Bynum out 8-12 weeks

[tlongII]

Torn MCL.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns

EL SEGUNDO, CALIFORNIA (TICKER) —Los Angeles Lakers center Andrew Bynum has a torn right MCL and will be sidelined eight to 12 weeks, the team announced Monday.

Bynum suffered the injury in the first quarter of Saturday’s victory over the Memphis Grizzlies.

The 7-foot center had his knee examined Sunday in New York but, according to the Los Angeles Times, Dr. David Altchek was out of town and has not had a chance to review the MRI.

[z0sa]

Bynum's knee is made of glass.

[jason1301]

thanks for the update, lets hope he comes back before the playoffs.

[ManuTP9]

:toast

[loveforthegame]

Tough loss for the Lakers.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Oden is next

[2centsworth]

karma is a bitch

[4everSpurFan]

Tough loss for the Lakers.

+1

hopefully the spurs can take advantage and try to get the 1 spot. We need it if they want any chance at beating L.A. if we get that far in the PO

[lebomb]

Yep............he is done. He will always have knee issues. Too bad, looked like he was gonna be a great player.

[DPG21920]

He is not done. There have been guys with major knee surgeries (micro-fracture) to come back and do very well.

[PDXSpursFan]

So he'll be back for the playoffs, out-of-rythms in the 1-2 round, and should be ready for us on the WCF - no excuses :D

[Dr. Gonzo]

He is not done. There have been guys with major knee surgeries (micro-fracture) to come back and do very well.

Shawn Kemp is one example.

[DPG21920]

Amare

[IronMexican]

Oh well.

[Zarko's Ghost]

Out 8-12 Weeks per Yahoo

[phxspurfan]

Wow that sucks for him and the Lakers. It always seems to be the ones that don't look bad in the replay.

[SenorSpur]

I wonder how Gerald Wallace feels after hearing this news.

Karma most certainly IS a bitch.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I'm unmoved and indifferent to this news, Wallace meant a lot to Bobcats' fans playoff chances with Larry Brown.

Lakers still have Gasol and Kobe, so wgaf.

[lebomb]

He is not done. There have been guys with major knee surgeries (micro-fracture) to come back and do very well.


Not totally done......but with a history of knee injuries.........that will definitely make him play more passive dont you think? You feel he will be the same Bynum when he returns? Maybe......

[noob cake]

Two faulty knee?

Thats not good for his career. Imagine how much care he will have to take now

Good luck to Bynum, bad luck to the Lakers.

[FreeMason]

Kobe just couldn't take someone else getting in the spot light.

[tmtcsc]

sucks. I wanted him in there with the Lakers at full strength. Remember the feeling of us beating down the 3 time champs in '03 ? Nothing better. Oh well, they will still be formidable. Maybe he makes it back in time for the playoffs.

[it's me]

This is manna from heaven for Hillinger.... dude got an excuse to change all his moronic predictions.

[Taco]

Bynum's knee is made of glass.

Sounds like Mahinmi's ankle.:bang

[1Parker1]

Ehh, it's bad news, but I think he'll still have plenty of time to make it back for the playoffs. Not only that, but even without him in the regular season, Lakers still have a great team and should be able to sustain their #1 seed.

[fyatuk]

Ehh, it's bad news, but I think he'll still have plenty of time to make it back for the playoffs. Not only that, but even without him in the regular season, Lakers still have a great team and should be able to sustain their #1 seed.

Bynum being gone might cost them a game or two, which could be the difference. I was already sure the gap between Spurs & Lakers in the standings would shrink by the end of the season.

[EricB]

This loss hurts them more than people think. 1parker1 remember last year when he was only gonna be out 8 weeks? Never came back. Lakers have to plan for the year as if he's done for the year.

[Man of Steel]

It is sick to enjoy the injury to ANY player.

Sick.

Good luck to AB--a young player with a terrific future in the NBA.

We got pissed when people rejoiced when Tim got injured before the Phoenix playoffs a few years ago and against Detroit a couple of years ago.

We should remember that.

[Manufan909]

Sounds like Mahinmi's ankle.:bang

Yeah. Except for Bynum not needing 8 MRIs before the real problem was found, they're exactly the same.:nope

[Donnie Hathaway]

Although it isnt cool to be joyful about this, it does appear to be a huge break for the spurs, and seeing as this is a spurs forum and seeing as how we do have a sour taste in our mouth from last years WCF, its no surpirse why this thread will be hot hot hot.

