[VaSpursFan]

total bitch move by Bynum. he could have fouled him without elbowing him in the chest.

[DrHouse]

:lmao at the fake indignation of Spur fan. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao at the fake indignation of Spur fan. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

:lol at the fake sympathy from Laker fan when they actually booed the call while the guy is on the floor screaming cause he has a broken rib and a collapsed lung.

[DrHouse]

Boo hoo, a broken rib and a collapsed lung. It was a freak play. Get over it.

[Trainwreck2100]

, a broken rib and a collapsed lung.

BBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Say that again i couldn't hear you.

[DrHouse]

http://users.chariot.net.au/%7Emisterx/steve/images/cry_me_a_river.jpg

[Solid D]

It was a freak accident how many times have u seen someone put their forearm into someones chest & they have a collapsed lung..Basketball is an aggressive game & bynum didnt want to give up 2 easy points. I doubt he wanted to actually hurt the guy. Bynum is beasting lately though..Keep that shit up big man & i love that ppl are hating on him now which means that they are seeing the real pre-injury bynum come into effect.

Yeah, it was a hard foul. Laker's TV broadcast lead Joel Meyers immediately recognized it as a flagrant and deservedly so. At the time, it seemed like that would seal the Lakers' fate in the game, down 5 with 2 FTs coming plus another possession. Then Larry Brown chose Raja to shoot the FTs and we all know what happened next.

[Banzai]

:lol at the fake sympathy from Laker fan when they actually booed the call while the guy is on the floor screaming cause he has a broken rib and a collapsed lung.

No one knew at the time that Wallace had a collapsed lung or a broken rib. I do agree though that booing Wallace was terrible. I do hope he gets back to the court soon. I'm expecting Bynum to be suspended for quite awhile....

[Trainwreck2100]

Believe it or not Laker fan the reason the NBA frowns upon Flagrant fouls(brace yourself cause this will blow your mind) is because when Flagrant fouls occur injuries happen. Do you honestly believe that every player who committed a Flagrant foul and injures someone meant to injure the player? Or where maybe some of those injuries accidents resulting from a flagrant foul? Most times those players still got suspended.

[ClingingMars]

fuck bynum!

[lefty]

Lakers are dirty ! :rolleyes

[ClingingMars]

http://users.chariot.net.au/%7Emisterx/steve/images/cry_me_a_river.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/deathbellstar/douchebag.jpg

[Medvedenko]

It was a hard foul and I believe in the no layup or dunk rule of thought. It's unfortunate that it happened to Wallace as he's one of my favourite players outside any Laker. Consdering Wallace will be out for at least 1 week I can see a suspension happening even though I believe it's not warranted. There was no intent to hurt, but to prevent. It's b-ball.

[DDS4]

It was a hard foul and I believe in the no layup or dunk rule of thought. It's unfortunate that it happened to Wallace as he's one of my favourite players outside any Laker. Consdering Wallace will be out for at least 1 week I can see a suspension happening even though I believe it's not warranted. There was no intent to hurt, but to prevent. It's b-ball.

Of course Bynum didn't have the intent, but what makes it bad is he didn't play the ball AT ALL.

[DrHouse]

http://users.chariot.net.au/%7Emisterx/steve/images/cry_me_a_river.jpg

[dmac]

How is Gasol's beard after the Morrison's flagarant foul?

[DPG21920]

Didnt Horford get suspended?

[FreeMason]

How can any idiot say that wasn't dirty? Bynum puts his elbow up to the dude's neck/head and sticks his hip out. That's textbook move (the hip) for wanting to fuck someone up without causing damage to yourself.

Suspend Bynum for the entire playoffs. :lol

I would love for KT to do the same exact thing to Kobe.

[FromWayDowntown]

I can't help the belief that if the situation had been precisely reversed and the foul had been put on Ariza (or worse yet, Kobe), that the Lakers fans who are trying to minimize this situation would be screaming for the offending Bobcat's head.

If I had time, I'd try to go find it, but I'm certain that Laker fans were calling for Raja Bell's head a couple of years ago and weren't so blase about the consequences of that sort of foul. (Bell was, by the way, suspended for that beauty).

