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Winehole23
02-10-2009, 12:03 PM
Dallas County looks to traffic ticket revenue for budget shortfall (http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2009/02/dallas-county-looks-to-traffic-ticket.html)

The February issue of Car and Driver includes a story describing how many jurisdictions are giving more traffic tickets as a revenue booster during tough financial times (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/more_tickets_in_hard_times_feature):


Some police officers, such as Sgt. Richard Lyons of Trenton, Michigan, say they don’t like being pressured to write more tickets.
“That’s not what I got into law enforcement for—to hand out chintzy tickets,” says Lyons, a 21-year veteran. “Things have changed from when I first started in this job. There was a time when you’d come in, do your job, and go home.
But I’ve never felt pressure to bring revenue to the city like we do now.
“It’s a whole different ball game now,” Lyons says. “They’re trying to use police officers to balance the budget on the backs of drivers, and it’s too bad. The people we count on to support us and help us when we’re on the road are the ones who end up paying the bills, and they’re ticked off about it. We might as well just go door to door and tell people, ‘Slide us $100 now since your 16-year-old is going to end up paying us anyway when he starts driving.’ You can’t blame people for getting upset.”
In Texas, to my mind, we've already taken this strategy about as far as it can go, to the point that, right now, more than 10% of Texas adults have outstanding arrest warrants (http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2007/07/more-than-10-of-texans-currently-wanted.html) - mostly for traffic tickets.

Dallas County represents perhaps the most extreme example of this trend in Texas. According to the Dallas News ("Dallas county to vote on withholding vehicle registrations for those who owe fines (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/politics/local/stories/020909dnmetcountytickets.35b84f6c.html)," Feb. 9), "Unlike most counties, Dallas County gets slightly more than half of its annual revenue from fines and fees. Other counties rely more heavily on property-tax revenue."

Now Dallas plans to step up the pressure on even more on folks who can't or don't pay traffic fines, denying vehicle registration to drivers with outstanding traffic tickets. Again, we're talking about more than 10% of the adult population!

It seems almost unfathomable to me that a majority of county revenue would come from fines and fees. That's an untenable economic arrangement, but I suppose when more than 10% of adults owe fines, there's a deep well to draw from, though it's still crappy public policy.

This plan places revenue generation over public safety, boosting the number of unregistered vehicles on the road just to squeeze more cash out of drivers. Since many people don't pay mainly because traffic fines are so high and they can't afford it (http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2007/09/70-of-driver-responsibility-fines-go.html), there's little reason to believe everyone will automatically be able to come up with the money just because Dallas County won't register their vehicle.

More likely, more drivers will simply drive unregistered vehicles, which will cause them to accumulate more tickets they can't pay and creating a vicious cycle that makes the situation more chronic and intractable. And since Texas already holds up vehicle registration for drivers without auto insurance, the plan will almost certainly increase the number of uninsured drivers on the road. Just what we need, huh?

Texas cities have virtually no public transportation in most areas (Dallas' DART is well-used where it exists but extremely limited in scope), so essentially if you want to work you must own a car and drive. So people are going to continue to drive whether their vehicle is registered or not, because they have no other choice but unemployment and poverty.

According to my own quick, back of the envelope calculations, if 10% of Dallas drivers have outstanding traffic warrants, that's around 167,500 people. It's absurd to think a problem that large can be resolved by throwing scofflaws into the county jail or denying driving privileges to all of them. This plan seems like a terrible idea.

LnGrrrR
02-10-2009, 12:55 PM
I think that most traffic tickets are given for just this reason. I mean, heck, if I were a cop, I'd be a real dick and pull people over for going 2 mph above the limit. The idea that people are pulled over for the public's safety is laughable in most cases.

RandomGuy
02-10-2009, 02:24 PM
That sounds an awful lot like the city of Scherz.

I normally give the cops an even break, because they have a tough job, but the Scherz Police Department seems to me to be little more than a tax agency bent on collecting a de facto toll from drivers on I-35 and their own roads.

For that reason, I avoid spending any money in the little town at all. I would rather run out of gas, and walk to New Braunfels for gas than bother filling up there.

I hope that city dries up and blows away, taking their Police Tax Agency with it...

doobs
02-10-2009, 02:46 PM
That sounds an awful lot like the city of Scherz.

I normally give the cops an even break, because they have a tough job, but the Scherz Police Department seems to me to be little more than a tax agency bent on collecting a de facto toll from drivers on I-35 and their own roads.

For that reason, I avoid spending any money in the little town at all. I would rather run out of gas, and walk to New Braunfels for gas than bother filling up there.

I hope that city dries up and blows away, taking their Police Tax Agency with it...

Schertz cops are infamous. Universal City and Selma are not much better.

Blake
02-10-2009, 03:22 PM
pretty much any small town in or around S.A.

Alamo Heights, Castle Hills, Shavano Park......

I try to avoid them as much as possible because I'm afraid I might let my foot off the brake and do 10mph in an 8mph zone.

spurster
02-10-2009, 03:28 PM
Maybe some of you saw this story about a East Texas town.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Property_seizures_seen_as_piracy_.html

Property seizures seen as piracy

By Lisa Sandberg - Express-News

TENAHA — A two-decade-old state law that grants authorities the power to seize property used in crimes is wielded by some agencies against people who never are charged with - much less convicted of - criminal activity.

Law enforcement authorities in this East Texas town of 1,000 people seized property from at least 140 motorists between 2006 and 2008, and, to date, filed criminal charges against fewer than half, according to a review of court documents by the San Antonio Express-News.

Virtually anything of value was up for grabs: cash, cell phones, personal jewelry, a pair of sneakers, and often, the very car that was being driven through town.

Some affidavits filed by officers relied on the presence of seemingly innocuous property as the only evidence that a crime had occurred.

Linda Dorman, an Akron, Ohio, great-grandmother had $4,000 in cash taken from her by local authorities when she was stopped while driving through town after visiting Houston in April 2007. Court records make no mention that anything illegal was found in her van. She's still hoping for the return of what she calls "her life savings."

Dorman's attorney, David Guillory, calls the roadside stops and seizures in Tenaha "highway piracy," undertaken by a couple of law enforcement officers whose agencies get to keep most of what was seized.

Guillory is suing officials in Tenaha and Shelby County on behalf of Dorman and nine other clients whose property was confiscated. All were African-Americans driving either rentals or vehicles with out-of-state plates.

Guillory alleges in the lawsuit that while his clients were detained, they were presented with an ultimatum: waive your rights to your property in exchange for a promise to be released and not be criminally charged.

He said most did as Dorman did, signing the waiver to avoid jail.

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FreeMason
02-10-2009, 03:47 PM
That sounds an awful lot like the city of Scherz.

I normally give the cops an even break, because they have a tough job, but the Scherz Police Department seems to me to be little more than a tax agency bent on collecting a de facto toll from drivers on I-35 and their own roads.

For that reason, I avoid spending any money in the little town at all. I would rather run out of gas, and walk to New Braunfels for gas than bother filling up there.

I hope that city dries up and blows away, taking their Police Tax Agency with it...

Were you against Cali and other areas of the U.S. when they tried to boost gas tax and toll road taxes due to the increased number of hybrid pea poppers populating the streets?