I do wish andrew bynum to a speedy(well not too speedy) recovery though

[benefactor]

This could be pretty bad for the Lakers. 10 weeks from today is Apr. 13th, which is the day before their season finale. They really need him back closer to the 8 week mark, which would give him 8 games to get into game shape and get into rhythm for the playoffs. That said, I wish him a speedy recovery.

From our perspective we need to take advantage of this time without Bynum by continuing to win games to try to close the gap. We are only 5 games back and if we can put together a solid second half of the season we could have a shot at the 1 seed.

[1usamotorsports.com]

When bynum gets back Im sure ian will be in too .

[tHe210rObInHoOd]

Bynum will be out the rest of the year like last year, but Spurs will still have a tough time with the Lakers in the playoffs unless Ginbili plays like an all-star.

[Bruno]

I wish him a good rehab.

If he is out 8 weeks, he will be able to help significantly Lakers for the playoffs. If he is out 12 weeks, it won't. It's also likely that Lakers have a more precise idea on how long he will be out than just the 8 to 12 weeks diagnostic.

[2centsworth]

It is sick to enjoy the injury to ANY player.

Sick.

Good luck to AB--a young player with a terrific future in the NBA.

We got pissed when people rejoiced when Tim got injured before the Phoenix playoffs a few years ago and against Detroit a couple of years ago.

We should remember that.

nobody should enjoy it, but there is a sense of justice for what he did to Gerald Wallace.

[Brazil]

I also wish him a good rehab, I hope to see him again this year, he was playing very well these last weeks.
This is a significant loss for the lakers but even without him they are still the favorites in the West. Now if Lakers make the finals anyway it will be tough for them.

[SPURS50]

Hey Kobe! How my ass taste?

[FreeMason]

Drop in the standings and hit them in the 1st round haha

[jag]

sucks. I wanted him in there with the Lakers at full strength. Remember the feeling of us beating down the 3 time champs in '03 ? Nothing better. Oh well, they will still be formidable. Maybe he makes it back in time for the playoffs.

Yes, but i also remember the feeling of '01, '02, '04, and '08.

It's a tough break for Bynum, and you'd never wish that on any player...but i'm not gonna act like it's bad news for the Spurs.

[raspsa]

Suddenly, the Spurs need to upgrade its bigs became a tad less critical..

[lrrr]

The irony is that if he had been suspended for seriously injuring another player, he wouldn't have been seriously injured.

[xtremesteven33]

I dont see how people are saying the Lakers are still the favorites. We all know the dominant frontcourt of the Lakers was too much for this current Spurs team. With Bynum (probably gone for the season IMO), the Spurs are the favorites to get to the Finals this year.

An healthy Manu,Tim,Tony is too much for Kobe and Pau too handle. Also the Spurs have youth to help them. Dont get me wrong the series will go 6-7 games but i see the Spurs winning.

[DPG21920]

I dont see how people are saying the Lakers are still the favorites. We all know the dominant frontcourt of the Lakers was too much for this current Spurs team. With Bynum (probably gone for the season IMO), the Spurs are the favorites to get to the Finals this year.

An healthy Manu,Tim,Tony is too much for Kobe and Pau too handle. Also the Spurs have youth to help them. Dont get me wrong the series will go 6-7 games but i see the Spurs winning.

Please explain last year then?

[portnoy1]

Out 8-12 Weeks per Yahoo
spurs better take full advantage of this and overtake the lakers now while they are vulnerable.

[Spurs Brazil]

bad news.

I hope he can be back soon

[mystargtr34]

Please explain last year then?

Mason, Hill, playing 5 on 5 on Offense with Bonner's emergence.

And mostly, the real Manu. Not 12 PPG on 35% Manu.

[diego]

it's too bad for bynum. this is his career and i cant wish him misery.

but as for the lakers, and their fans... yes, i wish them misery, and am glad they have this injury. how many times did they downplay manu's injury? how many times did they mock us for complaining about the refs? in last years finals they got their asses stomped and all we heard was "if we had bynum", "if the refs didnt let them manhandle us"... this season started and, like every other year, they annointed themselves champs. they suffer from chronic premature ejaculation and once again they've blown their load months too early. I just hope the spurs are the ones to take advantage :ihit

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'm unmoved and indifferent to this news, Wallace meant a lot to Bobcats' fans playoff chances with Larry Brown.

