Suns Put Stoudemire On Trade Block

[Duncan2177]

Perhaps signaling a willingness to dismantle their roster, the Phoenix Suns have begun exchanging trade proposals with teams for All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire, league executives told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday.

With dysfunction and dissension reigning within the Suns, rival front-office executives believe general manager Steve Kerr is determined to move Stoudemire and others before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.

While Stoudemire, 26, is the Suns’ most valuable asset, sources say Kerr has told teams that he’s willing to trade anyone on his roster except for point guard Steve Nash.

“Everyone is on the table but Nash,” one executive said.

Phoenix owner Robert Sarver has been more reluctant to part with Stoudemire and still hasn’t yet given his blessing to act on a Stoudemire proposal. Nevertheless, most believe that Sarver will inevitably do so.

While there will likely be some interest in a rejuvenated Shaquille O’Neal, it is Stoudemire, the enigmatic 6-foot-10, 250-pound forward, whom most NBA teams have an interest in acquiring.

If Kerr and assistant GM David Griffin do trade Stoudemire, a four-time All-Star, they want a combination of expiring contracts, a talented young player – preferably a forward – and draft picks. Stoudemire is expected to opt out of his contract for the historic free-agent summer of 2010. He makes $15 million this season and $16.3 million next season. His relationship with Suns management has steadily deteriorated and few expect that either side is interested in a contract extension.

Phoenix made the biggest move of the trade deadline a year ago, trading Shawn Marion for Shaquille O’Neal in a deal that the Suns believed could help them overtake the San Antonio Spurs and Los Angeles Lakers in the Western Conference. Yet, the Suns lost to the Spurs in the first round of the playoffs, which turned into a prelude to an acrimonious exit with coach Mike D’Antoni.

This season, Phoenix has struggled to a 26-21 record, which leaves them tied for the final playoff spot in the Western Conference. The Suns were blown out Wednesday night in Golden State, 124-112.

With O’Neal clogging the middle, Stoudemire has expressed frustration with a diminished offensive role. Stoudemire still flusters his GM and coach because of an unwillingness to commit to anything but scoring. Stoudemire’s scoring and rebounding averages have dropped this season, and he recently told Yahoo! Sports that he was struggling with an offense that features fewer pick-and-rolls for him, fewer touches in the low post.

“It is harder,” Stoudemire said. “When you’re in the flow, everything flows. When you’re not, sometimes it’s hard to get involved.”

After the loss to Golden State, Stoudemire told reporters, “To keep losing these games the way we are, it’s not fun. I’m not used to it. It’s almost against my religion.”

Sources believe the Suns are more apt to shop Stoudemire to the Eastern Conference, where Toronto and New York are natural possibilities. Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo drafted Stoudemire for the Suns, and Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni helped turn him into an All-Star. Still, the acrimonious nature of Colangelo’s and D’Antoni’s departures could lessen Phoenix management’s willingness to deal with them.

Nevertheless, Phoenix promises once more be at the center of the league’s biggest trade talks leading up to the deadline.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtYJHOWimZ4zK8SCQvEyLby8vLYF?slug=aw-stoudemiresuns020509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[EricB]

The run and gun suns are now offically muerte.

[nkdlunch]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

[Quiet Strength]

Man the spurs have destroyed the suns.. I feel bad for them.. nah not really lol. I know amare's defense is pretty bad but I dont think he is the player they should be trading. They shouldn't be building the team around nash.. its not like he is a young player that will only get better. He's the opposite.

[Andy25]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

I would rather us keep smart players committed to the system than a guy that just wants to two handed 'gorilla' jam it in with no interest in playing defense.

[Duncan2177]

I would rather us keep smart players committed to the system than a guy that just wants to two handed 'gorilla' jam it in with no interest in playing defense.

Are you kidding? Stoudemire is a stud. Duncan+Amare=The Twin Towers Pt 2.

[hater]

I see Amare going to Detroit for Sheed

[EricB]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

Thats great where do you get the other 5 players now to fill out the roster between now and march, and let them all jell together so they are ready for the playoffs?

[nkdlunch]

Thats great where do you get the other 5 players now to fill out the roster between now and march, and let them all jell together so they are ready for the playoffs?

pickup some backups. Gel for what? we only go 9 or less deep in playoffs anyway

[Duncan2177]

I see Amare going to Detroit for Sheed

Or maybe to the bulls for Dang and Gordon?

[EricB]

pickup some backups. Gel for what? we only go 9 or less deep in playoffs anyway


You don't quite understand the whole "team" concept do ya.

[EricB]

Or maybe to the bulls for Dang and Gordon?

Good trade for the Suns if they can do it.

Then they can see if they could pawn off Jason Richardson on some other poor sap.

[urunobili]

Nash will leave PHX in 2010 book it...

[nkdlunch]

You don't quite understand the whole "team" concept do ya.

Duncan
Amare
Bowen
Mason
Parker

Hill
Ginobili
Thomas
Hairston


that's a damn good playoff team. Anyway just an idea, don't get your panties in a bunch :)

[coachmac87]

Or maybe to the bulls for Dang and Gordon?



