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2centsworth
02-04-2009, 02:07 PM
Headline from Yahoo! So catastrophe is eminent without the so called "stimulus"

• Obama: 'Catastrophe' coming if stimulus isn't passed quickly (http://www.yahoo.com/s/1025696)


However, the stimulus is going to take time to work?

Stimulus plan will take time, Obama warns (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Technology/Plan+will+take+time+Obama+warns/1185720/story.html)



This guy doesn't have a clue does he?

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:10 PM
I overheard it on TV this morning, and I thought Obama dispensed some tired bullshit about Congressional obstruction and time being of the essence.

Transcript?

ChumpDumper
02-04-2009, 02:16 PM
The two could certainly be independently true.

I love how board Republicans have given up actually thinking about anything. It's all brain stem reactions now.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:19 PM
The two could certainly be independently true.True, but this is faith-based, too. We can't know to a certainty whether time is of the essence to the extent claimed.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:20 PM
Congressional obstruction is obligatory by now. The GOP will have to be talked down from it.

ChumpDumper
02-04-2009, 02:24 PM
True, but this is faith-based, too. We can't know to a certainty whether time is of the essence to the extent claimed.Of course -- I'm just saying the two statements are in no way contradictory.

He should have just said there will be a terraist attack if it wasn't passed. Republicans would go for that.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:34 PM
He should have just said there will be a terraist attack if it wasn't passed. Republicans would go for that.Why hasn't Obama announced a politically convenient threat yet? It would probably work.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:38 PM
Instead, we get Obama's lame gambit of impugning the GOP for doing the only thing that's within their power to do, short of assimilation.

doobs
02-04-2009, 02:41 PM
Why hasn't Obama announced a politically convenient threat yet? It would probably work.

The word "catastrophe" comes to mind. See OP.

2centsworth
02-04-2009, 02:42 PM
It's Obama trying to play both sides of the fence. He wants to say the stimulus could take years to work so he's not accountable. Then he says disaster is eminent. Of course I expect the sheep to go to their perceived trump card in Iraq. Hilarious.

I'm just venting and couldn't careless if I get a response.

FreeMason
02-04-2009, 02:45 PM
Headline from Yahoo! So catastrophe is eminent without the so called "stimulus"

• Obama: 'Catastrophe' coming if stimulus isn't passed quickly (http://www.yahoo.com/s/1025696)


However, the stimulus is going to take time to work?

Stimulus plan will take time, Obama warns (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Technology/Plan+will+take+time+Obama+warns/1185720/story.html)



This guy doesn't have a clue does he?

Doesn't have a clue? Are you kidding me? C'mon, you know what's going on.

He has a perfect clue. He is a grade A politician who understands the Average American is the one without a clue. He and others on both sides will say whatever it takes to get their porkulus bills and terrorist policies through.

Just like how Obama said he screwed up in letting Dachlebag be a candidate after already hiring "My kid's camp trip is a business expense" Geithner.

Obama is not the "different" politician a lot of the sheep wanted him to be, and has already proven it in his first 2 weeks :rollin

FreeMason
02-04-2009, 02:46 PM
The two could certainly be independently true.

I love how board Republicans have given up actually thinking about anything. It's all brain stem reactions now.

Says the one of many exposed left-wing nuthuggers who is the mirror image of neocon right wing nuthuggers on Spurstalk.com

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:46 PM
The word "catastrophe" comes to mind. See OP.It's not a specific threat. Terra is, or can be.

The catastrophism is getting to be a broken record, but so far it seems to be an effective sell. It's a good way to stampede a nervous herd into bad decisions.

doobs
02-04-2009, 02:48 PM
It's not a specific threat. Terra is, or can be.

The catastrophism is getting to be a broken record, but so far it seems to be an effective sell. It's a good way to stampede a nervous herd into bad decisions.

I think it's a politically convenient threat. Don't you?

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:49 PM
Says the one of many exposed left-wing nuthuggers who is the mirror image of neocon right wing nuthuggers on Spurstalk.comThat's nasty FM.:wow

SnakeBoy
02-04-2009, 02:56 PM
It's Obama trying to play both sides of the fence.

It's Obama's M.O.

Going down the middle of the road can be a very effective way bypassing traffic, as long as you don't get run over.

ChumpDumper
02-04-2009, 02:57 PM
Says the one of many exposed left-wing nuthuggers who is the mirror image of neocon right wing nuthuggers on Spurstalk.com:lol You still don't know what any of that means.

You probably don't even know what freemasonry is.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 02:59 PM
I think it's a politically convenient threat. Don't you?Oh sure, why not. It's puny political crap. Didn't I say that to begin with?