Lakers still have Gasol and Kobe, so wgaf.

We give a fuck because Bynum was the guy we couldn't match up on.

As for all you people saying he's done, get a fucking grip. He's 21 for fucksake. Plenty of players have come back from knee injuries - Kidd, Stoudamire, Kenyon Martin just off the top of my head. I really don't understand the attitude of many posters on this board towards injury.

[ClingingMars]

Please explain last year then?

http://i42.tinypic.com/t8qn4k.jpg

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Please explain last year then?

Can't you read? He said: "An healthy Manu,Tim,Tony is too much for Kobe and Pau too handle."

Manu was playing on one leg.

[mingus]

I'd like to see the Spurs face la w/ a healthy bynum, but in all honesty it's not THAT hard not to feel sorry for them when their team is still capable of beating anybody w/ or w/o him. It's not like w/ the spurs, where if one of their big 3 is out or playing 50% (like manu last year), everything is over.

the way I see it is this pretty much levels the playing field. It negates that bs trade last year w/ memphis.

W/ a heathy manu, a bonner that was better than last years' horry (if he can keep doing what he's doing, but also in big games/crunch time), a way better finley, mason this team is pretty good.

If they can not shoot 5/24 from three land I like there chances against anyone, and that inlcuded La w/ or w/o Bynum.

[xtremesteven33]

Duncan OWNS Gasol. and i can see Bonner staying in front of Odom and see Bowen even get some time on him while Mason guards Kobe for awhile.

Im telling you guys, with Bynum out (while its unfortunate for LA) the playoffs really favor the Spurs now.

[hater]

Lakers are deep, and have Kobe + Gasol. they still have great chance to beat Spurs. Spurs still have to play a flawless series to get by

[whottt]

Fug

[FromWayDowntown]

Sucks for Bynum. Here's hoping he has a complete recovery.

[word]

Bummer. I hate seeing people hurt. I'd rather beat 'em full strength to see the tears flow with no excuses.

[mystargtr34]

Duncan OWNS Gasol. and i can see Bonner staying in front of Odom and see Bowen even get some time on him while Mason guards Kobe for awhile.

Im telling you guys, with Bynum out (while its unfortunate for LA) the playoffs really favor the Spurs now.

I think we will see at least 30 MPG from Bowen in a series against LA. Hes the only guy that can remotely slow Kobe. Mase is not the answer. It may look like hes sticking with Kobe, but Kobe elevates and shoots right over the top of him whenever he feels like it and he cant get a hand up past his chin to effect his shot. And when he drives, as soon as Mason bumps him the slightest or lays a finger on him - you will hear the whistle.

Im ok with Mase on Kobe for short stretches, say 10-15 minutes total, but no more. Too small.

Bowen is the answer.

[word]

Duncan OWNS Gasol. and i can see Bonner staying in front of Odom and see Bowen even get some time on him while Mason guards Kobe for awhile.

Im telling you guys, with Bynum out (while its unfortunate for LA) the playoffs really favor the Spurs now.

Bynum would be back come playoff time, wouldn't he ?

[cool hand]

keep looking for that big man...........fucking spurs.

[timvp]

I think the Lakers are being conservative with the 8-to-12 week estimate. Last week, Bynum drew some heat from fans and the media for not meeting the timeline the Lakers set for him. This time, I'm guessing the Lakers gave an ulta conservative timeline to make sure that doesn't happen.

An MCL tear, as long as it isn't completely torn, is usually about a 4 week injury.

[word]

By the time we met them, with things as they are of course, he'd be back either way. Being they beat us without him I don't see any great advantage for the Spurs.

I just want OUR guys to be healthy. And no broken down planes sitting on the runway for a back to back game 7 to game 1 of the WCF. That was ridiculous.

[Creation88]

ouch. hopefully the Spurs can make up some ground and take home court advantage.

[word]

They have a shot immediate term...Lakers have the Cavs and Boston coming up, after NY.

But we still have our RRT to contend with.

[porscha]

I wonder how Gerald Wallace feels after hearing this news.

Karma most certainly IS a bitch.

well, is the unfairer selfish Stern would have suspended bynum for even just one game, this would not be happened.
how long will the G.Wallace will be out?
god is watching....stern!

