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djohn14
02-01-2009, 10:04 AM
http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ufn-17-poster.jpg

Now surely to God Nick Catone vs Derek Downey will not be on this main card. Surely to God Anthony Johnson vs Luigi Fioravanti will be in its place. Hell, even Clementi vs Tibau, hell, anything but Catone vs Downey!!!


Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens-This will be good, but I got Joe by sub
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer-I dont know, but Ill pick Mac
Nick Catone vs. Derek Downey-I refuse to pick...if this is on the main card, Ill holdout, and take a loss.
Denis Stojnic vs. Cain Velasquez -At this point, I would pick Cain over Fedor...do I think he could win...no...but Ill pick him....Cain by TKO via intimidation


PRELIMINARY CARD (Un-televised)
Rich Clementi vs. Gleison Tibau
Luigi Fioravanti vs. Anthony Johnson -Luigi dosent stand a soccer balls chance in Brazil!
Dan Miller vs. Jake Rosholt-Jake is being tested...I think he will be good, but as of now Dan Miller has this.
Rob Emerson vs. Kurt Pellegrino-I hate both of these guys, but it will be a good fight, I got Kurtis.
Matt Grice vs. Matt Veach
Steve Bruno vs. Matthew Riddle

Evan
02-01-2009, 10:08 AM
Too bad Franca had to pull out. Damn.

djohn14
02-01-2009, 10:10 AM
I know...That would be a good fight, and yes Im going to post the card, Im just trying to get one up to date.

Evan
02-01-2009, 10:22 AM
BE is always on top of it

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/schedule

djohn14
02-01-2009, 10:26 AM
BE is always on top of it

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/schedule

haha thanks Evan...that was the site I acutally found it on...Ive been to the site before, but never favorited it...so I always forgot...not no more.

dallaskd
02-01-2009, 05:07 PM
BE is always on top of it

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/schedule

Too bad Leonard can't use it to update the upcoming cards thread.

Evan
02-01-2009, 05:38 PM
Too bad Leonard can't use it to update the upcoming cards thread.

:lol

LEONARD
02-02-2009, 09:21 AM
Waste of time when sites like BE do it...

Is Anthony Johnson really on the F'n undercard??

Catone has to be moved...

djohn14
02-02-2009, 11:21 AM
Waste of time when sites like BE do it...

Is Anthony Johnson really on the F'n undercard??

Catone has to be moved...

I sent the UFC a letter to put Anthony-Luigi on the main card. I doubt Catone-Downey will be on the main card....I mean...why would it?

TheTruth
02-02-2009, 11:29 AM
Man, Liugi/Anthony is going to be a great fight. Definitely hope it makes the main card.

LEONARD
02-02-2009, 12:00 PM
They'll change it since Amir is off the card...

LEONARD
02-03-2009, 11:16 AM
AJ to the main card! woot
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.FightCard&eid=1875

djohn14
02-03-2009, 11:36 AM
AJ to the main card! woot
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.FightCard&eid=1875

Thank you Leonard...Anthony Johnson and Cain Velasquez free on the same card...WOWOW!!!!!!!!!!! Imsohappy!

robbie380
02-03-2009, 01:04 PM
i wish they moved the Miller vs. Rosholt fight to the main card too. rosholt is an interesting prospect if he can learn how to stop getting hit in the face :lol

LEONARD
02-03-2009, 01:07 PM
Maybe they'll be able to squeeze it in. Too many solid fights on this one...

oligarchy
02-03-2009, 09:19 PM
Main Card

Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens - I would've preferred Franca here, as I think it would have been a better fight. Lauzon should sub him in the 1st or 2nd.
Denis Stojnic vs. Cain Velasquez - Cain needs a step-up in competition. Hopefully, his next fight will be just that. This should end early. I believe this is the co-main -- give fans a better look at Cain.
Mac Danzigvs. Josh Neer - Neer is a pretty tough guy and should give Danzig problems. It was surprising that Nate didn't sub Neer, so I think this will probably go to decision and Danzig eeking one out -- he needs it.
Luigi Fioravanti vs. Anthony Johnson - Luigi got outstruck by Diego. Anthony will inflict some pain.

Preliminary Card

Rob Emerson vs. Kurt Pellegrino - Lords of South County, y0!
Dan Miller vs. Jake Rosholt - Jake gets a big test off the bat. Too bad it's a physics test and he's still learning algebra.
Matt Grice vs. Matt Veach
Rich Clementi vs. Gleison Tibau
Nick Catone vs. Derek Downey
Steve Bruno vs. Matthew Riddle

Evan
02-03-2009, 09:44 PM
Waste of time when sites like BE do it...

