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Cant_Be_Faded
02-09-2009, 02:32 AM
I saw the Dark Knight this weekend.

Thoughts:

I was right, this was the most insanely overrated film of the year, possibly of all time.

Bale's Batman Voice is outright distracting during some scenes.

The plot should have been easier to follow.

The quick-cut action scenes weren't as bad as some said in the other threads, but I still thought they could have used a wide still shot here and there.

Ledger was not as good in this role as you said he was, in fact, I feel flat out scared that my Ledger prediction will not come true now. He was good, but NOWHERE near as good as you jack-offs claimed he was. I liked his voice, though. I think if this were rated R and they showed some real carnage, I would have came away liking his role a lot more.

The "Psycho killer, deranged, scary" Joker that E20 jacked off to prior to this movie was not in this movie. It might have been because they did not show one drop of blood, or because everytime Joker did something violent it was quick and the shot changed. I mean, jesus christ, he shoots someone in the face at point blank range and theres no splatter? PG-13 to the rescue again, I guess.


Maggie Gyllenhall.


Could have used more Dent, especially post-accident.

The whole interplay between Batman and Joker could have been more intense. Some of it was just rushed, and other parts of the movie were dragged on, I wanted to fast forward it. The way Joker perverts Dent was comical.

So there you have it.

timvp
02-09-2009, 02:35 AM
With as much as you trashed it before even watching it, what were the chances you were going to "like" it? You had a better chance of turning on an OU football game and becoming a fan of the Sooners by the final whistle.

BCS

Boomer

Sooner

Cant_Be_Faded
02-09-2009, 02:41 AM
With as much as you trashed it before even watching it, what were the chances you were going to "like" it? You had a better chance of turning on an OU football game and becoming a fan of the Sooners by the final whistle.











P.S.

Haven't seen it yet. :hat

Better than you'd think. I'm actually pretty objective once I finally get into a movie. If I'm gonna be forced to watch something, I'm not gonna throw a tantrum and be a bitch, I'll try my best to enjoy it.

I would give it a 7 out of 10. Most of that would be due to the high budget and high profile actors involved.

But seeing as how there were Dark Knight threads from pages 1 - 2 of the club STRAIGHT, I'd say I was pretty on point about this movie being overrated as shit. And if you combine the 7/10 rating with the insanely high overrated coefficient, you get

A piece of shit.

whottt
02-09-2009, 02:45 AM
I actually thought Eckhart as Harvey Dent stole the movie....the best acting job in this film was his.


That said...I don't think you're being very fair to Ledger, this was the definitive Joker performance...and when you are talking about a portrayal in which Jack Nicholson is one of your competitors, and Ledger clearly blew Nicholson's performance off the map, something that has never been done before...he deserves the credit he is getting. It was a tough role...

Plus he died...it's tough to top death.


I certainly don't think it's an outrage or anything if Ledger wins.



IMHO, the actor who clearly deserves the best supporting actor Oscar this year is Tom Cruise for his performance in Tropic Thunder...


And if you don't like it, how about I send you a hobo's dickcheese.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-09-2009, 02:50 AM
Point taken. And I would not be outraged if he won. I'd be vindicated. :smokin

I just don't think he was that special. But I can definitely tell you if this movie weren't going for all the hard earned money all these people blasted on it, and instead went for real art. REAL art....grotesque, visceral, gory, vivd, flamboyantly violent art...

He could have indeed played the role of a generation.

But in the words of Keith Jackson, nothing of the sort happened.

EricB
02-09-2009, 03:30 AM
Well, it is a comic book story, so you have to take that into account...

Ignignokt
02-09-2009, 03:49 AM
the physcologicaly disturbing themes were not matched by the gore and blood count.

In Victorian Dialect it's like watching a bukkake with the sperms censored.

Heath Ledger
02-09-2009, 03:54 AM
Let me chime in here. Fuck off.

The Reckoning
02-09-2009, 08:01 AM
Eckhart persuaded me to smoke cigarettes.

great actor :smokin


jack deserves the "best joker" award because he survived the role.

