Game Blog : Spurs @ Warriors

[cnyc3]

cmon tony

[timtonymanu]

goddamnit Tony!

[Thomas82]

I pray that we have enough in the tank tomorrow night in Denver.

[tomtom]

wow seroiusly

[marini martini]

to shut yo mouth up

:lmao

[spursfan09]

awww come on Tony

[Spurminator]

Good lord, they're acing like it was a complete phantom call. There was definitely contact.

[Crookshanks]

:lmao they're STILL bitching about that Manu foul. LOL - the refs should be educated to a player's tendencies. WHAAAAAA :p:

[WalterBenitez]

Why Mr longoria is catching those balls??? come one, give it to Manu

[Spurologist]

:pctoss

tp is learning too much about drama from eva

make your fts

[Yorae]

Nellie not giving up

[InK]

Parker -.-. again this tired old story

[spursfan09]

Yeah made the first 2 missed the second 2

alright well he shut my mouth :blah

[Manufan909]

KT was awesome tonight, and Manu has officially returned. :)

Most TOs this season, TP/George non-existent, and no hot 3 pt shooting, and we win the game with 4th Q and OT grit. :tu

TP is 8-18, has 23 pts, 1 more as than TOs, and he was nonexistent!?!

[bdictjames]

WTH Tony?

[DPG21920]

KT was awesome tonight, and Manu has officially returned. :)

Most TOs this season, TP/George non-existent, and no hot 3 pt shooting, and we win the game with 4th Q and OT grit. :tu


TP with: 23 pts, 7 ast, 4 boards.

[Quiet Strength]

awww come on Tony

Yeah thats why it should be manu or mason shooting free throws

[Fundamental]

Hell yeah, the Spurs finally have the fat asthmatic 10-year old against the ropes!

enjoy the win and stop sounding like a lakers fan. every team in nba can beat any other team in the nba on any given night.

[urunobili]

come on guys we need this W!

[Josepatches_]

Give the ball to TP! Yes,what a great idea

[024]

warriors commentators still bitching about that call. it's ok to say you disagree but don't spend the entire overtime whining.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

so true!

I called people out pretty much all game since the 2nd quarter, but they kept on with their whining.

I know my team, how they play in games and over the course of the season, and I never give up on them because i know their perseverence will get them there most of the time.

People like Shadowwank could learn something if they actually listened to me.

[SuperManu!!!]

Ginobili finishes the game

[Quiet Strength]

alright well he shut my mouth :blah

I dont even know why he misses so many free throws. He has a great looking shot.

[JohnnySixString]

enjoy the win and stop sounding like a lakers fan. every team in nba can beat any other team in the nba on any given night.

Especially when you play like shit and turn the ball over 17+ times. The Spurs made the Warriors look like the Lakers tonight.

[Yorae]

Monster game by td and manu.

[Supergirl]

refs are being douchebags about the Manu foul at the end of regulation. Spurs have been on the losing end of that stick so many times it's ridiculous. GS had their chances to win in OT and proved they're a lesser team

[spursfan09]

Yeah thats why it should be manu or mason shooting free throws

agree, but at least the last two were irrelavant

[Manufan909]

Losing the game was choking in OT.

[Biggems]

Yay we win

[Crookshanks]

Whew! Now we can breathe again.

[Quiet Strength]

Ginobili finishes the game

Yeah manu was huge! It was an ugly win but thats how the spurs win now.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

:lmao @ the Warriors announcers living in the past about the Manu FT's to tie!

[milkyway21]

:toast: to SAN ANTONIO.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

TP is 8-18, has 23 pts, 1 more as than TOs, and he was nonexistent!?!


TP with: 23 pts, 7 ast, 4 boards.

He felt non-existent though, until the 4th when I said he'd go crazy because he's been so bad.

Nice stats, but 6 TOs. he still had a poor game overall.

[InK]

Monster game by td and manu.

By td?

edit: thought u said parker, nvm

[marini martini]

Exciting game!!! Love the Spurs!!!!:toast

[boutons_]

Tony chokes, but Manu is there.

huge win, up and down, crazy # of TOs, Bonner/Mason = 7 pts, withstood very hot shooting, and executed down the stretch.

Huge, tough win on the road

[Spurologist]

Announcers still bitching about the manu foul at the end of regulation. Someone hand them some tissues.

[WalterBenitez]

Monster game by td and manu.

I know I know, but what about KT rebounding???

[Josepatches_]

Great game by Bonner too

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

refs are being douchebags about the Manu foul at the end of regulation. Spurs have been on the losing end of that stick so many times it's ridiculous. GS had their chances to win in OT and proved they're a lesser team

I've never seen commentators act so unprofessional. Move on! Players get benefit of the calls all the time. They were acting like it was egregious and the first time it ever happened. :lol

[Crookshanks]

If it hadn't been for all the turnovers, this would've been a blowout and our starters could've rested for tomorrow. Oh well - good teams win a lot, but GREAT teams find a way to win regardless!

[DPG21920]

He felt non-existent though, until the 4th when I said he'd go crazy because he's been so bad.

Nice stats, but 6 TOs. he still had a poor game overall.

He did not have a "poor game". He had a rough game by his standards, but he still finished well and hung in tough. I also said go to TP, in fact, I said it before you!

[nadroj117]

Were lucky to come away with a win, but a win is a win, and keeping any amount of distance ahead of New Orleans and Denver. Unfortunately we have a tough one tomorrow night, we pull that one off I like our chances with 5 days off against Boston.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I think I'll skip the game thread tomorrow because beating Denver in Denver after an OT road Warriors game will be very tough, and I can't stand the constant whining whenever we are behind.

