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lil_penny
01-29-2009, 06:17 PM
West:Los Angeles Lakers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/lal/;_ylt=ApO8P9t29yLeOVDHSTD12EbTjdIF)’ Pau Gasol (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3513/;_ylt=Av44R3CX_xFTz23m5ePXUsrTjdIF), New Orleans Hornets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/nor/;_ylt=Agdh3KanqL94pg_iepa796bTjdIF)’ David West (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3721/;_ylt=Ase1pkWt.KQHvO_FZ2Y7.jTTjdIF), Dallas Mavericks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/dal/;_ylt=AqFdesc3Om6iu5Ij0H7k88vTjdIF)’ Dirk Nowitzki (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3252/;_ylt=AjWtEtwtCtW9LgO5NsetNpTTjdIF), San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/;_ylt=Al8CDVKYPHkdmI6Ir8fG4pDTjdIF)’ Tony Parker (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3527/;_ylt=AgaGfI2ZnzBE_rfrrJ3ShDzTjdIF), Denver Nuggets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/den/;_ylt=Apgi3d6fZ2FO9HmaNnP6NsPTjdIF)’ Chauncey Billups (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3174/;_ylt=An3qLd4ROJWObQOQ63lurD_TjdIF) and Portland Trail Blazers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/por/;_ylt=AqNZEGW7y7q6VGwUG2dY1FfTjdIF)’ Brandon Roy (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4134/;_ylt=Ak2.VJCtuuKXhMeqVszNMu_TjdIF).



East: two Orlando Magic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/orl/;_ylt=AhFZ10xVfFzGuJCKDunLe1bTjdIF), Jameer Nelson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3837/;_ylt=As3nKTQLXpjIYocDiI6vJQPTjdIF) and Rashard Lewis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3275/;_ylt=AvaPUBvul5KvYmne.v18L83TjdIF). East coaches also chose the Boston Celtics (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/bos/;_ylt=Au9VRD8nmShHM.OakbSLDm3TjdIF)’ Paul Pierce (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3253/;_ylt=AhFEjfg.Yze2BgceEuuDnALTjdIF), Atlanta Hawks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/atl/;_ylt=Agx2PA9fZjMMVnD0bLVjNT3TjdIF)’ Joe Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3520/;_ylt=AkntjxBH15Dm1_V_cg0npCTTjdIF), Toronto Raptors (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/tor/;_ylt=AtdM_D5Seghoeo7hBf0I8XrTjdIF)’ Chris Bosh (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3707/;_ylt=AsZOfgNJs2M6L.FK4pzshHvTjdIF), New Jersey Nets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/njn/;_ylt=ApRGWH_hDAW3kynumj4xrGvTjdIF)’ Devin Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3822/;_ylt=AsoIjQYreXBvrKxbML0AfgjTjdIF) and Indiana Pacers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/ind/;_ylt=AkHEx19gipzEkZshnCr3xYXTjdIF)’ Danny Granger (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3943/;_ylt=AtiPANuuyMAJFENYRbcXdDXTjdIF).

BlackSwordsMan
01-29-2009, 06:19 PM
no bowen?

Thunder Dan
01-29-2009, 06:20 PM
Cavs with the best record in the league and they only get 1 All Star

21_Blessings
01-29-2009, 06:20 PM
Nash goes from fake two time MVP to non-all-star. Finally, all is right in the world.

Flight3107
01-29-2009, 06:25 PM
Kidd ?

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 06:25 PM
sons as a Hornets fan I am not happy about David "I want MY NAME in the paper" West making the team.... the last thing that selfish bastard needs is an ego boost like this. Hornets fans .... enjoy the fast pace playing, team chemistry, and great ball movement while it last. Because once West is back in the lineup, Peja and Butler will be limited thanks to West taking 20 shots a game while being double and triple teamed trying to be the star.

Medvedenko
01-29-2009, 06:40 PM
No Bynum....hmmmm.... :)

JoeTait75
01-29-2009, 06:41 PM
Cavs with the best record in the league and they only get 1 All Star

That's okay. More rest, more motivation.

sonic21
01-29-2009, 06:41 PM
kobe, shaq and PJ that will be interesting

Trainwreck2100
01-29-2009, 06:41 PM
No Bynum....hmmmm.... :)

No Gerald Wallace either which is good because if he was selected he probably couldn't make it anyway.