The Reckoning
02-09-2009, 08:05 AM
i saw "The Bear." i watched that shit every day.

actually i change my mind. Mark Hamill was the best joker.

balli
02-09-2009, 12:31 PM
Mark Hamill was the best joker.
Fuck yeah. Just like Kevin Conroy's the best Batman. And they're both doing the voices for the new Batman video game. :smokin
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tp2021
02-09-2009, 01:01 PM
This movie is just one of the best movies made.
I asked him if he still thought that.He never answered.

Frenzy
02-09-2009, 01:05 PM
ohh ohh let me jump on this wagon :wakeup

desflood
02-09-2009, 01:32 PM
Bale's Batman Voice is outright distracting during some scenes.
You're right - that tore down a few scenes that could have been decent otherwise.

Spurminator
02-09-2009, 02:18 PM
I'd say it was an above average action flick, and a well above average comic book movie. I think the fanboys crying foul over its snub for the Best Picture award are stretching its merits quite a bit.

As for Ledger, I fully expected his performance to be overrated but even with low expectations going in, he won me over. I'd have no problem with him winning.

FreeMason
02-09-2009, 02:32 PM
They try to stuff too many villains in a single comic book movie. Almost all of them are doing it.

Richard Cranium
02-09-2009, 02:33 PM
It was entertaining.

smeagol
02-09-2009, 02:47 PM
Ledger will get it.

Xylus
02-09-2009, 03:02 PM
Go fuck yourself.

You had pre-conceived notions about the film. You found the film guilty before giving it a fair trial, and it affected your final opinion.

CuckingFunt
02-09-2009, 03:08 PM
Ledger will get it.

Without question.

And, ultimately, it's an award worthy performance. Not my choice this year (I'd like to see either Downey or Brolin win), but still damn good work.

chode_regulator
02-09-2009, 09:26 PM
I actually thought Eckhart as Harvey Dent stole the movie....the best acting job in this film was his.


That said...I don't think you're being very fair to Ledger, this was the definitive Joker performance...and when you are talking about a portrayal in which Jack Nicholson is one of your competitors, and Ledger clearly blew Nicholson's performance off the map, something that has never been done before...he deserves the credit he is getting. It was a tough role...

Plus he died...it's tough to top death.


I certainly don't think it's an outrage or anything if Ledger wins.



IMHO, the actor who clearly deserves the best supporting actor Oscar this year is Tom Cruise for his performance in Tropic Thunder...


And if you don't like it, how about I send you a hobo's dickcheese.

i thought tom cruise was the only funny part of that whole movie. i saw tropic thunder after i looked online and the theater showed pineapple express still playing and it wasnt when i got there.

anywho, i agree with CBF for the most part. except dent sucked. and they def didnt need more dent.

and no one will ever be better than nicholson playing the joker.

jackseven
02-10-2009, 03:36 AM
I saw the Dark Knight this weekend.

Thoughts:

I was right, this was the most insanely overrated film of the year, possibly of all time.

Bale's Batman Voice is outright distracting during some scenes.

The plot should have been easier to follow.

The quick-cut action scenes weren't as bad as some said in the other threads, but I still thought they could have used a wide still shot here and there.

Ledger was not as good in this role as you said he was, in fact, I feel flat out scared that my Ledger prediction will not come true now. He was good, but NOWHERE near as good as you jack-offs claimed he was. I liked his voice, though. I think if this were rated R and they showed some real carnage, I would have came away liking his role a lot more.

The "Psycho killer, deranged, scary" Joker that E20 jacked off to prior to this movie was not in this movie. It might have been because they did not show one drop of blood, or because everytime Joker did something violent it was quick and the shot changed. I mean, jesus christ, he shoots someone in the face at point blank range and theres no splatter? PG-13 to the rescue again, I guess.


Maggie Gyllenhall.


Could have used more Dent, especially post-accident.

The whole interplay between Batman and Joker could have been more intense. Some of it was just rushed, and other parts of the movie were dragged on, I wanted to fast forward it. The way Joker perverts Dent was comical.

So there you have it.

Saw it for the first time this weekend as well.

Above average movie, but it was way overrated (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809271891/user). I think this one was a classic case of people wanting it to be awesome so much they convinced themselves of it.

Same theme with Ledger. I thought he was pretty good, but I didn't feel he had an epic performance like I was assured would be the case.

As previously stated, Batman's voice was bad.