We've been behind against bad teams in the 2nd/3rd quarters in most games this year, and yet we've won over 90% of those games by nutting up in the 4th, and yet so many fans still whinge their arses off when we get behind. It's getting rather tiresome.

[Manufan909]

Bonner with 4 rbs in 17 mins, not too bad. Plus, he only had 1 shot. Mason 3-8, 1-3from 3.

Pops SB experiment to start the 2nd quarter caused this game to go to OT. That, and Parker missing clutch FTs. Only 1 Manu missed wasn't in crunch time.

[InK]

I know I know, but what about KT rebounding???

KT>Bonner. Im tired of this Bonner getting raped crap, what happend to the prime directive......no defense=no playing time

[pawe]

These freakin announcers kept on whining about the manu foul. Warriors could have prevented the foul and the OT if only they hit their shots and played defense in the first place. Learn from Pop's interviews you morons.

[Horse]

My god those announcers have got to be the biggest pussies in town. How about two offensive fouls on Duncan in the second half that led to him fouling out.

[TDMVPDPOY]

He did not have a "poor game". He had a rough game by his standards, but he still finished well and hung in tough. I also said go to TP.

duncan and manu bailed his ass out....

i dont give a shit, if you sucked for 3 quarters and show up in the 4th....ur contribution for the win was good, but dont act like u won the game for us.

[Biggems]

Including this win, I hope we can start out 4-1 on the Rodeo trip

We have Denver, Boston, NJ, and Toronto coming up before the All-Star Break

[Thompson]

I just want to know why at the end of the game with Manu, Mason, Finley, and KT on the floor, we chose (twice) to pass it in to Parker to shoot foul shots. Especially after Parker had missed two shots earlier at one point, and had not had a good night at the line. Sure enough, he missed two of them.

Manu, Mason, Finley, (KT?) are all better free throw shooters, what the hell was that?

[2centsworth]

about as bad as I have seen TP play this year and he still fills up the stat sheet. Almost every PG in the league would love to average a TP poor performance.

Manu is back so we have a chance. Now make him disappear and come back in April.

[spurastic]

I think I'll skip the game thread tomorrow because beating Denver in Denver after an OT road Warriors game will be very tough, and I can't stand the constant whining whenever we are behind.

We've been behind against bad teams in the 2nd/3rd quarters in most games this year, and yet we've won over 90% of those games by nutting up in the 4th, and yet so many fans still whinge their arses off when we get behind. It's getting rather tiresome.

what he said +1

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

He did not have a "poor game". He had a rough game by his standards, but he still finished well and hung in tough. I also said go to TP, in fact, I said it before you!

He had a poor game until the mid 4th but hung in there and finished well, I agree. He was still pretty terrible for 3 Qs, as was George.

The reason we turned the ball over all night was largely due to the disappearance of our PGs, which means other players make a lot of inadvisable plays. I'm not hating on TP, I'm not a hater, just calling it as it was.

[tp2021]

Timmy, Tony, and Manu...


It's TMT, they're dy-no-mite!

[Manufan909]

I think I'll skip the game thread tomorrow because beating Denver in Denver after an OT road Warriors game will be very tough, and I can't stand the constant whining whenever we are behind.

We've been behind against bad teams in the 2nd/3rd quarters in most games this year, and yet we've won over 90% of those games by nutting up in the 4th, and yet so many fans still whinge their arses off when we get behind. It's getting rather tiresome.

+1

Bitching is never not lame. Expressing dislike without cussing out players is possible, but one would'nt know that from this forum.:bang

tx2step declaring that Tim was Turiaf's bitch was especially pathetic.

I't always god when the Spurs are down though, cuz Shadflames pussys out and I don't have to listen to him anymore, til they win, that is.:ihit

[2centsworth]

Mason has gotten progressively worse over the past month. He needs to figure out how to find and take good shots.

[raspsa]

I just want to know why at the end of the game with Manu, Mason, Finley, and KT on the floor, we chose (twice) to pass it in to Parker to shoot foul shots. Especially after Parker had missed shots earlier at one point, and had not had a good night at the line. Sure enough, he missed two of them.

Manu, Mason, Finley, (KT?) are all better free throw shooters, what the hell was that?

Might hurt TP's feelings if they don't pass him the ball? He's still shaky shooting FTs when the game is on the line.

[Solid D]

The deal with Manu's play at the end of regulation was when Manu twisted to go up, Turiaf kicked his leg out and got Manu with it. The officials caught it.

The Bowen no call on Jack was very close and could have been called a foul on Bruce. Bruce got a piece of the ball swiping down and then caught Jack's wrist. Sometimes the refs call it even if the defender hits the ball first but not this time.

[DPG21920]

He had a poor game until the mid 4th but hung in there and finished well, I agree. He was still pretty terrible for 3 Qs, as was George.

The reason we turned the ball over all night was largely due to the disappearance of our PGs, which means other players make a lot of inadvisable plays. I'm not hating on TP, I'm not a hater, just calling it as it was.

I know you are not hating on him, just trying to put into perspective how special TP is. Even his sub par games are nice, and he is as tough as nails. Something he does not get a lot of credit for.

[InK]

My god those announcers have got to be the biggest pussies in town. How about two offensive fouls on Duncan in the second half that led to him fouling out.

That was a crucial play with 8 seconds left on the game. You just dont make calls like that unless its hard contact. I agree with them, Manu wasn't fouled. No reason to make a bitching fest out of it for the next 20 minutes regardless though.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

The announcers should have bitched about Stephen Jackson not passing to the open man to prevent going into overtime.

[pawe]

Now, rest up and get ready to type again for tomorrows Spurs vs Nuggets game "bloag"

[Thompson]

Mason has gotten progressively worse over the past month. He needs to figure out how to find and take good shots.