I'd think that foul gets Bynum a one-game suspension and I think that's warranted here. In a league that actively encourages athletic players to aggressively drive to the rack -- dunks, after all, do tend to add excitement to the game -- it would be a travesty to send a message that a big man's choice to throw an elbow into the exposed mid-section of such players is acceptable or minimally punished. The last thing this league needs is to have its explosive players wondering whether a big man who faces no reprisals will cheap shot them at their most vulnerable.

[FromWayDowntown]

Didnt Horford get suspended?

Yes. http://www.nba.com/horford_suspended_071213.html

[Pelicans78]

Bynum definitely didn't go for the ball. I'm not saying he tried to injure Wallace, but he definitely just stuck his elbow into Wallace's chest without moving his feet or anything. Bynum was basically lazy and decided not to play defense so he just went with the hard foul. Stupid play that could have been avoided. He should get fined at least.

[DrHouse]

http://users.chariot.net.au/%7Emisterx/steve/images/cry_me_a_river.jpg

[benefactor]

http://users.chariot.net.au/%7Emisterx/steve/images/cry_me_a_river.jpg
I vote for a pinkage....

[mogrovejo]

IMO, it was more a clumsy play than a dirty play. That doesn't excuse it though; you can't just throw elbows and forearms at guys in mid-air that aren't able to protect themselves, otherwise people would just stop driving into the paint. A couple of games out in order to allow him to learn his lesson would be an appropriate disciplinary measure.

[DrHouse]

If Tim Duncan had done the same would Spur fan be as outraged? Or would they be saying the same thing Laker fan is saying right now?

I wonder...

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

What's crazy is that would have been just a regular 2 shot foul 20 years ago..type of phyical play like this happens in basketball. (not to mean getting somebody injured or anything) but maybe next time the likes of Paul Pierce, Ginobili, Parker and others that like to dive into the paint on the lakers they'll think twice and just shoot jumpshots!! im mean that some seriouis old school enforcer stuff!! :wow :nope

[Nashfan]

damn that was hard... but i don;t think it's suspension worthy... i wish a promt recover for Wallace he seems to be a cool dude

If you look at the video closely you will see that Bynum doesn't make an attempt on the ball. I think it is worth suspension.

[DrHouse]

1 day suspension at most. If they gave one to Horford I wouldn't be surprised to see them give one to Bynum. For the record I don't think Horford should have gotten a suspension.

[mogrovejo]

What's crazy is that would have been just a regular 2 shot foul 20 years ago..type of phyical play like this happens in basketball. (not to mean getting somebody injured or anything) but maybe next time the likes of Paul Pierce, Ginobili, Parker and others that like to dive into the paint on the lakers they'll think twice and just shoot jumpshots!! im mean that some seriouis old school enforcer stuff!! :wow :nope

No it would be not. Don't confuse things. The shooter maybe overprotected these days, but this was never a typical fool. If everybody starts doing this stuff, nobody will drive into the lane, it's not only about the Lakers. What Shaq did a couple of months ago to some midget (I don't remember who, but I do remember the play) was a hard old school enforcer foul. What Bynum did was over the top.

[Xylus]

I watch Raja's assault on Kobe routinely. It's like porn for me.

[to21]

If Tim Duncan had done the same would Spur fan be as outraged? Or would they be saying the same thing Laker fan is saying right now?

I wonder...Most probably would be defending his actions. However we all know TD doesn't play ball like that.

[tlongII]

Bynum's not dirty, just overrated.

[to21]

I watch Raja's assault on Kobe routinely. It's like porn for me.I think the vid's of Kobe tearing his ass up are funnier. Hate him or love him that mofo is a BEAST!!

[to21]

Oden's just overrated.

[daslicer]

No it would be not. Don't confuse things. The shooter maybe overprotected these days, but this was never a typical fool. If everybody starts doing this stuff, nobody will drive into the lane, it's not only about the Lakers. What Shaq did a couple of months ago to some midget (I don't remember who, but I do remember the play) was a hard old school enforcer foul. What Bynum did was over the top.

Lakerfans are stupid in the sense they aren't thinking about the precedent this sets down the line if Bynum isn't suspended. If Bynum can get away with doing this then you can bet there will be some other players that will attempt the same type of foul on star players like Wade,Lebron, and including Kobe. I can only imagining Lakerfans bitching and crying during the playoffs in a scenario where Kurt Thomas does the same exact move to Kobe and ends there season.

