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djohn2oo8
02-04-2009, 12:57 AM
Andre Johnson T.O.

http://assets.houstontexans.com/uploads/players/depth_chart/37.jpg vs. http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/TerrellOwens_090308_50.jpg

Andre Johnson just might be the best reciever in the NFL, close to Larry Fitgerald. AJ is in his prime, while T.O. is creepin up on Social Security.
Bottom Line: AJ is a professional on and off the field, and will continue to provide leadership in the locker room.


Mario Williams Cowboys Defense,or lack thereof

http://assets.houstontexans.com/uploads/players/depth_chart/208.jpg vs. http://my.opera.com/eztigma/tags/show.pl?tag=Cowboy%20Country

Mario has started to show why he was the #1 pick back in '06. Mario Williams generates more fear from opposing QB's than the entire cowboys defense. Dallas's defense was terrible last year, especially in the 44-6 blowout at philly. Give the Texans another pass rusher besides Mario, like an Everette Brown out of Florida state, or julius peppers, then defensive line will be fierce.

Matt Schaub Tony Romo

http://assets.houstontexans.com/uploads/players/depth_chart/282.jpg http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/138/440/thumb/Tony_Romo.jpg
vs.

All I have to say is give schaub a full, healthy season and texans will be in playoffs, unlike sir choke-a-lot at QB in dallas.


Head Coach Gary Kubiak Wade Phillips

http://www.1hardhats.com/all-sports-team-hard-hats/nflhats/pix/tn-houston.jpg http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/WadePhillips_show_102908_50.jpg
vs.


Bottom Line: Kubiak can control his locker room. Wade phillips can't.



Texans Safties Roy Williams

http://img.fannation.com/images-new/peter_king/50x51_helmets/texans_right.jpg vs.


Texans safties are decent, unlike Mr. Williams, who gets burned by a motorized scooter.


Texans needs in offseason: Cowboys offseason needs

Ballhawking safety, To cut T.O.
Defensive End, Break up Romo and Jess
Backup QB, Find a D.C.
Power Running Back Fire Wade Phillips
A miracle in the draft

stretch
02-04-2009, 08:06 AM
this thread is lamer than the shit stains in your underpants.

djohn2oo8
02-04-2009, 09:34 AM
I would be embarrassed for dallas sports too.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/uploads/terrell_cry.jpg http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/Cuban%20Dancing.jpg

http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/02/Urkel%20and%20Jones.JPG

http://www.nba.com/media/finals2006/onealWadeportrait_400_06062.jpg

should I go on???

peewee's lovechild
02-04-2009, 10:02 AM
Andre Johnson T.O.

http://assets.houstontexans.com/uploads/players/depth_chart/37.jpg vs. http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/TerrellOwens_090308_50.jpg

Andre Johnson just might be the best reciever in the NFL, close to Larry Fitgerald. AJ is in his prime, while T.O. is creepin up on Social Security.
Bottom Line: AJ is a professional on and off the field, and will continue to provide leadership in the locker room.


Mario Williams Cowboys Defense,or lack thereof

http://assets.houstontexans.com/uploads/players/depth_chart/208.jpg vs. http://my.opera.com/eztigma/tags/show.pl?tag=Cowboy%20Country

Mario has started to show why he was the #1 pick back in '06. Mario Williams generates more fear from opposing QB's than the entire cowboys defense. Dallas's defense was terrible last year, especially in the 44-6 blowout at philly. Give the Texans another pass rusher besides Mario, like an Everette Brown out of Florida state, or julius peppers, then defensive line will be fierce.

Matt Schaub Tony Romo

http://assets.houstontexans.com/uploads/players/depth_chart/282.jpg http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/138/440/thumb/Tony_Romo.jpg
vs.

All I have to say is give schaub a full, healthy season and texans will be in playoffs, unlike sir choke-a-lot at QB in dallas.


Head Coach Gary Kubiak Wade Phillips

http://www.1hardhats.com/all-sports-team-hard-hats/nflhats/pix/tn-houston.jpg http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/WadePhillips_show_102908_50.jpg
vs.


Bottom Line: Kubiak can control his locker room. Wade phillips can't.



Texans Safties Roy Williams

http://img.fannation.com/images-new/peter_king/50x51_helmets/texans_right.jpg vs.


Texans safties are decent, unlike Mr. Williams, who gets burned by a motorized scooter.


Texans needs in offseason: Cowboys offseason needs

Ballhawking safety, To cut T.O.
Defensive End, Break up Romo and Jess
Backup QB, Find a D.C.
Power Running Back Fire Wade Phillips
A miracle in the draft



I'll have to agree that the Texans overall seem to be in better shape than the Cowboys.

But, to say Mario Williams is better than anyone on the Cowboys defense is retarded. Demarcus Ware is better, though I believe that Williams is a beast and a force to be reckoned with.