Yeah, I don't know what his deal is. He's not shooting very often, and if he misses he stops all together. Is he running to free himself up without the ball very much? Whenever I see him on offense he seems to be standing somewhere outside the 3 and not trying to get rid of his man. I hope Pop gives him his 'shoot or sit' speech if this keeps up.

[Budkin]

Damn - what the hell can you say? This team fucking rules.

[InK]

tx2step declaring that Tim was Turiaf's bitch was especially pathetic.



Lmfao, someone actually said that?

[Josepatches_]

I still don't understand why we didn't use TD when he was hot.It would be a easy win but he taked 9 shots in the first quarter when we were winning and only 3 in the second when the Warriors taked the lead.Maybe we wanted to play an overtime

[word]

Thank you lord. 20 turnovers and a win.

[Pauleta14]

He had a poor game until the mid 4th but hung in there and finished well, I agree. He was still pretty terrible for 3 Qs, as was George.

The reason we turned the ball over all night was largely due to the disappearance of our PGs, which means other players make a lot of inadvisable plays. I'm not hating on TP, I'm not a hater, just calling it as it was.

Great players stay in the game even if they strugle the first 3Qs, that's what Tony did!
A few years ago, he would have disappear...
He is allowed to have ups and downs, and overall there were more ups!

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

+1

Bitching is never not lame. Expressing dislike without cussing out players is possible, but one would'nt know that from this forum.:bang

tx2step declaring that Tim was Turiaf's bitch was especially pathetic.

I't always god when the Spurs are down though, cuz Shadflames pussys out and I don't have to listen to him anymore, til they win, that is.:ihit

Hell yes, that guy is a fucking tool. He quit mid 2nd Q today, as usual whenever we go down by more than 5 or so. What a fuckin wuss. And he doesn't understand why he's a bandwagoner.

I love that I'm on his ignore list! :lmao :lmao :lmao


I know you are not hating on him, just trying to put into perspective how special TP is. Even his sub par games are nice, and he is as tough as nails. Something he does not get a lot of credit for.

Yeah, fair call, good point. :tu :)

With about 8 to go I said I thought he'd score 8 straight or something because he'd been so poor and tends to own the end of the 4th when he's had an off game (done it numerous times this year). He didn't score 8 straight, but he did play very well to end the game. Props to TP for his clutchability! :toast

[TDMVPDPOY]

Great players stay in the game even if they strugle the first 3Qs, that's what Tony did!
A few years ago, he would have disappear...
He is allowed to have ups and downs, and overall there were more ups!

mate he can up and down at home all he wants with eva, but on the spurs no up and down shit, we only go up up up and away.....:flag:

[2centsworth]

Yeah, I don't know what his deal is. He's not shooting very often, and if he misses he stops all together. Is he running to free himself up without the ball very much? Whenever I see him on offense he seems to be standing somewhere outside the 3 and not trying to get rid of his man. I hope Pop gives him his 'shoot or sit' speech if this keeps up.

having the red light is fine, but as you said he needs to move without the ball to get good shots. seems like all his shots are tough. maybe he's afraid he can't finish at the rim.

[EricB]

Whats funny is people are gonna bitch about this win, when its games like this that build championship teams.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I still don't understand why we didn't use TD when he was hot.It would be a easy win but he taked 9 shots in the first quarter when we were winning and only 3 in the second when the Warriors taked the lead.Maybe we wanted to play an overtime

I think Pop wanted maybe to get the rest of the team involved or something.... Or he was just messing around with his love for smallball.

[milkyway21]

Spurs won their fourth straight, ninth in 10 games overall and third straight on the road:tu

next: Denver(Melo is back).

[mVp]

Manu is fucking clutch.

Tony's free throw shooting sucks.

Timmy just did what he always does.

Nothing new from this game :wakeup

[EricB]

Manu is fucking clutch.

Tony's free throw shooting sucks.

Timmy just did what he always does.

Nothing new from this game :wakeup

Yeah those 80% free throw shooters stink.

[2centsworth]

Manu is fucking clutch.

Tony's free throw shooting sucks.

Timmy just did what he always does.

Nothing new from this game :wakeup

this is how ducks and sequ were created. Love Manu, but I would give a toe to have him be as consistent as Tony.

[boutons_]

". 20 turnovers and a win"

the 02/03 NBA champions famously avg'd about 20 TOs game IIRC, many games with 25 TOs. They probably would have one 5 or 6 more season games excep for the TOs.

[it's me]

Yeah those 80% free throw shooters stink.

It isn't the % that stinks .... is the timming.

[milkyway21]

:tu to SJax : 33 pts, 5 rbds & 11 assts

[2centsworth]

It isn't the % that stinks .... is the timming.

you mean when we're up by 5? How about the game tying basket, was that timely?

[EricB]

It isn't the % that stinks .... is the timming.


The timming?

or the Timing?

You mean when they are up 3 to put em up 5 in OT?

Yeah timing stinks.

He only played 43 minutes BTW when he missed both, couldn't have been he was tired could it?

Nahhhhh.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

this is how ducks and sequ were created. Love Manu, but I would give a toe to have him be as consistent as Tony.

The only time I saw Manu consistent as Tony in the regular season was last year when he avg 20 PPG. I don't think he has the scorer mentality like Tony He'll either give us 20 points off 8 shots zero TO's, with FT's, or 8 points off 8 shots.

[mVp]

Just as you know, I wasn't hating on Tony, if I were hating on him I'd be talking about his 6 TO's lol

He did OK... but I don't wanna see him shooting free throws in crunch time, when you have Mason and Manu on the court, WTF was that???