Would work with both teams.

Pick and roll with Rose/Amare would be nice.

[ManuTP9]

Duncan
Amare
Bowen
Mason
Parker

Hill
Ginobili
Thomas
Hairston


that's a damn good playoff team. Anyway just an idea, don't get your panties in a bunch :)


that would be nice

[tav1]

If the Suns are blowing it up, they might buy out Grant Hill or he might ask for a trade. On an expiring contract, he's not a bad option, especially considering how badly Ime Udoka has played this season. And he would give the Spurs a third ball handler with a little more size in certain line ups.

[EricB]

Duncan
Amare
Bowen
Mason
Parker

Hill
Ginobili
Thomas
Hairston


that's a damn good playoff team. Anyway just an idea, don't get your panties in a bunch :)


God forbid you get an injury...

[nkdlunch]

God forbid you get an injury...

that goes for ANY team contending for a championship

[MarHill]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

Yeah right...give up half your team for one player. That's a sure way to kill your franchise!!

You sound like Mike Ditka when he gave up most of his draft for Ricky Williams for the Saints.

Yikes!!!

[Texas_Ranger]

Manu or Tony + Udoka & Vaughn for Amare and Barnes.

[Lebowski Brickowski]

The lakers will get him for Odom and a 2nd rounder.

[Crookshanks]

I don't understand anyone wanting Amare on the Spurs. Do you guys not get the whole TEAM concept of the Spurs? And you should know by now that if a guy doesn't play defense - he doesn't play for Pop!

Amare is skilled - but he's immature and his basketball IQ puts him riding on the short bus. He would never be a good fit with the Spurs - and I'd never want to see him in the Silver and Black.

[rayray2k8]

Good god, what is Kerr doing??
He'll probably trade Stoudemire for an old player. :rolleyes

[Duncan2177]

I don't understand anyone wanting Amare on the Spurs. Do you guys not get the whole TEAM concept of the Spurs? And you should know by now that if a guy doesn't play defense - he doesn't play for Pop!

Amare is skilled - but he's immature and his basketball IQ puts him riding on the short bus. He would never be a good fit with the Spurs - and I'd never want to see him in the Silver and Black.

Tell that to Pop.

[hater]

I don't understand anyone wanting Amare on the Spurs. Do you guys not get the whole TEAM concept of the Spurs? And you should know by now that if a guy doesn't play defense - he doesn't play for Pop!

Amare is skilled - but he's immature and his basketball IQ puts him riding on the short bus. He would never be a good fit with the Spurs - and I'd never want to see him in the Silver and Black.

So you would rather keep playing Bonner??

[EricB]

So you would rather keep playing Bonner??

I would.

Why?

Cause the Suns aren't gonna trade him to SA.

[manufor3]

Would work with both teams.

Pick and roll with Rose/Amare would be nice.

it would be scary

[200 miles]

Forget Shaq
Forget Amare

Who do we have to trade to get Robin Lopez and/or Grant Hill?

[Xylus]

Grant Hill makes like $2 mil. No possible way he gets traded.

I hope Amare Stoudemire gets traded to the East, so he gets fucked out of playing in the All-Star Game. Which, by the way, is in Phoenix.

[Duncan2177]

Grant Hill makes like $2 mil. No possible way he gets traded.

I hope Amare Stoudemire gets traded to the East, so he gets fucked out of playing in the All-Star Game. Which, by the way, is in Phoenix.

I think he will be traded after the allstar break.

[200 miles]

would udoka & KT for Lopez work?

[Xylus]

I think he will be traded after the allstar break.

Yeah, the trade deadline's a few days after the All-Star Break, so you're probably right.

The Suns are reportedly NOT looking to trade Amare for an established star, such as Chris Bosh. The organization is looking for the following three things:

1. HIGH draft pick
2. Expiring contract
3. Young prospect

Not a lot of teams have all three of these things.

[Xylus]

would udoka & KT for Lopez work?

Trust me when I tell you this: You don't want Robin Lopez. Dude's awful.

[JPB]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

genius !

[xellos88330]

I do not think the Spurs will go for Amare, unless by some miracle he decides that he needs to learn how to play defense and will listen to Pop.

[Manufan909]

I don't see the possibility of getting Amare, but in an alternate universe where Isaih was in charge I'd like it if Pop traded Vaughn, Ime, and cash for him. Anything more would be a waste, because it is possible that even the CIA Pop couldn't brainwash STAT into playing D.

[slayermin]

If they think the Spurs own them now, wait until they get rid of Amare.

[200 miles]

Trust me when I tell you this: You don't want Robin Lopez. Dude's awful.

Are you for real or just saying that for discouragement based on the potential of him becoming the future starting center of the Suns?

If the former, maybe he would enjoy a fresh start and thrive under Pop's system.

[EricB]

I do not think the Spurs will go for Amare, unless by some miracle he decides that he needs to learn how to play defense and will listen to Pop.