Matt Shaub is not better than Romo. That's not even close. Shaub has proven nothing other than he can be counted on to miss half a season, every season.

Kubiak better than Phillips, who knows? They both have the same amount of playoff wins. But, at least Phillips has been to the playoffs. If your case is that Kubiak has better control of his team, I'll have to go with you on that one. But, as to which one is better, there's no way of knowing for sure.

Texans safetys better than Roy? Of course, who isn't. But, remember, Roy hardly played this year, so it's a moot point. However, the Cowboys have a better secondary than Houston.

What you didn't compare, because you have to ground to stand on, is that Dallas has better running backs.

I will agree with you that Houston has a better group of WRs. Johnson is much, much better than old man Owens. And, he's a much better teamate.

Overall, Houston has a good future. They need to make the playoffs this year to be legitimate. If they have another .500 season this year, Kubiak has to go.

Dallas, well, they've got problems with team chemistry. If they can rise above those issues, and that's probably why Reeves was brought in (it's embarrasing that Phillips and Garrett need a babysitter), they can make some noise in the playoffs.

As it is, this is the first year in a long, long time that I have no post season hopes for my team. It's depressing as all hell.

CubanMustGo
02-04-2009, 10:07 AM
I would be embarrassed for dallas sports too.


should I go on???

I'm no Dallas fan (see what it says over on the left), but it's not like Houston has done shit ever in anything besides win a couple of NBA championships when Jordan wanted to play baseball.

Football team - Oilers were the original chokers, Texans consider .500 a wonderful season
Baseball team - sucks, always has.
Basketball team - hasn't been relevant this century
College sports - they play college sports in Houston?

So if you're embarrassed for Dallas, feel free to be equally embarrassed for Houston.

stretch
02-04-2009, 10:19 AM
LMAO houston

IronMexican
02-04-2009, 10:33 AM
Lol, Houston & Dallas.

stretch
02-04-2009, 10:37 AM
lol, raiders

Spurminator
02-04-2009, 10:54 AM
That was a very objective analysis.

IronMexican
02-04-2009, 11:10 AM
Raiders have more wins than both these teams in the playoffs combined this decade.

djohn2oo8
02-04-2009, 11:11 AM
I'm no Dallas fan (see what it says over on the left), but it's not like Houston has done shit ever in anything besides win a couple of NBA championships when Jordan wanted to play baseball.

Football team - Oilers were the original chokers, Texans consider .500 a wonderful season
Baseball team - sucks, always has.
Basketball team - hasn't been relevant this century
College sports - they play college sports in Houston?

So if you're embarrassed for Dallas, feel free to be equally embarrassed for Houston.

Ok, if you want to use that logic, then san antonio championships are tainted as well since jordan retired right???

Dallas has more athletes arrested than any other sports town, and that's just from tyhe Cowboys alone.

Cowboys are a disgrace to the NFL.

Texans in the league for only 7 years but have shown true professionalism, far more than Dallas will ever know.

Astros: Brought World Series to Houston for first time

Houston: Hosted Super Bowl twice, mlb all star game, nba all star game, dynamo 2 championships, comets 4 championships.

djohn2oo8
02-04-2009, 11:14 AM
Jerry Jones should start a prison football team like in the longest yard. Oh wait, he already owns the cowboys.

2006 Finals: Mavs up 2-0, lose 4-2

IronMexican
02-04-2009, 11:29 AM
LA has the Trojans, Lakers, and Dodgers so LA>>>>>>Houston.

djohn2oo8
02-04-2009, 11:31 AM
LA has the Trojans, Lakers, and Dodgers so LA>>>>>>Houston.


This started as comparing two NFL teams, guess LA will have to wait for theirs.

IronMexican
02-04-2009, 11:33 AM
Raiders are our team.

stretch
02-04-2009, 12:07 PM
houston is gay

peewee's lovechild
02-04-2009, 12:11 PM
Raiders are our team.

You're in Oakland now?

peewee's lovechild
02-04-2009, 12:14 PM
Ok, if you want to use that logic, then san antonio championships are tainted as well since jordan retired right???

This is the stupidest statement I've ever read in my life.

What the fuck "logic" are you talking about?

IronMexican
02-04-2009, 12:14 PM
Raiders are LA's team too. You don't know how many people fly out every week from LAX to go to a game.

peewee's lovechild
02-04-2009, 12:17 PM
Raiders are LA's team too. You don't know how many people fly out every week from LAX to go to a game.

Last I heard, they're still called the Oakland Raiders.

I must've missed the special news conference where they announced that they moved to LA.

IronMexican
02-04-2009, 12:25 PM
They still are the LA Raiders to me.

peewee's lovechild
02-04-2009, 01:50 PM
They still are the LA Raiders to me.

Would that make you a Rams fan as well?