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

It isn't the % that stinks .... is the timming.
You are right. Tony still sucks at critical FT's like Tim. He always is shaky in critical minutes. I think it's mental and also mechanics.
He's streaky just like Tim, and we know Tim is still a clutch player so I still see Tony as a clutch performer. I think Tony just suffers from the same problem Timmy does at the line, i don't think he's as focused/steady as Manu and other clutch FT shooters.

[2centsworth]

The only time I saw Manu consistent as Tony in the regular season was last year when he avg 20 PPG. I don't think he has the scorer mentality like Tony He'll either give us 20 points off 8 shots zero TO's, with FT's, or 8 points off 8 shots.

I'm not tearing down Manu, especially to reasonable fans such as yourself. It's the haters who are spurs fans that I target.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I'm not tearing down Manu, especially to reasonable fans such as yourself. It's the haters who are spurs fans that I target.

Gotcha. I don't know why people are picking on any of the Big 3 tonight. They all didn't play perfect.

[2centsworth]

You are right. Tony still sucks at critical FT's like Tim. He always is shaky in critical minutes. I think it's mental and also mechanics.
He's streaky just like Tim, and we know Tim is still a clutch player so I still see Tony as a clutch performer. I think Tony just suffers from the same problem Timmy does at the line, i don't think he's as focused/steady as Manu and other clutch FT shooters.

Tony is a center in a PGs body. I swear he finishes around the basket better than even Tim.

[it's me]

The timming?

or the Timing?

You mean when they are up 3 to put em up 5 in OT?

Yeah timing stinks.

He only played 43 minutes BTW when he missed both, couldn't have been he was tired could it?

Nahhhhh.

Sorry english teacher.... It isn't my native lenguage... and you are a moron ... the point is why is he holding the ball instead of passing it to the proven clutch FT guys.

[EricB]

You are right. Tony still sucks at critical FT's like Tim. He always is shaky in critical minutes. I think it's mental and also mechanics.
He's streaky just like Tim, and we know Tim is still a clutch player so I still see Tony as a clutch performer. I think Tony just suffers from the same problem Timmy does at the line, i don't think he's as focused/steady as Manu and other clutch FT shooters.


:lol

Again, the guy had played 43 minutes, and he just made 2 fts earlier to put em up 5.

What game are you people watching ?

[arial]

damn bring it on and take some photos to share with us all!

Here's a few pics from my god awful camera.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8210/pict0102me2.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5919/pict0103vb3.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4926/pict0104jf0.jpg

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:flag::flag::flag:

[EricB]

Sorry english teacher.... It isn't my native lenguage... and you are a moron ... the point is why is he holding the ball instead of passing it to the proven clutch FT guys.

Because he wants the free throws and wants to make them.

I'm sorry that 1C on the team wanted to make the clutch shots.

Get over yourself.

[timvp]

Not to rain on the parade but Parker was 75% (15-for-20) at the line in clutch situations before this game. I'll take that every year from Parker.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Gotcha. I don't know why people are picking on any of the Big 3 tonight. They all didn't play perfect.

tim duncan is always perfect when his playin with 5 fouls compared to 1 foul for some reason.....thats 4-5 good games he had this season playin with 5 fouls or games that went into double-OT

[Yorae]

Can he start the game with 5 fouls?

[EricB]

Just as you know, I wasn't hating on Tony, if I were hating on him I'd be talking about his 6 TO's lol

He did OK... but I don't wanna see him shooting free throws in crunch time, when you have Mason and Manu on the court, WTF was that???


yeah he did just ok, 20 some odd points 7 assists.

:lol

You people need to learn the game.

[it's me]

Because he wants the free throws and wants to make them.

I'm sorry that 1C on the team wanted to make the clutch shots.

Get over yourself.

WTF???? Do I have to get over myself????? :lmao

[EricB]

Not to rain on the parade but Parker was 75% (15-for-20) at the line in clutch situations before this game. I'll take that every year from Parker.


BUTS HES NOT CLUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[duncan228]

Thanks for sharing the pics arial.

[2centsworth]

yeah he did just ok, 20 some odd points 7 assists.

:lol

You people need to learn the game.

to be honest, the haters are paying Tony the highest of compliments. 23(?) and 7 with 6tos is horrible for Tony. 9 out of 10 pgs in the league would give a nut for that stat line.

[EricB]

to be honest, the haters are paying Tony the highest of compliments. 23(?) and 7 with 6tos is horrible for Tony. 9 out of 10 pgs in the league would give a nut for that stat line.

Of course they would.

The great fans of this team though love to bash parker.

He could have 35 and 15 and they would bitch that he scored too much and should've had 20 assists.

[2centsworth]

Not to rain on the parade but Parker was 75% (15-for-20) at the line in clutch situations before this game. I'll take that every year from Parker.

is missing 2 when your up by 5 with 19secs left a clutch situation?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Not to rain on the parade but Parker was 75% (15-for-20) at the line in clutch situations before this game. I'll take that every year from Parker.

If that's from this year, then I haven't been watching enough regular season games. All I know is I remember a lot of times just from watching the games over the past seasons, where Tony has clanked a lot of FT's in close situations / and non close situations, which is why they always had to give the rock up to anyone but Manu , Fin and Barry.

I didn't know he was shooting 80 percent this year over last year's 71 so maybe he's improved since last year because I noticed Pop allowing Tony to get fouled to ice the game.

[Thompson]

:lol

Again, the guy had played 43 minutes, and he just made 2 fts earlier to put em up 5.

What game are you people watching ?

The one in which Tony shot 7/12 (58%) from the line. I'm not trying to dis Tony, I love the guy (Manu too, sheesh), but there are better players to inbound the ball to when they're going to shoot free throws. Finley, Ginobili, Mason. The Warriors were hitting a couple clutch baskets, why even screw around or risk it? You put your best % free throw shooter at the line, and (meaning no disrespect to him) that isn't Parker. He hit two free throws, then he missed two. That's 50%, and it's why Mason, Finley, or Ginobili should have had the ball.

