That guy Goran Tragic is terrible [Archive]

ElNono

02-09-2009, 08:50 PM

In all honesty, Sixers kicked our butts this season... I was there when it happened...
That said, you would think Porter would fight for his job and play somebody other than Tragic and a bunch of other scrubs...

Darthkiller

02-09-2009, 09:01 PM

terry porter pulled all the starters(cept amare, everyone knows he is gonna stay on to pat this stats) in the 2nd half

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:02 PM

The Suns suck in real life but those guys are friggin unstoppable in my Nba Live (No disrespect to Suns Fans)

Na dude, they are flat out nasty on 2k9 as well.

DeadlyDynasty

02-09-2009, 09:09 PM

pauls931

02-09-2009, 09:11 PM

an 18 point lead w/ half a quarter left was not a guarantee against D'Antoni's suns...Porter can't afford to wave the white flag when they're fighting for a playoff spot. Further proof that Porter is the worst coach in the Association

After his quote about being out yesterday, I feel like he has a limitted number of appearances left as the head coach.

lil_penny

02-09-2009, 09:12 PM

if dragic was 6 inches taller he could be a potential HOFer

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:13 PM

an 18 point lead w/ half a quarter left was not a guarantee against D'Antoni's suns...Porter can't afford to wave the white flag when they're fighting for a playoff spot. Further proof that Porter is the worst coach in the Association

You're not being fair to Mike Dunleavy or Vinny Del Negro at all.

DeadlyDynasty

02-09-2009, 09:17 PM

You're not being fair to Mike Dunleavy or Vinny Del Negro at all.

True, or Michael Curry. Dunleavy and Del Negro have a look of helplessness on the sidelines. Curry and Porter have a look of cluelessness

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:20 PM

True, or Michael Curry. Dunleavy and Del Negro have a look of helplessness on the sidelines. Curry and Porter have a look of cluelessness

Good point, Curry at least does stuff here and there. Porter is way worse than him.

TheProfessor

02-09-2009, 09:21 PM

Kerr got owned so badly on that trade.

DeadlyDynasty

02-09-2009, 09:22 PM

LeBron might put up 60 on the Suns...i'm not even joking

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:23 PM

LeBron might put up 60 on the Suns...i'm not even joking

No i'm going for 15+ assists, I think they'll throw some really lame double teams at him.

Kobayagi

02-09-2009, 09:28 PM

6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 15 minutes of action. Given enough minutes this Tragic guy could be averaging triple-doubles.
:wow

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:34 PM

6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 15 minutes of action. Given enough minutes this Tragic guy could be averaging triple-doubles.
:wow

:lmao

IronMexican

02-09-2009, 09:38 PM

6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists in 15 minutes of action. Given enough minutes this Tragic guy could be averaging triple-doubles.
:wow

:lmao:lmao:lmao

This comment doesn't surprise me with that flag under you're name.

Ghazi

02-09-2009, 09:38 PM

2007 Playoffs were rigged, poor Suns.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:39 PM

2007 Playoffs were rigged, poor Suns.

Ya like they worked out so well Dallas.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-09-2009, 09:40 PM

O I'm sorry, your beloved Mavericks.....homo.

Ghazi

02-09-2009, 09:42 PM

Suns and Mavs should have all the Spurs titles, Spurs are just lucky Kerr hit a bunch of fluke shots, David Stern implemented a fluke technicality, and Sarver is a cheap cuckold.

Kobayagi

02-09-2009, 09:42 PM

This comment doesn't surprise me with that flag under you're name.

It was meant to be sarcastic. My fellow countryman or not...Tragic sucks...unfortunately.

And I'm not into that Kill-Bill-type homerism as you can see.

IronMexican

02-09-2009, 09:43 PM

It was meant to be sarcastic. My fellow countryman or not...Tragic sucks...unfortunately.

And I'm not into that Kill-Bill-type homerism as you can see.

:toast My bad.

timtonymanu

02-10-2009, 01:44 AM

wasnt this the same guy that said he plays like Tony Parker?

Austin_Toros

02-10-2009, 01:50 AM

trading him is starting to look better and better

ezau

02-10-2009, 02:02 AM

Suns and Mavs should have all the Spurs titles, Spurs are just lucky Kerr hit a bunch of fluke shots, David Stern implemented a fluke technicality, and Sarver is a cheap cuckold.

Are you nuts? Dallas had the chance to win in 06 and choked against Miami. a year later, Dallas had the best record and what happened? Your team got nailed in the ass by a mediocre Warriors team. I hate these fucking Mavs fans who always pretend that they have accomplished something.

pawe

02-10-2009, 02:23 AM

wasnt this the same guy that said he plays like Tony Parker?

