Cavs Vs Lakers Game Thread

[The_Game]

3.30 ET

who you got?

battle of the two teams with the best two records

no Bynum for Lakers and no West for the Cavs.

[IronMexican]

Adam Morrison will drop 50 in his street clothes.

[Pelicans78]

I'm gonna go with the Lakers ending Cleveland's unbeaten home record. If LA wins this game, they will win the championship.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cavs by 5

[IronMexican]

This game means nothing 4 months from now. I sure hope you are right, though.

[Pelicans78]

This game means nothing 4 months from now. I sure hope you are right, though.

I think a win here will give LA the ultimate psychological edge.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Cavs win at home but it doesn't mean much cause LA's huge advantage over Cleveland is their front court which isn't healthy.

[IronMexican]

I think a win here will give LA the ultimate psychological edge.

I really don't think it matters. LA is pretty much as confident as they will ever be, and winning or losing this game is going to have nothing to do with it. Beating Boston without Bynum gave LA the ultimate edge.

[layupdrill]

Cavs in a classic game. I think this afternoon's game could be the best double header in years.

[Allanon]

I'm more hyped up for the Spurs/Celtics game.

Lakers should win this one going away.

[dirk4mvp]

Adam Morrison will drop 50 in his street clothes.


I really liked watching this guy play when he was in college. I don't know how much pt he'll get with the Lakers, but since every Laker game is on national tv, we'll probably see him some.

[Thunder Dan]

3rd row behind the lakers/scorers table, look for your boy yelling at gay sasha vuachic

[djohn14]

They last time the Lakers beat the Cavs, Cleveland didnt have West or Z. Well, Z is back. We are each missing 1 of our starting 5. Cleveland all the way.

[IronMexican]

Wear a Browns jersey so we know who you are.

[Thunder Dan]

Wear a Browns jersey so we know who you are.

I'm in a blue cavs shirt, 25 years old, white and resemble tom cruise and the guy from the brekfast club

[IronMexican]

Got it!

[FreeMason]

Morrison has a guest spot on next week's "Life on Mars" airing Wednesday Nights on ABC.

In preparation for the role he has been in character for the last 4 years.

[Chris]

Go Cavs. We're all witnesses.

[Texas_Ranger]

This should be a good game to watch.

[pauls931]

Cavs in a classic game. I think this afternoon's game could be the best double header in years.

man that's a cold video in your sig... (i'm not a cards fan, but that's cold)

[ducks]

KILL EAch otHER

[Spur-Addict]

Nice Pavlo, nice.

[Banzai]

down 2..not bad yet...

[Ghazi]

All the King's Men

[TheMACHINE]

all we gotta do is hang on till late 4th quarter.

[baseline bum]

Great game so far.

[TheMACHINE]

All the King's Men

the only King without a Crown. Well..King kong too.

[Spur-Addict]

the only King without a Crown. Well..King kong too.

Every King needs a Prince.

[pauls931]

Every King needs a Prince.

gonna party like it 1999

[Banzai]

WallY z going to have a good game.

[BUMP]

I'm gonna go with the Lakers ending Cleveland's unbeaten home record. If LA wins this game, they will win the championship.

doesnt surprise that a fan of a team who's done nothing in the postseason to be so reliant on a regular season game

[Spur-Addict]

Feed Rich Soil, he needs to eat lol.

[DPG21920]

Why do all the Lakers always yell so loud when they score?

[Spur-Addict]

gonna party like it 1999

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/25/prince.jpg

[Reck]

Why do all the Lakers always yell so loud when they score?

Cuz they are whiny little bitches.


Cavs owning the Fakers as of the Half.

[benefactor]

Mo Williams owning the Lakers...

[DrHouse]

Eh Lakers will probably lose this game.

5-1 on the roadie, I'll take that.

[phyzik]

Kobe kicked Mo in the face! he's dirty!

[DrHouse]

For all the talk about CLE's vaunted defense the Lakers still dropped 51 pts in that half.

I don't know if either regular season game thus far will tell us anything about what a Finals matchup would look like as neither team has faced off at full strength.

[DPG21920]

Interesting to see. First match up in LA had Bynum and no Big Z. This time in Cleavland have big Z but no Bynum.

[Spur-Addict]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00562/kick_682x400_562597a.jpg

[DAF86]

all we gotta do is hang on till late 4th quarter.

So that Kobe can Miss 3 of every 4 shots?

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

[IronMexican]

Bad half of LA bsketball. Cleveland just can't miss either. What could you do?

[Banzai]

Eh Lakers will probably lose this game.

5-1 on the roadie, I'll take that.

+1

[TheMACHINE]

So that Kobe can Miss 3 of every 4 shots?

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

says the spurs fan

[Spur-Addict]

says the spurs fan

Says facts.

[TheMACHINE]

So that Kobe can Miss 3 of every 4 shots?

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm


btw...u have that page bookmarked huh...is this like the 5th time you posted this link?

[DAF86]

says the spurs fan

Nope, the cold numbers say so.

[TheMACHINE]

Says facts.

fine with me..we all know what Kobe has done to your team.

[crc21209]

Lakers are fucked, 61 points at the half by the Cavs and only 8 of those were by Lebron.

[DAF86]

btw...u have that page bookmarked huh...is this like the 5th time you posted this link?

No, just the 2nd.

Nobody answered the other time I posted it so I supossed no Laker fan saw it.

[TheMACHINE]

funny how ABC just showed Barrys favorite closers..wonder who is in it. ;)

[DrHouse]

Cavs on fire in that half. Wally and Z were huge, if they hit like that the Cavs are tough to beat.

I hope LAL can put up a fight in the 2nd half and bring this closer, but I don't think they have enough in the tank for a victory. You know Lebron wants this win badly after losing to Kobe in the previous game by 17 pts.

[DrHouse]

And it should come as no surprise that Spur fan is in here talking shit about what another team is doing to the Lakers.......

THAT THEIR TEAM CANNOT DO.

:lmao

[Spur-Addict]

fine with me..we all know what Kobe has done to your team.

Is that supposed to make me cry? :sleep

How many times has he beaten us in the post season w/o Shaq? Once?