[2centsworth]

Of course they would.

The great fans of this team though love to bash parker.

He could have 35 and 15 and they would bitch that he scored too much and should've had 20 assists.

how blind do people have to be to not see how freakish Tony is. 6'2" and earns a living in the paint:lol. do they not see how hard it is for our bigs and other guards to score down there?

[timvp]

is missing 2 when your up by 5 with 19secs left a clutch situation?Yeah. The criteria is in the final five minutes of the game or in overtime with the score separated by five points or less.

[TDMVPDPOY]

BUTS HES NOT CLUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its simple man, there are players on this team we dont trust at all whether its in the clutch or final minute of the game.

tony i dont trust him at the ft line in the clutch (he is bound to miss just like duncan, players can streaky at times)

manu i dont trust him on defense in the clutch, his bound to do something stupid....even on offense sometimes like a turn over or not getting to the line, but he can definitely shoot at the line.

bonner costs us 3 games when plays were written for him or he was guy open to take the shot and stinked it when it matter....

tim duncan gets a pass on everything whatever he does.....

rest of the players cant comment on cause they are never in position to get a final shot or final play....besides mason...but i leave it at that.

[EricB]

The one in which Tony shot 7/12 (58%) from the line. I'm not trying to dis Tony, I love the guy (Manu too, sheesh), but there are better players to inbound the ball to when they're going to shoot free throws. Finley, Ginobili, Mason. The Warriors were hitting a couple clutch baskets, why even screw around or risk it? You put your best % free throw shooter at the line, and (meaning no disrespect to him) that isn't Parker. He hit two free throws, then he missed two. That's 50%, and it's why Mason, Finley, or Ginobili should have had the ball.


Yeah that half a second he held the ball when it was thrown at him, he should've passed it :lol

You people are incredible.

[duncan228]

Winning wall.

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/wallpaper_090202_1024.jpg

[EricB]

its simple man, there are players on this team we dont trust at all whether its in the clutch or final minute of the game.

tony i dont trust him at the ft line in the clutch (he is bound to miss just like duncan, players can streaky at times)

manu i dont trust him on defense in the clutch, his bound to do something stupid....even on offense sometimes like a turn over or not getting to the line, but he can definitely shoot at the line.

bonner costs us 3 games when plays were written for him or he was guy open to take the shot and stinked it when it matter....

tim duncan gets a pass on everything whatever he does.....

rest of the players cant comment on cause they are never in position to get a final shot or final play....besides mason...but i leave it at that.


God where is the clip from Billy Madison where the judge tells him we all are now dumber for hearing that?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Of course they would.

The great fans of this team though love to bash parker.

He could have 35 and 15 and they would bitch that he scored too much and should've had 20 assists.

There is Hate, and there is homerism on the other end.

This thread is really really mild on from what I've seen in Tony Parker "hate."

The only thing worse than blind hate, is inability comment on possible weaknesses of our players. Even Timmy has his Tim Bumpkin moments some games. People were just asking why Tony was put on the line, because some weren't used to it.

[timvp]

The one in which Tony shot 7/12 (58%) from the line. I'm not trying to dis Tony, I love the guy (Manu too, sheesh), but there are better players to inbound the ball to when they're going to shoot free throws. Finley, Ginobili, Mason. The Warriors were hitting a couple clutch baskets, why even screw around or risk it? You put your best % free throw shooter at the line, and (meaning no disrespect to him) that isn't Parker. He hit two free throws, then he missed two. That's 50%, and it's why Mason, Finley, or Ginobili should have had the ball.Are Spurs fans even watching games anymore? Not sure why I have to point it out but when TP missed both free throws, it wasn't off of an inbounds play. It was after a GS miss, KT got the rebound and, IIRC, passed it to Manu who then passed it to TP. If you don't want TP having the ball in that situation, the blame goes to Manu for passing it to TP. But I'm not going to blame Manu in that situation because he's trying to burn off more time and TP had just hit two.

But yeah, whatever. The Spurs gut out a victory and we have Spurs fans arguing over two late free throws that didn't mean anything.

Lame :td

[EricB]

There is Hate, and there is homerism on the other end.

This thread is really really mild on from what I've seen in Tony Parker "hate."

The only thing worse than blind hate, is inability comment on possible weaknesses of our players. Even Timmy has his Tim Bumpkin moments some games. People were just asking why Tony was put on the line, because some weren't used to it.


He was put on the line cause he got thrown the ball quickly an held it for a millisecond and was fouled.

People weren't asking, they were screaming for the god Ginobili to get the ball.

[timaios]

The one in which Tony shot 7/12 (58%) from the line. I'm not trying to dis Tony, I love the guy (Manu too, sheesh), but there are better players to inbound the ball to when they're going to shoot free throws. Finley, Ginobili, Mason. The Warriors were hitting a couple clutch baskets, why even screw around or risk it? You put your best % free throw shooter at the line, and (meaning no disrespect to him) that isn't Parker. He hit two free throws, then he missed two. That's 50%, and it's why Mason, Finley, or Ginobili should have had the ball.

At the end of the game, when TP get to the line it was from an inbound pass and he made both FT.
The second time it was after a defensive rebound, KT gave the ball to TP and Golden State fouled him immediately. There was no other option. He missed both FT.
Obviously it was not a great game from TP. You can't be great every night.

[it's me]

how blind do people have to be to not see how freakish Tony is. 6'2" and earns a living in the paint:lol. do they not see how hard it is for our bigs and other guards to score down there?

Who is actually blind? Tony is AWSOME... we are discusing an specific situation... don't try to get to the line in clutch having three PROVEN clutch FT shooters. that's all.