[spurastic]

What's most disturbing is all the Lakers fans falling all over themselves defending Andrew Bynum. Guess if he had pulled out a gun, laker fans would be saying---"well, Bynum had the right to protect himself and the lane". Bynum committed a fragrant foul. Period. Dumb players like Bynum don't seem to understand that there's a fine line between be a good defensive player and just being aggressive.

[Bob Lanier]

The Spurs are soft and always have been;
The Spurs and Lakers are rivals;
Spurs fans latch onto anything unordinary the Lakers do and snipe.

Bird's got to fly.

[Austin_Toros]

is it serious?
hope he doesn't miss out too much. he's having a good season

i love G-Wall. Great player. :)

[vander]

If Tim Duncan had done the same would Spur fan be as outraged? Or would they be saying the same thing Laker fan is saying right now?

I wonder...

duncan plays D with his feet, not elbows, he wouldn't be that out of position, he would never make that foul.

[BUMP]

still not sure why they called a foul

[IronMexican]

I watch Raja's assault on Kobe routinely. It's like porn for me.

:lmao
Man, you are one funny dude. I remember how pissed I was when it happened.

[hhml]

Bynum's not a dirty player. That was a flagrant for sure. But if he does get suspended, shall be it (although I don't think he should be). He was just slow to come over and was out of position to make the defensive play, so he chose the lazy way and just reached. At 50 sec in the video, it does look like he tries to reach up and block the ball just when Wallace was about to jump, but Wallace jumped too quick and he ended up being elbowed. Bynum did come over to check if he was ok afterwards. That does not look like a dirty play with the purpose to injure.

[Sage]

is it serious?
hope he doesn't miss out too much. he's having a good season

i love G-Wall. Great player. :)

Hopefully, he should be fine and back in no time. I read on ESPN that it was "only" a partly collapsed lung. It could have been much worse since in the worse cases, it can be letal within minutes.

I don't think Bynum meant to hurt but if Horford got suspended so should he.

[Rogue]

Bynum is the dirtiest motherf***er player, who the F knows who many times he has fucked his mom. It's a career-terminating injury to hurt one's lung, maybe it'll even turn to be a threat to his life. I am not a bobcats fan but I have to say some words without ego everytime the lakers show their arrogency publicly and despicably.

Bynum is good, just like his teammate Kobe. You're not a man until you commit a rape.

[debo]

I hope it will be nothing serious for Wallace.

Bynum's foul wasn't really bad but when you are that big and strong, you had to be really careful about what you did on the court because you can quickly injured players.
I think the league should suspend him for one game to send him a message.

If nothing else, that was some lazy ass defense.

[baseline bum]

It was a hard foul, somewhat dirty, but NBA = No Babies Allowed. A flagrant and a one-game suspension is plenty; this wasn't Kermit Washington laying Tomjanovic out or anything.

[Fernando TD21]

I can't help the belief that if the situation had been precisely reversed and the foul had been put on Ariza (or worse yet, Kobe), that the Lakers fans who are trying to minimize this situation would be screaming for the offending Bobcat's head.

I'd think that foul gets Bynum a one-game suspension and I think that's warranted here. In a league that actively encourages athletic players to aggressively drive to the rack -- dunks, after all, do tend to add excitement to the game -- it would be a travesty to send a message that a big man's choice to throw an elbow into the exposed mid-section of such players is acceptable or minimally punished. The last thing this league needs is to have its explosive players wondering whether a big man who faces no reprisals will cheap shot them at their most vulnerable.
+1

[DrHouse]

This thread is full of fail.

[Lakers999]

sure suspend Bynum.... doesnt change the fact that he will be back in time for playoffs ready to wipe up the spurs

[Manufan909]

Bynum's not a dirty player. That was a flagrant for sure. But if he does get suspended, shall be it (although I don't think he should be). He was just slow to come over and was out of position to make the defensive play, so he chose the lazy way and just reached. At 50 sec in the video, it does look like he tries to reach up and block the ball just when Wallace was about to jump, but Wallace jumped too quick and he ended up being elbowed. Bynum did come over to check if he was ok afterwards. That does not look like a dirty play with the purpose to injure.

Yeah and everytime Jason Terry tackles someone, he tries to help them up. It's called "acting". Not saying Bynum meant to hurt Wallace, but more than 1 game suspension is worthy.