It's really hard for something to live up to as huge a billing as this movie had so it's no surprise it fell short. It is a surprise how far short it did fall.

I'd give it a B-.

If you're going to make a 2.5 hour film, there should be more content. I agree with Can't Be Faded that some of the film was rushed while other scenes were dwelled on too long.

Worth the watch, but not the hype.

whottt
02-10-2009, 03:51 AM
heath ledger's joker better than jack nicholson's?

no way

Yes way. Nicholson's joker was a buffoon and nothing more than self parody. Not intimidating or fearsome at all...

Ledger's was malevolent, exactly as the character was intended to be.

whottt
02-10-2009, 03:58 AM
i thought tom cruise was the only funny part of that whole movie. i saw tropic thunder after i looked online and the theater showed pineapple express still playing and it wasnt when i got there.

anywho, i agree with CBF for the most part. except dent sucked. and they def didnt need more dent.

and no one will ever be better than nicholson playing the joker.

While I generally consider you, sight unseen, to be the elite of the V-crew due to your service to our country, while their idea patriotism is seeing how many bonghits it's humanly possible to inhale while simultaneously non-stop bitching about neocons, during an episode of the O'reilly factor...

I gotta disagee with everything you said here except the part about Tom Cruise.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-10-2009, 04:00 AM
Don't judge me, that's your idea of patriotism too. Except switch the word neocon with liberal and the Factor with Wolf Blitzer.

whottt
02-10-2009, 04:09 AM
Don't judge me, that's your idea of patriotism too. Except switch the word neocon with liberal and the Factor with Wolf Blitzer.

Wolf Blitzer is kind of an ahole. I don't watch the news though...especially if it annoys me.

The Reckoning
02-10-2009, 08:31 AM
Don't judge me, that's your idea of patriotism too. Except switch the word neocon with liberal and the Factor with Wolf Blitzer.


what's the matter? the CIA got you pushing too many pencils?

MannyIsGod
02-10-2009, 08:32 AM
While I generally consider you, sight unseen, to be the elite of the V-crew due to your service to our country, while their idea patriotism is seeing how many bonghits it's humanly possible to inhale while simultaneously non-stop bitching about neocons, during an episode of the O'reilly factor...

I gotta disagee with everything you said here except the part about Tom Cruise.

LOL best Whottt post ever.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-10-2009, 11:27 AM
i will say that heath ledger did a good joker, but he was doing nicholson's joker 1/2 of the time anyway. the other half of the time he was being a "why so serious" emo toast fucker

Hey...you know what....now that you mention it, Ledger's Joker was a total toast fucker

Spurminator
02-10-2009, 11:48 AM
I thought Tom Cruise's scenes in Tropic Thunder were horrible. And I'm not necessarily anti-Tom Cruise. But basically, the joke seemed to be "OMG that's TOM CRUISE!!" which wasn't really funny. And then it got worse.

The best part of the movie were the trailers at the very beginning, followed by Robert Downey Jr. The rest was very meh.

monosylab1k
02-10-2009, 12:03 PM
The first time I saw Tropic Thunder I laughed my ass off. The second time I saw it, I hardly laughed at all. All the jokes seem to be the type that make you laugh out of surprise & shock the first time you see it, but when that initial surprise wears off, it all seems pretty lame.

Alex Jones
02-10-2009, 12:15 PM
Before you get on people for over hyping the movie keep in mind these are the same asshats that think WTC7 fell down due to fire.

MannyIsGod
02-10-2009, 12:55 PM
The trailers were great, but the part where he throws the kid still makes me die everytime I see it. I agree it was funniest the first time through then not so much though. Pineapple Express man, now there is a funny ass movie.

CuckingFunt
02-10-2009, 02:34 PM
I thought Tom Cruise's scenes in Tropic Thunder were horrible. And I'm not necessarily anti-Tom Cruise. But basically, the joke seemed to be "OMG that's TOM CRUISE!!" which wasn't really funny. And then it got worse.

The best part of the movie were the trailers at the very beginning, followed by Robert Downey Jr. The rest was very meh.

This.

Except I'd rate Robert Downey Jr. as the best, and the trailers as second best.