Dr. Gonzo
02-04-2009, 11:26 PM
Matt Shaub is not better than Romo. That's not even close. Shaub has proven nothing other than he can be counted on to miss half a season, every season.

I don't think it's as far off as you think. Their stats are very similar with the exception of passing TDs. One of the more important stats is that Schaub was 3-1 in December while Romo choked his team out of the playoffs. I know you will blame T.O. for that but if Romo had any kind of work ethic or leadership skills, he would be able to keep T.O. in line and not have the locker room divided.

As far as Schaub's health, he missed the same number of games as Romo this season.

The Texans franchise as a whole have way more upside than the Cowboys. The front office is way better and they don't have an owner that insists on being the GM as well.

samikeyp
02-05-2009, 08:52 AM
First off...:lmao @ trying to forget your own team's problems and make yourself feel better about them by pointing elsewhere.

Better than the Cowboys? No.

Since 2002:

Houston 40-72
Dallas 61-51

Dallas has been to the playoffs 3 times while the Texans have not been at all and while I agree getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round sucks, its better than not going at all. After all, the idea of sports is winning and, more specifically to pro sports, to win a championship and you can't do that unless you make the playoffs. Unless you are one of those dipshits that thinks not going to the playoffs is ok because you might lose a game. Much like some of the Lions fans I meet up here.

All that being said, however, IMex sums it up perfectly....


Raiders have more wins than both these teams in the playoffs combined this decade.

Bottom line is winning in the postseason and neither team has done that in this decade, everything else is irrelevant.

peewee's lovechild
02-05-2009, 10:37 AM
I don't think it's as far off as you think. Their stats are very similar with the exception of passing TDs. One of the more important stats is that Schaub was 3-1 in December while Romo choked his team out of the playoffs. I know you will blame T.O. for that but if Romo had any kind of work ethic or leadership skills, he would be able to keep T.O. in line and not have the locker room divided.

As far as Schaub's health, he missed the same number of games as Romo this season.

The Texans franchise as a whole have way more upside than the Cowboys. The front office is way better and they don't have an owner that insists on being the GM as well.

There's no way in hell you're going to believe that, at this point, Shaub is a better QB than Romo.

You're biased because you hate the Cowboys and because you think that Romo is, as you put it, "Hollywood".

But, I will remind you that you were calling on Sage Rosenfels to take the QB job several times. The truth is, Shaub hasn't proven a damn thing. To be fair, neither has Romo.

But, Romo has at least been to two playoff games. And, if you really want to compare stats, compare stats since they both became starters and get back to me.

Romo missing games was just this season. Shaub has missed games every season he's started.

However, like I said, I will agree that there seems to be more upside to the Texans, mainly because they don't have to deal with the chemistry issues that the Cowboys have.

peewee's lovechild
02-05-2009, 10:59 AM
Yeah, Kubiak is a brilliant coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3885900

HOUSTON -- When the Houston Texans' coaching staff announced to linemen that they would be running one-on-one blocking drills during minicamp last May, the rumbling started immediately, players say.



The NFL's rules about minicamp are spelled out in the collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association: no contact, no pads.



"There's a reason why these drills are prohibited in the offseason," said offensive guard Dan Stevenson. "Football is dangerous enough as it is."



But several sources told ESPN that even after the team's player representatives complained to head coach Gary Kubiak, the drills continued; and by the end of minicamp, three players had suffered season-ending injuries.



According to four players and a member of the team's front office who spoke on the condition of anonymity, Kubiak and his coaching staff conducted the drills despite the fact that players were not wearing pads. Their only protection, they said, was helmets.

"It was a live blocking drill. There were people getting pancaked. Everyone's going as hard as he can," Stevenson said.


Stevenson suffered a labrum tear in his shoulder that he feels might end his career.



"I was the third offensive lineman who was done for the season, just from that drill," offensive tackle Jordan Black said. "If nobody's going to stand up, it's just going to continue."



Black had surgery to repair a torn labrum, was released by the team in June and has since signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Stevenson also suffered a labrum tear in his right shoulder, and center Chukky Okobi suffered a triceps injury.




"I felt like, for my career, my occupation, my dreams, for all this to be taken away from me, to be jeopardized not for just one season but for my entire football career for something that wasn't supposed to be done -- I was upset," Stevenson said.



Okobi couldn't be reached for comment. Black and Stevenson said that while they accept football's injury risks, they are distressed that their seasons ended in a drill they say should not have happened. Okobi has not signed with a new club.



Stevenson and Black have labor grievances pending against the team, and Stevenson plans to sue the Texans.



Asked about the players' charges, team counsel Suzie Thomas wrote in an e-mail, "I am unable to comment, other than to say that information set forth ... is inaccurate." Kubiak did not return calls to his office at Reliant Stadium.



NFL and NFLPA officials said there is no specific punishment defined for a team that holds prohibited drills during a minicamp, and an NFL spokesman said the league was unaware of the complaint against the Texans until a call from ESPN.