Nice. I guess all the other years he just couldn't get out of PHX. That's to bad ya know.

[Spur-Addict]

And it should come as no surprise that Spur fan is in here talking shit about what another team is doing to the Lakers.......

THAT THEIR TEAM CANNOT DO.

:lmao

And it doesn't matter how many accounts you make, you are still the same lame person.

[TheMACHINE]

Is that supposed to make me cry? :sleep

How many times has he beaten us in the post season w/o Shaq? Once?

Nice. I guess all the other years he just couldn't get out of PHX. That's to bad ya know.


haha..lol..yah..looks like you're crying.

[DrHouse]

Is that supposed to make me cry? :sleep

How many times has he beaten us in the post season w/o Shaq? Once?

Nice. I guess all the other years he just couldn't get out of PHX. That's to bad ya know.

4-1 this decade.

The Spurs will not beat a healthy Laker squad, we saw what happened in the last game. The Spurs got blown out so hard Pop didn't even bother playing his Big 3 in the 4th. The only chance they have is if Bynum is down for the count for the season and everyone outside of SA knows it.

It's all about matchups. The Lakers have 3 7ft bigman that the Spurs cannot handle with their frontline. Bonner, Thomas....these guys are too small to guard Bynum or Gasol on the block. Timmy can only take one at a time, and if he has to expend serious energy on both ends he isn't nearly as effective a player. Your own coach said it himself, the margin of error for SAS against the Lakers is incredibly small. One or two screwups defensively and the game is over.

[DAF86]

And it should come as no surprise that Spur fan is in here talking shit about what another team is doing to the Lakers.......

THAT THEIR TEAM CANNOT DO.

:lmao

Roger Mason says hi.

[IronMexican]

LeBron has a big nose. Take that, Cav fans.

[Reck]

And it doesn't matter how many accounts you make, you are still the same lame person.

Funny how this douchebag says how the "Spurs fans" go to another thread when as a mater of fact DrHouse is the first in line to come into a Spurs related topic to talk his bullshit that no one gives a fuck about.

Dr.House should fallow his own advise.

Also i reckon this is a Spurs board so we can get into whatever the fuck topic we want. :)

[DrHouse]

Roger Mason says hi.

Notice how I said "fully healthy".

3 rotation players out != fully healthy

[DrHouse]

Funny how this douchebag says how the "Spurs fans" go to another thread when as a mater of fact DrHouse is the first in line to come into a Spurs related topic to talk his bullshit that no one gives a fuck about.

Dr.House shuld fallow his own advise.

Also i reckon this is a Spurs board so we can get into whatever the fuck topic we want. :)

Spurs can't beat the Lakers when it matters.

Phil has owned Pop decisively to the tune of 4-1.

[TheMACHINE]

Is that supposed to make me cry? :sleep

How many times has he beaten us in the post season w/o Shaq? Once?

Nice. I guess all the other years he just couldn't get out of PHX. That's to bad ya know.

haha since the facts dont fit you're argument, you had to add w/o shaq.

Hey..how many times have you beat us w/o Shaq? Oh yah..none. lol

See what i did there?

[Nocioni]

the cavs are killers in the 3rd @ home

[DeadlyDynasty]

Is that supposed to make me cry? :sleep

How many times has he beaten us in the post season w/o Shaq? Once?

Nice. I guess all the other years he just couldn't get out of PHX. That's to bad ya know.

Considering they've only met once under those circumstances, I'd say he's batting 1.000.

[DrHouse]

haha since the facts dont fit you're argument, you had to add w/o shaq.

Hey..how many times have you beat us w/o Shaq? Oh yah..none. lol

See what i did there?

They do this all the time, especially when they try to bring up the rings argument. They try and pretend the NBA only existed since 1999.

[TheMACHINE]

Is that supposed to make me cry? :sleep

How many times has he beaten us in the post season w/o Shaq? Once?

Nice. I guess all the other years he just couldn't get out of PHX. That's to bad ya know.

Way to OWN yourself. lol

[sook]

They do this all the time, especially when they try to bring up the rings argument. They try and pretend the NBA only existed since 1999.


stop trollling , i hope you realize this is a spurs forum and you look like a retard

[Allanon]

So that Kobe can Miss 3 of every 4 shots?

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

This stat is just like Amare's stats...lots of shots, not much difference.

"Obviously though this definition means a shot may not actually be a game winner -- it may only tie a game (if down two points) or it may allow enough time for the opponents to get a game winning shot of their own. "

http://www.nba.com/2008/tipoff/10/21/gmsurvey.misc/index.html
Which player in the NBA would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?
1. Kobe Bryant -- 88.9%
Others receiving votes: Gilbert Arenas, LeBron James, Paul Pierce

[TheMACHINE]

i truly respect the spurs...but i have to defend my Lakers if they try to belittle them. ;)

[DeadlyDynasty]

the cavs are killers in the 3rd @ home

yup, might get ugly...oh well, if you'd have told me LA was gonna go 5-1 on this road trip I would've taken it. Props to the Cavs though, they are solid and a completely different team at home

[DrHouse]

stop trollling , i hope you realize this is a spurs forum and you look like a retard

Get out of the 1st round and then we'll talk.

[IronMexican]

This shit is real annoying. ?very fucking thread is the same thing.

[Spur-Addict]

haha..lol..yah..looks like you're crying.

Oh yeah i'm crying. The Laker Junkies, the Wagon riders and anything else synonymus with lame are all jumping me. I'm so sad.

Yes the Lakers have one post season victory without Shaq, but at least the Spurs can sustain consistency.

Also, you won't catch the Spurs crying after a loss in the playoff. Like, literal tears. I can understand why the fans are like they are, the players aren't exactly setting the best examples.

[Spur-Addict]

This stat is just like Amare's stats...lots of shots, not much difference.

"Obviously though this definition means a shot may not actually be a game winner -- it may only tie a game (if down two points) or it may allow enough time for the opponents to get a game winning shot of their own. "

http://www.nba.com/2008/tipoff/10/21/gmsurvey.misc/index.html
Which player in the NBA would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?
1. Kobe Bryant -- 88.9%
Others receiving votes: Gilbert Arenas, LeBron James, Paul Pierce

You keep throwing this up like public opinion is fact. Come on now Al.

