ESPN Radio Rumor: Rasheed for fab and finley (and others)

[SAntonio!]

Supposedly about to go down. Per espn radio.

Added by Kori:

I'm not sure why you all are reading the first post, then skipping to the end of the thread and ripping the original poster for making things up.

The original poster is only repeating what was said on Chris Duel's show on ESPN Radio. Duel had a source on his show on Thursday with connection to the Pistons who said that the Spurs were talking about a deal with the Pistons that involved Finley and Fab (PLUS MORE) for Rasheed. A third team or multiple other players from the Spurs would be involved.

So, please, stop jumping to the end of the thread and ripping the guy who started the thread. He's just the messenger repeating what was on local radio. As with all trade rumors, it's just a rumor for now.

[manufor3]

Too good to be true

[Kori Ellis]

They would need to trade more salary than Fab and Finley.

[DPG21920]

Supposedly about to go down. Per espn radio.

Liar. That does not even work salary wise.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Hopefully you're not bullshitting us.

[Dex]

Post Count: 39

This guy either just made, or broke, his ST reputation.

[AFBlue]

That's nowhere near enough salary to get Sheed..

Perhaps ESPN Radio should use ESPN.com's brand new trade machine!

[SAntonio!]

I didnt hear it personally but a buddy just called me and said a guy from detroit was on the air and said it was gonna happen.

[Spurminator]

weak.

[timvp]

I didnt hear it personally but a buddy just called me and said a guy from detroit was on the air and said it was gonna happen.

:rolleyes

[BlackSwordsMan]

bullshit

[manufor3]

I didnt hear it personally but a buddy just called me and said a guy from detroit was on the air and said it was gonna happen.

dear god yes

[AFBlue]

:lol

What is that like a fifth-hand account of the story?

[SAntonio!]

The guy from detroit said the trade is very close to goin down.

[EricB]

Yeah its a close personal friend of Chris Duel and Duel vouches for his credibility, but he said they are trying to work it out and those are two of the names involved and that they are close.

[DPG21920]

Yeah its a close personal friend of Chris Duel and Duel vouches for his credibility, but he said they are trying to work it out and those are two of the names involved and that they are close.

T park, are you shitting us?

[EricB]

This guy I think they said lives in Detroit and has VERY well placed sources.

We shall see.

[EricB]

T park, are you shitting us?

No I'm listening to the show right now, the guy lives or knows people in detroit that work for the Pistons and he said they tell him, a deal is close, and Oberto and Finley are involved.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

T park, are you shitting us?

So he is T Park?

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah its a close personal friend of Chris Duel and Duel vouches for his credibility, but he said they are trying to work it out and those are two of the names involved and that they are close.

Who's the Detroit guy? A reporter?

[DannyT]

Yeah its a close personal friend of Chris Duel and Duel vouches for his credibility, but he said they are trying to work it out and those are two of the names involved and that they are close.

the same Duel who said that Jason G was outta Dallas and headed to St Louis?:depressed

[timvp]

It was on Duel's show?

[EricB]

and its Eric, not T Park, T Park is dead :lol

[Kori Ellis]

No I'm listening to the show right now, the guy lives or knows people in detroit that work for the Pistons and he said they tell him, a deal is close, and Oberto and Finley are involved.

Thanks you answered my previous question before I asked.

[DannyT]

Breaking News CD and JM dont know shit

they are still bitching about the spurs sitting the big three

[dbreiden83080]

I didnt hear it personally but a buddy just called me and said a guy from detroit was on the air and said it was gonna happen.

Wow that's some first rate info there.. :rolleyes

[Spurminator]

Wait, EricB is T Park?

Why isn't there a thread about this??

[DPG21920]

This would be some epic stuff. I might cry.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I didnt hear it personally but a buddy just called me and said a guy from detroit was on the air and said it was gonna happen.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


I thought this was SpursTalk, apparently it's realgm.

[EricB]

Yes, Duel just had the guy on, and I couldn't hear if he was FROM Detroit or he lives there and has close sources IN Detroit with the Pistons, but he has sources inside the Pistons that say this deal is close. Duel mentioned other things this guy had first hand info on and was 100% right on it so we shall see. I'm just relaying what I've heard.

[Kori Ellis]

Wait, EricB is T Park?

Why isn't there a thread about this??

:lol

[vander]

what's in it for Detroit?

[Baseline]

The guy in Detroit...was he calling from a crack pipe or a phone?

Well, if it's true (and I pray that it is), I will be the happiest dude in the galaxy. We gain Sheed and lose Finley. I've done the math -- two positives equal a double positive.

[Kori Ellis]

Yes, Duel just had the guy on, and I couldn't hear if he was FROM Detroit or he lives there and has close sources IN Detroit with the Pistons, but he has sources inside the Pistons that say this deal is close. Duel mentioned other things this guy had first hand info on and was 100% right on it so we shall see. I'm just relaying what I've heard.

And they only said Finley and Fab? Did they reference that money doesn't much up (or logically - Detroit doesn't benefit)?