Stevenson's current grievance is a "non-injury" complaint that relates to the minicamp drill. A previous injury grievance was denied by the NFL Management Council. In that rejection, the NFLMC cited numerous procedural problems with Stevenson's complaint.




One portion of the rejection letter, Stevenson said, read, "the Texans deny ... that 'players were required to participate in drills which are explicitly prohibited.' "



Once the team denied that the drill had taken place, Stevenson took a video camera into the Texans' meeting room and filmed the team's video of the workout. The video, which was provided to ESPN, shows what appears to be full-speed, full-contact drills.



Black and former Texans lineman Fred Weary also signed notarized affidavits supporting Stevenson's description of what took place during minicamp, from the complaints of the player representatives to Stevenson's shoulder injury.




The players said it is not uncommon for coaches on many teams to schedule such drills during minicamp, but it is unusual for coaches to proceed with the drills when players object.




Tom DePaso, associate general counsel for the NFLPA, said the union often hears complaints about offseason drills that violate the CBA.



"It's this classic thing in the offseason. Coaches really want to get started on the new season; and on the other hand, we need our guys to learn and they need to rest," DePaso said.



DePaso wouldn't specifically address the grievances against the Texans or the three players who received season-ending injuries.



"If that were the case," he said, "that would be extraordinary."


T. J. Quinn is an investigative reporter for ESPN. He can be reached at [email protected].

Jmoney
02-05-2009, 11:24 AM
Hey they lost some O-linemen that's good news!

That 0-line has been the most overpayed under productive unit since the Texans first hit the field. The turned a promising pocket passer into a nobody in just a few years. Imagine if the o-line had actually protected Carr. Now the new QB in town Matt S. is taking his turn in the barrel and getting injured every year. Sage even got injured.

Do you blame 3 qb's for getting banged the hell up or do you put some blame that in 7 years no team has ALLOWED more sacks than
the Texans.

benefactor
02-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah, Kubiak is a brilliant coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3885900

HOUSTON -- When the Houston Texans' coaching staff announced to linemen that they would be running one-on-one blocking drills during minicamp last May, the rumbling started immediately, players say.



The NFL's rules about minicamp are spelled out in the collective bargaining agreement with the NFL Players Association: no contact, no pads.



"There's a reason why these drills are prohibited in the offseason," said offensive guard Dan Stevenson. "Football is dangerous enough as it is."



But several sources told ESPN that even after the team's player representatives complained to head coach Gary Kubiak, the drills continued; and by the end of minicamp, three players had suffered season-ending injuries.



According to four players and a member of the team's front office who spoke on the condition of anonymity, Kubiak and his coaching staff conducted the drills despite the fact that players were not wearing pads. Their only protection, they said, was helmets.

"It was a live blocking drill. There were people getting pancaked. Everyone's going as hard as he can," Stevenson said.


Stevenson suffered a labrum tear in his shoulder that he feels might end his career.



"I was the third offensive lineman who was done for the season, just from that drill," offensive tackle Jordan Black said. "If nobody's going to stand up, it's just going to continue."



Black had surgery to repair a torn labrum, was released by the team in June and has since signed with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Stevenson also suffered a labrum tear in his right shoulder, and center Chukky Okobi suffered a triceps injury.




"I felt like, for my career, my occupation, my dreams, for all this to be taken away from me, to be jeopardized not for just one season but for my entire football career for something that wasn't supposed to be done -- I was upset," Stevenson said.



Okobi couldn't be reached for comment. Black and Stevenson said that while they accept football's injury risks, they are distressed that their seasons ended in a drill they say should not have happened. Okobi has not signed with a new club.



Stevenson and Black have labor grievances pending against the team, and Stevenson plans to sue the Texans.



Asked about the players' charges, team counsel Suzie Thomas wrote in an e-mail, "I am unable to comment, other than to say that information set forth ... is inaccurate." Kubiak did not return calls to his office at Reliant Stadium.



NFL and NFLPA officials said there is no specific punishment defined for a team that holds prohibited drills during a minicamp, and an NFL spokesman said the league was unaware of the complaint against the Texans until a call from ESPN.



Stevenson's current grievance is a "non-injury" complaint that relates to the minicamp drill. A previous injury grievance was denied by the NFL Management Council. In that rejection, the NFLMC cited numerous procedural problems with Stevenson's complaint.




One portion of the rejection letter, Stevenson said, read, "the Texans deny ... that 'players were required to participate in drills which are explicitly prohibited.' "



Once the team denied that the drill had taken place, Stevenson took a video camera into the Texans' meeting room and filmed the team's video of the workout. The video, which was provided to ESPN, shows what appears to be full-speed, full-contact drills.



Black and former Texans lineman Fred Weary also signed notarized affidavits supporting Stevenson's description of what took place during minicamp, from the complaints of the player representatives to Stevenson's shoulder injury.