I will say this. I think Amare is coachable.

Stoudamire to SA is a pipe dream at best.

[EricB]

Trust me when I tell you this: You don't want Robin Lopez. Dude's awful.


Agree 1000%.

Brook on the other hand has got ALOT of potential and I think is gonna be damn good.

[SenorSpur]

For everyone that keeps campaigning for the Spurs to somehow jump into the trade fray for Amare, why would you want this guy? Sure he's talented, but he's a malcontent, doesn't rebound, block shots or play defense. Besides the Spurs not having any tradeable assets (which would literally kill any possible deal), why would you want this head case on your team?

[Solid D]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ordine/blog/Sawgrass17b.jpg

It's all falling apart in PHX. Just when they managed to get the ball onto the green on #17, it rolls off the back and into the water.

[Sigz]

"And one"

[EricB]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ordine/blog/Sawgrass17b.jpg

It's all falling apart in PHX. Just when they managed to get the ball onto the green on #17, it rolls off the back and into the water.

The question is, will they hit the drop ball close to the hole, or start pulling a Roy McAvoy.

[024]

now is blazers' chance. lafrentz's expiring contract + aldridge for stoudemire. stoudemire doesn't rebound, block shots, or play defense but oden can. blazers have enough defensive bigmen to cover stoudemire. this will speed up the blazers' development because they will have 2 all stars on their team after this trade. just will need to develop one more.

[EricB]

Doubtfull the Suns trade him within the conference...

[YoMamaIsCallin]

yagottabekiddin. Have you SEEN LaMarcus play? Dude is a stud and turning into a real NBA player. Amare would poison the Blazers.

[big daddy russ]

Nash will leave PHX in 2010 book it...

...for the Lazy Acres old folks' home.

Are we (as Spurs fans) delusional enough to think that we have ANY real trade ammo outside of the big 3 and the three expiring contracts (Finley, Vaughn, Udoka). Nobody's going to give up an All-Star-caliber player for a bunch of role players. Hell, our three expiring contracts only add up to about $4.8 million, so we don't really have a lot of leverage there, either.

Amare's a one-trick pony anyways. He's Antonio McDyess and Shawn Kemp all over again. All three are/were absolute freaks who are/were in a class of their own and dominate(d) the game based on that fact alone. They dunk and they jump. And not much else.

One Amare hits his physical peak (Kemp) or gets injured (McDyess), that fall is going to come hard and fast. At least Kemp understood the concepts of timing on help defense and rebounding. Amare doesn't even get that.

I'd love to have him, but not at the kind of price he will command.



now is blazers' chance. lafrentz's expiring contract + aldridge for stoudemire. stoudemire doesn't rebound, block shots, or play defense but oden can. blazers have enough defensive bigmen to cover stoudemire. this will speed up the blazers' development because they will have 2 all stars on their team after this trade. just will need to develop one more.

If the Suns could pull it off, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. Aldridge will be a monster for another decade and isn't LaFrentz's contract something like $13 million?

Whatever it is, I know it's huge. Suns would come out waaaay ahead.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

would udoka & KT for Lopez work?

LOL, do you watch basketball?

I wouldn't trade a bag of potato chips for Lopez.

[Xylus]

Let's get something straight:

Amare is not a locker room cancer. He's simply lazy on defense and somewhat egotistical. Amare needs a coach that'll earn his respect and whip his ass into shape. D'Antoni never held Amare accountable for his uninspired defense, and Porter is a fucking pushover.

Wherever Amare goes, he'll probably dominate.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Yeah, the trade deadline's a few days after the All-Star Break, so you're probably right.

The Suns are reportedly NOT looking to trade Amare for an established star, such as Chris Bosh. The organization is looking for the following three things:

1. HIGH draft pick
2. Expiring contract
3. Young prospect

Not a lot of teams have all three of these things.

And even less teams have those things AND would want Amaretard.

Maybe Paxson would make one last lame attempt to save his job and go all in for Amare. That would be nice.

[Xylus]

I think you undervalue Amare, DOK. You and I both know Amare isn't the centerpiece of a championship core like the organization has been selling the last few years, but Amare would instantly improve any team with subpar offense. I know you hate the guy, but let's not get carried away... Amare is a great player, when he wants to be.

[dougp]

Something I hope doesn't happen:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=532~2166~1727&teams=21~10~10&te=&cash=

[StoneBuddha]

I think you undervalue Amare, DOK. You and I both know Amare isn't the centerpiece of a championship core like the organization has been selling the last few years, but Amare would instantly improve any team with subpar offense. I know you hate the guy, but let's not get carried away... Amare is a great player, when he wants to be.

Agreed. I also think Amare's defensive weaknesses are even more glaring on the Suns. On a more defensive oriented team, his mistakes would be a lot less noticeable.