Yeah but its o so much fun to nut kick.

djohn14
02-05-2009, 11:41 AM
Luigi better watch out or this will happen...

ALoaQJUSRHs

djohn14
02-05-2009, 11:42 AM
Im so happy....I embeded my first video!

LEONARD
02-05-2009, 11:47 AM
Loogi is in big trouble...

polandprzem
02-06-2009, 02:56 AM
Joe Lauzonvs. Jeremy Stephens
Denis Stojnic vs. Cain Velasquez
Mac Danzigvs. Josh Neer
Luigi Fioravanti vs. Anthony Johnson

LEONARD
02-06-2009, 04:34 PM
Joe's Facebook status... :lmao

"Joe Lauzon is about to be violated by a male doctor at the weigh-ins... This won't be good."

djohn14
02-06-2009, 06:32 PM
haha

LEONARD
02-06-2009, 06:40 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti

undercard
Jake Rosholt vs. Dan Miller
Rich Clementi vs. Gleison Tibau
Kurt Pellegrino vs. Rob Emerson
Nick Catone vs Derek Downey
Matt Grice vs. Matt Veach
Matt Riddle vs Steve Bruno

LEONARD
02-06-2009, 06:45 PM
Joe's video blogs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE6Sblr9lvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkqNXkUBqXE

Previews/picks
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/2/3/745494/ufc-fight-night-17-lauzon
http://www.cagepotato.com/ufc-fight-night-17-new-guys
http://www.cagepotato.com/gambling-addiction-enabler-ufc-fight-night-17
http://mmamania.com/2009/02/06/ufc-fight-night-17-predictions-preview-and-analysis/

Evan
02-06-2009, 06:50 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti

undercard
Jake Rosholt vs. Dan Miller
Rich Clementi vs. Gleison Tibau
Kurt Pellegrino vs. Rob Emerson
Nick Catone vs Derek Downey
Matt Grice vs. Matt Veach
Matt Riddle vs Steve Bruno

dallaskd
02-06-2009, 10:34 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti

undercard
Jake Rosholt vs. Dan Miller
Rich Clementi vs. Gleison Tibau
Kurt Pellegrino vs. Rob Emerson
Nick Catone vs Derek Downey
Matt Grice vs. Matt Veach
Matt Riddle vs Steve Bruno

desflood
02-07-2009, 06:29 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti

I hate picking Danzig.

Evan
02-07-2009, 06:40 PM
wtf spike?!!? Its only 2 hours tonight...

My Gawd....can't we preempt replays of "1000 ways to die?!?!?!"

dbreiden83080
02-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti

dbreiden83080
02-07-2009, 07:27 PM
wtf spike?!!? Its only 2 hours tonight...

My Gawd....can't we preempt replays of "1000 ways to die?!?!?!"

I love Spike for all the UFC coverage but man do they have some awful, shows...

Evan
02-07-2009, 08:26 PM
I love Spike for all the UFC coverage but man do they have some awful, shows...

If I was them I would show as much UFC as possible...what else do they have that appeals to more than 1% of people?

I would make UFC shows 3 hours followed by a 30 minutes post fight show breaking it down.

ATRAIN
02-07-2009, 09:11 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti


None of the fights have started yet I hope.

Evan
02-07-2009, 09:14 PM
fights have started

HD feed looks awful

ATRAIN
02-07-2009, 09:17 PM
anyone wanna go into the chat room for this?

dbreiden83080
02-07-2009, 09:22 PM
Rumble Baby!!!!

dbreiden83080
02-07-2009, 09:23 PM
fights have started

HD feed looks awful

Mine's fine. is your service giving you trouble???

Evan
02-07-2009, 09:26 PM
Mine's fine. is your service giving you trouble???

hmmmmmmmmmm....hd looks good on every channels except spike which is normally perfect.

I'll check out chat AT!

Evan
02-07-2009, 09:30 PM
WOOPS...looks like I wasn't on the Spike HD channel on Time Warner...

Evan
02-07-2009, 09:31 PM
atrain..cmon dude

chat

ATRAIN
02-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Great fights, fun chat = great sat night, now time to hit the bar lol.

djohn14
02-07-2009, 11:01 PM
My thoughts...Cain and Anthony are future champs, sweet sub by Joe, I hate Josh Neer, and I like Dan Miller.

TheTruth
02-07-2009, 11:01 PM
I guess we can stop calling Rosholt a big time prospect. Great night of fighting. JLau is a bad ass...

dbreiden83080
02-07-2009, 11:04 PM
My thoughts...Cain and Anthony are future champs, sweet sub by Joe, I hate Josh Neer, and I like Dan Miller.

Rumble has a long way to go, as good as he is. 170 is stacked..

LEONARD
02-07-2009, 11:10 PM
Uh huh...like I said :ihit

http://www.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop.php?image=http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/48/47720.jpg

Great night of fights...the commercials & promos were frustrating...at least they managed to get Miller-Rosholt in thanks for Miller being such a badass...

Lauzon's ground game is fun to watch...

Neer is always fun to watch...

Cain and AJ...no surprises...

LEONARD
02-07-2009, 11:12 PM
Joe Lauzon vs. Jeremy Stephens
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti

undercard
Jake Rosholt vs. Dan Miller
Rich Clementi vs. Gleison Tibau
Kurt Pellegrino vs. Rob Emerson
Nick Catone vs Derek Downey
Matt Grice vs. Matt Veach
Matt Riddle vs Steve Bruno

8-2

Evan
02-07-2009, 11:16 PM
Jake is a massive disappointment so far. He looks so lost and confused as if he has no clue what to do once the fight isn't a wrestling match.

djohn14
02-07-2009, 11:46 PM
Rumble has a long way to go, as good as he is. 170 is stacked..

I said FUTURE...he does have a ways to go...But when you are a good wrestler and can strike like he can...your gonna contend.

dbreiden83080
02-07-2009, 11:58 PM
I said FUTURE...he does have a ways to go...But when you are a good wrestler and can strike like he can...your gonna contend.

I never get that excited about anyone until i see them face some real competiton. He has fought nothing but cans so far. He's a great athlete, good striking and wrestling but until we see him fight guys like a Fitch or a Koscheck, and see what he can do when he is tested than nobody knows what the future holds.. He's talented but he's fought nobody.. Just my opinion..

Behrooz24
02-08-2009, 12:03 AM
Man I hate Danzig, glad he lost.

djohn14
02-08-2009, 12:16 AM
I never get that excited about anyone until i see them face some real competiton. He has fought nothing but cans so far. He's a great athlete, good striking and wrestling but until we see him fight guys like a Fitch or a Koscheck, and see what he can do when he is tested than nobody knows what the future holds.. He's talented but he's fought nobody.. Just my opinion..

Its just the massive upside though! He is so talented and he has his head on striaght...thats hard to find.

dbreiden83080
02-08-2009, 12:34 AM
Its just the massive upside though! He is so talented and he has his head on striaght...thats hard to find.

I agree with you but i think it depends on the division. If GSP gets by Alves, he will be untouchable unless he decides to move up, which he might. Do you think he is more talented than Koscheck, a more accomplished wrestler who's striking is getting better and better?? Just curious..

djohn14
02-08-2009, 09:46 AM
I agree with you but i think it depends on the division. If GSP gets by Alves, he will be untouchable unless he decides to move up, which he might. Do you think he is more talented than Koscheck, a more accomplished wrestler who's striking is getting better and better?? Just curious..
Anthony Johnson? Kos has him beat in wrestling obviously. AJ is the better striker. AJ has the potential. Kos has the experience. For now its pretty even, but I feel Anthony will have the better career.

IX_Equilibrium
02-08-2009, 10:08 AM
Neer-Danzig was a great fight. Neer's an asshole, but I love watching him fight. I just can't believe I root for the guy.

BlackSwordsMan
02-08-2009, 05:11 PM
why does danzig suck so much?I like him as a fighter but damn I can only support so many losing fighters

Evan
02-08-2009, 06:23 PM
he doesn't have the killer instinct to make it in the big show.

dbreiden83080
02-08-2009, 08:30 PM
he doesn't have the killer instinct to make it in the big show.

Not sure if you agree but i just don't see anything exceptional about him. All great fighters, while well rounded have at least one dominant aspect to their game. And most have more than one. Mac, he is just pretty solid. But not great at any one thing..

Evan
02-08-2009, 08:38 PM
^ agree

djohn14
02-08-2009, 09:22 PM
He is an NBA comparison to Devin Brown. He'll stick around, every once in a while will have a good showing, but he isnt a star by any means.

LEONARD
02-09-2009, 05:45 PM
Bruce Buffer working out in capri pants... :lol

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/020709ufcbefore/1016.jpg

Great write-up & pics by Tracy Lee
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/words/gdetail.php?id=143

Evan
02-09-2009, 09:23 PM
lol

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4969/neerdumbasssb65374666bv8.gif

djohn14
02-09-2009, 10:01 PM
Haha...he hit himself in the face!