Get over yourselves :toast

[EricB]

Are Spurs fans even watching games anymore? Not sure why I have to point it out but when TP missed both free throws, it wasn't off of an inbounds play. It was after a GS miss, KT got the rebound and, IIRC, passed it to Manu who then passed it to TP. If you don't want TP having the ball in that situation, the blame goes to Manu for passing it to TP. But I'm not going to blame Manu in that situation because he's trying to burn off more time and TP had just hit two.

But yeah, whatever. The Spurs gut out a victory and we have Spurs fans arguing over two late free throws that didn't mean anything.

Lame :td



Anything to tear down Tony Parker.

I can't wait till he does leave in FA and were left with Greg Sutton like point guards to see if these morons stick around and say "boy guess that Parker guy was ok...."

[EricB]

Who is actually blind? Tony is AWSOME... we are discusing an specific situation... don't try to get to the line in clutch having three PROVEN clutch FT shooters. that's all.

Get over yourselves :toast


So Parker once he got the pass from Ginobili should've thrown the ball away milliseconds later because by YOU guy's definition, hes not a clutch shooter.

[Thompson]

Yeah that half a second he held the ball when it was thrown at him, he should've passed it :lol

You people are incredible.

I'm saying they shouldn't have passed it to him in the first place Einstein.

I'm at a loss here. I'm not saying Parker isn't great (he is). I'm not saying he isn't clutch (as he proved in this game alone scoring that acrobatic shot among others), he is. Free throw shooting is not his forte, however. I don't care if he's 300 times better than Michael Jordan. If he's not shooting well from the line, and you have 3 guys on the floor who shoot in the upper 80's on free throws, give it to the other guys. It's not an insult to Parker. I love Parker, he's awesome. It's very simple, basic statistical strategy.

THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON PARKER. I FREAKING LOVE HIM, OK?!!!

[it's me]

So Parker once he got the pass from Ginobili should've thrown the ball away milliseconds later because by YOU guy's definition, hes not a clutch shooter.

I give up... you are the man partner... you have all answers.


great win:flag:

[TDMVPDPOY]

ppl just dont like to see parker at the line to redeem himself after having 2 missed ftas

now had he missed those fta again....do you expect there be peace on the boards here now?

[2centsworth]

Anything to tear down Tony Parker.

I can't wait till he does leave in FA and were left with Greg Sutton like point guards to see if these morons stick around and say "boy guess that Parker guy was ok...."

don't overdue it. the hate only comes from this board, because it's easy access for the Argentinians. In San Antonio Tony is royalty.

[Yorae]

45 pages! Keep it coming!

[EricB]

I give up... you are the man partner... you have all answers.


great win:flag:


So in other words you have no answer.

Thanks for giving up quickly.

[circles_eternal]

hey everyone, longtime lurker here - i went to my first spurs game tonight and i couldn't have asked for a better one! i didn't care if i was the only spurs fan hollering in the vicinity (although my roommate kept calming me down because she didn't wanna get jumped after the game)! it felt awesome to stick it to those warriors fans, especially since i've been getting crap from them and lakers fans here in CA ever since i can remember.

go spurs go!

[EricB]

I'm saying they shouldn't have passed it to him in the first place Einstein.

I'm at a loss here. I'm not saying Parker isn't great (he is). I'm not saying he isn't clutch (as he proved in this game alone scoring that acrobatic shot among others), he is. Free throw shooting is not his forte, however. I don't care if he's 300 times better than Michael Jordan. If he's not shooting well from the line, and you have 3 guys on the floor who shoot in the upper 80's on free throws, give it to the other guys. It's not an insult to Parker. I love Parker, he's awesome. It's very simple, basic statistical strategy.

THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON PARKER. I FREAKING LOVE HIM, OK?!!!


Cool, let Manu Ginobili know that next time.

Even though Parker before that had just made 2 very clutch free throws.

[it's me]

don't overdue it. the hate only comes from this board, because it's easy access for the Argentinians. In San Antonio Tony is royalty.

WOW the race card now???? :lol yea F'king Argentinians.

[2centsworth]

I'm saying they shouldn't have passed it to him in the first place Einstein.

I'm at a loss here. I'm not saying Parker isn't great (he is). I'm not saying he isn't clutch (as he proved in this game alone scoring that acrobatic shot among others), he is. Free throw shooting is not his forte, however. I don't care if he's 300 times better than Michael Jordan. If he's not shooting well from the line, and you have 3 guys on the floor who shoot in the upper 80's on free throws, give it to the other guys. It's not an insult to Parker. I love Parker, he's awesome. It's very simple, basic statistical strategy.

THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON PARKER. I FREAKING LOVE HIM, OK?!!!

Spurs were up by 5 with 19 secs. they weren't clutch fts. they could have taken a chance with anyone at that point. He missed them, I think, because he didn't give a crap at that point. I never seen anyone take two quicker ft attempts.

now if we're up by 2 or 3, I can somehow see the point, but I believe it was unavoidable in this situation without turning the ball over.

[EricB]

hey everyone, longtime lurker here - i went to my first spurs game tonight and i couldn't have asked for a better one! i didn't care if i was the only spurs fan hollering in the vicinity (although my roommate kept calming me down because she didn't wanna get jumped after the game)! it felt awesome to stick it to those warriors fans, especially since i've been getting crap from them and lakers fans here in CA ever since i can remember.

go spurs go!

Laker fans, understood.

Warrior fan? Tell that loser to get bent, they have zero smack to run at you.

[mVp]

If that's from this year, then I haven't been watching enough regular season games. All I know is I remember a lot of times just from watching the games over the past seasons, where Tony has clanked a lot of FT's in close situations / and non close situations, which is why they always had to give the rock up to anyone but Manu , Fin and Barry.