[024]

yagottabekiddin. Have you SEEN LaMarcus play? Dude is a stud and turning into a real NBA player. Amare would poison the Blazers.

i don't buy the whole amare is poison thing yet. as a spurs fan, it's easy to hate on the guy that has been dominating (scoring wise) against the spurs for years. sometimes people undervalue him. stoudemire is a 4 time all-star already and is probably more offensively powered than aldridge will ever be. aldridge does have the defense though.

[sonic21]

what about amare for diaw? :stirpot:

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Amare isn't locker room poison, people are confusing that with Marion.

Amare is just a knucklehead and very, very slow. He said he wants to be like Tim a couple years back, so he can't be all bad--it was hard to take him seriously because I don't think he understands the fundamentals that makes Tim great, but it was at least respectful, nonetheless.

[tmtcsc]

Holy Crap ! Could you imagine him landing in Cleveland with Lebron ?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think you undervalue Amare, DOK. You and I both know Amare isn't the centerpiece of a championship core like the organization has been selling the last few years, but Amare would instantly improve any team with subpar offense. I know you hate the guy, but let's not get carried away... Amare is a great player, when he wants to be.


That's just a matter of opinions. I think Amare is a locker room cancer, and I think his offense is wildly overrated.

Now I'm not saying his offense is bad, I'm saying it's overrated. When he plays within his game and doesn't try to create his own shot, he's great on offense. Problem is, he thinks he is THA MAN!!!, and therefore does incredibly retarded stuff on offense. His offense is strictly spot up jumpers and catching the ball in space while he is cutting towards the hoop. He is absolutely worthless in traffic or with the responsibility of creating his own shot.

The reason I call him a locker room cancer is because every controversy and issue involving the team is always centered around him. That's not just some wacky coincidence.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Amare isn't locker room poison, people are confusing that with Marion.

Amare is just a knucklehead and very, very slow. He said he wants to be like Tim a couple years back, so he can't be all bad--it was hard to take him seriously because I don't think he understands the fundamentals that makes Tim great, but it was at least respectful, nonetheless.

He says that crap because the Amare lovers take everything he says extremely serious and believe him when he says he would play defense "if he knew how to".

Since A'a'm'r'etard's breakout season in 2005, he gives an annual speech within a week after Tim Duncan went off largely due to his crappy defense. This speech is always about how much he cares about winning and becoming a better rebounder and defender. Those are just empty promises that should be taken as seriously as Bush's speeches about weapons of mass destruction.

[ploto]

It will end up like the Gasol trade of last season where people claim some team got Amare for chump change.

[samikeyp]

Amare for the rights to Splitter.

Make it happen.

:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It will end up like the Gasol trade of last season where people claim some team got Amare for chump change.

chump change for chump change.....sounds fair to me.

[doldrums]

Mark my words, He will only be traded to an east coast team.

[iggypop123]

amare for bosh? a wash and both players leave their teams. basically its a salary dump deal out there

[wildbill2u]

Amare to NY for David Lee and some role players>

That would take NY out of the great Le Bron auction next year.

[Duncan2177]

chump change for chump change.....sounds fair to me.

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare



:downspin:

[spursncowboys]

Good god, what is Kerr doing??
He'll probably trade Stoudemire for an old player. :rolleyes
Stoudemire refuses to play d. I think that if he had a good coach his early years, he would be the best post in the game. However thanks to DAntoni he is set in his ways. Sucks too, I remember when he averaged 50 pts a game against the best d in the game (Spurs) in the playoffs. :wow

[Dex]

If Lakers or Celtics end up with this do0d...:smchode:

[Bartleby]

Amare to NY for David Lee and some role players>

That would take NY out of the great Le Bron auction next year.

That would be your Gasol to the Lakers type of trade. Unless D'Antoni has some serious dirt on Kerr or Sarver there is no way in hell that one is happening.

[weebo]

If I were a sun's gm, I would build my team around STAT. I think this guy has been given a bad rap and rightly so. However, I think this guy has the potential to be an all out monster on both ends of the court. The guy just needs some direction--a coach who can bring the best out of him. Nash, on the other hand, is on his last leg. The suns need to move on and let Nash go.

[Duncan2177]

If Lakers or Celtics end up with this do0d...:smchode:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~9~3200&teams=2~21~21&te=&cash=


http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~617~2421&teams=13~21~21&te=&cash=



:(

[sook]

Yao for stoudamire do it morey!!!!

[Obstructed_View]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

I :loled

[Duncan2177]

Damn im gonna get shit for this :lol



http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=242~272~846~1727&teams=21~21~21~24&te=&cash=

[Texas_Ranger]

Damn im gonna get shit for this :lol



http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=242~272~846~1727&teams=21~21~21~24&te=&cash=

Thats better...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~272~2774~874&teams=24~21~21~21&te=&cash=

[temujin]

Lakers sign Kwame Brown, then trade him and the rights for Osopu Stoudamire to the Suns for Amare Stoudamire.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Damn im gonna get shit for this :lol



http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=242~272~846~1727&teams=21~21~21~24&te=&cash=

:madrun

[024]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2983~454~1727&teams=21~21~22&te=&cash=

works for both teams. maybe a first round to even a side out.