[DAF86]

Notice how I said "fully healthy".

3 rotation players out != fully healthy

Please show me where, in the phrase I quoted from you, says that?

[Biggems]

I wish the NBA would quit pampering Gasol....He gets away with so much contact. Then he makes that ugly face when they finally do call a foul on him. I want to know when he became an NBA God....

Not even Kobe gets the love from the refs that Gasol gets

[DPG21920]

The Lakers are never out of games, it is really impressive.

[Spur-Addict]

The Spurs will not beat a healthy Laker squad, we saw what happened in the last game.


Yeah, and we saw what happened in the game in SA as well. Big woopty doo, you were missing two players.

[DrHouse]

Gasol gets away with contact now? I thought he was a Euro-soft pussy. Make up your mind Spur fan, you're beginning to sound bi-polar.

Damn the Lakers offense is absolutely phenomenal and clicking on all cylinders right now. It's beautiful to watch.

Can't wait for Bynum to get back to help anchor the D. The Lakers are looking extremely strong right now even without him playing.

[DPG21920]

Again with the gay primal yell. WTF

[Spur-Addict]

Rich Soil

[Texas_Ranger]

This Odom guy is playing great.

[Biggems]

Gasol gets away with contact now? I thought he was a Euro-soft pussy. Make up your mind Spur fan, you're beginning to sound bi-polar.

Damn the Lakers offense is absolutely phenomenal and clicking on all cylinders right now. It's beautiful to watch.

Can't wait for Bynum to get back to help anchor the D. The Lakers are looking extremely strong right now even without him playing.

Way to generalize all Spurs fans. I speak for myself, not the Spurs nation. Gasol gets away with murder. He hacks, goes over the back, pushes on rebounds, etc and gets away with all of it. Then when he is on offense, the refs are constantly bailing him out.

I just dont understand why that soft ass pussy gets so much love from the refs.....especially when he is on the defensive end.

[Biggems]

Wally is having one of those games where he can't miss....then he will go a few weeks where he can't make a shot.

[turiaf for president]

odom playing like a beast since drew went down

[DAF86]

This stat is just like Amare's stats...lots of shots, not much difference.

"Obviously though this definition means a shot may not actually be a game winner -- it may only tie a game (if down two points) or it may allow enough time for the opponents to get a game winning shot of their own. "

http://www.nba.com/2008/tipoff/10/21/gmsurvey.misc/index.html
Which player in the NBA would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?
1. Kobe Bryant -- 88.9%
Others receiving votes: Gilbert Arenas, LeBron James, Paul Pierce

First: I don't know what you're trying to say... Amare? lots of shots?... really, don't get it.

Second: So a poll where probably all of those 88.9 % are Lakers fans is more important than an objective, decently thought, game production based stat?

[Spur-Addict]

http://www.clubvibes.com/images/listings/events/32825.jpg

[Biggems]

Jordan with flu >>> Kobe without flu

[Biggems]

Odom has all that talent and such a great skillset......but he is just so damn inconsistent. Just think how scary the Lakers would be if Odom were consistent.

[Biggems]

Booooooooooooooooooobie

[DrHouse]

God damn the Lakers are incredible. I fucking love this team.

[layupdrill]

Odom is impressive. 26 points and 15 boards picking up the slack.

[DPG21920]

Trade Odom!

[Red Hawk #21]

Odom has really impressed me this game

[DrHouse]

It's clear the offensive chemistry between Kobe, Gasol, and Odom is off the charts. Way better than it is with Bynum in there.

Still, I'd take Bynum's defense first. Especially in the playoffs.

[sook]

Get out of the 1st round and then we'll talk.

I'm pretty sure we have otherwise how would we get these :lobt2:?

Notice how you always make irrelevant remarks? Your a fucking troll now gtfo

[IronMexican]

Great quarter of ball by LA. Odom playing the way he should be all the time.

[Allanon]

First: I don't know what you're trying to say... Amare? lots of shots?... really, don't get it.

Second: So a poll where probably all of those 88.9 % are Lakers fans is more important than an objective, decently thought, game production based stat?

Amare puts up great stats, just like LeBron's 24 second performance. But those stats don't come with wins.

And those are NBA GM's voting, not the public "Laker fans".

"NBA.com posed these questions and more to the league's general managers"

http://www.nba.com/2008/tipoff/10/21/gmsurvey.misc/index.html

Which player in the NBA would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?
1. Kobe Bryant -- 88.9%
Others receiving votes: Gilbert Arenas, LeBron James, Paul Pierce

[DeadlyDynasty]

Jordan with flu >>> Kobe without flu

Kobe with flu>>>any player spurs have ever had

[DeadlyDynasty]

vujacic has been shit this year

[DeadlyDynasty]

that was a foul...shut up cavs fans

[Spur-Addict]

vujacic has been shit this year

As he hits a J.

I'm suprised Mo didn't get a tech there.

[crc21209]

So I left and came back and the Lakers outscored the Cavs 31-16 in the 3rd and Lamar Scrotum has 25 and 16? WTF!!?!?!?

[Biggems]

Kobe with flu>>>any player spurs have ever had

dont be stupid.

Duncan is the best PF of all time. Kobe isnt even the best SG of all-time. Duncan won 4 titles as #1 option. Kobe won 3 as #2 option.

Gervin > Kobe offensively. Let Kobe play in Gervin's era and see if he can hang with that kind of physicality.

[DAF86]

Amare puts up great stats, just like LeBron's 24 second performance. But those stats don't come with wins.

And those are NBA GM's voting, not the public "Laker fans".

"NBA.com posed these questions and more to the league's general managers"

http://www.nba.com/2008/tipoff/10/21/gmsurvey.misc/index.html

Which player in the NBA would you want taking a shot with the game on the line?
1. Kobe Bryant -- 88.9%
Others receiving votes: Gilbert Arenas, LeBron James, Paul Pierce

GM's/public same story: biased opinion that doesn't necesseraly shows what trully happens on the court.

And just to let you know: Lebron 17 mades in 50 attemps. Kobe 14 mades in 56 attemps so I don't know where you get this "Amare's stats bullshit".