[xtremesteven33]

I think the Lakers are being conservative with the 8-to-12 week estimate. Last week, Bynum drew some heat from fans and the media for not meeting the timeline the Lakers set for him. This time, I'm guessing the Lakers gave an ulta conservative timeline to make sure that doesn't happen.

An MCL tear, as long as it isn't completely torn, is usually about a 4 week injury.



Kobe just said "They can win a championship without Bynum"


sounds to me like its really serious and there is a VERY good chance he might be out the whole season.

[peskypesky]

Although it isnt cool to be joyful about this, it does appear to be a huge break for the spurs, and seeing as this is a spurs forum and seeing as how we do have a sour taste in our mouth from last years WCF, its no surpirse why this thread will be hot hot hot.

I do wish andrew bynum to a speedy(well not too speedy) recovery though

:toast

The Spurs had to face the Lakers in the WCF with a gimpy Manu, and then had to start the season with no Manu. On top of that, we were missing Tony for a chunk of the season, so I have to hope this balances the playing field a little and helps us gain a little ground on the Lakers. I doubt it'll be enough to let us catch up, but we'll see.

And maybe it's all a bit of karma, not only for the Gerald Wallace injury, but for the very suspect Gasol trade.

[timvp]

Kobe just said "They can win a championship without Bynum"


sounds to me like its really serious and there is a VERY good chance he might be out the whole season.
Eh. Gasol, Fisher and Odom could retire tomorrow and Kobe would say a championship is well within his grasps.

[xtremesteven33]

Eh. Gasol, Fisher and Odom could retire tomorrow and Kobe would say a championship is well within his grasps.




Nah i think theyre really anticipating the worst. And they get a feeling it might be the end for Andrew.

[EricB]

I think the Lakers are being conservative with the 8-to-12 week estimate. Last week, Bynum drew some heat from fans and the media for not meeting the timeline the Lakers set for him. This time, I'm guessing the Lakers gave an ulta conservative timeline to make sure that doesn't happen.

An MCL tear, as long as it isn't completely torn, is usually about a 4 week injury.



An la sports DJ brought up that the injury is severe enough to hold him out the full 12 weeks.

[mystargtr34]

Nah i think theyre really anticipating the worst. And they get a feeling it might be the end for Andrew.

Kobe said that before the MRI was released. It looked pretty bad with the way Bynum went down - but he was probably just being Kobe.

I think after last years debacle, id be inclined to agree with timvp and say they were a little more conservative with the prognosis this time around. It puts less pressure on Bynum too.

[DPG21920]

Can't you read? He said: "An healthy Manu,Tim,Tony is too much for Kobe and Pau too handle."

Manu was playing on one leg.

Can't you not be a dick?

[timvp]

Nah i think theyre really anticipating the worst. And they get a feeling it might be the end for Andrew.A quote of Kobe being confident doesn't mean anything. That's like finding a quote about rain saying it's wet.


An la sports DJ brought up that the injury is severe enough to hold him out the full 12 weeks.When Bonner tore his MCL, he missed five weeks. And that's playing for Pop, who always gives at least an extra week of recovery cushion.

8-to-12 weeks doesn't make sense unless it's completely torn ... and it doesn't sound like it is.

[Thomas82]

By the time we met them, with things as they are of course, he'd be back either way. Being they beat us without him I don't see any great advantage for the Spurs.

I just want OUR guys to be healthy. And no broken down planes sitting on the runway for a back to back game 7 to game 1 of the WCF. That was ridiculous.


Yeah, I still can't get over that one. Us getting #5 this year would make that a lot easier to deal with.

[xtremesteven33]

A quote of Kobe being confident doesn't mean anything. That's like finding a quote about rain saying it's wet.



My point was how the team is preparing for the loss of Bynum. Kobes confidence is not in question.

[DPG21920]

Maybe the Spurs win with a healthy Manu last year, that is a big assumption. Just because Manu is healthy does not mean the Spurs are the better team or the favorites, even with Bynum out.

It helps the chances, but by no means automatically catapults the Spurs over the Lakers who did not have Bynum last year with a healthy Ariza this year and Pau playing even better.

[timvp]

"The Spurs' latest victory, however, came at a cost: Matt Bonner, whose playing time had increased in recent weeks, tore the medial collateral ligament in his left knee early in the second half. Team officials project Bonner to miss anywhere from two to six weeks."A tear in the MCL is similar to a sprained ankle. Out two to three months? Don't buy it.