[Texas_Ranger]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3041~1765~336~3447~1727~3238~2 450~549~2197~1016~2421~2027~3245&teams=13~13~13~13~13~13~21~21~21~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

well, the Lakers could get it done:rollin

[2Cleva]

With Phoenix wanting a real backup for Nash - LO/Farmar for Amare could get some play.

I'd rather LA just tried to get Grant Hill.

[temujin]

Stoudamire not to NYC, at least untill D'Antoni is there.
For sure.
He has enough players with very low BB IQ already.

[DPG21920]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2983~454~1727&teams=21~21~22&te=&cash=

works for both teams. maybe a first round to even a side out.

What a thief, don't pawn off ideas that are not your own!

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1307

[PDXSpursFan]

To Toronto for Bosh (since he'll opt out) or to the fakers in another Gasol-like trade :D

[spursncowboys]

Amare isn't locker room poison, people are confusing that with Marion.

Amare is just a knucklehead and very, very slow. He said he wants to be like Tim a couple years back, so he can't be all bad--it was hard to take him seriously because I don't think he understands the fundamentals that makes Tim great, but it was at least respectful, nonetheless.

touche:toast

[benefactor]

Not happening. He is not worth the money and the Suns aren't doing anything that might make us successful.

[StoneBuddha]

Not happening. He is not worth the money and the Suns aren't doing anything that might make us successful.

I can just imagine the reaction in Phoenix if Kerr traded Amare to the Spurs. They already don't trust him entirely... they'd lynch him after that.

[NFGIII]

Trust me when I tell you this: You don't want Robin Lopez. Dude's awful.

Though I like his brother! But that's not going to happen. Damn he would be nice!

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727~617~2421&teams=13~21~21&te=&cash=

This one is frightening to think about...although I don't see Steve Kerr trading players to the Lakers or Celtics.

[jag]

It's actually kinda sad to see the Suns go out like this. It was fun having them to slap around while it lasted.

[SequSpur]

I am going on record to say this shit ain't happening. Kerr is foolin.

[Biernutz]

Amare has a max contract. Will Kerr match contracts or is he looking for a salary dump for the 2010 free agent action.

[Jmoney]

I'll throw a possibility out there. We all know Boozer isn't loved and doesn't want to be in Utah for much longer. We know that that the nets have been shopping Vince for awhile so here you go.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~1727~1703~988~306~2778~13 6~1022&teams=17~17~21~21~17~17~26~26&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166%7E1727%7E1703%7E988%7E306 %7E2778%7E136%7E1022&teams=17%7E17%7E21%7E21%7E17%7E17%7E26%7E26&te=&cash=)

Jersey gets it's wish while getting something in return to build with Devin Harris.

Utah gets it's wish by getting rid of Boozer who's leaving town anyhow and at the same time building a huge backcourt with it's tandom sg/pg along with alot more playing time for Millsap.

Phoenix get it's wish by bringing in a PF that can play off Shaq and somebody with good defense and good off the boards. It also can decide at the end of the year to resign or move on+ the added bonus of getting itself close to being under cap. Now I would add that more than likely in a trade like this Phoenix would ask for a 2nd pick probally from Jersey and a 3rd round pick from Utah.

[vander]

Manu, Fabs, and Mahimni for Amare

Manu and Nash should play well together

If phoenix doesn't like thier team as is and wants to go for broke while shaq and nash are still good, this would work out well for them, and obviously for us too

[mojorizen7]

Yao for stoudamire do it morey!!!!

Amare/2nd rd pick

for

Artest/Landry/Barry/future 1st rd pick

:hat

[tp2021]

Manu, Fabs, and Mahimni for Amare

Manu and Nash should play well together

If phoenix doesn't like thier team as is and wants to go for broke while shaq and nash are still good, this would work out well for them, and obviously for us too

Stop trying to get rid of Manu.

[Mal]

Manu, Fabs, and Mahimni for Amare

Manu and Nash should play well together




Amare SUCK. Don`t want him in Spurs, ever

[benefactor]

Manu, Fabs, and Mahimni for Amare

Manu and Nash should play well together

If phoenix doesn't like thier team as is and wants to go for broke while shaq and nash are still good, this would work out well for them, and obviously for us too
We could trade you to the Suns for a bucket of KFC and some mashed potatoes.

[peskypesky]

If I were a sun's gm, I would build my team around STAT. I think this guy has been given a bad rap and rightly so. However, I think this guy has the potential to be an all out monster on both ends of the court. The guy just needs some direction--a coach who can bring the best out of him. Nash, on the other hand, is on his last leg. The suns need to move on and let Nash go.

I'm not a big Stoudamire fan, but I mostly agree with you. It's probably foolish and short-sighted to build around Nash and trade Stoudamire. Nash is 34, with his best years behind him, while Stoudamire is 26 and and All-Star.

But maybe if Phoenix could get someone like Emeka Okafor? He's a good defender and rebounder, and with someone like Nash feeding him, he might average near 20pts a game.