[IronMexican]

Streak busters!

[Spur-Addict]

So I left and came back and the Lakers outscored the Cavs 31-16 in the 3rd and Lamar Scrotum has 25 and 16? WTF!!?!?!?

He's trying to promote Rich Soil. Apparently Carmelo is getting alot of good artists these days.

[turiaf for president]

lamar odom is playing like a beast. that shit pisses me off tho. why cant he fuckin play like that everygame. not just they numbers but that aggressive style??!?!

[Deimosfobos]

Odom putting some impresive numbers... I wish we would have a big man not named Duncan close as good as that.

[Biggems]

looks like the Cavs are about to lose their 1st HG.....and Avery will be right. He picked the Spurs and Lakers to win today.

[xtremesteven33]

WTF??

wats happening to the Cavs?

Wheres Lebron? haha

[Banzai]

lamar odom is playing like a beast. that shit pisses me off tho. why cant he fuckin play like that everygame. not just they numbers but that aggressive style??!?!

hope he isn't a no show against OKC.

[DrHouse]

Can we please keep this thread on topic. I think we've had enough of Spurs vs. Lakers, Kobe vs. Lebron, BS to last 10 years.

[Allanon]

GM's/public same story: biased opinion that doesn't necesseraly shows what trully happens on the court.

And just to let you know: Lebron 17 mades in 50 attemps. Kobe 14 mades in 56 attemps so I don't know where you get this "Amare's stats bullshit".

I'll take a GM's opinion over any contrived stat, thankyou.

And just to let you know: Lebron's first buzzer beater in his entire career came a month ago.

Amare has great stats, but he's not an impact player. Stats are deceiving.

Even in your link, it says

"Obviously though this definition means a shot may not actually be a game winner -- it may only tie a game (if down two points) or it may allow enough time for the opponents to get a game winning shot of their own. "

[scanry]

I predict the Clippers will be offering Odumb a dumb contract like 40mil/3 yr.

[DrHouse]

To beat LAL you need to beat them on the defensive end. They are tough to beat in a shoot out.

[Biggems]

ok now it is time for Lebron and the refs to take over

[turiaf for president]

get that shit out!

[IronMexican]

I see Thunder Dan! He is the one in the Cavs jersey.

[Biggems]

Lebron is unclutch at the line. I would rather have Duncan at the line than James, late in a game.....and we all know how bad Duncan is at the line.

[Biggems]

The Cavs are colder than a penguins ass from the field in the 4th

[baseline bum]

Cavs are playing stupid. They look like a bunch of rookies this quarter.

[turiaf for president]

arizzzzzzaaa get the shit out

[IronMexican]

Arriiizzzaaaaaa

[Biggems]

wow, what is wrong with these officials...dont they know that Stern expects them to bail out James everytime he takes a poor shot?

[Allanon]

Phil playing mindgames... "I can beat you with my bench"

[layupdrill]

Lebron only 4-15 from the field...he was 9-25 in the first matchup.

Very impressed the Lakers keeping Odom and Bryant on the bench and keeping the lead.

[baseline bum]

How was that "hop-step" by James not a travel? It was a higher jump than anyone on the Spurs can do. :lol

[DrHouse]

I think the fact that both Kobe and Lamar are on the bench with 6:30 to go shows the difference between these two teams.

The Cavs are still too Lebron centric. Mike Brown does NOT trust his bench the way Phil Jackson trusts his bench.

[turiaf for president]

i love the D on lebron. theres always someone meeting him at the basket.

[layupdrill]

Phil playing mindgames... "I can beat you with my bench"
Yes he is. Sending a message to the rest of the league that they can end the Cavs 23 game winning streak without Kobe dominating. Pretty big statement if it comes true.

[xtremesteven33]

This is what ive been saying all year. As good as the Cavs and Lebron are. Lebron needs help.

He needs another legit ALLSTAR player to help him carry the load. Spurs have 3. Boston has 3. Lakers have 2. (maybe 3)

That is why the Celtics will beat them agian this year.

[turiaf for president]

How was that "hop-step" by James not a travel? It was a higher jump than anyone on the Spurs can do. :lol

yea that was borderline, but i think he hopped on the up dribble (jumpstop)

[DAF86]

And just to let you know: Lebron's first buzzer beater in his entire career came a month ago.

"Obviously though this definition means a shot may not actually be a game winner -- it may only tie a game (if down two points) or it may allow enough time for the opponents to get a game winning shot of their own. "

Who cares if it's a buzz beater or not? MJ "last shot" against Utah wasn't a buzzer beater but still was a game winning shot.

[DrHouse]

Lakers need to keep scoring because they are nearing the foul limit and we all know that Lebron will try his damndest to get to the hoop on every play from here on out.

I do not want to see Kobe come out in the 4th and start putting up BS ISO shots. Feed Gasol, LO, and go with what has worked all game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

this game is far from over

[resistanze]

lol @ the missed layups by LeBron, playing like dogshit.

[turiaf for president]

damnnn ariza got paaaacked lol

[IronMexican]

I really didn't expect LA to lose this one. Even if they do, meh. I really just wanted that win Thursday night.

[turiaf for president]

wow fuckin odom

[resistanze]

LMAO @ Wally. So garbage.

[baseline bum]

Odom looking great tonight.

[IronMexican]

Odom playing the way he always should.

[Biggems]

horrible shot by james

[Biggems]

shut it Fisher...it was a good foul........im sick of these perimeter pussies whining when they get fouled hard for driving inside.....that is the way it should be....

i miss the Bad Boys.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Wow

[baseline bum]

Sick fucking fadeway by Bryant

[turiaf for president]

kobe... sick shot

[layupdrill]

Bryant is the best closer in the game

[Reck]

Good day Cavs

[baseline bum]

LMAO @ the dumbass in the Carter thread who says Vince hits more difficult shots than Kobe.

[Banzai]

nice shot by kobe.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bryant is the best closer in the game

:toast

[timvp]

Travel . . .

[DrHouse]

I'm of the opinion that you really don't make statements in the regular season, but if the Lakers win this game it will do worlds for their confidence from here on out. With or without Bynum in the playoffs.