The players said it is not uncommon for coaches on many teams to schedule such drills during minicamp, but it is unusual for coaches to proceed with the drills when players object.




Tom DePaso, associate general counsel for the NFLPA, said the union often hears complaints about offseason drills that violate the CBA.



"It's this classic thing in the offseason. Coaches really want to get started on the new season; and on the other hand, we need our guys to learn and they need to rest," DePaso said.



DePaso wouldn't specifically address the grievances against the Texans or the three players who received season-ending injuries.



"If that were the case," he said, "that would be extraordinary."


T. J. Quinn is an investigative reporter for ESPN. He can be reached at [email protected].
Meh. Golic said this morning on Mike & Mike that teams do this all the time. He said that it was not uncommon that you came out of these "non-contact" mini camps with all kinds of bumps and bruises. This can probably be chalked up to a freak thing.

djohn2oo8
02-06-2009, 12:58 AM
First off...:lmao @ trying to forget your own team's problems and make yourself feel better about them by pointing elsewhere.

Better than the Cowboys? No.

Since 2002:

Houston 40-72
Dallas 61-51

Dallas has been to the playoffs 3 times while the Texans have not been at all and while I agree getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round sucks, its better than not going at all. After all, the idea of sports is winning and, more specifically to pro sports, to win a championship and you can't do that unless you make the playoffs. Unless you are one of those dipshits that thinks not going to the playoffs is ok because you might lose a game. Much like some of the Lions fans I meet up here.

All that being said, however, IMex sums it up perfectly....



Bottom line is winning in the postseason and neither team has done that in this decade, everything else is irrelevant.


So, Jerry Jones hires inmates like tank johnson and pacman jones to play for them??? Not so smart was it??? Pacman is suspended again.. And T.O.??? GL with them

IronMexican
02-06-2009, 01:43 AM
Would that make you a Rams fan as well?

Nope. I don't root for the other LA teams just cause they are or were here. I'm not a Clipper, Angel, or Bruin fan either.

Harry Callahan
02-08-2009, 10:28 AM
The 9-7 record in Dallas was a by-product of injuries, inconsistency, and a few bad breaks along the way (Injuries to Romo and Felix Jones expecially). It was considered a BAD season. You'd think they went 2-14 the way people talk in Dallas.

A 9-7 record in Houston would be celebrated. This houston team has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in their seven years. Their biggest accomplishment is beating what was at the time a dreadful Cowboys team in 2002.

Dallas blew two games against the teams in the 2009 Super Bowl. The Cardinals (at Home) has to convert a third and 17 to stay in the game. The Steelers (at Home) had a field goal hit the upright and go through to get back in the game in the fourth quarter.

I acknowledge that Dallas was underwhelming this year, but I would not be surprised if they won a bunch of games next year. Houston needs to win more games than it loses before it is taken seriously.

monosylab1k
02-08-2009, 01:33 PM
2006 Finals: Mavs up 2-0, lose 4-2

2nd Round: Rockets - DNP

BSofA04
02-08-2009, 07:20 PM
The 9-7 record in Dallas was a by-product of injuries, inconsistency, and a few bad breaks along the way (Injuries to Romo and Felix Jones expecially). It was considered a BAD season. You'd think they went 2-14 the way people talk in Dallas.

A 9-7 record in Houston would be celebrated. This houston team has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in their seven years. Their biggest accomplishment is beating what was at the time a dreadful Cowboys team in 2002.

Dallas blew two games against the teams in the 2009 Super Bowl. The Cardinals (at Home) has to convert a third and 17 to stay in the game. The Steelers (at Home) had a field goal hit the upright and go through to get back in the game in the fourth quarter.

I acknowledge that Dallas was underwhelming this year, but I would not be surprised if they won a bunch of games next year. Houston needs to win more games than it loses before it is taken seriously.
As a Texan fan, I actually agree with your take. I think there's a lot of optimism in Houston for 2009, moreso than any other previous year. A lot of it is due to the big time victories in games we typically lose (Titans, Packers, Jags, Dolphins, Bears). A lot is expected next year so expect some fans to be overly excited. But for the Cowboys and their fans, no one really knows what to expect.

djohn2oo8
02-08-2009, 07:23 PM
The 9-7 record in Dallas was a by-product of injuries, inconsistency, and a few bad breaks along the way (Injuries to Romo and Felix Jones expecially). It was considered a BAD season. You'd think they went 2-14 the way people talk in Dallas.

A 9-7 record in Houston would be celebrated. This houston team has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in their seven years. Their biggest accomplishment is beating what was at the time a dreadful Cowboys team in 2002.

Dallas blew two games against the teams in the 2009 Super Bowl. The Cardinals (at Home) has to convert a third and 17 to stay in the game. The Steelers (at Home) had a field goal hit the upright and go through to get back in the game in the fourth quarter.