Or how about trading Stoudamire to Milwaukee for Richard Jefferson and Charlie Villanueva?

If they could do a trade like one of those, it might work for Phoenix.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i take amare on if i were the spurs....

teachin him how to play defense is coachable imo...pop knows how to deal with these sort of players....

he will probably be first option on offense with parker, pick n roll all day....

duncan can just go back and concentrate on defense or defend the other teams best big....

do i smell another 10 yr of spurs championship basketball? HELL YEH

i throw in mahinmi + splitters rights......

[gospursgojas]

No way suns trade him to a west contender, so stop with the Spurs scenerios.

[doldrums]

please, Arizona will secede from the US before Stoudemire is traded to the Spurs. Please stop talking nonsense. If he is traded, it will be to an Eastern conf team.

[ducks]

Nash will leave PHX in 2010 book it...

I would trade nash now and shaq

[ducks]

boozer for amare?

[InK]

“Everyone is on the table but Nash,” one executive said.



Guess that means that trading Nash would be the way to improve then. I agree ( with myself)

[InK]

Yeah right...give up half your team for one player. That's a sure way to kill your franchise!!

You sound like Mike Ditka when he gave up most of his draft for Ricky Williams for the Saints.

Yikes!!!

Wdf is wrong with you people? If Spurs could do that, they would do it before you said Mike Ditka, probably sooner. Seriouslly, its rare when you see a really moronic proposition, and i mean really moronic, followed by something that is far, far, far ( like Sequ is far shorter then other homo sapiens) stupider by itself then the really really moronic proposition. You and Eric managed to do that, i applaud you

[Ocotillo]

I don't see the Spurs getting Amare. If Kerr is serious, what we could do is be part a multi-team trade using a scrub as salary filler for something.

My hope would be to pick up someone's draft pick for Ime or something.

[dknights411]

Yeah right...give up half your team for one player. That's a sure way to kill your franchise!!


http://www.derok.net/images/sports/kevin%20garnett%20championship.jpg

Well, it worked for these guys at least.

BTW, is it just me, or is KG a bit possessed here?

[Jmoney]

The difference Was Boston dropped all of its Salary and upon being traded KG reworked his contract and took off something like 7 mil off his salary for them to be able to sign other players.

[Biggems]

I will be sad to see Amare leave PHX....he is a major reason why we dominate them. He is 0-4 against the Spurs in the postseason.

[Agloco]

As far as "fits" go, Shaq would be a better fit than Amare. Perhaps they might consider letting Shaq go for a bit less to appease Amare.

Grant Hill would be a good pickup for us as well.

[Biggems]

As far as "fits" go, Shaq would be a better fit than Amare. Perhaps they might consider letting Shaq go for a bit less to appease Amare a bit.

Grant Hill would be a good pickup for us as well.

If we had Shaq, we would be unstoppable, except at the FT line. I also would rather have Hill than Udoka.

[Yorae]

Manu or Tony + Udoka & Vaughn for Amare and Barnes.

FO

[Yorae]

Manu, Fabs, and Mahimni for Amare

Manu and Nash should play well together

If phoenix doesn't like thier team as is and wants to go for broke while shaq and nash are still good, this would work out well for them, and obviously for us too

GTFOOH

[Yorae]

Hey, since Amare will be traded to the east coast, then he won'be starting for the west team right? Does that mean that..........Bowen would be an all star!!!!!!?????? Yay!

[ducks]

raps should offer bosh for him
amare is better then nothing
and then if amare will not sign an extention trade him in offseason

[TDMVPDPOY]

raps should offer bosh for him
amare is better then nothing
and then if amare will not sign an extention trade him in offseason

the raptors are going nowhere, and i doubt amare would resign to play there when his a FA....so the raptors lose both way.....

[duncan228]

Hey, since Amare will be traded to the east coast, then he won'be starting for the west team right? Does that mean that..........Bowen would be an all star!!!!!!?????? Yay!

Chopper mentioned that.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116158

[Armando]

Marion for Stoudemire

[Spur-Addict]

As far as "fits" go, Shaq would be a better fit than Amare. Perhaps they might consider letting Shaq go for a bit less to appease Amare.

Grant Hill would be a good pickup for us as well.

Grant would be awesome. I don't think the Suns would trade with us unless they flat out tank the season. Even then, we probably couldn't get much.

BTW, who is that in your Sig?

[Yorae]

Chopper mentioned that.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116158

Thanks! My bad.

[vicphoenix13]

If I were a sun's gm, I would build my team around STAT. I think this guy has been given a bad rap and rightly so. However, I think this guy has the potential to be an all out monster on both ends of the court. The guy just needs some direction--a coach who can bring the best out of him. Nash, on the other hand, is on his last leg. The suns need to move on and let Nash go.

The Suns can't trade Nash until they have a good young point guard to replace him.

[vicphoenix13]

Guess that means that trading Nash would be the way to improve then. I agree ( with myself)

What? The reason Nash isn't on the table is because the Suns have no one waiting to takeover at the point guard position. No team would give the Suns a young point guard in a trade for Nash so they might as well wait.