EricB
02-10-2009, 02:39 PM
I thought Tom Cruise's scenes in Tropic Thunder were horrible. And I'm not necessarily anti-Tom Cruise. But basically, the joke seemed to be "OMG that's TOM CRUISE!!" which wasn't really funny. And then it got worse.

The best part of the movie were the trailers at the very beginning, followed by Robert Downey Jr. The rest was very meh.


I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thought that movie sucked major donkey ass.

EricB
02-10-2009, 02:40 PM
The trailers were great, but the part where he throws the kid still makes me die everytime I see it. I agree it was funniest the first time through then not so much though. Pineapple Express man, now there is a funny ass movie.


DUDE, I haven't seen that.

Is it Superbad level funny?

leemajors
02-10-2009, 02:41 PM
i fell asleep, woke up when he killed the panda cub, and then turned it off. i thought pineapple express was much funnier. the best part of the whole thing, i thought, was this:

http://www.tuggspeedman.com/

Spurminator
02-10-2009, 03:15 PM
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thought that movie sucked major donkey ass.


:lol

I don't know if I'd go that far, I'm glad I saw it and I laughed a few times, but it was very forgettable.

The Reckoning
02-10-2009, 03:35 PM
you have to have seen (and loved) apocalypse now alot before watching tropic thunder

tp2021
02-10-2009, 03:42 PM
DUDE, I haven't seen that.

Is it Superbad level funny?

Superbad was a huge disappointment for me. I wanted to laugh. But it just wasn't very funny. Pineapple Express >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reallybad

The Franchise
02-10-2009, 07:35 PM
heath ledger's joker better than jack nicholson's?

no way

+1

slayermin
02-11-2009, 02:25 AM
you have to have seen (and loved) apocalypse now alot before watching tropic thunder

I have seen Apocalypse Now a few times including the Redux version. I have also watched Hearts of Darkness a couple of times and loved everything about both films. But Tropic Thunder just wasn't very good. I was much more entertained by the new Rambo film.

Like other people have posted, Tom Cruise was great as the asshole movie producer. The video conference scene when he tells the grip to hit Steve Coogan in his face was the best scene of the whole film. "Diet Coke!"

whottt
02-11-2009, 02:32 AM
+1

-1

whottt
02-11-2009, 02:34 AM
What exactly a toast fucker?

And can we expect a newly registered member from Victoria called toast fucker regulator at some point in the future?

whottt
02-11-2009, 02:37 AM
I thought Tom Cruise's scenes in Tropic Thunder were horrible. And I'm not necessarily anti-Tom Cruise. But basically, the joke seemed to be "OMG that's TOM CRUISE!!" which wasn't really funny. And then it got worse.

The best part of the movie were the trailers at the very beginning, followed by Robert Downey Jr. The rest was very meh.


I didn't even know it was Tom Cruise until the credits...I didn't even know Tom Cruise was in it. It makes a difference IMHO.


I'm not saying the movie itself is particularly great...although I enjoyed it, then again I only saw it once(the last movie I saw twice was Raiders of the Lost Ark).

mardigan
02-11-2009, 04:14 AM
Pineapple Express >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reallybad

:lol

Red: Do you know what today is?
Saul: Tuesday.
Red: This is my cat's birthday today.
Dale Denton: I don't see a cat in here. I'm sorry. Did you let it out by accident?
Red: No, because he died three months ago, okay? So now who's the funny guy?
Dale Denton: I'm sorry?
Red: Today is his birthday and it is a tradition that on his birthday I get up extra early and make him his favorite kind of dessert.
Saul: Don't worry, bro. Your cat's going to heaven.
Red: Yeah, maybe. Maybe he went to heaven. He was a little fucker. He could've gone to hell.


The character Red was one of the funniest performances I've ever seen in my life, he killed me. And James Franco was freaking awesome.

I also just watched Zack and Miri Make a Porno, which sucked ass. But the kid from the Mac/PC commercials, killed it, stole the whole movie in his 5 minutes.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-11-2009, 04:36 AM
That fat jew seth rogan sucks, we got flooded with seth rogan performances. But pineapple express was pretty fucking funny.

desflood
02-11-2009, 08:23 AM
Pineapple Express was funny in spite of Seth Rogen, not because of. The exception being the scene in the woods with the giant bug.