[xtremesteven33]

Holy Crap what a shot by Kobe

[ducks]

whatever
james got owned

[Biggems]

LMAO @ the dumbass in the Carter thread who says Vince hits more difficult shots than Kobe.

How can Wince Carter hit difficult shots when he is too busy flailing on the ground holding one of his glass ankles?

[layupdrill]

Lakers can wrap this up right here

[DeadlyDynasty]

anderson varejao is the goofiest looking bastard in the NBA

[resistanze]

LOL @ that call.

[Biggems]

that was a bad foul call.....once again the refs bail out Gasol

[Spur-Addict]

That's too bad for Cleve. A little substitution panic in the second half might have done them in.

[timvp]

Laker call.

[IronMexican]

Bucket and its over

[DeadlyDynasty]

Pau!!!!

[dirk4mvp]

What a follow by Gasol.

[baseline bum]

Nice win for LA. Spurs-Lakers is going to be the NBA Finals.

[Biggems]

Lebron the chucker......

[layupdrill]

Streak Killers...

[turiaf for president]

huge road trip for the lakers..

[xtremesteven33]

Damn impressive.

[IronMexican]

Good win today.

[crc21209]

Fuckin' L.A, the thing I dont understand about them, at times look unbeatable and good beating the likes of Boston and Cleveland, and then lose to some mediocre teams like Charlotte or others.

[turiaf for president]

dumbass wally y u fouling there?

[DPG21920]

Mighty impressive win. West now owns East again.

[IronMexican]

I guess its time for the Pro Bowl.

[crc21209]

Same ol' Lebron choker, still cant get it done in a big game situation. Whats he gonna say now? His role players arent good enough? Cant say that now...

[IronMexican]

Odom gives the weirdest interviews.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Lamar's the kinda guy I'd love to smoke a bowl with

[Allanon]

Lamar's the kinda guy I'd love to smoke a bowl with

+1

Easiest going Laker and he showed up big tonight. Props to L07.

[DAF86]

Like I said many times the only teams that can win this thing are the Lakers, Celtics and Spurs in that order.

[IronMexican]

Fitzgerald is ridiculous!

[benefactor]

Odom gives the weirdest interviews.
I know right...he looks like he is about to say something dumb before his mouth even opens.

This game is a testament to Odom though. He has such incredible potential but he just can't keep it together consistently. He really could be one of the best SF's in baskeball.

[Kobe™]

My sig may be changed soon,
but it may have an effect on how we play


I'll keep it!!

Good win

[DeadlyDynasty]

Like I said many times the only teams that can win this thing are the Lakers, Celtics and Spurs in that order.

If they continue to get contributions like that from Mason, Hill, and Bonner, I'd put them ahead of the C's

[DAF86]

Same ol' Lebron choker, still cant get it done in a big game situation. Whats he gonna say now? His role players arent good enough? Cant say that now...

Well, he is not gonna say it but they do suck. They have the same team that last year with the only adittion of Mo Williams. Gasol, Bynum and Odom are all better than him.

[TheMACHINE]

Bryant is the best closer in the game

Que DAF and his link

[iggypop123]

odom destroyed them in the paint and with no bynum. so much for z controlling the pain

[DeadlyDynasty]

My sig may be changed soon,
but it may have an effect on how we play


I'll keep it!!

Good win

Indeed, don't mess with a good thing:lol

[DAF86]

If they continue to get contributions like that from Mason, Hill, and Bonner, I'd put them ahead of the C's

In a head to head I'd give the edge to the Spurs. The thing is we have to beat the Lakers first. And IMO for the Celtics LA is a better matchup than SA.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Well, he is not gonna say it but they do suck. They have the same team that last year with the only adittion of Mo Williams. Gasol, Bynum and Odom are all better than him.

His role players had great games--Mo Williams went above his season avg and you'd be hard-pressed to find better games from Wally and Big Z.

[DAF86]

Que DAF and his link

Me and my link que? I just posted some interesting unobjective numbers you can do whatever you want with them.

[IronMexican]

Cooper preaching what I said. LO should be doing thisevery night.

[DeadlyDynasty]

In a head to head I'd give the edge to the Spurs. The thing is we have to beat the Lakers first. And IMO for the Celtics LA is a better matchup than SA.

w/o Bynum I agree with you. But LA is a whole different animal with his presence and toughness in the middle.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'll tell you one guy I wouldnt want to smoke one with... Phelps!!! Imagine the tokes that fucker takes. He'd ruin the whole puff puff pass tradition... more like puff pass.

no doubt:lmao that guy would go through a stash like shit thru a goose

[DrHouse]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

[DAF86]

His role players had great games--Mo Williams went above his season avg and you'd be hard-pressed to find better games from Wally and Big Z.

I'm not talking about this game in particular. Regulary they suck and are overrated because of James' game which allows the Cavs to have such a great record. Switch Wade and Lebron places and the Heat would be in a better position than the Cavs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

I agree...gotta ease him back in till he's mentally comfortable playing on that knee

[Biggems]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

Fisher, Bryant, Odom, Bynam, Gasol would be a very tough lineup to deal with in the final moments of a game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm not talking about this game in particular. Regulary they suck and are overrated because of James' game which allows the Cavs to have such a great record. Switch Wade and Lebron places and the Heat would be in a better position than the Cavs.

interesting point but I don't completely agree b/c the Heat's lack of size has killed them all year. You're probably not far off w/ that assumption tho

[IronMexican]

ROFL Coop. I wish Cooper wason KCAL so he could be on your more.

[MarHill]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

Good point, DrHouse

I have to post that I was impressed with these two wins by the Lakers. They play with some real grit and toughness and made the little plays to win those games.

I believe making the little plays are the difference in winning a championship or not.

Also, I have to give props to Lamar Odom. 28 pts and 16 rebs...he dominated the 3rd quarter and that changed the momentum of the game to LA.

I'm looking forward to the March 12th game in SA.

:toast

:flag:

[Biggems]

interesting point but I don't completely agree b/c the Heat's lack of size has killed them all year. You're probably not far off w/ that assumption tho

really?

Both came out the same year. Wade led a shitty Heat team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Then he led the Heat to an NBA Championship the next season...and yes they had Shaq....but the fat diesel had nowhere near the impact he had during the Lakers run.