[Agloco]

Grant would be awesome. I don't think the Suns would trade with us unless they flat out tank the season. Even then, we probably couldn't get much.

BTW, who is that in your Sig?

Paloma Fiuza. She's a Brazilian model.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

THe Spurs have single handedly destroyed that franchise and its immediate future. There is ZERO chance we could be a trade partner with them.

[Agloco]

THe Spurs have single handedly destroyed that franchise and its immediate future. There is ZERO chance we could be a trade partner with them.

Yeah I was just commenting on that with a buddy of mine. They'd rather give Amare to someone than deal anything to us. We went demolition derby on them.

[Old School 44]

The first thing I thought of when I saw this topic was Toronto and Bosh.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Miami jumps in this with some sort of blockbuster three-way deal where they get Amare and bring in a third party by trading away Marion for some assets Phoenix might want. Riley always seems to find a way to get a marquee big.

If not, look out for the Lakers. They might offer Mihm, other KEY bench players and future second round pick for Amare. :wow

Phoenix would NEVER trade a key asset to the despised Spurs.
Can you imagine if that happened, Amare would go off for 50+ and pull down 20 boards every time we played the Suns. He might even play some defense.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

LMFAO @ all the Spurs fans that want this moron on their team.

[Armando]

The first thing I thought of when I saw this topic was Toronto and Bosh.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Miami jumps in this with some sort of blockbuster three-way deal where they get Amare and bring in a third party by trading away Marion for some assets Phoenix might want. Riley always seems to find a way to get a marquee big.

If not, look out for the Lakers. They might offer Mihm, other KEY bench players and future second round pick for Amare. :wow

Phoenix would NEVER trade a key asset to the despised Spurs.
Can you imagine if that happened, Amare would go off for 50+ and pull down 20 boards every time we played the Suns. He might even play some defense.


Miami can do that by simply swapping Marion for Amare without involving another team. As for Amare playing with the Spurs (won't happen) that would be a formidable frontcourt.

[completely deck]

but now who are we going to slap around? :depressed

[Old School 44]

I doubt if they would want Marion back. That's trading one headache for another...and they already know what that headache's like.

[Armando]

but now who are we going to slap around? :depressed



Dallas

[Armando]

I doubt if they would want Marion back. That's trading one headache for another...and they already know what that headache's like.



Maybe but I have heard the Suns have offered Amare to the Heat. The only problem for the Heat is Amare trying to be the "Man" on Wade's team.

[completely deck]

Dallas

Oh yeah, them. :lol

[pawe]

Oh yeah, them. :lol

lets win a playoff series against them first. As far as I know, the Spurs always have a hard time playing against Dallas.

[outmap]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1015~846~866~1765~1727~3002~54 9~617&teams=13~13~13~24~24~21~21~21&te=&cash=

Everyone benefits!
Kobe will get the all-star guard he wants.
Phoenix will have a back-up to Nash and gain front court depth, + LA and SA can add their 1st round pick to convince PHO.
SA will have someone to play alongside Tim.

:flag:

RIGODON

[vicphoenix13]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1015~846~866~1765~1727~3002~54 9~617&teams=13~13~13~24~24~21~21~21&te=&cash=

Everyone benefits!
Kobe will get the all-star guard he wants.
Phoenix will have a back-up to Nash and gain front court depth, + LA and SA can add their 1st round pick to convince PHO.
SA will have someone to play alongside Tim.

:flag:

RIGODON

Yeah, the Spurs are going to trade their allstar point guard. No way Duncan, Parker or Ginobili are traded until the Spurs plateau.

[xellos88330]

Well, if there is a BS trade to San Antonio (highly doubtful) where the Spurs get Amare for nothing, I hope he has a chip on his shoulder which makes him commit to defense. If he does that, then I have no problem with him coming to SA

[Rapper]

Spurs give up
-Udoka
- Vaughn
- Finley
- Mahinmi
- Oberto
- Bonner

Suns give up
- Amare

These 6 spurs guys can't compete with Amare

[Blackjack]

If the Spurs were looking for someone like Amare, they'd be better off talking to Presti about aquiring Wilcox.

He too isn't much of a defender, but with Tony and Manu running that high screen and role (especially when Tim's on the bench) you'd be seeing nights where you could swear Amare was on the team. The guy has great hands and knows how to finish and for whatever it's worth, (before getting drafted and left to develop in that cesspool known as the Clippers) was actually able to contribute within a team-concept to winning a championship on the NCAA level with Maryland.

He's not making a lot of money and his pending free-agency would leave the Spurs with the flexibility to go in another direction if they deemed necessary.

It couldn't hurt to see if Presti was interested in getting his hands back on Mahinmi. Who knows, maybe he bites. Throw in an expiring contract or two, (Oberto? Udoka?) some cash and/or a pick, and maybe Presti will hook up his former team.