[DPG21920]

Lakers are deep, and have Kobe + Gasol. they still have great chance to beat Spurs. Spurs still have to play a flawless series to get by

[timvp]

My point was how the team is preparing for the loss of Bynum. Kobes confidence is not in question.What are they doing to prepare for Bynum's loss?

[j-money24]

Hey Kobe! How my ass taste?

what a douche.

[xtremesteven33]

What are they doing to prepare for Bynum's loss?



sheeshhh...


"We can win without Bynum"


Sounds to me like Kobe knows its gonna be really serious. And theres a high chance he can be out for the playoffs.

[word]

What are they doing to prepare for Bynum's loss?

They've played more without him, than with him the last 18 months so my guess is, not much.

[Pelicans78]

This sucks. I really feel bad for the Lakers fans. They had a great chance to win it all. They can still win it all, but its a blow. Its not the same feeling watching the Hornets battle them.

[SpursFanFirst]

karma is a bitch

[InK]

They said the exact same thing about his last years injury as well, didnt they?

[DPG21920]

Where is everyone getting that it is partially torn?

[InK]

Not totally done......but with a history of knee injuries.........that will definitely make him play more passive dont you think? You feel he will be the same Bynum when he returns? Maybe......

Yeh i agree, there is allways a chance ppl dont come back the same after the surgery. It would be a shame, if his career would be plagued with injuries and operations.

[Bruno]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-andrew-bynum3-2009feb03,0,234733.story


He will rest the knee for the next seven to 10 days and will then begin rehabilitating it. Surgery is not required for this type of injury, said Lakers spokesman John Black.

I'm not a knee expert but if he start the rehab 7-10 days after the injury, it looks like it wasn't that bad.

[timvp]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-andrew-bynum3-2009feb03,0,234733.story



I'm not a knee expert but if he start the rehab 7-10 after the injury, it looks like it wasn't that bad.Yeah, 7-to-11 weeks of rehab for an injury that keeps him off the knee for a week? Don't buy it.

I'll say he's back by March 15th.

[Manufan909]

If he's out as long as TP Manu were combined, I hope the Spurs can break even with them, at least.

[NRHector]

I'm unmoved and indifferent to this news, Wallace meant a lot to Bobcats' fans playoff chances with Larry Brown.

Lakers still have Gasol and Kobe, so wgaf.:tu

[exstatic]

I disbelieve anything the Lakers say on this. They flat lied to their season tix holders last year.

[DrHouse]

This injury is decidedly less complicated than the one Andrew sustained last year. Last year it was a combination of a dislocated knee cap and a deep bone bruise. They thought he could rehab the knee without surgery but it turned out there was still debris in the knee causing him pain. He finally had to get arthroscopic surgery to get that removed. Had they done the surgery right away he may have been able to come back during the playoffs.

This time around, from what the Lakers have disclosed, it appears to be only a Grade II MCL tear. These kind of injuries are very common in football and actually the Spur's own Matt Bonner had a similar MCL tear last January. He came back in 5 weeks. The Lakers were cautious with the 8-12 week timeframe, hoping to avoid the backlash that occured last season. Internally it appears most expect him back by 8 weeks, which I think sounds about right assuming there are no further complications.

That being said, the Lakers are still a very good team without Bynum. Don't expect them to fold like a leaf now that he's gone. The Spurs do have a great chance to catch up, but 5-6 games is a pretty good cushion for the Lakers.

[DAF86]

Seeing an article that says that Karl wants Denver to get the 2nd or 3rd seed to avoid the Lakers till the finals made me think what would be best to the Spurs? (outside of the number one seed of course) And it crossed my mind the thought of beign the 8th seed. I know you're all thinking that I'm fucked up in the head right about now, but give it a thought, is it really that crazy?

To me the only team that the Spurs can lose to in the West are the Lakers, all the others, with or without HCA they should beat handily. And we know we only care about winning it all, to us losing in the first round or in the NBA finals is the same so why don't face the Lakers when our veteran guys are a lot more rested and Bynum may not even be playing (and if he does he'd be a little bit rusty)?

P.S: I put this here 'cause I didn't want to start a thread with a crazy idea that is never going to happen, but I still wanted to share the thought and I didn't know where else to put it.