[DAF86]

really?

Both came out the same year. Wade led a shitty Heat team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Then he led the Heat to an NBA Championship the next season...and yes they had Shaq....but the fat diesel had nowhere near the impact he had during the Lakers run.

That Shaq is a hundred times better than what LJ has, hell even the current Shaq is a lot better than what LJ has. Then there was Posey, Walker, Payton, Mourning, Williams, Haslem. And let's not forget Pat Riley.

[Allanon]

http://badpussy.org/uploads/files/8tuak4qcdrb33ydzlz3g.jpg

[cobbler]

dont be stupid.

Duncan is the best PF of all time. Kobe isnt even the best SG of all-time. Duncan won 4 titles as #1 option. Kobe won 3 as #2 option.

Gervin > Kobe offensively. Let Kobe play in Gervin's era and see if he can hang with that kind of physicality.

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[DrHouse]

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The mods need to seriously create two topics and sticky them at the top of the forum.

1. "MJ > Kobe"
2. "Kobe vs. Lebron"

[Kobe™]

http://badpussy.org/uploads/files/8tuak4qcdrb33ydzlz3g.jpg

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[Ghazi]

First off, D-Whistle didn't win a championship.

Again, I know the trend with NBA fans is to get a hard on about these little things, but I've learned not to put too much stock into the occurrences of an 82 game season. The Lakers were playing poor before the X-Mas game, they were alittle upset, now they've righted the ship. Celtics were 27-2, then went 2-7 and started getting worried, had a long win streak again and now have lost 2 @ home to Western contenders (generous title to the Spurs).

Pistons must've felt great after winning @ Staples after Iverson trade, now they suck.

People always jump to conclusions about which team is the favorite, or which team is hot, or which team is fading. Etc. It's always knee jerk.

This Cavs v Lakers game is more important than say a game against the likes of the Thunder or Kings, but just as is the case in those games, crazy things can happen. If the Lakers lose to the Kings, we shouldn't put much stock into it. If the Lakers lose to the Spurs on a fluke bullshit Mason shot, we shouldn't put much stock into it.

Similarly, if the Lakers beat the Cavs with Lamar Odom flukishly going for 28/17, the Cavs flukishly shooting 39%, the King shooting 25%, and Fisher actually making his layups, we shouldn't put too much stock into it. It's just one game. People may say things such as the Lakers have a psychological edge on the Cavs since they went into the Q and won. i don't buy it, these guys are professionals, this isn't fucking high school or college.

Just because the media hype around the game, and the standings implications are more relevant, does not change the fact that the inferior team can sometimes win the game.


So again, we shouldn't put much stock into this game right now. The sexy pick as the " best team in the NBA" right now is the Lakers, and perhaps they deserve it... but the Cavs are still the best team in the NBA, because the King is the best player in the NBA.

[cobbler]

So we only put stock in if Cleveland actually wins the game and did it with Labron being the key.

What a tard

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Ghazi]

I didn't say that.

[DeadlyDynasty]

really?

Both came out the same year. Wade led a shitty Heat team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Then he led the Heat to an NBA Championship the next season...and yes they had Shaq....but the fat diesel had nowhere near the impact he had during the Lakers run.

I think we're referrring to this year's heat and cavs.
Don't underestimate Shaq's contribution to that Heat team...he had a lousy finals against Dallas but was big against detroit and chicago

[DAF86]

http://i41.tinypic.com/b5427o.png

Is that you in your avatar?

[sook]

First off, D-Whistle didn't win a championship.

Again, I know the trend with NBA fans is to get a hard on about these little things, but I've learned not to put too much stock into the occurrences of an 82 game season. The Lakers were playing poor before the X-Mas game, they were alittle upset, now they've righted the ship. Celtics were 27-2, then went 2-7 and started getting worried, had a long win streak again and now have lost 2 @ home to Western contenders (generous title to the Spurs).

Pistons must've felt great after winning @ Staples after Iverson trade, now they suck.

People always jump to conclusions about which team is the favorite, or which team is hot, or which team is fading. Etc. It's always knee jerk.

This Cavs v Lakers game is more important than say a game against the likes of the Thunder or Kings, but just as is the case in those games, crazy things can happen. If the Lakers lose to the Kings, we shouldn't put much stock into it. If the Lakers lose to the Spurs on a fluke bullshit Mason shot, we shouldn't put much stock into it.

Similarly, if the Lakers beat the Cavs with Lamar Odom flukishly going for 28/17, the Cavs flukishly shooting 39%, the King shooting 25%, and Fisher actually making his layups, we shouldn't put too much stock into it. It's just one game. People may say things such as the Lakers have a psychological edge on the Cavs since they went into the Q and won. i don't buy it, these guys are professionals, this isn't fucking high school or college.

Just because the media hype around the game, and the standings implications are more relevant, does not change the fact that the inferior team can sometimes win the game.


So again, we shouldn't put much stock into this game right now. The sexy pick as the " best team in the NBA" right now is the Lakers, and perhaps they deserve it... but the Cavs are still the best team in the NBA, because the King is the best player in the NBA.
sucking some beloved cock?

[Biggems]

First off, D-Whistle didn't win a championship.

Again, I know the trend with NBA fans is to get a hard on about these little things, but I've learned not to put too much stock into the occurrences of an 82 game season. The Lakers were playing poor before the X-Mas game, they were alittle upset, now they've righted the ship. Celtics were 27-2, then went 2-7 and started getting worried, had a long win streak again and now have lost 2 @ home to Western contenders (generous title to the Spurs).

Pistons must've felt great after winning @ Staples after Iverson trade, now they suck.

People always jump to conclusions about which team is the favorite, or which team is hot, or which team is fading. Etc. It's always knee jerk.

This Cavs v Lakers game is more important than say a game against the likes of the Thunder or Kings, but just as is the case in those games, crazy things can happen. If the Lakers lose to the Kings, we shouldn't put much stock into it. If the Lakers lose to the Spurs on a fluke bullshit Mason shot, we shouldn't put much stock into it.