I didn't know he was shooting 80 percent this year over last year's 71 so maybe he's improved since last year because I noticed Pop allowing Tony to get fouled to ice the game.

Bingo... That's what I was talking about, no more, no less... but there some fans here that make a big deal out of nothing! they must be new, and don't know who have been shooting our free throws in late game situations... or they're just blind Tony homers :wakeup

[timvp]

hey everyone, longtime lurker here - i went to my first spurs game tonight and i couldn't have asked for a better one! i didn't care if i was the only spurs fan hollering in the vicinity (although my roommate kept calming me down because she didn't wanna get jumped after the game)! it felt awesome to stick it to those warriors fans, especially since i've been getting crap from them and lakers fans here in CA ever since i can remember.

go spurs go!
Congrats on your first game.


P.S.

Nice pics, arial.

[2centsworth]

WOW the race card now???? :lol yea F'king Argentinians.

:drunk

[Thompson]

Are Spurs fans even watching games anymore? Not sure why I have to point it out but when TP missed both free throws, it wasn't off of an inbounds play. It was after a GS miss, KT got the rebound and, IIRC, passed it to Manu who then passed it to TP. If you don't want TP having the ball in that situation, the blame goes to Manu for passing it to TP. But I'm not going to blame Manu in that situation because he's trying to burn off more time and TP had just hit two.

But yeah, whatever. The Spurs gut out a victory and we have Spurs fans arguing over two late free throws that didn't mean anything.

Lame :td

Hindsight is 20/20. Tony made the two free throws when they inbounded the ball to him, therefore they should have inbounded the ball to him? They should play the percentages in that situation and pass it to Mason, Ginobili, or Finley.

I know what Manu was trying to do in that last situation; that one doesn't bother me as much. For crying out loud, I'm just saying when they inbound the ball in a tight game (in the future), and they know the player is going to be fouled, should they inbound to Mason, Ginobili, Finley, or Parker when Parker is having an off night at the line? Given the choice, any of the other 3. Parker would probably make them anyway, but play the percentages. Parker is still awesome. My Gosh.

[EricB]

Bingo... That's what I was talking about, no more, no less... but there some fans here that make a big deal out of nothing! they must be new, and don't know who have been shooting our free throws in late game situations... or they're just blind Tony homers :wakeup

:lol

Yeah, blind tony homers make up the 75% clutch free throw shooting

:lol

Whatever makes you guys cling to the weak arguement to begin with.

[EricB]

Hindsight is 20/20. Tony made the two free throws when they inbounded the ball to him, therefore they should have inbounded the ball to him? They should play the percentages in that situation and pass it to Mason, Ginobili, or Finley.

I know what Manu was trying to do in that last situation; that one doesn't bother me as much. For crying out loud, I'm just saying when they inbound the ball in a tight game (in the future), and they know the player is going to be fouled, should they inbound to Mason, Ginobili, Finley, or Parker when Parker is having an off night at the line? Given the choice, any of the other 3. Parker would probably make them anyway, but play the percentages. Parker is still awesome. My Gosh.


:lmao

crawdad aint just a fish thats in season in march.....

[Thompson]

Spurs were up by 5 with 19 secs.

And the odds of anyone coming back from that are small, I understand; but they're still there. The Warriors especially can get streaky from 3. I'd rather play it safe and eliminate any possibility of a loss, as much as possible.

[2centsworth]

Bingo... That's what I was talking about, no more, no less... but there some fans here that make a big deal out of nothing! they must be new, and don't know who have been shooting our free throws in late game situations... or they're just blind Tony homers :wakeup

no, you guys are just nitpickers when it comes to Tony. If we're going to nitpick, when Manu is pushing it up the court and has an advantage, not getting the ball to Tony is a huge mistake. If Tony regularly does 1 on 5 breaks, what makes Manu think tony can't take one guy on the wing?

[Thompson]

:lmao

crawdad aint just a fish thats in season in march.....

OK, you're going to have to explain that one to me. I don't get it.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Bingo... That's what I was talking about, no more, no less... but there some fans here that make a big deal out of nothing! they must be new, and don't know who have been shooting our free throws in late game situations... or they're just blind Tony homers :wakeup
Yeah I don't understand it. It's not a big deal to say that some aren't used to seeing Tony ice games with FT's. I also remember the FT's he missed for France a year ago on more than one occasion. But people seem to go bonkers and get offended.

Let's just say I have held my breathe in the past at least, when Tony's been at the line during critical moments, the same as I still hold my breathe when we're holding serve and Manu's one of the five defenders, when we need a defensive play to seal the game. It comes from experience watching the games. It has nothing to do with hate or stats on paper. :lol

[2centsworth]

And the odds of anyone coming back from that are small, I understand; but they're still there. The Warriors especially can get streaky from 3. I'd rather play it safe and eliminate any possibility of a loss, as much as possible.

they did eliminate the possibility by protecting the ball. Looking for a FT shooter when scrambling to save the ball was a riskier play. Give me Tony 10 out of 10 times in that situation

[EricB]

And the odds of anyone coming back from that are small, I understand; but they're still there. The Warriors especially can get streaky from 3. I'd rather play it safe and eliminate any possibility of a loss, as much as possible.


Awesome, play keep away from one of the 5 best point guards in the game.

Sound strategy.

[EricB]

Yeah I don't understand it. It's not a big deal to say that some aren't used to seeing Tony ice games with FT's. I also remember the FT's he missed for France a year ago on more than one occasion. But people seem to go bonkers and get offended.

Let's just say I have held my breathe in the past at least, when Tony's been at the line during critical moments, the same as I still hold my breathe when we're holding serve and Manu's one of the five defenders, when we need a defensive play to seal the game. It comes from experience watching the games. It has nothing to do with hate or stats on paper. :lol


That wasn't what was said at all.