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 03:03 PM
Oh sure, why not. It's puny political crap. Didn't I say that to begin with?OTOH, it's just possible Obama is right. That's the unfalsifiable.

doobs
02-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Oh sure, why not. It's puny political crap. Didn't I say that to begin with?

I was responding to this:


Why hasn't Obama announced a politically convenient threat yet? It would probably work.

I offered the talk of "catastrophe" as an example of Obama having "announced a politically convenient threat." It's fear mongering.

MannyIsGod
02-04-2009, 03:10 PM
Headline from Yahoo! So catastrophe is eminent without the so called "stimulus"

• Obama: 'Catastrophe' coming if stimulus isn't passed quickly (http://www.yahoo.com/s/1025696)


However, the stimulus is going to take time to work?

Stimulus plan will take time, Obama warns (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Technology/Plan+will+take+time+Obama+warns/1185720/story.html)



This guy doesn't have a clue does he?

Did you read what your posting? Because he's speaking of 2 different things. I'm not even commenting on whether he's right or wrong, but the context and the subjects of the 2 statements are entirely different.

In your first example, he's talking about there being a catastrophe if we don't pass stimulus quickly. In the second he's talking about the recovery once the stimulus plan is in effect. So sure, maybe Obama has no clue, but this is pretty much AHF level posting for you 2cents.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 03:11 PM
I offered the talk of "catastrophe" as an example of Obama having "announced a politically convenient threat." It's fear mongering.So it is. Obama certainly doesn't take the liberty as far as his predecessor did. Yet.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 03:22 PM
But what if Obama is right?


The world is looking to us for guidance. Are we giving them bold and decisive action?


The timing could be important on this. Maybe we do need to just sh!t or get off the pot. (http://www.bridgemanartondemand.com/art/178755/The_Levee_of_King_Louis_XV)



Levee
8.30 am: 'It is time, Sire', declares the First Valet de Chambre, waking the king. The levee, or ceremonial rising, thus begins. Doctors, family and a few favoured friends successively enter the King's Bedchamber where he is washed, combed, and every other day shaven. The Officers of the Chamber and the Wardrobe then enter in turn for full levee, during which the king is dressed and has a breakfast of broth. The most important officials of the kingdom are admitted; it is estimated that the usual number of people attending numbered one hundred, all male.

http://www.chateauversailles.fr/en/311_A_Day_with_the_Sun_King.php


petit lever: http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/1214179

jack sommerset
02-04-2009, 05:27 PM
I heard a interview with the second coming of Christ today. They asked Obama if he has stopped smoking. Simple yes or no question. But Mr Change couldn't say yes or no. He says not here on this white house property. Something like that. Then moved on. I could careless if you smoke or not,just stop being a politician for crying out loud. You are the President. I know minor. Just an observation.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 05:31 PM
The president can't advertise his coping mechanisms. Matter of national security, you might say. Evildoers might try to tamper with his cigs.

Ignignokt
02-04-2009, 05:37 PM
:lol You still don't know what any of that means.

You probably don't even know what freemasonry is.

FreeRoger!

that's what it means!:bking

angrydude
02-04-2009, 05:48 PM
The democrats are playing with fire and should really watch out.

Americans don't have a lot of patience when it comes to the economy.

When the center of this country realizes that due to the democrat's dumbassery the economy is getting a lot worse a lot faster than it ever did under Bush (despite all his F ups), they're going to get sent packing no matter what moron the GOP decides to run.

Then its the GOP's turn to screw us over again.

Winehole23
02-04-2009, 05:57 PM
The democrats are playing with fire and should really watch out.Cranking up the fear can backfire.

Obama created an expectation that something would happen quickly, that it needed to happen quickly. If it doesn't, then the delay can be taken as failure in the task, and it reinforces the motif of imminent catastrophe. Tick-tock, tick-tock.

If you take the imminence of the debacle seriously at all, on time performance counts more than ever. Obama better get it done by the "Presidents' recess."

Winehole23
02-05-2009, 11:10 AM
Why hasn't Obama announced a politically convenient threat yet? It would probably work.On the terror angle: apparently, someone (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/02/cheneys_attack_warning_then_i.html) beat Obama to the punch.

More. (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gogh2M5Jh3Ug7CxS-EuDCC9I-kqg) NYT (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/us/05cheney.html). UPI via marketwatch. (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/cheney-high-probability-new-attacks/story.aspx?guid=%7B35B1837A-515D-4DDD-A4EA-AF8DAA0C9800%7D&dist=msr_1)