I acknowledge that Dallas was underwhelming this year, but I would not be surprised if they won a bunch of games next year. Houston needs to win more games than it loses before it is taken seriously.


Dallas has not won a playoff game since the Texans first entered the league

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Cowboys suck

Whiz >>>>>>>>>>> Phillips
Warner > Romo
Fitz > T.O.
Boldin > Roy Williams
Cardinals O-Line > Cowboy's O-Line
Cardinal's D = Dallas D

Cardinals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cowfuckers.

peewee's lovechild
02-09-2009, 11:30 AM
Cowboys suck

Whiz >>>>>>>>>>> Phillips
Warner > Romo
Fitz > T.O.
Boldin > Roy Williams
Cardinals O-Line > Cowboy's O-Line
Cardinal's D = Dallas D

Cardinals >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cowfuckers.

All that and they still lost the Super Bowl.

So, they ended up with the same thing the Cowboys ended up with . . . no championship.

BUMP
02-09-2009, 11:53 AM
Raiders have more wins than both these teams in the playoffs combined this decade.

oh good god man, ever since 2002, you guys have the fewest wins in football. i wonder who's going to be the first to win their next playoff game? Dallas or Oakland. hmmmmmm

djohn2oo8
02-09-2009, 12:53 PM
oh good god man, ever since 2002, you guys have the fewest wins in football. i wonder who's going to be the first to win their next playoff game? Dallas or Oakland. hmmmmmm

The Texans will before Dallas, that's for damn sure.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/mophis/726ac5bddba478577edf8f13a85e23cf-getty-78766806cp089_new_york_gian1.jpg

Harry Callahan
02-09-2009, 01:41 PM
Houston needs to actually get in the playoffs ONCE to be taken seriously. Something always messes them up (Blowing the first #1 pick in their history, injuries, bad coaching changes).

I'm not saying Dallas has been that great lately, but they have a better chance in the NFC than the Texans do in the AFC.

I see as many Cowboys fans as Houston fans IN HOUSTON.

BUMP
02-09-2009, 01:54 PM
The Texans will before Dallas, that's for damn sure.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/mophis/726ac5bddba478577edf8f13a85e23cf-getty-78766806cp089_new_york_gian1.jpg

no, that was a FAIL

when healthy we were 13-3 with the number 1 seed in the conference, yall have yet to make the playoffs.

Try again

ATRAIN
02-09-2009, 01:57 PM
Houston needs to actually get in the playoffs ONCE to be taken seriously. Something always messes them up (Blowing the first #1 pick in their history, injuries, bad coaching changes).

I'm not saying Dallas has been that great lately, but they have a better chance in the NFC than the Texans do in the AFC.

I see as many Cowboys fans as Houston fans IN HOUSTON.

The only 2 number 1 picks were Carr and Mario. Carr was good but that poor bastard took a beating and was never the same. Mario is a pro bowler starter. Something Reggie and VY have yet to do. VY got in as an alternate and that isnt a starter.

djohn2oo8
02-09-2009, 02:54 PM
Houston needs to actually get in the playoffs ONCE to be taken seriously. Something always messes them up (Blowing the first #1 pick in their history, injuries, bad coaching changes).

I'm not saying Dallas has been that great lately, but they have a better chance in the NFC than the Texans do in the AFC.

I see as many Cowboys fans as Houston fans IN HOUSTON.


For cowboys to win a playoff game, and possibly to go the super bowl, T.O. :baby has to be released.

mardigan
02-09-2009, 03:45 PM
Cowboys are pretty much better everywhere on the field except wr (maybe), and maybe d-line, but even that could be arguable, and special teams. Texans might have a couple starters here and there that are better than Cowboys starters at the same positions, but the overall depth isn't even close. I like the Texans team, and think they do have quite a bright future, but it really isn't even close. And as for Schaub, considering what the texans gave up to get him, I would say that he has been an utter disappointment. The Cowboys at least seemingly have their qb situation tied up for awhile, but it still seems like the Texans are unsure of theirs.

DrJohn, you sir, are a fucking tard.

Harry Callahan
02-09-2009, 05:00 PM
A corner who Dallas did not believe could play (J. Reeves) started in Houston last year. That guy's play cost Dallas the NY playoff game last year (PI penalties keeping drives alive). Weak links like that guy don't win games for you.

Dr. Gonzo
02-09-2009, 05:01 PM
As much as I hate Reeves, he had a pretty decent year for the Texans.

Harry Callahan
02-09-2009, 05:06 PM
Maybe so, Houston isn't exactly on the prime time games to watch in Dallas. Not many Texan games are shown up here.

