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kace
02-11-2009, 06:40 PM
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2009/02/10/pop-might-have-a-point/


Tuesday, February 10th, 2009...7:05 am

Pop Might Have a Point

by Timothy Varner


By one measure, this Spurs team is the worst defensive unit of the Popovich era. The Spurs currently allow 104.7 points per 100 possessions (DRtg). Not counting 1996-97, a season shared with Bob Hill, this is how Pop’s defensive teams stack up:

Year DRtg Record Outcome

2003-4 94.1 57-25 (.695) Lost in WCS

1998-99
95.0
37-13 (.740)
Won Finals
2000-1 98.0 58-24 (.707) Lost WCF

1999-0 98.6 53-29 (.646) Lost First Round

2004-5
98.8
59-23 (.720)
Won Finals

1997-98 99.4 56-26 (.683) Lost WCS

2005-6 99.6 63-19 (.768) Lost WCS

2002-3
99.7
60-22 (.732)
Won Finals
2001-2 99.7 58-24 (.707) Lost WCS

2006-7
99.9
58-24 (.707)
Won Finals

2007-8 101.8 56-26 (.683) Lost WCF

2008-9 104.7 34-15 (.694) –

This chart is not intended to unlock the mysteries of the universe. Rather, it’s simply a demonstration that this year’s defensive performance is a statistical outlier in the alarming direction. The Spurs are allowing nearly 3 more points per 100 possessions than their next worst season–by said measure–of the Popovich era. (It would be interesting to re-crunch the DRtg numbers, minus the first dozen or so games of the year. The injury-riddled Spurs that began the season challenged to own John Hollinger’s defensive rating basement. They’ve improved dramatically since then–according to Hollinger they are now the 4th best defensive team in the league.) At first blush, these numbers corroborate Popovich’s oft repeated claim that the Spurs current squad just doesn’t measure up to past glories, but they’re not in a hopeless spot.

The Spurs possess the best interior defense in the league. This despite everyone’s contention that they need to add to their frontline–a notion to which I subscribe, for the record. Moreover, as is customary, the Spurs are doing a fine job of chasing teams off the 3 point line. Their area of apparent weakness, mid-range shots, is an area of defensive concession. That is, Pop will live with teams shooting and making jumpers, so long as his players due their best to contest the shots. But I’m sure he’d prefer not to rank last in the league in points allowed on 2pt attempts. Beyond these things, I’m certain Popovich is not proud that the field goal percentages allowed in these categories are, at best, middling: at .376, they are 23rd in the league on field percantage allowed on 3 pointers; the .421 they allow on 2 point shots is dead last; .565 on inside shots is good for 5th best overall.

Coach Pop likes to rale against his team’s defense, painting them as lackluster in comparison to past squads. I have a hard time disagreeing with him. This is not to say they are awful. Far from it. They’re a good defensive team with a few noticeable chinks in the armor. But they’re the sort of chinks that need to improve as part of the Spurs usual mid-season transformation.

The chart above demonstrated that the Spurs are giving up more points per 100 possessions than any other team in the Popovich era. But the league has changed during those years, having passed through the Mike D’Antoni Suns period, for example. Given this, let’s look at these numbers from a slightly different angle. Rather than merely listing a raw number, I was curious how the Spurs DRtg compared to the league relative to season. Not surprisingly, the Spurs current team is bucking against an otherwise healthy trend:

Year DRtg Rank

1997-8 2
1998-9 1
1999-0 2
2000-1 1
2001-2 2
2002-3 3
2003-4 1
2004-5 1
2005-6 1
2006-7 2
2007-8 3
2008-9 6


It’s the current fashion to engage in trade speculation, which is fine. Our readers know that I’m of the camp that would like to see the Spurs make a move. But setting aside all the puerile prattle that accompanies trade talk, it’s clear to me that the Spurs will need to improve their defense if they are to make another championship run. Curiously, trades can help as much as hurt in this regard. An upgrade of talent is always welcome, but team defense depends so heavily on understanding schemes that bringing in players who lack a knowledge of the system is difficult on a team.

Popovich has a handful of defensive indicators by which he likes to gauge the team. Some nights, he pushes them toward 4 22s. That is, to only allow 22 points per quarter. Put differently, if the Spurs keep their opponents to 88 points or less, he likes their chances of winning games. The most telling indicator, so far as he’s concerned, is field goal percentage defense. In a perfect world, opponent’s would never shoot better than .450 from the field. When the number creeps up higher than that, Popovich becomes uneasy. As the season grinds to a conclusion, these are the sort of numbers I’ll be watching when assessing their progress.

lefty
02-11-2009, 06:55 PM
SOmeone call Hollinger!

The writer is stupid:

- Manu, one of our top defenders, missed a lot of games

- Bowen hasn't logged in tons of minutes so far.

- G.Hill and Mason are good defensive additions

crc21209
02-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Thats only because he rated it by 100 possesions, plus Bruce not playing as much also affects the D, and our O has gotten better.

polandprzem
02-11-2009, 07:07 PM
You know what?

I was a fan of statistics. Not that they meant more then a game but I liked to look at them and aknowledge who is better scorer who is better rebounder etc.
But now all those stats are pissing me off. And o bring more madness people are invening new stats time after time. So called "advanced stats".

To me it's a totall bullshit right now.

I mean why they brought 100 possessions?
Why not 120?
If we have 48 minute game 24 shot clock

2880 seconds devide into 24 seconds you've got 120 possesssions


So why not 120?

It would be more accurate?

O maybe not since in a game nobody playes till the last second of action.


ehhh

All in all I'd rateher watcha games a measure teams on what I can see.

HarlemHeat37
02-11-2009, 07:07 PM
as I have said many times..

-Bowen not playing as many minutes is the biggest factor..
-Bowen's replacement is Michael Finley, who can't play effective D..
-Mason and Bonner are still adjusting to team D, particularly Mason..
-our interior D is NOT the problem, it's our perimeter D..

Bruce is 2nd on the team in defensive on court +/-, behind Kurt..

Nathan Explosion
02-11-2009, 07:54 PM
Forget the stats and just look at the games. You may not like what he's saying, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

The Spurs can bring the D now and again, but their defense isn't as good as it has been in years past. They don't seem to throw people out of whack for 48 minutes, and I've seen many players get off decent to good midrange jumpers off a screen.

This was almost never the case in the past few years.

It's not all gloom and doom, but I'd like to see this defense take it to another level or two before the playoffs.

TheDarkSide.
02-11-2009, 08:03 PM
Meh....aren't we like 16-0 or something in 100 point games. not a big believer in stats. at all.

Nathan Explosion
02-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Meh....aren't we like 16-0 or something in 100 point games. not a big believer in stats. at all.

In a thread about offense, that's a very good stat to quote. In a thread about defense though, it's actually worthless.

And actually, I think the Spurs have 32 in a row (going back to last season) when scoring 100 or more.

However, on defense, how are they doing? The best stat to tell is the FG% (which Pop likes to use). Not to mention, the Spurs haven't looked like the swarming, irratating, smothering defense of years past.

DeadlyDynasty
02-11-2009, 08:13 PM
The Spurs are definitely more fun to watch now