[DrHouse]

Listening to Bobcats Pregame and they said Andrew waited at the Bobcat's team bus after the game to try and apologize to Coach Brown, the team, and was trying to find out if he could visit Gerald in the hospital. Also said Andrew's agent called Coach LB numerous times this morning expressing Andrew's concern about Gerald.

[Lakers999]

also.....

AHEM... talking about all things dirty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RDYD0EUBzY

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdxXvkMB6gA

^^^ where bowen stuck his feet under the jump shooter and the shooter lands on his foot injuring him

and finally

the best of all cheats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U

[Lakers999]

how about bowen kneeing nash below the belt....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2SDouIqtA&feature=related

ACTUALLY come to think of it... beside horry where are all the suspensions for bowen

[Lakers999]

you know i can keep this going.. with so much video of spurs players playing dirty.... care for me to continue....

IF YOU SPURS FANS!!!! feel like suspending bynum for a cheap elbow to the gut than follow your own advice and wish the same on your own players...

[ClingingMars]

LMAO @ laker fan trying to change the subject.

-Mars

[Lakers999]

how about bowen again tripping stoudamire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p29aGNsyBs&feature=related

[Flux451]

Wallace is a hack…I can’t stand these players who charge & play with reckless abandon…Clearly Bynum was in a defensive position trying to avoid getting run over by the out of control Wallace….

Wow, a totally biased comment. Next!

[Lakers999]

LMAO @ laker fan trying to change the subject.

-Mars

LMAO SPURS FANS HYPOCRiSY

[Flux451]

how about bowen again tripping stoudamire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p29aGNsyBs&feature=related

how bout that one time Kareem did a Moe (three stooges) eye poke to Moses Malone?

[Lakers999]

heres actually a compilation done by espn of bowen playing dirty.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQrKIGde7Qk

[mogrovejo]

Shaq fouled Stuckey hard and got suspended (and Shaq's foul wasn't as bad as this one).

Speights commited a similar foul over Scalabrine and got suspended.

Bynum should have been ejected and sit out for 1 or 2 games, it's that simple. I don't even understand what people are arguing? If he had malicious intent or not? I believe not, but it's immaterial - when players do boneheaded plays like this, they shall get suspended.

[Lakers999]

how bout that one time Kareem did a Moe (three stooges) eye poke to Moses Malone?

you have to go that far back for a rebuttal???????? can we stay in the same decade please....

[Lakers999]

Shaq fouled Stuckey hard and got suspended (and Shaq's foul wasn't as bad as this one).

Speights commited a similar foul over Scalabrine and got suspended.

Bynum should have been ejected and sit out for 1 or 2 games, it's that simple. I don't even understand what people are arguing? If he had malicious intent or not? I believe not, but it's immaterial - when players do boneheaded plays like this, they shall get suspended.

ya sure suspend the kid... what difference does it make?

so he misses a game against the twolves.... or the thunder.... he'll be back in time for boston and cleveland

[KaiRMD1]

Bynum's probably on steroids, that's why he hurt Wallace with an elbow that didn't look that hard. That or Wallace's lungs are made of glass. Either way, I hope Wallace has a speedy recovery, I always loved his tenacity.

[Cane]

I can see both ends of the coin. However since the flagrant resulted in a player injury the NBA will definitely lean towards sending a message against Bynum and to all players for that type of defense.

And if Bowen or any of the Spurs did exactly what Bynum did to Wallace I'd think harsher and quicker punishments would have been enacted but maybe the refs didn't want to escalate it and let Stern's execs handle it.

Imagine if Bynum broke Duncan's rib and collapsed his lung! Or Lebron, CP3, etc. Injury inducing fouls need to be kept in check.

[mogrovejo]

ya sure suspend the kid... what difference does it make?

so he misses a game against the twolves.... or the thunder.... he'll be back in time for boston and cleveland

Not everybody sees the league and basketball issues from the same self-absorbed and paranoid perspective of some Lakers fans. I'd say the exact same thing if it was a C's player or a Thunder player.

What's exactly your point? That players shouldn't be suspended when they weren't playing any big games in the near future?

[Lakers999]

Not everybody sees the league and basketball issues from the same self-absorbed and paranoid perspective of some Lakers fans. I'd say the exact same thing if it was a C's player or a Thunder player.

What's exactly your point? That players shouldn't be suspended when they weren't playing any big games in the near future?


true not everyone else see the game from some self paranoid hipocritic view of spurs fans... calling one thing dirty is fine, suspending a player is fine... but blaming the whole team and the player himself dirty or in spurs language "bitches" is just asinine..... take a good long hard look at your spurs team and tell yourself... have these guys played with dignity, repect, and respect for their opponets.....

ya i thought so...


also

why else suspend a player? i really see no point in this unless he broke an NBA rule or went completely awol like stephon marbury. i guess suspending them for bad behavior during playoffs is fine but these "flangrants" have been hashed and rehashed in the 70's - 80's so much that it was just a 2 shot foul.... the league has been pussified, people pay to see these players play not some scrub filling in for a suspended player

[Lakers999]

. Injury inducing fouls need to be kept in check.

i am all for that .... may we start with bruce bowen?

[Cane]

i am all for that .... may we start with bruce bowen?

Sure. I don't think Bowen broke any ribs or collapsed any Jazz players' lung so he's fine. Bynum, we'll see but the NBA should keep injury inducing fouls in check.

And if any Spurs player pulled a flagrant like Bynum did, I'd think they'd get ejected/suspended nearly right away, especially Bowen :toast

Hell, Lakers fans and Andrew Bynum should know what being injured is like and whether the intention was there or not its a shoddy deal for Wallace.

[ClingingMars]

LMAO SPURS FANS HYPOCRiSY

no one gives a shit about Bowen, he's never punctured anyone's lungs. stop changing the goddamn subject you fucking dumbass.

[mogrovejo]

true not everyone else see the game from some self paranoid hipocritic view of spurs fans... calling one thing dirty is fine, suspending a player is fine... but blaming the whole team and the player himself dirty or in spurs language "bitches" is just asinine..... take a good long hard look at your spurs team and tell yourself... have these guys played with dignity, repect, and respect for their opponets.....

ya i thought so...


also

why else suspend a player? i really see no point in this unless he broke an NBA rule or went completely awol like stephon marbury. i guess suspending them for bad behavior during playoffs is fine but these "flangrants" have been hashed and rehashed in the 70's - 80's so much that it was just a 2 shot foul.... the league has been pussified, people pay to see these players play not some scrub filling in for a suspended player

I'm not a Spurs fan.

I never called Bynum dirty. I've stated several times that I believe that he was more clumsy than malicious on that play.

Have you read and understood the two previous sentences? And frankly, why does it matter? We're talking about Bynum's foul, who we are and what we think about other issues doesn't matter.

Were you watching basketball in the 70s and in the 80s or are you just repeating what was written somewhere else? Throwing your elbow, hand, forearm, or whatever part of your body at someone in midair without attempting to play the ball was never a mere shooting foul, in any decade or any league. I agree the shooter, and the offensive player in general, is over-protected in the NBA these days, but let's not confuse things.

Why are players punished? Is that a serious question? Have you ever thought what would happen if players could start making this kind of fouls without being afraid of punishment? It would take 3 days before every shot taken was a 10 ft jumper. Suspensions are there as a disincentive to a certain behavior, it's that simple.

Just out of curiosity, what would be your position if it was Kobe instead of Gerald Wallace?

[ClingingMars]

I'm not a Spurs fan.

I never called Bynum dirty. I've stated several times that I believe that he was more clumsy than malicious on that play.

Have you read and understood the two previous sentences? And frankly, why does it matter? We're talking about Bynum's foul, who we are and what we think about other issues doesn't matter.

Were you watching basketball in the 70s and in the 80s or are you just repeating what was written somewhere else? Throwing your elbow, hand, forearm, or whatever part of your body at someone in midair without attempting to play the ball was never a mere shooting foul, in any decade or any league. I agree the shooter, and the offensive player in general, is over-protected in the NBA these days, but let's not confuse things.

Why are players punished? Is that a serious question? Have you ever thought what would happen if players could start making this kind of fouls without being afraid of punishment? It would take 3 days before every shot taken was a 10 ft jumper. Suspensions are there as a disincentive to a certain behavior, it's that simple.

Just out of curiosity, what would be your position if it was Kobe instead of Gerald Wallace?

yeah, you're just gonna have to ignore him, he's a dumbass Laker troll just like House. seems like IronMexico is the only sane Laker fan left, even 55 went nuts.

[Lakers999]

I'm not a Spurs fan.

fine taunting a player when they are coming up the court or showboating when they have a 40 point lead can injure plenty of egos:rolleyes


I never called Bynum dirty. I've stated several times that I believe that he was more clumsy than malicious on that play.

dont downplay the foul.. he knew what he was doing. he fouled a player so he wont get the easy bucket just like so many players int the league does it just so happens someone got hurt and now you are asking for his head


Have you read and understood the two previous sentences? And frankly, why does it matter? We're talking about Bynum's foul, who we are and what we think about other issues doesn't matter.

ya talk about bynum foul all you want that hasnt been repeated in the previous 5 pages. other issues does matter when you want reprucussions of one rival while you let the other player go scott free.... just like morrison hard foul on pau gasol.... care to suspend him too


Were you watching basketball in the 70s and in the 80s

70's-- no 80's yes however i watched numerous amounts of film on 70's ball


or are you just repeating what was written somewhere else? Throwing your elbow, hand, forearm, or whatever part of your body at someone in midair without attempting to play the ball was never a mere shooting foul, in any decade or any league.

you gotta be fucking kidding me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7r6vXeOfyQ

you as a boston fan should know that mchale played the rest of the game and rambis scored his 2 shots FT


I agree the shooter, and the offensive player in general, is over-protected in the NBA these days, but let's not confuse things.

something i have already said and you agree thank you


Why are players punished? Is that a serious question? Have you ever thought what would happen if players could start making this kind of fouls without being afraid of punishment? It would take 3 days before every shot taken was a 10 ft jumper. Suspensions are there as a disincentive to a certain behavior, it's that simple.

no there was a time in the league where they werent suspended on such hard fouls like the one last night... it ruins the game.. ruins the fact a really good player has to sit because of a mistake he prolly regrets or never meant to make in the first place...the league needs to ease up on that... and I believe the only way to punish a player is in his pocketbook i.e. steph marburry


Just out of curiosity, what would be your position if it was Kobe instead of Gerald Wallace?

make a thread about bitch piss and moan but kobe will be back just like G wallace

[Lakers999]

I'm not a Spurs fan.

I never called Bynum dirty. I've stated several times that I believe that he was more clumsy than malicious on that play.

Have you read and understood the two previous sentences? And frankly, why does it matter? We're talking about Bynum's foul, who we are and what we think about other issues doesn't matter.

Were you watching basketball in the 70s and in the 80s or are you just repeating what was written somewhere else? Throwing your elbow, hand, forearm, or whatever part of your body at someone in midair without attempting to play the ball was never a mere shooting foul, in any decade or any league. I agree the shooter, and the offensive player in general, is over-protected in the NBA these days, but let's not confuse things.

Why are players punished? Is that a serious question? Have you ever thought what would happen if players could start making this kind of fouls without being afraid of punishment? It would take 3 days before every shot taken was a 10 ft jumper. Suspensions are there as a disincentive to a certain behavior, it's that simple.

Just out of curiosity, what would be your position if it was Kobe instead of Gerald Wallace?


no one gives a shit about Bowen, he's never punctured anyone's lungs. stop changing the goddamn subject you fucking dumbass.


yeah he only injured ankles, kicked someone in the groin, and trips players while they enter the lane

like i said you are dumbest dumbass on this forum

[Lakers999]

Sure. I don't think Bowen broke any ribs or collapsed any Jazz players' lung so he's fine. Bynum, we'll see but the NBA should keep injury inducing fouls in check.

And if any Spurs player pulled a flagrant like Bynum did, I'd think they'd get ejected/suspended nearly right away, especially Bowen :toast

Hell, Lakers fans and Andrew Bynum should know what being injured is like and whether the intention was there or not its a shoddy deal for Wallace.

however horry kind of pulled a men flangrant in 07 that provoked amare and bell which suspended them for a pivotal game 5


:toast

[Lakers999]

yeah, you're just gonna have to ignore him, he's a dumbass Laker troll just like House. seems like IronMexico is the only sane Laker fan left, even 55 went nuts.

you are just the dumbest dumbass this spurs board has to offer

[ClingingMars]

however horry kind of pulled a men flangrant in 07 that provoked amare and bell which suspended them for a pivotal game 5


:toast

and he was promptly suspended as well. :lol

[ClingingMars]

you are just the dumbest dumbass this spurs board has to offer

and you're a dumbass Laker troll who thinks Kobe is god, but please, keep spewing your bullshit :toast

[BUMP]

bynum shouldve fallen on top of Wallace while he was on the ground and collapsed his other lung.

still dont wee why they called the foul

[IronMexican]

yeah, you're just gonna have to ignore him, he's a dumbass Laker troll just like House. seems like IronMexico is the only sane Laker fan left, even 55 went nuts.

According to Lakers999, I am not a Laker fan cause I don't like Kobe enough.

[Purple & Gold]

A tough hard foul by Bynum. It's a shame Wallace got hurt, but that's what happens when you just try to fly into a crowded basketball lane. Bynum just tried to stop an easy bucket and accidentally caught him in a dangerous spot. The flagrant was warranted and a game suspension is warranted because of the injury. Nothing malicious here at all. This will make players think twice before they try to just crash towards the hoop against the Lakers. And any fan of a team that has Bowen on it should just STFU. You guys all look like crybaby hypocrites scared of the Lakeshow and their new big man. Suck it spurs fans.

[TheMACHINE]

it was a hard foul. Flagrant, yes...its not like he clotheslined his head. You guys said the Lakers are soft. Well, this is what you get.

[Lakers999]

According to Lakers999, I am not a Laker fan cause I don't like Kobe enough.

NO according to your non chalant semi quasi love for spurs fans and the lakers.... for ex: "I should support what spurs fans say about my team" even though they may totally be in the wrong cas i wanted to be accepted by everyone on this board" is the reason why you are not a laker fan....

[DrHouse]

It's incredible how many gay threads were spawned by pussies because of this.

[Lakers999]

it was a hard foul. Flagrant, yes...its not like he clotheslined his head. You guys said the Lakers are soft. Well, this is what you get.

no this is not what you get... it was a mistake bynum made. the lakers are much more classier than this.... we dont have to resort to San antonio style basketball to win games

[ezau]

The Lakers now have their own Bowen, only deadlier. :depressed

[IronMexican]

NO according to your non chalant semi quasi love for spurs fans and the lakers.... for ex: "I should support what spurs fans say about my team" even though they may totally be in the wrong cas i wanted to be accepted by everyone on this board" is the reason why you are not a laker fan....

Huh? Speak english, brah. And sorry I don't swing off of Kobe's nuts.

[That's Funked Up]

It's incredible how many gay threads were
because of this.


you mean like this one
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115524




nice work pussy

Y8KMC6L0CHo

[DrHouse]

http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/bowenkick2.jpg

[Def Rowe]

^^^ Excellent defense.

[ezau]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00gl28d4bu5e7/340x.jpg

This is what it takes to destroy another player's ribs and lung

[ezau]

nah, this is better. Check this out

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00gl28d4bu5e7/340x.jpg

do you i have to mention that it's enough to break a rib and collapse a lung?

[Sage]

no this is not what you get... it was a mistake bynum made. the lakers are much more classier than this.... we dont have to resort to San antonio style basketball to win games

Bynum was classy enough to apologize.

[21_Blessings]

A strong gust of wind could give Gerald Wallace a concussion.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

A strong gust of wind could give Gerald Wallace a concussion.

He didn't get a concussions 21 retards.

[Lakers999]

Huh? Speak english, brah. And sorry I don't swing off of Kobe's nuts.

i said it clear as a day.... you just dont have anything to say cas im right...

[Lakers999]

nah, this is better. Check this out

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00gl28d4bu5e7/340x.jpg

do you i have to mention that it's enough to break a rib and collapse a lung?



so he was trying to push him out of shooting accuracy 2 shot foul.... your gonna actually sit their and argue that bynum is the only player that does this?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

so he was trying to push him out of shooting accuracy 2 shot foul.... your gonna actually sit their and argue that bynum is the only player that does this?

He most deffinitely is the only player who's caused another one a collapsed lung, so yea.