[timvp]

I know what Manu was trying to do in that last situation; that one doesn't bother me as much. For crying out loud, I'm just saying when they inbound the ball in a tight game (in the future), and they know the player is going to be fouled, should they inbound to Mason, Ginobili, Finley, or Parker when Parker is having an off night at the line? Given the choice, any of the other 3. Parker would probably make them anyway, but play the percentages. Parker is still awesome. My Gosh.I agree with the point that the free throw pecking order should go Manu > Mason > Finley. Why Pop drew up a play for Parker to get the inbounds pass? Don't know. Manu was at the far three-point line with his hands on his knees. Perhaps Pop thought Manu was tired.

[2centsworth]

Awesome, play keep away from one of the 5 best point guards in the game.

Sound strategy.

you are Tpark aren't you.

[Thompson]

they did eliminate the possibility by protecting the ball. Looking for a FT shooter when scrambling to save the ball was a riskier play. Give me Tony 10 out of 10 times in that situation

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the play when they were killing time is different, and more difficult, I understand. I don't really have much of a problem with that. I'm more concerned about inbounding it directly to a 75% free throw shooter who's having an off night at the line when there are 3 upper 80's guys also out there.

[EricB]

you are Tpark aren't you.

?

What does that have to do with the above game thread? :lol



The Spurs have very very prime oppurtunity now to catch up with the Lakers and REALLY stretch out the division lead now with Chris Paul straining his groin.

The Hornets are gonna really really feel the pain of that one.

I remember though alot of people banking on that team being healthy AGAIN for a full 82 game season haha.

[EricB]

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the play when they were killing time is different, and more difficult, I understand. I don't really have much of a problem with that. I'm more concerned about inbounding it directly to a 75% free throw shooter who's having an off night at the line when there are 3 upper 80's guys also out there.


Can't improve unless you get chances.

I don't understand why its such a horriblething Parker gets a chance at it.

You guys are acting like they inbounded the ball to Bruce Bowen.

[2centsworth]

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the play when they were killing time is different, and more difficult, I understand. I don't really have much of a problem with that. I'm more concerned about inbounding it directly to a 75% free throw shooter who's having an off night at the line when there are 3 upper 80's guys also out there.

I'm cool with that.

[Thompson]

Can't improve unless you get chances.

I don't understand why its such a horriblething Parker gets a chance at it.

You guys are acting like they inbounded the ball to Bruce Bowen.

It's not the most horrible thing in the world. I would just prefer player X who typically shoots 85% at the free throw line to shoot vs. player Y who's shooting only 63% (5 of 8) so far that night. Especially if there's even a slight chance it will affect who wins the game. That's all.

I still don't understand the crawfish remark, but whatever.

I still love player Y. I'm just playing the percentages. Glad we won. GSG, etc.

[erikuff]

I haven't been to a Spurs game in a long while, it was a great game to go to. In my opinion, we got lucky on a lot of calls near the end, but they went both ways really. I was one of the few Spurs fans brave enough to stand in overtime in my area. But seeing all these Warriors fans whine and complain made it feel great.
I'm just really glad Manu is picking up where he left off last season and becoming the Manu we know and love once again, at the perfect time.
:flag:

[ThaiFanofSpurs]

I admit Tony might not be that perfect at Clutch free throws. I still want him to take it more now before the playoff comes. Hopefully, he will get used to it fast and become another (as good as Manu) clutch free throw shooter in the playoff. It will help a lot because both Tony and Manu (other than Tim) are our best players at getting to the rim. Just a thought!

[InK]

I'm saying they shouldn't have passed it to him in the first place Einstein.

I'm at a loss here. I'm not saying Parker isn't great (he is). I'm not saying he isn't clutch (as he proved in this game alone scoring that acrobatic shot among others), he is. Free throw shooting is not his forte, however. I don't care if he's 300 times better than Michael Jordan. If he's not shooting well from the line, and you have 3 guys on the floor who shoot in the upper 80's on free throws, give it to the other guys. It's not an insult to Parker. I love Parker, he's awesome. It's very simple, basic statistical strategy.

THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON PARKER. I FREAKING LOVE HIM, OK?!!!

You know how it is around here. We got our Manu haters, our Tony haters, gotta be careful not to say too much specially after a game when one plays a bit better then the other. Usually thats when the haters come outta hiding and start with their dissing. This is just the usual knee-jerk reaction from the ppl tired of hearing this ( or the people for whom one or the other can do no wrong).

Its really silly that any negative comment about Tony has to start with:" i love the guy, but..." for it to be something else then blind hate, but it is how it is. Its a price to pay for all the dumb hate. I agree with you, i didnt understand the inbound pass to Tony as well, we are on back to backs, and were trying to put the game away as fast as possible. Whether he made both FT's or not doesnt really make the situation any more/less logical (but i love the guy ).

Like some other people here i do have a feeling that Tony's missed free throws come badly timed ( not that yesterday's game was an example of that; was more of an inconvinience then anything else). Someone said he made 0.750 in clutch situations this season, does anyone know what are his percentages in 3rd and 4th quarter for this season, and his entire career?

[ducks]

Not to rain on the parade but Parker was 75% (15-for-20) at the line in clutch situations before this game. I'll take that every year from Parker.

but he sucks
and since when did refs call traverling?

[BlackSwordsMan]

can't believe this mafakas won

[LaEliza]

don't overdue it. the hate only comes from this board, because it's easy access for the Argentinians. In San Antonio Tony is royalty.

:nope
really lame of you.
PS: in France there's no Internet?

[TampaDude]

A win is a win...GO SPURS GO!!! :flag: