Bowen possibly on the move, but would come back.

[bigdog]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-090210


More Transaction Shenanigans

John Hollinger, ESPN.com: Look for a few veterans to take a month-long siesta from their teams in a trade-and-waive scenario, much like Brent Barry did a year ago with San Antonio. High on the list of likely vacationers is another veteran Spur, Bruce Bowen. His deal for next season is only partly guaranteed, so San Antonio could include him in a trade with a team looking to dump salary. Then his new club could buy him out, pocket the cap savings and allow him to rejoin the Spurs.

[WalterBenitez]

If that works is ok, I'd like to keep Bruce

[FromWayDowntown]

I think it's safe to assume that Bowen's practically-expiring deal is among the Spurs more juicy assets. I think it's also pretty safe to assume that any team that would take Bowen's deal for the cap benefits wouldn't be looking to keep Bruce on the roster through the end of the regular season.

[SenorSpur]

Couple that with Horry's rights in a S&T scenario, and there's another juicy asset.

[EricB]

I would hope though that a team who would acquire him, wouldn't keep Bruce. He IMO is still VERY VERY key to this team winning number 5.

[ElNono]

I thought McDyess did the same thing this year...

[Dr. Gonzo]

I would hope though that a team who would acquire him, wouldn't keep Bruce. He IMO is still VERY VERY key to this team winning number 5.

Agreed.

[ploto]

Couple that with Horry's rights in a S&T scenario, and there's another juicy asset.

Not going to happen because Rob would actually have to report and practice and show an intent to play.

[ploto]

I would hope though that a team who would acquire him, wouldn't keep Bruce. He IMO is still VERY VERY key to this team winning number 5.

What if a team traded for him and then kept him on purpose to hurt the Spurs.

[SenorSpur]

Not going to happen because Rob would actually have to report and practice and show an intent to play.

If Horry can walk away with a substantial check for doing nothing, why wouldn't he? Keith Van Horn showed in Jersey last year, and took a physical, passed it and walked away with a few million bucks. I don't see why Horry wouldn't consider the prospect of some free $$$.

[Dr. Gonzo]

What if a team traded for him and then kept him on purpose to hurt the Spurs.

I would assume that they would have an under-the-table agreement about his release with any trading partner.

[bigdog]

Not going to happen because Rob would actually have to report and practice and show an intent to play.

Van Horn never had the intent of playing with New Jersey, and neither did Aaron McKie when he was shipped to Memphis in the Gasol deal.

[dbestpro]

Bowen 4 mil, Oberto 3.5 mil, Bonner 3 mil = 10.5 mil
means we can trade for anyone 12 mil or under. Horry sign and trade allows an up to the ante or a few more toss ins like Vaughn and Udoka. Teams are desperate to shed salary. It's a buyer's market.
Wallace, Carter, Kaman, Camby, Jamison, Miller, Wilcox, Collison, Villanueva, Chandler and even Amare are all obtainable.

[Buddy Holly]

Bowen, Horry, Udoka for Sheed.

They waive Bowen, we resign him.

[RiverwalkParade]

Bowen, Vaughn and Udoka for Salmons would work. I don't see a Gasol like trade out of this scenario, but salmons would be a good pick up

[Thomas82]

Bowen, Horry, Udoka for Sheed.

They waive Bowen, we resign him.

I wouldn't be mad if that happened.

[EricB]

What if a team traded for him and then kept him on purpose to hurt the Spurs.

What if you took the stick out of your ass and were actually a decent person?

Answers to questions we shall never know.

[EricB]

Bowen, Horry, Udoka for Sheed.

They waive Bowen, we resign him.


We demand one of the big three because were on the cusp of going all the way again - Piston fan and Joe Dumars

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What if a team traded for him and then kept him on purpose to hurt the Spurs.

The Spurs would make sure they had an agreement to buy Bowen out prior to the deal. The Spurs plan for everything when they make trades.

You'll never see a debacle like Kerr forgetting to make the 2010 pick given to OKC lottery protected occur with SA.

[phxspurfan]

If the Spurs pull this off again, my money is on the league to change this rule so players can't go back onto their same team a month later. Perhaps ever.

[EricB]

If the Spurs pull this off again, my money is on the league to change this rule so players can't go back onto their same team a month later. Perhaps ever.


No chance.

Players union wouldn't allow it.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Bowen, Horry, Udoka for Sheed.

They waive Bowen, we resign him.

There is no incentive for Detroit to do that since Sheed's contract is up at the end of the year anyway. They would want some value back. Bonner's stock may be up some now along with Splitter's rights and maybe our 2011 1st round pick plus whomever to fill in for salary purposes. I think the Spurs would want to include Bowen and Udoka instead of adding Horry and going over the luxury tax threshold. That would mean :lobt2:.

[JamStone]

We demand one of the big three because were on the cusp of going all the way again - Piston fan and Joe Dumars

"Joe Dumars is an idiot and will trade Rasheed to the Spurs for junk." -you

[HarlemHeat37]

I wouldn't accept any of these trades unless there's a guarantee that Bowen is back..we still need him for any title hopes..

[Trainwreck2100]

"Joe Dumars is an idiot and will trade Rasheed to the Spurs for junk." -you

Well he did trade Billups for AI and hire michael curry

[tp2021]

Well he did trade Billups for AI and hire michael curry

The talent differential between AI and Billups is minuscule compared to the talent canyon between Sheed and our tablescraps.

[JamStone]

Well he did trade Billups for AI and hire michael curry

So then it's guaranteed he'll trade Rasheed to the Spurs for Vaughn, Udoka, rights to Splitter, and Horry in a S&T. I guess we'll see it happening soon then.

[tp2021]

So then it's guaranteed he'll trade Rasheed to the Spurs for Vaughn, Udoka, rights to Splitter, and Horry in a S&T. I guess we'll see it happening soon then.

:hungry:

[Darkwaters]

Bowen, Horry, Udoka for Sheed.

They waive Bowen, we resign him.

That makes no sense. Sheed's deal expires next year anyways. Why would they trade him away to gather expiring deals when his deal is already expiring anyways.

[MoSpur]

I can see this going down.

[timvp]

Hollinger is right for once . . . . . .

[Stump]

I've heard about how they can take advantage of Horry, but how much can he even be signed for? A minimum contract? The rest of the MLE?

[tp2021]

timvp, maybe its just me, but you have been kinda mum in these trade threads. Usually, you voice your opinion clearly, either "It won't happen" or "I would like it to happen" but I haven't seen too much of that from you. Part of me is a bit suspicious...

[Tully365]

What if you took the stick out of your ass and were actually a decent person?

Answers to questions we shall never know.


:lol kettle, meet pot. Things like this do actually happen on occasion, so it's not unreasonable to ask that question.

[EricB]

:lol kettle, meet pot. Things like this do actually happen on occasion, so it's not unreasonable to ask that question.

Ah Tully, I repeat to you again, what I've said many times.

You don't know me one bit, so don't assume you do.

[wildbill2u]

Couple that with Horry's rights in a S&T scenario, and there's another juicy asset.

Imagine a juicy trade scenario using this couple of geezers. If they pull that off the Spurs will truly be masters of trading.

Then imagine throwing in Thomas and Finley in a four-player deal and by crikey, you've moved to the Trading Hall of FAme.

[Spurs Brazil]

Malik playing Bruce's minutes tonight :stirpot:

[Kori Ellis]

Malik playing Bruce's minutes tonight :stirpot:

I'm guessing there's a deal already done/almost done with Bruce in it. :wow Hopefully it's not a mistake to do without him for the 30 days til her gets waived and comes back.

[watertorture]

Ima, Bruce, Jacque, and Fab not showing up in the box score at http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AiLPT99kgYjR3YC_ooOp1MG8vLYF?gid=200 9021017

[xtremesteven33]

I'm guessing there's a deal already done/almost done with Bruce in it. :wow Hopefully it's not a mistake to do without him for the 30 days til her gets waived and comes back.



Yea thats what i was thinking when i saw Malik play and not Bruce.


hmmmm.....


interesting.....

[Spurs Brazil]

I'm guessing there's a deal already done/almost done with Bruce in it. :wow Hopefully it's not a mistake to do without him for the 30 days til her gets waived and comes back.

Same here. I still think Bruce is very important for us.

[HarlemHeat37]

I disagree..

Bowen hasn't checked into games in the 1st half this year a few times, it isn't surprising..

IMO, there's no chance Bowen is involved in a deal without us knowing he'll come back..he's going to retire a Spur..

[xtremesteven33]

I disagree..

Bowen hasn't checked into games in the 1st half this year a few times, it isn't surprising..



Yea but usually when a player gets hot, Pop doesnt hesitate to put Bruce on them to cool them down....

If Pop doesnt put Bowen on Vince in the second half if he gets hot YOU KNOW something is up...haha

[HarlemHeat37]

I'll agree with that..if Vince is playing well, and Bowen doesn't play in the 4th, then something is going on..

[exstatic]

How close are we to the tax? If it's close, then Bowen/Udoka for Joe Smith. It works almost to the dollar. If we have some room, then Bowen for Joe Smith. It would involve taking back more salary than we ship out on that one, but it works, too.

[Pero]

What if you took the stick out of your ass and were actually a decent person?

Answers to questions we shall never know.

You make it clear she's a more decent person than you. :rolleyes

[crc21209]

Hmmm If something is happening with Bruce I hope he comes back within those 30 days type of thing, Kori do you reallly think something is almost done?

[anjlbitz]

Come on Rasheed! lol

(dreaming isn't illegal lol)

[watertorture]

Bruce is playing now.

[ace3g]

lol, he checked into the game

[exstatic]

Come on Rasheed! lol

(dreaming isn't illegal lol)

lol-ing in each line of your
post is illegal.

[crc21209]

lol squash this thread for now haha. Bruce in on VC.

[anjlbitz]

Sorry. Too excited.

[HarlemHeat37]

there you go..

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=83~2792&teams=15~24&te=866:15-2178&cash=

[exstatic]

lol squash this thread for now haha. Bruce in on VC.

Uh, that just means it isn't tomorrow. Spurs rarely make the trade until the last day or two, which would be sometime next week.

lol haha :rolleyes

[Spurs Brazil]

That's why I'm afraid to lose Bruce for 30 days.

He killed Carter tonight.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm only willing to lose him for 30 if we get somebody worthwhile in return..not somebody like Brad Miller..

[loveforthegame]

I would not risk trading Bowen at all.

Some team like the Mavs or Lakers or Celtics would probably pick him up off waivers just to prevent him from returning to the Spurs.

[Kori Ellis]

That's why I'm afraid to lose Bruce for 30 days.

He killed Carter tonight.

True, his D was top notch. I hope they can find a way to make a deal without him in it.

[m33p0]

you guys seems to be forgetting something. a player has to be part of a roster by march 1 in order for said player to qualify for that team's playoff roster.

if bruce gets traded and bought out, spurs will need to wait for 30 days to resign him. by then, it will be too late to include him for the playoffs. so if pop has any intentions of having bruce part of the playoff roster, he will not be used in any trade scenarios.

[timvp]

you guys seems to be forgetting something. a player has to be part of a roster by march 1 in order for said player to qualify for that team's playoff roster.

if bruce gets traded and bought out, spurs will need to wait for 30 days to resign him. by then, it will be too late to include him for the playoffs. so if pop has any intentions of having bruce part of the playoff roster, he will not be used in any trade scenarios.
False.

The rule is a player can't be cut after March 1.

[m33p0]

False.

The rule is a player can't be cut after March 1.
is that so? hmmm... okies.

[Manufan909]

Hollinger is right for once . . . . . .

About what?:wow

[tp2021]

About what?:wow

Read before you post...

[Manufan909]

Read before you post...

Wow, you could've not been an asshole an just answered me.:(

[tp2021]

Wow, you could've not been an asshole an just answered me.:(

The answer you seek is pretty much the title of the thread. Bowen could be traded, waived, and re-signed by the Spurs.

[Manufan909]

The answer you seek is pretty much the title of the thread. Bowen could be traded, waived, and re-signed by the Spurs.

That's a given though, it's not like he predicted a trade and was right or something. That's why I missed it, i thought he'd said something substantial.

[tp2021]

It's "substantial" in that no one here has suggested it before AFAIK. It's not really a given, either.

[Thompson]

you guys seems to be forgetting something. a player has to be part of a roster by march 1 in order for said player to qualify for that team's playoff roster.

if bruce gets traded and bought out, spurs will need to wait for 30 days to resign him. by then, it will be too late to include him for the playoffs. so if pop has any intentions of having bruce part of the playoff roster, he will not be used in any trade scenarios.

I guess this kills the Spurs-Lakers "Barry was fouled" argument; he shouldn't have been playing in the first place. ;)

[Manufan909]

It's "substantial" in that no one here has suggested it before AFAIK. It's not really a given, either.

It really is a given, Pop could do this with any player he wouldn't worry about getting back, and Bowen is one to worry over, someone could screw the Spurs, and keep him for the duration of the season.

I guess it's perceptive he pointed it out, but not substantial.

Sorry 2021, but I refuse to give props to a guy that has hated on the Spurs for the first half of the season, and only this week has given them their due props.

[SenorSpur]

While I'm all for the Spurs utilizing Bruce in a trade scenario, with the conditional Brent Barry return option built in, remember that he is STILL the Spurs best perimeter defender. That said, I would be a tad bit concerned about the Spurs not having their "cooler" on the roster for 30 days.

It's no secret the Spurs are statistically not as stout defensively as in years past. Losing the ability to shutdown "hot shooting" perimeter players could compound the issue.

[Manufan909]

While I'm all for the Spurs utilizing Bruce in a trade scenario, with the conditional Brent Barry return option built in, remember that he is STILL the Spurs best perimeter defender. That said, I would be a tad bit concerned about the Spurs not having their "cooler" on the roster.

It's no secret the Spurs are statistically not as stout defensively as in years past. Losing the ability to shutdown "hot shooting" perimeter players could compound the issue.

If Pop is 110% sure Bowen will be back in 30 days, I can live with no Bowen, cuz Sheed/Miller/Camby/Kaman would more than make up for it. Joe Smith, not so much.

[The Truth #6]

I agree. If we can get a quality big in a trade that includes Bowen, then we have to do it. Outside of tonight's game we've been able to get by with minimal PT for Bruce. By resting for 30 days, arguably, he'll be even better for the playoffs where he can play 30+ minutes a game if needed.

I understand the argument that the games will get tougher as we near the end of the regular season but the team needs to be in the best shape possible when the playoffs start. If we lose a few more games as a consequence of acquiring a quality big, again, I think it's easily worth the risk.

Also, if this means more minutes for Malik then I see nothing wrong with that either. His brief but athletic contributions tonight were exactly what we've been needing.

[tp2021]

It really is a given, Pop could do this with any player he wouldn't worry about getting back, and Bowen is one to worry over, someone could screw the Spurs, and keep him for the duration of the season.

I guess it's perceptive he pointed it out, but not substantial.

Sorry 2021, but I refuse to give props to a guy that has hated on the Spurs for the first half of the season, and only this week has given them their due props.

I don't think you really know what's going on here, but its not hurting anyone. Carry on.

[SenorSpur]

I agree. If we can get a quality big in a trade that includes Bowen, then we have to do it. Outside of tonight's game we've been able to get by with minimal PT for Bruce. By resting for 30 days, arguably, he'll be even better for the playoffs where he can play 30+ minutes a game if needed.

I understand the argument that the games will get tougher as we near the end of the regular season but the team needs to be in the best shape possible when the playoffs start. If we lose a few more games as a consequence of acquiring a quality big, again, I think it's easily worth the risk.

Also, if this means more minutes for Malik then I see nothing wrong with that either. His brief but athletic contributions tonight were exactly what we've been needing.

Great point. I didn't think about that. Malik getting more minutes would be an unexpected "silver lining". His minimal contributions have been positive. I'd like to see him as part of the team for the duration of the season.

[Yorae]

No Bowen trade please!!!!:depressed

[m33p0]

I guess this kills the Spurs-Lakers "Barry was fouled" argument; he shouldn't have been playing in the first place. ;)
thank you for rubbing my shit on my face.:toast

[Manufan909]

I don't think you really know what's going on here, but its not hurting anyone. Carry on.

Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better.:wakeup

[outmap]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=83~2805~866~1717~2772&teams=18~18~18~24~24&te=&cash=

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=788~83~866&teams=24~25~25&te=&cash=

[tp2021]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=788~83~866&teams=24~25~25&te=&cash=
Most likely, this.

[EricB]

Now the Spurs can't do without Bowen for 30 days? :lol


Miss the game tonight didya?

[Yorae]

Damn....how about a vbookie whether the spurs will make a trade or not?

[EricB]

You gotta be fucking retarded if you can't miss a guy coming off the bench for 30 days. Take the silver and black shades off already. :lol

Answer the question.

[EricB]

Damn....how about a vbookie whether the spurs will make a trade or not?


If I was a bettin man I'd say they wont.

No ones out there for the taking that fits needs, ALA Kurt Thomas last year.

[EricB]

So he shut down VC in the 2nd half? Um ok, so? Around here people think Finely could do that.

Only in your mind maybe.

:lol

So he shut down vince Carter?

You mean the guy who kept the game close?


Step away from the computer, your too ESPN for this board.

[Manufan909]

So he shut down VC in the 2nd half? Um ok, so? Around here people think Finely could do that.

:wow You better be high/drunk, or you yourself, as you so eloquently put it, are "fucking retarded". No one here thinks Fin could stop Kidd, even if he was having an off game.:nope

[Tully365]

Ah Tully, I repeat to you again, what I've said many times.

You don't know me one bit, so don't assume you do.

:lol Ah, yes, T Park, just as you do not know the dozen or so posters that each day you insult and try to act superior to.

[Tully365]

:lobt2:
If I was a bettin man I'd say they wont.

No ones out there for the taking that fits needs, ALA Kurt Thomas last year.

So your assertion is that there is not a single player in the entire NBA that could be traded for who would help the Spurs? This is a ridiculous opinion... and you know it.

[rascal]

If I was a bettin man I'd say they wont.

No ones out there for the taking that fits needs, ALA Kurt Thomas last year.

R Wallace

[urunobili]

Bonner>Sheed

[rascal]

Now the Spurs can't do without Bowen for 30 days? :lol

Bowen is beginning to be phased out.

[de Soto]

Bowen's done. It is time for him to go for the betterment of the Spurs. Thanks for your past services, Bruce. It was real.

[galvatron3000]

Spurs could send Udoka and Bowen to the Kings for Salmons if they really want him and I'm sure the Kings will cut Bowen as he would probably resign with the Spurs. This is of course dependent upon what the Kings' want, expiring contracts, financial relief or young talent in return. It wouldnt solve the problem on the frontline for size but Salmons rebounds well and would address the need for a small forward.

[xtremesteven33]

Salmons taking Finleys minutes sounds great to me.

I hate to see Finley catch a ball, dribble it once, stop, look around, and let the defense swarm.

Salmons could pass up a shot and drive it in easy.

[HarlemHeat37]

Salmons wouldn't take Finley's minutes, Pop would somehow find ways to play Finley 25+ MPG..he'd probably give him Tim's minutes at C..

[koriwhat]

so EricB is TPark?

[CubanMustGo]

Bowen's done. It is time for him to go for the betterment of the Spurs. Thanks for your past services, Bruce. It was real.

Another idiot that didn't watch the game last night.

Past time for you to go for the betterment of ST.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

so EricB is TPark?

That's what I'm thinking.

[TheSpursFNRule]

What about David Lee? The Knicks are still trying to clean house, why haven't the spurs tried to pursue him? Or have they.....CIA Popovich could be at it again.

[TheSpursFNRule]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=83~2805~866~1717~2772&teams=18~18~18~24~24&te=&cash=

Yes this is what im talking about. David Lee is the fucking man.:toast

[TheSpursFNRule]

im bumping this

[Spursfan092120]

OK guys..what do you think of this one?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=883~1996~83~2805~866&teams=24~8~8~8~8&te=&cash= (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=883%7E1996%7E83%7E2805%7E866&teams=24%7E8%7E8%7E8%7E8&te=&cash=)

Bowen will be waived and brought back. Definitely a long shot, but it'd be nice. Maybe throw in a draft pick.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Bonner ain't going anywhere.

[Spursfan092120]

Bonner ain't going anywhere.

Probably not, but if it'll bring in Sheed, I'd be down for it...am I wrong?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Bonner has solidified his spot as a nearly-untouchable role player. Unless it's superstar talent, he's not going anywhere.

[TheSpursFNRule]

Bonner could be traid bait though. Or he could be going nowhere. Its obviously either or. I think its unfair to rule out the fact he could be traded though. Especially for fucking Sheed Wallace.

[exstatic]

What about David Lee? The Knicks are still trying to clean house, why haven't the spurs tried to pursue him? Or have they.....CIA Popovich could be at it again.


Yes this is what im talking about. David Lee is the fucking man.:toast


im bumping this

OK, you REALLY just need to rub one out while you're already gazing at his poster.

[TheSpursFNRule]

I wonder what took you longer coming up with 15,000 posts or coming up with these clever little cheapshots on newer board members. Your such a bitch and I hate you forever. Peace!

[exstatic]

I wonder what took you longer coming up with 15,000 posts or coming up with these clever little cheapshots on newer board members. Your such a bitch and I hate you forever. Peace!

You'll probably have 20,000 private messages before I hit 20,000 posts...and all to me.

I have a stalker.

[TheSpursFNRule]

Ok. Your still such a bitch.

[EricB]

ahhh 14 year old Spursreport posters.

Gotta love it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Definitely T Park.

[EricB]

Whos T Park?

[TheSpursFNRule]

ahhh 14 year old Spursreport posters.

Gotta love it.

Your more obnoxious than your signature. Every post I read by you is negative condescending garbage. Go play in a minefield.

[EricB]

Your more obnoxious than your signature. Every post I read by you is negative condescending garbage. Go play in a minefield.


Good lord, pot meet kettle...

[TheSpursFNRule]

Good lord, pot meet kettle...

suck 100 hundred asses.

[Buddy Holly]

Bonner has solidified his spot as a nearly-untouchable role player. Unless it's superstar talent, he's not going anywhere.

So Pop and RC have you in their fave 5?

[rayray2k8]

Stop with the Rasheed trade talks!! Jesus Christ..

[Buddy Holly]

Whos T Park?

A guy.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

So Pop and RC have you in their fave 5?

We have each other on Facebook.