[pauls931]

Did someone say elbow?

http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nba/2001/0214/photo/a_malone2_i.jpg

http://www.makingpages.org/hoops/Malone.danger.html

[sribb43]

rYzcIvwAboE

[stretch]

LMAO its soon going to turn into UTSA part 2

[BUMP]

He didn't get a concussions 21 retards.

actually yeah he did you anas licking, father fellating retard midget faggot

[ClingingMars]

A tough hard foul by Bynum. It's a shame Wallace got hurt, but that's what happens when you just try to fly into a crowded basketball lane. Bynum just tried to stop an easy bucket and accidentally caught him in a dangerous spot. The flagrant was warranted and a game suspension is warranted because of the injury. Nothing malicious here at all. This will make players think twice before they try to just crash towards the hoop against the Lakers. And any fan of a team that has Bowen on it should just STFU. You guys all look like crybaby hypocrites scared of the Lakeshow and their new big man. Suck it spurs fans.

you say that a suspension is warranted, and yet when we call for the same, you call us "crybabies"?

[ClingingMars]

http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/bowenkick2.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao

did ANY of Bowen's "victims" go to the hospital? What is in the water in LA?

[z0sa]

^ thats the most badass basketball foul of all time .. thanks for posting.

[BUMP]

^ thats the most badass basketball foul of all time .. thanks for posting.

actually this is. . . . . . .

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YWT7uGfZ0d0/RkVUANYdMWI/AAAAAAAAADE/Yrhk2Ph9-JQ/s320/Karl%2520Malone%2520and%2520Tim%2520Duncan.jpg

killed two faggots with one dildo

[Sportcamper]

Are Spurs fans still milking that mild bump by Bynum…Get over it already!

Better yet look at the replay…Bynum barely touched him & Andrew tried to help Wallace up…Nobody was more surprised by the injury than Bynum…:rolleyes

[DrHouse]

It's hilarious how butt hurt the Spur fan is after continually getting beaten by the Lakers. They just can't get over losing.

[z0sa]

I'm a bandwagoner.

[z0sa]

actually this is. . . . . . .

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YWT7uGfZ0d0/RkVUANYdMWI/AAAAAAAAADE/Yrhk2Ph9-JQ/s320/Karl%2520Malone%2520and%2520Tim%2520Duncan.jpg

killed two faggots with one dildo

karl needs a dildo since his dick is too small to lead a team to the title

[ClingingMars]

It's hilarious how butt hurt the Laker fan is after one of their player makes a mistake. They just can't get over it.

[DPG21920]

In all seriousness, it was a bad foul, but they happen. It sucks that Wallace got that hurt, but I do not think Bynum is dirty. Just a bad mistake on his part.

[Sportcamper]

Clearly Baby Bynum was trying to protect himself from a viscous charge by an older, more experienced & aggressive player…

[TheNextGen]

hey guys. After seeing so many threads about this topic, i decided to go to youtube and check out what happened. Honestly, i was expecting far worst, especially hearing about a collapse lung. I've seen worst collisions before. It looks like a normal hard foul, that unfortunately injured Wallace.

Flagrant? Yes.

Suspension? Probably

Dirty? I dont think so.

Outcome? Probably will help Bynum in the long term to get out of his pussy stage

[The Franchise]

That was pretty dirty. He didn't even try to go for the ball.

[timvp]

Bynum not suspended.

[Findog]

Bynum not suspended.

Can you explain to me how you can get a foul upgraded to an F2 but not get suspended? Because I have three examples of a Mavericks player getting a post-game upgrade to an F2 and having to sit out the next one.

[timvp]

Can you explain to me how you can get a foul upgraded to an F2 but not get suspended? Because I have three examples of a Mavericks player getting a post-game upgrade to an F2 and having to sit out the next one.


"I wish every Finals could be Lakers against Lakers."

[DrHouse]

:lmao at small market fan complex

[manufor3]

Lakers fans: If our players injure someone its ok, oh your player did? SUPSENSION!!!

[Rogue]

Kobe has never been suspended for raping a kid, so it's no wonder Bynum is still miles away from justice.

Kobe is ahead of Bynum on the way to hell.

[Spurs Brazil]

Bobcats' Wallace discharged

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3873008

[mavsfan1000]

If you look at the video closely you will see that Bynum doesn't make an attempt on the ball. I think it is worth suspension.
Over 2 years without a post? :depressed

[Dr House]

:lmao at small market fan complex

who is this imposter?

[Kai]

wtf super necro.