Medvedenko
01-29-2009, 06:42 PM
I think the Diesel made it as well.
Kobe, Shaq and Phil....

tlongII
01-29-2009, 06:48 PM
Tough break for DWill...

tlongII
01-29-2009, 06:48 PM
Mo Williams also...

Brickhouse
01-29-2009, 06:52 PM
David West???????

Lewis AND Nelson???

mogrovejo
01-29-2009, 06:52 PM
Cavs with the best record in the league and they only get 1 All Star

How do you define the best record? I thought it was defined by winning %. Anyway, I agree, they should have called more Cavs players.

JamStone
01-29-2009, 06:55 PM
Cavs with the best record in the league and they only get 1 All Star

That's because without that 1 star, the Cavs would be like 7th in the Eastern Conference let alone like 17th in the league.

Mo Williams has a case, but not over Nelson or Devin Harris, and it's just stupid that Iverson is starting when he doesn't deserve to be an all star this year. Still a fan of Iverson, but I realize his name and reputation with his loyal fans got him the start. Until they change the rules, stuff like that happens.

balli
01-29-2009, 06:56 PM
:td

sribb43
01-29-2009, 06:59 PM
David West is not an all-star

timtonymanu
01-29-2009, 07:21 PM
Al Jefferson got snubbed. Why the hell is David West on there?

lurker
01-29-2009, 07:23 PM
New Jersey Nets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/njn/;_ylt=ApRGWH_hDAW3kynumj4xrGvTjdIF)’ Devin Harris (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3822/;_ylt=AsoIjQYreXBvrKxbML0AfgjTjdIF) Cue Avery Johnson patting himself on the back for a job well done.

Findog
01-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Considering there's always a deserving guy or two left off makes it all the more maddening that West got in there. West would make a great third option on a championship team. If he's your best guy or #2 option, you're fucked.

Armando
01-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Ray Allen got snubbed. No way does Johnson or Harris deserve to make it over him.

Armando
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
Considering there's always a deserving guy or two left off makes it all the more maddening that West got in there. West would make a great third option on a championship team. If he's your best guy or #2 option, you're fucked.



LaMarcus Aldridge would have been a better pick.

DPG21920
01-29-2009, 07:26 PM
Dirk should have been in over Amare, Al Jefferson over West.

Ray Allen should have been in as well.

Armando
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Dirk should have been in over Amare, Al Jefferson over West.

Ray Allen should have been in as well.



Agree about Ray. Now Dirk over Amare,Jefferson and West not at all.

DPG21920
01-29-2009, 07:28 PM
Amare has sucked so bad this year along with West. Neither are deserving and Dirk clearly owns Amare and Jefferson clearly owns West, how can you not agree?

lurker
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
Ray Allen got snubbed. No way does Johnson or Harris deserve to make it over him.
Devin averages more points and assists. What makes Ray more deserving?

DPG21920
01-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Devin averages more points and assists. What makes Ray more deserving?

That is tough between Ray and Devin, but the stats clearly do not tell the whole story. Ray Allen is leading the defending champs in scoring and he has many more guys who can get their stats. Harris only has Carter, so naturally he will take more shots.

If you have watched the games, Ray Allen has has a fantastic year.

Armando
01-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Devin averages more points and assists. What makes Ray more deserving?



IDK maybe because his team are the defending champs and he is having a great season. Boston should have thier Big 3 in the game.

Findog
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
LaMarcus Aldridge would have been a better pick.

Absolutely. Aldridge is already a better player than West.

Armando
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
I am surprise they left off Carmelo even with his injury.

Armando
01-29-2009, 07:37 PM
The coaches blew it with some of the reserves. The fans did a better job picking the Starters.

mogrovejo
01-29-2009, 07:46 PM
That is tough between Ray and Devin, but the stats clearly do not tell the whole story. Ray Allen is leading the defending champs in scoring and he has many more guys who can get their stats. Harris only has Carter, so naturally he will take more shots.