They said he's the next Steve Nash.

anakha

02-10-2009, 02:40 AM

Hairston is thanking his lucky stars he got traded.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-10-2009, 03:03 AM

Seriously? A Goran Dragic thread makes two pages?

And he's been horrible, but give him a coach who can let him play his game and put him in position to succeed, and he'd be better. Dude def. has talent.

Ghazi

02-10-2009, 03:22 AM

Are you nuts? Dallas had the chance to win in 06 and choked against Miami. a year later, Dallas had the best record and what happened? Your team got nailed in the ass by a mediocre Warriors team. I hate these fucking Mavs fans who always pretend that they have accomplished something.

What have YOU accomplished? :bking

ezau

02-10-2009, 04:58 AM

What have YOU accomplished? :bking

Mavs= Spurs Bitch

pauls931

02-10-2009, 09:17 AM

They said he's the next Steve Nash.

He's white. He's from a foreign country. How can he possibly not be the next Steve Nash. That said, ya I think the coaching staff is not doing their job here. I think something they may not get is when Nash goes to the bench it takes more than just a good guard to make things work. They put Goran in a position to fail just like every other backup PG they used.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-10-2009, 09:27 AM

He's white. He's from a foreign country. How can he possibly not be the next Steve Nash. That said, ya I think the coaching staff is not doing their job here. I think something they may not get is when Nash goes to the bench it takes more than just a good guard to make things work. They put Goran in a position to fail just like every other backup PG they used.

basically

pauls931

02-10-2009, 09:30 AM

basically

I think Joe Johnson was the only backup PG they had so far with enough talent to overcome this position. What I would like them to do is have shaq in and just have goran run some simple sets to build up his confidence over time.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-10-2009, 09:47 AM

I think Joe Johnson was the only backup PG they had so far with enough talent to overcome this position. What I would like them to do is have shaq in and just have goran run some simple sets to build up his confidence over time.

I think he needs to be on the court with the great players on the team so they can actually finish the shots he creates....I basically agree with you.

pauls931

02-10-2009, 09:56 AM

I think he needs to be on the court with the great players on the team so they can actually finish the shots he creates....I basically agree with you.

man I feel all dirty all of a sudden. haha

ploto

02-10-2009, 09:57 AM

wasnt this the same guy that said he plays like Tony Parker?

If you ever watched their national teams play, you would know that Goran defended Tony Parker better than just about anyone I have ever seen and on more than one occasion. And no, he plays more like Manu than Tony. Unfortunately, he should have stayed in Europe a couple more years.

N4th4n

02-10-2009, 09:59 AM

and Sarver is a cheap cuckold.

I dont think you know what a cuckold is.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

02-10-2009, 11:23 AM

If you ever watched their national teams play, you would know that Goran defended Tony Parker better than just about anyone I have ever seen and on more than one occasion. And no, he plays more like Manu than Tony. Unfortunately, he should have stayed in Europe a couple more years.

True statement, his defense on Parker overseas was raved about.

And yes he plays more like Manu, and not just cuz he's a lefty. He's got great court vision and passing skills comparable to that of Manu, and he gets in the paint with ease, his problem is confidence, strength and finishing ability. He has plenty of potential.

manufor3

02-10-2009, 12:10 PM

can we go ahead and pink ghazi?

Kill_Bill_Pana

02-10-2009, 02:11 PM

It was meant to be sarcastic. My fellow countryman or not...Tragic sucks...unfortunately.

And I'm not into that Kill-Bill-type homerism as you can see.

:lmao

Oh yes because you know that Dragic would get majority of point guard minutes in club like PAO:rolleyes

Spanoulis controls most minutes for PAO at PG and Dragic would never even see the court in club like PAO. He would be riding bench same place as Verginis is.

Kobayagi

02-10-2009, 04:01 PM

Wtf has anything you just said have to do with anything I said?

Kill_Bill_Pana

02-10-2009, 04:43 PM

Wtf has anything you just said have to do with anything I said?

I am not overrate Spanoulis at all. Anyone with brain knows he is one best guards in the world.

DUNCANownsKOBE2

05-08-2010, 09:28 AM

I'm so glad we traded that guy up...
He keeps shooting airballs and can't guard anybody...
Yup, he shot tons of airballs last night and couldn't guard shit, he sucks!