He was just a guy in Dallas and was paid well to go to Houston. He got his money.

djohn2oo8
02-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Cowboys are pretty much better everywhere on the field except wr (maybe), and maybe d-line, but even that could be arguable, and special teams. Texans might have a couple starters here and there that are better than Cowboys starters at the same positions, but the overall depth isn't even close. I like the Texans team, and think they do have quite a bright future, but it really isn't even close. And as for Schaub, considering what the texans gave up to get him, I would say that he has been an utter disappointment. The Cowboys at least seemingly have their qb situation tied up for awhile, but it still seems like the Texans are unsure of theirs.

DrJohn, you sir, are a fucking tard.

I'll take it good sir that you never played contact football as I have in high school as a WR, (All District, Texas). I know what the hell I am talkin about when you have a disruptive reciever in T.O., a pussy in Tony Romo who is afraid of T.O, and a fucked up head coach who can't seem to control his locker room. As a reciever, let your play do the talking on the field. Romo, grow some balls and don't let T.O. punk you. You think that Dallas is the shit when they finished one win ahead of the Texans??? Good JOB, since you blow so hard

mardigan
02-09-2009, 05:19 PM
I'll take it good sir that you never played contact football as I have in high school as a WR, (All District, Texas). I know what the hell I am talkin about when you have a disruptive reciever in T.O., a pussy in Tony Romo who is afraid of T.O, and a fucked up head coach who can't seem to control his locker room. As a reciever, let your play do the talking on the field. Romo, grow some balls and don't let T.O. punk you. You think that Dallas is the shit when they finished one win ahead of the Texans??? Good JOB, since you blow so hard

Ahhh, no wonder you dont know shit about football. You were a receiver. Nice to know that playing high school football makes you an expert on the subject of professional football. I also like how you changed your argument to focus on T.O. and Romo, as the rest of your argument was exposed on not only homer bias, but lack of facts or any kind of decent argument. Oh, and I also played football and basketball all through high-school, and more than half the people I played with didn't know shit. You fit right into that mold.

BUMP
02-09-2009, 05:19 PM
:cry:cryi wish i knew what it was like to watch my team in the playoffs

mardigan
02-09-2009, 05:21 PM
(All District, Texas)

:lmao

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-09-2009, 05:43 PM
All that and they still lost the Super Bowl.

So, they ended up with the same thing the Cowboys ended up with . . . no championship.

At least they won a playoff game.....that's something Tony Romo will never be able to say. He's the T-Mac of the NFL, I heard Romo and T-Mac chill together in the off season.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-09-2009, 05:44 PM
Nope. I don't root for the other LA teams just cause they are or were here. I'm not a Clipper, Angel, or Bruin fan either.

Good to hear, the amount of Laker fans turned Clipper fans in 2006 were annoying. Whatever happened to "Clipper Nation"? :lol

mardigan
02-09-2009, 05:47 PM
At least they won a playoff game.....that's something Tony Romo will never be able to say. .

:lol
Glad to know you can tell the future.
Go back to your Vick and southerner bashing, it works much better for you than actually talking about football.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-09-2009, 06:21 PM
:lol
Glad to know you can tell the future.
Go back to your Vick and southerner bashing, it works much better for you than actually talking about football.

The Romo thing was a joke....I have no way to tell what he can do in the future.....and anyone that thinks Romo is a good QB shouldn't be criticizing someone else's football knowledge.

mardigan
02-09-2009, 06:51 PM
The Romo thing was a joke....I have no way to tell what he can do in the future.....and anyone that thinks Romo is a good QB shouldn't be criticizing someone else's football knowledge.

Romo is pretty good, but his inconsistency makes him one of the hardest quarterbacks to gauge that I have ever come across. Every time I get to high on him he turns the ball over 5 times, every time I say I'm done with him he throws 300 yards. He makes me want to pull my damn hair out.

djohn2oo8
02-09-2009, 07:14 PM
Mavericks fans would like to know what it is like to win a championship:depressed

Top reasons it sucks to be a Dallas fan:

1) Mavs Choke in finals: http://english.people.com.cn/200606/21/images/dwade.jpg

2) Tony Homo

http://buffalobillsreview.com/articles/uploaded_images/romo-732601.jpg

3) Cowboys 13-3 lose at home to giants in playoffs:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/crying.jpgBitch :lmao

4) Desperate attempt to win with Pacman

http://usss.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/pacman_jones.jpg

5) The curse of Jessica Simpson

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/jessica-simpson-cheers-tony-romo-1.jpg

6) The fact that the cowboys scout the local prisoners to join the team

7) Mark Cuban:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3365/mavsfc7.png

mardigan
02-09-2009, 07:15 PM
All of your hate still wont make Houston sports relevant again.

djohn2oo8
02-09-2009, 07:24 PM
All of your hate still wont make Houston sports relevant again.

Who gives a damn what you think is relevant, spurs are just the cause of the moment. Are the spurs America's team???

peewee's lovechild
02-09-2009, 10:50 PM
At least they won a playoff game.....that's something Tony Romo will never be able to say. He's the T-Mac of the NFL, I heard Romo and T-Mac chill together in the off season.

Your team has never won a Super Bowl.

It took them the better part of 70 years to even make it.

Using that pattern, you'll be dead before they make it again.

Meanwhile, my team has 5 SB wins and has appeared in the most SBs in NFL history.

But, yea, you don't sound like an idiot at all.

Dr. Gonzo
02-10-2009, 12:02 PM
Your team has never won a Super Bowl.

It took them the better part of 70 years to even make it.

Using that pattern, you'll be dead before they make it again.

Meanwhile, my team has 5 SB wins and has appeared in the most SBs in NFL history.

But, yea, you don't sound like an idiot at all.

The Texans have been around for 7 years. You can't count the Oilers in this. That is a different franchise with different ownership.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-10-2009, 12:23 PM
Romo is pretty good, but his inconsistency makes him one of the hardest quarterbacks to gauge that I have ever come across. Every time I get to high on him he turns the ball over 5 times, every time I say I'm done with him he throws 300 yards. He makes me want to pull my damn hair out.

That's a good assessment, however inconsistent = bad in my book. Matter of opinions.

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-10-2009, 12:27 PM
Your team has never won a Super Bowl.

It took them the better part of 70 years to even make it.

Using that pattern, you'll be dead before they make it again.

Meanwhile, my team has 5 SB wins and has appeared in the most SBs in NFL history.

But, yea, you don't sound like an idiot at all.

My team has more playoff wins than Dallas in the last decade.....in fact I have as many playoff wins as Dallas in the last decade. I could care less about what happened way back in the day before I was 10 years old.

ATRAIN
02-10-2009, 12:36 PM
The Texans have been around for 7 years. You can't count the Oilers in this. That is a different franchise with different ownership.

I think pee wee is making fun of the Cardinals on that one.

Dr. Gonzo
02-10-2009, 12:44 PM
My reading comprehension is going to shit. It's UTSAesque.

ATRAIN
02-10-2009, 01:03 PM
My reading comprehension is going to shit. It's UTSAesque.

LMAO damn your fucked!!

ATRAIN
02-10-2009, 01:13 PM
I think Houston and Dallas both need a QB. Dallas has a better secondary but both teams need safety help and newman has gone down 2 years in a row so depth is an issue. I would gladly keep the Texans WR over Dallas. I think this coming season we will see TO the cancer come up.

samikeyp
02-10-2009, 03:12 PM
I think Houston and Dallas both need a QB. Dallas has a better secondary but both teams need safety help and newman has gone down 2 years in a row so depth is an issue. I would gladly keep the Texans WR over Dallas. I think this coming season we will see TO the cancer come up.

You might but it won't be in Dallas.

T.O will be somewhere else by September.

ATRAIN
02-10-2009, 03:36 PM
You might but it won't be in Dallas.

T.O will be somewhere else by September.

You think they are going to trade him? Or cut him?

samikeyp
02-10-2009, 03:52 PM
You think they are going to trade him? Or cut him?

Cut him, only because they can't trade him to Canada.

ATRAIN
02-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Cut him, only because they can't trade him to Canada.

LOL wont they get a big cap hit if they cut him?

samikeyp
02-10-2009, 04:20 PM
LOL wont they get a big cap hit if they cut him?

Probably but I can still see it happening.

mardigan
02-10-2009, 04:30 PM
You think they are going to trade him? Or cut him?

Nope, if they cut him anyone it will be Roy and Ellis. Owens would have to be traded, although I don't know what team would want to take a chance on him. Cutting Owens would make it really hard to re-sign Ware. Boys would lose close to 10 million or something around there to get rid of him. Besides, he still had 1000 yards and 10 td's, and the other Roy didn't show very much in the way of getting open. Owens isn't responsible for the downfall of this team last year, it was the coaching staff.

peewee's lovechild
02-10-2009, 04:39 PM
My team has more playoff wins than Dallas in the last decade.....in fact I have as many playoff wins as Dallas in the last decade. I could care less about what happened way back in the day before I was 10 years old.

When your piece of shit team wins 5 Super Bowls, you can argue all you want. Get back to me when that happens.

peewee's lovechild
02-10-2009, 04:41 PM
You might but it won't be in Dallas.

T.O will be somewhere else by September.

From your lips to god's ears . . .

samikeyp
02-10-2009, 04:47 PM
From your lips to god's ears . . .

Or at least Landry's...oh wait. same guy.

:)

peewee's lovechild
02-10-2009, 04:52 PM
Or at least Landry's...oh wait. same guy.

:)

Hahaha.

Landry's probably telling god to start Armageddon at Jerruh's house.

samikeyp
02-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Hahaha.

Landry's probably telling god to start Armageddon at Jerruh's house.

I wish. The problem is that Landry was too nice of a guy to do that.