If you have watched the games, Ray Allen has has a fantastic year.

True. Easily the best offensive player for the C's this season. He's averaging 50fg% / 403pt% /90 ft% - something only 9 players in the history of the league did.

So, for those reasons, he certainly deserves some rest and a cruise with his family.

lurker
01-29-2009, 07:57 PM
That is tough between Ray and Devin, but the stats clearly do not tell the whole story. Ray Allen is leading the defending champs in scoring and he has many more guys who can get their stats. Harris only has Carter, so naturally he will take more shots.

If you have watched the games, Ray Allen has has a fantastic year.
Pierce is leading the Celtics in scoring.

I'm not knocking Ray, I think he's a very good player and he's one of the only Celtics I don't want to punch in the mouth. I just don't agree that he should be in over Devin Harris. It shouldn't be held against Devin that New Jersey has no other options besides VC.

DPG21920
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
Pierce is leading the Celtics in scoring.

I'm not knocking Ray, I think he's a very good player and he's one of the only Celtics I don't want to punch in the mouth. I just don't agree that he should be in over Devin Harris. It shouldn't be held against Devin that New Jersey has no other options besides VC.

My apologies, you are right, Pierce is avg 18.8 and Ray 18. I thought it was the other way around. That does not take away from the impact Ray has had. Like I said, it is tough, but that is when I feel winning comes into play.

dirk4mvp
01-29-2009, 08:02 PM
Rashard Lewis :tu

spursnatic
01-29-2009, 08:04 PM
No Bynum....hmmmm.... :) Gaysol shouldn't have made it either....:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::flag:

mogrovejo
01-29-2009, 08:08 PM
Ray is having a better season, at least offensively, than Pierce. More consistent, less turnover prone and amazingly efficient. He's 7th on the league in TS%, that's fantastic for a guard.

pauls931
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Nash goes from fake two time MVP to non-all-star. Finally, all is right in the world.

Didn't you get thumbed twice by the fake MVP? Oh wait once, and kobe gave up the 2nd time. hehe

mystargtr34
01-29-2009, 08:25 PM
Absolutely. Aldridge is already a better player than West.

I think West is better than Aldridge. More versatile, can score on the block take you off the dribble and hit from outside.

Aldridge is a bit one dimensional to be an All-Star IMO. A little soft too.

Neither does much other than score, although West is still probly a better rebounder.

IronMexican
01-29-2009, 08:29 PM
Jefferson>West.

sook
01-29-2009, 08:29 PM
sons as a Hornets fan I am not happy about David "I want MY NAME in the paper" West making the team.... the last thing that selfish bastard needs is an ego boost like this. Hornets fans .... enjoy the fast pace playing, team chemistry, and great ball movement while it last. Because once West is back in the lineup, Peja and Butler will be limited thanks to West taking 20 shots a game while being double and triple teamed trying to be the star.

i agree with you hornet, ball movement looks way better on the hornets, he is way over rated anyways

lurker
01-29-2009, 08:37 PM
Nash is probably relieved. :lol He gets to enjoy the All-Star parties and not have to play.

vicphoenix13
01-29-2009, 08:42 PM
Nash goes from fake two time MVP to non-all-star. Finally, all is right in the world.


Who cares? Why are you still complaining about his MVP's? You don't want to give him any credit for being a top point guard. Nash is currently 12th alltime in assists and will be top 7 by the time his career is over. He is third alltime in free throw percentage. And he is sixth alltime in three point shooting percentage.

vicphoenix13
01-29-2009, 08:45 PM
Nash is probably relieved. :lol He gets to enjoy the All-Star parties and not have to play.

That's true. Nash doesn't really care about the allstar game.

endrity
01-29-2009, 08:45 PM
Ray should be in, instead of Pierce. I also don't know if both Nelson and Lewis deserve it. To me the Magic's second most important is Turkoglu. He does most of the ballhandling, and in the clutch he always has the ball in his hands for the Magic. So I would take him over Lewis, and in fact even Carter has had a better season this year.

Even though he was injured for a while i think Calderon is way better than Nelson, especially as a PG and neither is a great defender. The Raptors look so much better with Calderon back, and his assist/to ratio is off the charts.

Ghazi
01-29-2009, 09:07 PM
I'm not sure why David West got in. 20/7, not great numbers for an "all star PF". I think Booz and Melo getting injured helped, but jeez Jefferson and Aldridge would've been better choices.

It may be out of respect to the Hornets record.

j-money24
01-29-2009, 09:10 PM
mo williams clearly deserves a spot
i dont like how orlando got 3 all-stars.
and david west dont deserve one.

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 09:20 PM
Aldridge is not a better player than David West. West has abused him this season, especially the last game in Portland. Aldridge is no match for West and West can definitely guard him. That said, Al Jefferson has a case over West except his team has a bad record. Still Jefferson has better numbers across the board. Shaq is another question mark. He doesn't play every game. I agree about Ray Allen. He should have made it.

Findog
01-29-2009, 09:30 PM
I think West is better than Aldridge. More versatile, can score on the block take you off the dribble and hit from outside.

Aldridge is a bit one dimensional to be an All-Star IMO. A little soft too.

Neither does much other than score, although West is still probly a better rebounder.

You may be right, but Aldridge is much younger and has a much higher ceiling. And I don't think he's soft. West is soft. And Aldridge is more of a team-oriented guy than West, who hunts for shots and seems a little too concerned about his touches.

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 09:31 PM
Jefferson has played center all season. It's between him and Shaq, not West. West was actually the 3rd forward to make it behind Gasol and Dirk. If anything, you could make a case for another forward like Millsaps. Unfortunately for Millsaps, he doesn't have a PG who can carry his teams to victory.

Findog
01-29-2009, 09:32 PM
At the very least Al Jefferson deserves it over West. But team records factor heavily...the Hornets are good, the T-pups suck.

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 09:32 PM
Aldridge is pretty soft. He's perimeter oriented. He doesn't like to play with his back to the basket even though he's bigger than alot of the forwards guarding him. West is usually smaller than the PFs guarding him so he has to face them up and shoot or drive to the basket.

Findog
01-29-2009, 09:32 PM
Jefferson has played center all season. It's between him and Shaq, not West. West was actually the 3rd forward to make it behind Gasol and Dirk. If anything, you could make a case for another forward like Millsaps. Unfortunately for Millsaps, he doesn't have a PG who can carry his teams to victory.

It's the All Star game. I don't believe you have to hold to strict definitions of a 5 or 4, 2 or 1. Just divide them into wings and bigs. Nobody is playing defense in this game anyway.

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 09:37 PM
It's the All Star game. I don't believe you have to hold to strict definitions of a 5 or 4, 2 or 1. Just divide them into wings and bigs. Nobody is playing defense in this game anyway.

Suppose your right. But does Shaq really deserve to make it over West? I think West has done alot more this season than Shaq. Again, I wouldn't argue Jefferson over West as a player this season. Jefferson has had a great season. I'm happy West made it, but I would understand if Jefferson made it instead.

tlongII
01-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Aldridge is not soft and he plays great defense. He had a sub-par November so I still don't he deserved it though. Next year he'll be in.

sook
01-29-2009, 10:03 PM
Aldridge is not soft and he plays great defense. He had a sub-par November so I still don't he deserved it though. Next year he'll be in.

Aldridge can't sniff Al Jefferson, stop sippn kool-aid

Rapper
01-29-2009, 10:23 PM
Gary Payton is being upset

tlongII
01-29-2009, 10:24 PM
Aldridge can't sniff Al Jefferson, stop sippn kool-aid

I'd take LaMarcus over Big Al any day. That's not to say that Big Al isn't a good player, because he definitely is. He doesn't play any D though.

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 10:30 PM
I'd take LaMarcus over Big Al any day. That's not to say that Big Al isn't a good player, because he definitely is. He doesn't play any D though.

Really? You think Aldridge's upside is really that great? There's a reason why his stock wasn't that great as it should have been in the draft. Jefferson seems to have more physical tools. He just plays more like a beast.

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 10:36 PM
sons you all know that I am not a big fan of David West, but I am happy for the Hornets to have 2 players in the All Star game for the 2nd year in a row. However with that said, I am not blind. I believe that if David West played for the Thunder, then he would not have made the All Star team this year OR last year. If Kevin Durant played for the Hornets, he would have probably made the All Star team this year.

Do I think that David West is overrated? of course, I think any of you who know me by now understand I feel that way, but to be honest damn near every player can be considered overrated ... it just depends on who your favorite team is to determine that lol. Do I think David West is an NBA All Star player? YES .... BUT.... at the bottom of the roster as one of those guys who "barely" make the All Star team. West is extremely talented, but he is way too inconsistent and only has "stand out" type of games once every 5-7 games. He is selfish as a player, always tries to do WAY too much to be the star, whines to the refs all the time instead of hustling for rebounds, and has a low basketball IQ.

Brazil
01-29-2009, 10:42 PM
sons you all know that I am not a big fan of David West, but I am happy for the Hornets to have 2 players in the All Star game for the 2nd year in a row. However with that said, I am not blind. I believe that if David West played for the Thunder, then he would not have made the All Star team this year OR last year. If Kevin Durant played for the Hornets, he would have probably made the All Star team this year.

Do I think that David West is overrated? of course, I think any of you who know me by now understand I feel that way, but to be honest damn near every player can be considered overrated ... it just depends on who your favorite team is to determine that lol. Do I think David West is an NBA All Star player? YES .... BUT.... at the bottom of the roster as one of those guys who "barely" make the All Star team. West is extremely talented, but he is way too inconsistent and only has "stand out" type of games once every 5-7 games. He is selfish as a player, always tries to do WAY too much to be the star, whines to the refs all the time instead of hustling for rebounds, and has a low basketball IQ.

son you are harsh with one of your boy

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 10:43 PM
sons you all know that I am not a big fan of David West, but I am happy for the Hornets to have 2 players in the All Star game for the 2nd year in a row. However with that said, I am not blind. I believe that if David West played for the Thunder, then he would not have made the All Star team this year OR last year. If Kevin Durant played for the Hornets, he would have probably made the All Star team this year.

Do I think that David West is overrated? of course, I think any of you who know me by now understand I feel that way, but to be honest damn near every player can be considered overrated ... it just depends on who your favorite team is to determine that lol. Do I think David West is an NBA All Star player? YES .... BUT.... at the bottom of the roster as one of those guys who "barely" make the All Star team. West is extremely talented, but he is way too inconsistent and only has "stand out" type of games once every 5-7 games. He is selfish as a player, always tries to do WAY too much to be the star, whines to the refs all the time instead of hustling for rebounds, and has a low basketball IQ.

I can't argue with you bro. West needs to play smarter when he comes back. He made Peja irrelevant, but Peja has shown he can score on a consistent basis. West needs to play through the offense and not force the issue. He wasn't blessed with alot of physical talent, but has made himself into an All-Star talent. However, he needs to focus more on his overall game instead of just scoring. We need him to rebound and defend down low. Hopefully watching the team win without him will show him how effective we can be when we just run our offense and play as a team.

Rogue
01-29-2009, 10:48 PM
Who is the eastern coach? SVG or Mike Brown? either guy, he has made a big error in picking harris instead of carter from nets.

Findog
01-29-2009, 10:50 PM
Suppose your right. But does Shaq really deserve to make it over West? I think West has done alot more this season than Shaq. Again, I wouldn't argue Jefferson over West as a player this season. Jefferson has had a great season. I'm happy West made it, but I would understand if Jefferson made it instead.

I think you can make a case for Shaq. In some ways, he's been Phoenix's best player.

Findog
01-29-2009, 10:52 PM
The trade was horrible and all, I would like a mulligan on it, but Harris would still probably be the 3rd option if he were still here, and he's Allen Iverson version 2.0. Not a true PG, doesn't make his teammates better, and doesn't play defense now that his coach isn't Avery. He's exactly what we're missing, but he's another in a long line of guys like Maravich and Iverson that need the ball to be effective, and can only make an impact on a game by scoring. If they're not scoring, they're not helping you.

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 10:53 PM
I can't argue with you bro. West needs to play smarter when he comes back. He made Peja irrelevant, but Peja has shown he can score on a consistent basis. West needs to play through the offense and not force the issue. He wasn't blessed with alot of physical talent, but has made himself into an All-Star talent. However, he needs to focus more on his overall game instead of just scoring. We need him to rebound and defend down low. Hopefully watching the team win without him will show him how effective we can be when we just run our offense and play as a team.

True son ... In the last 5 games without West in the lineup, the Hornets are 4-1 and have not missed him AT ALL. If anything, the Hornets have improved and are a much more fast paced team with great ball movement. I have said it once and I will say it again .... the Hornets need Tyson Chandler more than they do David West.

With West in the lineup this season, Peja has only averaged 12-13 points per game. Not because he isn't shooting well, but because he has only been given VERY LIMITED looks due to West refusing to pass the ball out whenever he is being double teamed. With West out of the lineup, Peja is averaging 23 points pet game and shooting nearly .540% ..... not to mention our other outside shooters have been given more looks as well and are delivering. West slows the team down bad.

Findog
01-29-2009, 10:54 PM
True son ... In the last 5 games without West in the lineup, the Hornets are 4-1 and have not missed him AT ALL. If anything, the Hornets have improved and are a much more fast paced team with great ball movement. I have said it once and I will say it again .... the Hornets need Tyson Chandler more than they do David West.

With West in the lineup this season, Peja has only averaged 12-13 points per game. Not because he isn't shooting well, but because he has only been given VERY LIMITED looks due to West refusing to pass the ball out whenever he is being double teamed. With West out of the lineup, Peja is averaging 23 points pet game and shooting nearly .540% ..... not to mention our other outside shooters have been given more looks as well and are delivering. West slows the team down bad.

Josh for West.

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 10:56 PM
Josh for West.

son hell no LOL

dirk4mvp
01-29-2009, 10:57 PM
son hell no LOL


son they're both worthless. Although Josh Howard circa 2006 will be better and play at a higher level than West ever will.

I would like to offer Bass for West, but we must realize West is only a slightly better version of Bass, so I wouldn't do that either son.

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 11:01 PM
son they're both worthless. Although Josh Howard circa 2006 will be better and play at a higher level than West ever will.

I would like to offer Bass for West, but we must realize West is only a slightly better version of Bass, so I wouldn't do that either son.

son West is not worthless. He is just selfish and needs a serious attitude adjustment lol. I do wish that dumb ass Byron Scott would have given Bass a fair chance .... I can't speak for Josh Howard though. Really the only thing that I know about him is that he loves to smoke that chronic and hates the National Anthem ....

Ghazi
01-29-2009, 11:02 PM
The trade was horrible and all, I would like a mulligan on it, but Harris would still probably be the 3rd option if he were still here, and he's Allen Iverson version 2.0. Not a true PG, doesn't make his teammates better, and doesn't play defense now that his coach isn't Avery. He's exactly what we're missing, but he's another in a long line of guys like Maravich and Iverson that need the ball to be effective, and can only make an impact on a game by scoring. If they're not scoring, they're not helping you.


Devin has gotten very much overrated now that he's left IMO. As if the Mavs were a championship contender in 07-08 to begin with? As if we would be better than the Cavs/Celtics/Magic/Lakers simply by plugging in Harris for Kidd? Kidd has atrocious games I think people forget that Devin himself was rather inconsistent though. He can go off for 25-30, he can also go off for 4-6.

I too would have a mulligan on that trade, but I don't lose too much sleep over it because I can't imagine us being better than the elite or with the elite simply if we had Devin. Our window was closing regardless, like you said Dirk is a 1.5, I don't think Devin is the 1.5 to pair with Dirk.

What I do lose sleep over though however is the bullshit officiating and fluky bullshit jumpers of the 2006 Finals, and the Warriors fluky bullshit jumpers in 2007. That I lose sleep over. the Kidd trade? Not so much.

Pelicans78
01-29-2009, 11:14 PM
son West is not worthless. He is just selfish and needs a serious attitude adjustment lol. I do wish that dumb ass Byron Scott would have given Bass a fair chance .... I can't speak for Josh Howard though. Really the only thing that I know about him is that he loves to smoke that chronic and hates the National Anthem ....

Long term I would rather have Hilton Armstrong and Julian Wright over Bass. They both have set positions and more upside. Bass is a tweener like Maxiell. He has alot of skills hence him winning SEC player of the year as a sophmore. Still I think Wright and Armstrong will better for the franchise in the long-term.

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 11:16 PM
Long term I would rather have Hilton Armstrong and Julian Wright over Bass. They both have set positions and more upside. Bass is a tweener like Maxiell. He has alot of skills hence him winning SEC player of the year as a sophmore. Still I think Wright and Armstrong will better for the franchise in the long-term.

Long term wise I agree with you 100%. However, I think that Bass should have been given a better chance in New Orleans .... but we all know how Byron Scott hates MOST young players.

DPG21920
01-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Long term wise I agree with you 100%. However, I think that Bass should have been given a better chance in New Orleans .... but we all know how Byron Scott hates MOST young players.

Sons, people have been giving me shit in the Spurs forum for saying D West has had a beyond mediocre year. What is with that suns?

BRHornet45
01-29-2009, 11:23 PM
Sons, people have been giving me shit in the Spurs forum for saying D West has had a beyond mediocre year. What is with that suns?

son West is having a GOOD year, but not an "All Star" year for a power forward. If anyone who understands the game of basketball (and is not a homer David West fan) would watch the Hornets games every night, then you would see what I am talking about and why he holds the team down. It's not like I just want to rag on one of our players for no reason, but the truth is that ever since the playoffs last year West is not the same player that made him an All Star last year AND more importantly the player that helped make the team better along with CP3. This year its almost as if West is trying to out shine Chris Paul ....

Rappin' Shaq
01-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Just another All-Star game for the Big Cactus
Gonna celebrate with whores layin on my mattress
U Mad? Come say that shit right to my face
Then get on your knees and tell me how my ass taste!

pawe
01-30-2009, 12:28 AM
:lol hack a bowen


--oops, wrong thread :lol

MrChug
01-30-2009, 01:00 AM
Jefferson deserves to be there.
I was SO worried that Granger (stud) wasn't gonna make it. That would have been kinda fucked up...

Findog
01-30-2009, 01:21 AM
son hell no LOL

They both give you 20 and 8...a selfish 20 and 8

dirk4mvp
01-30-2009, 01:30 AM
They both give you 20 and 8...a selfish 20 and 8


Josh Howard is probably the only player in history to put up 20 and 8 while having no effect on the game at all.

Findog
01-30-2009, 01:39 AM
Josh Howard is probably the only player in history to put up 20 and 8 while having no effect on the game at all.

I loved him when he was a 15/7 guy that was all hustle and heart...as an overpaid, lazy piece of shit 20/8 that avoids the paint and chucks up jumpers, he sucks.

Ghazi
01-30-2009, 02:32 AM
Hell Josh isn't even 20/8 that often anymore. He's 15/7... WITHOUT hustle and heart. :(

Hustle is usually reflective in stats like charges drawn blocks and steals... that's where Josh really regressed as his scoring went up.

angelbelow
01-30-2009, 05:09 AM
if youre gonna put granger than big al jeff probably should have made it too.

Sportstudi
01-31-2009, 12:23 PM
True. Easily the best offensive player for the C's this season. He's averaging 50fg% / 403pt% /90 ft% - something only 9 players in the history of the league did.

So, for those reasons, he certainly deserves some rest and a cruise with his family.

Just being curious. 9 players? Over a whole season I know that the following players made it:
Larry Bird
Mark Price
Reggie Miller
Steve Nash
Dirk Nowitzki
Jose Calderon

Btw, Bird and Nowitzki are the only one of these to average more than 20 ppg while achieving this feat.

You wrote 9? So who else?

Sportstudi
01-31-2009, 12:32 PM
About the selection of the reserves:
I'm just happy that neither Yi, Bowen, Artest and T-Mac didn't get a spot. Nothing against them personally, but the amount of votes they got was just ridiculous. Would be interesting to know the reactions in some Chinese forums about the fact that Yi didn't make it :rollin