Similarly, if the Lakers beat the Cavs with Lamar Odom flukishly going for 28/17, the Cavs flukishly shooting 39%, the King shooting 25%, and Fisher actually making his layups, we shouldn't put too much stock into it. It's just one game. People may say things such as the Lakers have a psychological edge on the Cavs since they went into the Q and won. i don't buy it, these guys are professionals, this isn't fucking high school or college.

Just because the media hype around the game, and the standings implications are more relevant, does not change the fact that the inferior team can sometimes win the game.


So again, we shouldn't put much stock into this game right now. The sexy pick as the " best team in the NBA" right now is the Lakers, and perhaps they deserve it... but the Cavs are still the best team in the NBA, because the King is the best player in the NBA.

last time I checked, D-Whistle did win a Championship. He beat that collective group of choke artists from Big D.

[Budkin]

Wow... what a game by Lamar Odom. This Laker team actually seems better with no Bynum. Scary.

[DrHouse]

Wow... what a game by Lamar Odom. This Laker team actually seems better with no Bynum. Scary.

Offensively yes.

But not defensively. The Lakers need Bynum back for the playoff run.

[Killakobe81]

looks like the Cavs are about to lose their 1st HG.....and Avery will be right. He picked the Spurs and Lakers to win today.

heard him say that too thought he was favoring spurs but pops decision came up BIG late in the game Mason is clutch ...spurs and Celts only thing between Lakers and a title ...

[Ghazi]

last time I checked, D-Whistle did win a Championship. He beat that collective group of choke artists from Big D.

What does it say about the Spurs that they lost to a bunch of "choke artists"?

[Ghazi]

heard him say that too thought he was favoring spurs but pops decision came up BIG late in the game Mason is clutch ...spurs and Celts only thing between Lakers and a title ...

Spurs? Why the fuck is everyone sucking the Spurs dick all of a sudden? All they did was beat Boston with Bonner scoring 23 flukish points.

The Spurs are not a bother to the Lakers at all. If we erase Mason's fluke shot against the Lakers earlier this year, the Spurs are 1-7 in their past 8 games against the Lakers. If I was a Lakers fan, I'd WANT to play a team I'm 7-1 against in the last 8 games.

The Cavs are the only thing that stands between anyone and a championship.

[Ghazi]

Anyone who thinks the Spurs are better than the Cavs is going by names rather than what the teams are actually accomplishing.

We all know Lebron is better than Duncan, but people think Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is a better core than Lebron/Mo/Z, and that Greg Popovich is a better coach than Mike Brown. These are fair points.

But, I go by what I see. What I see is the cavs are superior offensively to the Spurs, superior defensively, and have a better record and higher margin of victory.

[Killakobe81]

Ghazi LBJ is not the best player in the NBA though he is the most impressive ...
Fact: LBJ has no rings and played horrible in the NBA finals (Bowen with help kept him in check)...yet criticcs of Kobe or LBJ worshipers (like Ghazi) give him a pass ...
Fact:in last year's ECF as well as LBJ played he shot poorly and was outplayed by Pierce in the clutch (pierece outplayed Kobe to be fair)

Look LBJ is the best force of nature on a court becuse he is a slightly smaller Dwight howard with a gaurd's handles ...

But Kobe is better defensively (Lebron for defensive POY is full of crap) highlight blocks don't make you a great defender or Bowen Raja Bells would never get consideration ...

he is a better clutch shooter (check his rainbow fade today) ...

and he has a higher offensivel skill level

Kobe is more like tim duncan and Lebron is KG both forces that are tough to deal with but to be the best you need skill. Lebron has a lot of gifts and skills but not yet the skill-level of Duncan or kobe ...

When you can't rely on athleticisim ...great skill FT's, jumpshots when tired, etc they come to play ...

May go down someday better than kobe and MJ ...but that is NOT yet ....

[DeadlyDynasty]

Anyone who thinks the Spurs are better than the Cavs is going by names rather than what the teams are actually accomplishing.

We all know Lebron is better than Duncan, but people think Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is a better core than Lebron/Mo/Z, and that Greg Popovich is a better coach than Mike Brown. These are fair points.

But, I go by what I see. What I see is the cavs are superior offensively to the Spurs, superior defensively, and have a better record and higher margin of victory.

:lmao I respect the Spurs' core cause they've gotten it done before. The Lakers second unit put the game away early in the fourth when the Cavs' core was on the floor

[Killakobe81]

Anyone who thinks the Spurs are better than the Cavs is going by names rather than what the teams are actually accomplishing.

We all know Lebron is better than Duncan, but people think Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is a better core than Lebron/Mo/Z, and that Greg Popovich is a better coach than Mike Brown. These are fair points.

But, I go by what I see. What I see is the cavs are superior offensively to the Spurs, superior defensively, and have a better record and higher margin of victory.

Your a stat-head that's why ...
watching the games I would say ...
1.Celts
2.Lakers
3.spurs
4.Cavs
5.magic

the reason why late in games the Cavs have 2 clutch players Lebron (if he is hot or can get to the hoop) and Mo williams ...

Spurs have: Duncan, Manu, Mason and Parker who have hit game winning or game clinching shots ...

Celts have: Allen, Pierce and KG who have done the same ...

Lakers have: KOBE, Fish Gasol who have hit big shots to win games this year

Lebron is not proven like Duncan, Kobe Wade or Pierce in Finals play ...he may win the MVP and that is great but if you notice the last MVP to win a title was Shaq and duncan Nashx2, Dirk, AI even Kobe di not win a title go back past that Malone was a failure in that regard as well...

[Killakobe81]

:lmao I respect the Spurs' core cause they've gotten it done before. The Lakers second unit put the game away early in the fourth when the Cavs' core was on the floor

Agreed Spurs are proven hell even Bowen has hit clutch shots in games ...

[MarHill]

Anyone who thinks the Spurs are better than the Cavs is going by names rather than what the teams are actually accomplishing.

We all know Lebron is better than Duncan, but people think Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is a better core than Lebron/Mo/Z, and that Greg Popovich is a better coach than Mike Brown. These are fair points.

But, I go by what I see. What I see is the cavs are superior offensively to the Spurs, superior defensively, and have a better record and higher margin of victory.

I don't know what you are seeing?

Duncan/Parker/Ginobili is one of the best Big 3's in the league. I feel the Spurs' offense is better than the Cavs offense.

Also, Lebron and Duncan play different positions and it's no way either one could stop each other.

Yes, the Cavs have a better record..but it's never been about the best record in winning the NBA title..especially when it comes to the Spurs.

And I feel the Spurs could beat the Cavs in a 7 game series!!

[sook]

I don't know what you are seeing?

Duncan/Parker/Ginobili is one of the best Big 3's in the league. I feel the Spurs' offense is better than the Cavs offense.

Also, Lebron and Duncan play different positions and it's no way either one could stop each other.

Yes, the Cavs have a better record..but it's never been about the best record in winning the NBA title..especially when it comes to the Spurs.

And I feel the Spurs could beat the Cavs in a 7 game series!!

Dude..you don't even need to state that...or try proving it to Ghazi. What you just said most people hold to be true

[Ghazi]

I don't know what you are seeing?

Duncan/Parker/Ginobili is one of the best Big 3's in the league. I feel the Spurs' offense is better than the Cavs offense.

Also, Lebron and Duncan play different positions and it's no way either one could stop each other.

Yes, the Cavs have a better record..but it's never been about the best record in winning the NBA title..especially when it comes to the Spurs.

And I feel the Spurs could beat the Cavs in a 7 game series!!


Again:

better defense
better offense
better superstar
better record
better margin of victory

So, why are we supposed to believe the Spurs are better than the Cavs? Because the Spurs won today and the Cavs lost today?:rolleyes

[MarHill]

Again:

better defense
better offense
better superstar
better record
better margin of victory

So, why are we supposed to believe the Spurs are better than the Cavs? Because the Spurs won today and the Cavs lost today?:rolleyes

What is with you and the Spurs?

Yes...they statisically have a better defense. The Cavs have always had a good defense.

Again...they don't have a better offense. Especially with the Big 3 and emergence of Mason, Bonner, and Hill. But, you seem to forget that factor.

Yes...Lebron has more popularity but who cares? Duncan has 4 rings (and defeated Lebron two years ago for one of them) and Lebron has 0 rings.

Yes...they have a better margin of victory. Again...it won't matter when they face the Celtics or the Magic in the playoffs.

And still the Spurs would beat the Cavs in a 7 game series.

I know you don't like the Spurs...but please be objective. Yikes!!

:flag:

[Ghazi]

I am being objective, someone said the Spurs/Lakers were the best teams in the NBA and I disputed it.

[MarHill]

Dude..you don't even need to state that...or try proving it to Ghazi. What you just said most people hold to be true

Thanks!

But some posters should be somewhat objective.

For example, I don't like the Lakers but I have to acknowledge they are one of the best teams this year and are a favorite to win it all.

However, to just dismiss a team with one of the best Big 3's in the league and that core has won 75% of their games (3 out of 4 games) since 2003 and three 3 titles (and are still playing good basketball)is just ridiculous.

[Ghazi]

I didn't dismiss them, its just that the Cavs are better. If the Spurs advance to the Finals they can beat the Cavs, but it'll require some fluky shots.

[MarHill]

I am being objective, someone said the Spurs/Lakers were the best teams in the NBA and I disputed it.

They are the best teams in the NBA along with the Cavs, Celtics, and Magic.

The Spurs have the 2nd best record in the west after starting 2-5 and have one of the best road records in the league.

Again, you are not being objective.

[MarHill]

I didn't dismiss them, its just that the Cavs are better. If the Spurs advance to the Finals they can beat the Cavs, but it'll require some fluky shots.

You and that word..."fluke" again!

You are showing me that you are not being objective.

What the Spurs have done since 2003...is there for everybody to see and they will be right there in the end.

[21_Blessings]

Lakers > Spurs > Celtics > Cavs > Magic

Kobe > Duncan > LeBronze

[DeadlyDynasty]

I am being objective, someone said the Spurs/Lakers were the best teams in the NBA and I disputed it.

As of RIGHT NOW, it's hard to dispute that Lakers/Spurs are the 2 best right now, with Boston close behind. Boston is struggling defensively right now, but they're a veteran ball club and they'll pull through it.
I just find it hard to believe that Cleveland is a top 2 team when the Lakers 2nd unit put the Cavs away tonight (while Cleveland's starters were on the floor).

[Ghazi]

I find it hard to believe the Lakers are a top 2 team when the Bobcats beat them even after wallace got hurt.

[Pelicans78]

Looking back at the what the Magic has done this season, you can make a case for them being the best team in the league before Nelson went down. They actually swept the Lakers and the Spurs and pounded Cleveland before his injury.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Looking back at the what the Magic has done this season, you can make a case for them being the best team in the league before Nelson went down. They actually swept the Lakers and the Spurs and pounded Cleveland before his injury.

true but boston has their #...still, Magic are somewhere in the top 5

[Rogue]

lakers' power has been discounted by over half since bynum left this game.

[Allanon]

I find it hard to believe the Lakers are a top 2 team when the Bobcats beat them even after wallace got hurt.

Bobcats have owned the Lakers for like 3 years now. I've just learned to accept it.

Losses against the Kings/Grizz and Thudah are expected as well.

[DAF86]

Lakers > Spurs > Celtics > Cavs > Magic

Kobe > Duncan > LeBronze

Lakers > Spurs=Celtics > Cavs > Magic

Lebron > Kobe > Duncan

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

Kobe >>>> lebron...duncan

[gmartin02]

I am being objective, someone said the Spurs/Lakers were the best teams in the NBA and I disputed it.I guess someone else is also disputing it.

Today's Marc Stein's ESPN power rankings:
1 - Lakers
2 - Spurs
3 - Celtics
4 - Cavs

[TheNextGen]

Lebron > Kobe > Duncan


lol..a guy who cant shoot 3's, shoot a jumper, post up, make free throws is better than Kobe.

Kobe > Duncan > Lebron

[DAF86]

lol..a guy who cant shoot 3's, shoot a jumper, post up, make free throws is better than Kobe.

Kobe > Duncan > Lebron

He can make all of those things and many more

[TheNextGen]

He can make all of those things and many more

as long as Derek Fisher doesn't guard him in the post.