Kerr got owned so badly on that trade.
Yeah dude totally, Defat Blair and Malik Hairston killed the Suns and Dragic couldn't do jack shit against SA.

wasnt this the same guy that said he plays like Tony Parker?
Geez I wish, Tony Parker SMOKED him in this series

trading him is starting to look better and better
:tu totally disastrous mistake for Phoenix to have faith in him

Hairston is thanking his lucky stars he got traded.
True. Last night, Hairston went home a hero. Dragic went home a dejected scrub who couldn't get off the losing team's bench.

Seriously? A Goran Dragic thread makes two pages?

And he's been horrible, but give him a coach who can let him play his game and put him in position to succeed, and he'd be better. Dude def. has talent.
:lmao what a dumby I am, like coaching was the only thing stopping this guy from being good. How much has firing Porter done for Tragic, basically nothing, it's impossible to mask the guy's immense lack of talent.

TheProfessor

05-08-2010, 09:31 AM

Yeah dude totally, Defat Blair and Malik Hairston killed the Suns and Dragic couldn't do jack shit against SA.
Sigh...

http://pumpingirony.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/EatCrow.jpg

Though at the time, he looked pretty awful. But yeah, Kerr knew what he was doing.

jack sommerset

05-08-2010, 09:35 AM

Smart thread.

IronMexican

05-08-2010, 09:43 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao

This comment doesn't surprise me with that flag under you're name.

Hah, I bet you feel like such a retard now, huh, IronMexican? Not me. I always believed in him.

pauls931

05-08-2010, 09:47 AM

Pero

05-08-2010, 10:10 AM

Here's most of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuTrbOx8O4A&feature=player_embedded

DUNCANownsKOBE2

05-08-2010, 10:18 AM

If I knew how to turn DVR recordings into youtube videos I would. I recorded the whole game (and yeah, I've watched the 4th quarter a few times since the game ended :lol).

Xylus

05-08-2010, 10:35 AM

Dragic scored 26 points in 17 minutes of play. This is the most points scored by a player who logged less than 20 minutes in a playoff game, in NBA history.

pauls931

05-08-2010, 10:53 AM

thx for posting that.

Pero

05-08-2010, 10:54 AM

Dragic scored 26 points in 17 minutes of play. This is the most points scored by a player who logged less than 20 minutes in a playoff game, in NBA history.

:wow

boston.balla

05-08-2010, 01:22 PM

jj hickson for amare would have made the suns to look like utah jazz 90s reloaded :lol

Dragic was really insane btw:toast

SomeCallMeTim

05-08-2010, 02:36 PM

I hope someone youtubes his 4th quarter. Rarely have I seen a player go nuts like that, hell Lebron rarely has quarters like that (take fg% into account) let alone a backup PG that the no one outside of suns and spur fans know about. He completely baffled the D. Another thing, it seems the pattern is the Spurs bust ass for 3 quarters, then run out of gas in the 4th...

I think we've all seen great players go off in a 4th quarter before, it happens plenty of times each year. Thing is, it's almost always a LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Allen, etc.

For it to be a "scrub," a guy virtually unheard of, a backup to a star who mostly rides the pine, against a decent defensive team on the road in the playoffs... that's what makes it remarkable. And that wasn't just hot shooting, the guy killed the Spurs from everywhere. Nailing 3-pt bombs, drives to the hoop, even some nifty footwork Dream moves in the paint. No one could check him, he made Hill, Parker, Duncan, and Blair all look silly at times during the quarter.

Don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it. Spurs never could quite adjust to it because I think even they couldn't believe it.

Kamnik

05-08-2010, 05:56 PM

Dragic scored 26 points in 17 minutes of play. This is the most points scored by a player who logged less than 20 minutes in a playoff game, in NBA history.

Insane!

I still can't believe what Goran did... I am loosing a nice amount of money because Suns will probably eliminate Spurs but this must be the best feeling I ever had when loosing $$$ :lol:lol

Jeremy

05-08-2010, 07:05 PM

I think we've all seen great players go off in a 4th quarter before, it happens plenty of times each year. Thing is, it's almost always a LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Allen, etc.

For it to be a "scrub," a guy virtually unheard of, a backup to a star who mostly rides the pine, against a decent defensive team on the road in the playoffs... that's what makes it remarkable. And that wasn't just hot shooting, the guy killed the Spurs from everywhere. Nailing 3-pt bombs, drives to the hoop, even some nifty footwork Dream moves in the paint. No one could check him, he made Hill, Parker, Duncan, and Blair all look silly at times during the quarter.

Don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it. Spurs never could quite adjust to it because I think even they couldn't believe it.

Yeah, we call that the Dragon Shake: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147649