[stéphane]

And the Suns fans were all on me when I said after the cats trade that the suns wouldn't make the PO. That's even worse guys, your team is done for a couple of years. GL for the lottery.

[Austin_Toros]

All he can do is dunk!!!

[mountainballer]

why all this downplay of Amares talent?
we all know he has flaws, we all know he doesn't play much defense and we all know he is a diva.
but there is still one of the best scorers in the league, who is virtually unstoppable when he is hot and those who don't agree should sometimes check his points per shot ratio. he is not a one trick pony at all. currently he delivers a fantastic 1.51 PPS, last year even better at 1.64. (Tim is at 1.33 PPS)
we are not talking about an overrated medium talent, Amare IS one of the best players in the league, despite all his flaws. but he needs the right role on the right team. (he had it on the old suns team)
think about him on a Nelson offense? what if the Warriors offer a package around Biedrins. I would love to find out what Amare might deliver on a Nelson team.

[stéphane]

but he needs the right role on the right team. (he had it on the old suns team)

You said it.
I won't go all out and say he's a role player but he sure is a one dimensional one. All his flaws and notably on the court (see Defense), doesn't make him a franchise player thus not deserving the max contract he's gonna ask for.

[mountainballer]

You said it.
I won't go all out and say he's a role player but he sure is a one dimensional one. All his flaws and notably on the court (see Defense), doesn't make him a franchise player thus not deserving the max contract he's gonna ask for.

well, he doesn't need to ask for a max contract, he already is on one. and while it is debatable who at all deserves such a max contract, I still would claim that this max money is better invested in Amare, than in at least half of the 20 players, who make even more money than he does.
of course he isn't in the league of Lebron, Kobe, Paul and Tim, but to call him a player, who can just dunk, is nonsense. Amare is one of the premium talents in this league. end of story.

[jermaine]

I know you'll have to be kidding. 1st of all Amare hates the Spurs with a passion. 2nd the Suns know they would have to face the Spurs in the playoffs so why would they want to make us that much better. We already beat they asses and they got talent, so you'll think they would give us the team that always seems to bounce they ass out of the playoffs the only real talent they got!?! RIIIIGHT!!! :bang If you believe that then you are as stupid as Amare Stupamire!

[GSH]

I loved the comment from Kerr this week that the Suns had "sort of mortgaged their future" with some of their trades.

Now people would like to see the Spurs do the same thing? Gotta be Laker trolls in disguise.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57067/20090207/stoudemire_opens_up_on_trade_rumors/

Stoudemire Opens Up On Trade Rumors

Amare Stoudemire spoke as though he already had his bags packed on Friday night, the Arizona Republic is reporting, before saying he wanted to remain a Phoenix Sun forever.

"It's kind of good that a lot of teams want me right now," said Stoudemire. "That's positive. Obviously, probably a little bit of financial decision going on. Probably trying to clear things up from their standpoint. A lot of times, when something like this happens it's more of a business move than anything else."

"I know for sure, wherever I go, we're going to definitely be playoff contenders. I bring a lot to the table."

[wijayas]

Miami can do that by simply swapping Marion for Amare without involving another team. As for Amare playing with the Spurs (won't happen) that would be a formidable frontcourt.

TD will be happy to have Amare gets his points and touches. With this fantasy front court, Spurs > Lakers. :lol

[Agloco]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57067/20090207/stoudemire_opens_up_on_trade_rumors/

Stoudemire Opens Up On Trade Rumors

Amare Stoudemire spoke as though he already had his bags packed on Friday night, the Arizona Republic is reporting, before saying he wanted to remain a Phoenix Sun forever.

"It's kind of good that a lot of teams want me right now," said Stoudemire. "That's positive. Obviously, probably a little bit of financial decision going on. Probably trying to clear things up from their standpoint. A lot of times, when something like this happens it's more of a business move than anything else."

"I know for sure, wherever I go, we're going to definitely be playoff contenders. I bring a lot to the table."

Including a disproportionately large head and much baggage.

[NASHville]

This sucks.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Amare will never play for the Spurs , ever! He already said he wants to be the main guy on the team...

He'll be on the Suns forever, I'm so mad that I'll be watching a team build around Amare from 2010-2013. Sarver is still convinced the son he never had is a franchise player. Only reason he hasn't been traded and will never be traded.

[Tully365]

The Suns missed their chance before last season to get Garnett for Amare, and it has been downhill ever since. The mantra that Suns fans have been repeating about the Spurs for 2 years now actually applies to them: too old.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The Suns missed their chance before last season to get Garnett for Amare, and it has been downhill ever since. The mantra that Suns fans have been repeating about the Spurs for 2 years now actually applies to them: too old.

I have my doubts about how much McHale shot that trade down compared to Kerr, because I know D'antoni had a lot control at the time and would have definitely been in favor of Amare 4 KG.

[m33p0]

Amare can bring defense and veteran leadership to the team he was traded from.

[Fernando TD21]

Amare can bring defense and veteran leadership to the team he was traded from.
:lol

[Chieflion]

Nets may be interested in Amare.