[EricB]

Breaking News CD and JM dont know shit

they are still bitching about the spurs sitting the big three


Lose the hate. Listen to the show instead of being like that.

[Bartleby]

Would Fin have to agree to the trade? (and if he did, does that mean he would come back like Barry did last year?)

[neboat]

that's way too good to be true......

[EricB]

And they only said Finley and Fab? Did they reference that money doesn't much up?


Yeah I messaged Minnix that and Minnix told me he knew, and told him that, but the guy said all I can tell you is those two are involved, and the trade is "close"

Again folks, I'm just relaying what I heard.

[BlackSwordsMan]

wow if true. I would be so fucking happy

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Would Fin have to agree to the trade? (and if so, does that mean he would come back like Barry did last year?)

That would most likely be the case, yes.

[DPG21920]

I don't see what is in it for Detroit. Maybe they know Sheed is not in their future and that he wants to go to the Spurs. So as long as they get to keep their cap space, then they will grant him his wish out of respect?

Too hard to believe though.

[timvp]

The Spurs have to throw in other players and some incentives. Fab and Fin aren't nearly enough.

It'd probably take something like Fab, Fin, Bowen, Horry and picks/Splitter/Mahinmi/cash for Wallace.

[Obstructed_View]

I found the person who broke the story at 31 Flavors:

http://www.80s.com/saveferris/images/class/simone2.jpg

[EricB]

Would Fin have to agree to the trade? (and if he did, does that mean he would come back like Barry did last year?)

He would, and I'd assume he would.

I'm thinking if the trade went down it would be

Finley Oberto Horry's carcas, and Bruce Bowen. thats close to matching salaries. a second rounder might get thrown in. I dunno.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah I messaged Minnix that and Minnix told me he knew, and told him that, but the guy said all I can tell you is those two are involved, and the trade is "close"

Again folks, I'm just relaying what I heard.

Yeah I just don't see why Detroit would even consider it. They aren't even getting expiring contracts. There would have to be a lot more to it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

God these radio rumors are hilarious sometimes. Terry Porter's firing was supposed be announced a half hour ago according to KTAR, hopefully for the Spurs the story a radio station fabricated about them turns out to be true.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'd love to see it happen. Seeing as the numbers don't add up I'd have to file it under the 'unsubstantiated rumor' category at this point.

[DPG21920]

The Spurs have to throw in other players and some incentives. Fab and Fin aren't nearly enough.

It'd probably take something like Fab, Fin, Bowen, Horry and picks/Splitter/Mahinmi/cash for Wallace.

The Spurs would only need to make up 5 million if it was just Fab and Fin IIRC. If they can sign Horry then ????

[EricB]

The Spurs have to throw in other players and some incentives. Fab and Fin aren't nearly enough.

It'd probably take something like Fab, Fin, Bowen, Horry and picks/Splitter/Mahinmi/cash for Wallace.


Yeah thats what I thought as well, those four, money, and Mahinmi a young athletic big with promise who Detroit might like, and money.

He then said something stupid like "the Spurs are trying to get Detroit to eat some of the salary, wich we know cant happen.

[EricB]

Yeah I just don't see why Detroit would even consider it. They aren't even getting expiring contracts. There would have to be a lot more to it.


Yeah agreed, thats what I messaged Minnix again, and, i have to leave it at that.

[DPG21920]

Yeah I just don't see why Detroit would even consider it. They aren't even getting expiring contracts. There would have to be a lot more to it.

ZJ's for everyone in Detroit possibly?

[timvp]

Bowen would come back if traded. Same probably the case with Finley. Not sure about Oberto but he could very well be on the "trade, waive and re-sign" bandwagon.

[td4mvp21]

If this happens I'm going to flip out (with happiness). Hopefully Bowen won't be in there though...

[EricB]

Wait, EricB is T Park?

Why isn't there a thread about this??


Because I didn't think it was news, and the name T Park came with too much of a dark cloud I created, so I did my real name so that I can try and have a better reputation.

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs have to throw in other players and some incentives. Fab and Fin aren't nearly enough.

It'd probably take something like Fab, Fin, Bowen, Horry and picks/Splitter/Mahinmi/cash for Wallace.

Yeah that's probably getting closer. I still think Detroit is looking for something better than that.

[Manu20]

I don't see what is in it for Detroit. Maybe they know Sheed is not in their future and that he wants to go to the Spurs. So as long as they get to keep their cap space, then they will grant him his wish out of respect?

Too hard to believe though.

When the Spurs win the championship in June they would share the :lobt: with Detroit.:hat

[Kori Ellis]

Hopefully Bowen won't be in there though...

Exactly.

[EricB]

If this happens I'm going to flip out (with happiness). Hopefully Bowen won't be in there though...


He would have to be to make the money work.

[Kori Ellis]

He would have to be to make the money work.

No, he wouldn't necessarily. There's some other pieces that make it work.

[DPG21920]

How much can we sign Horry for?

[td4mvp21]

He would have to be to make the money work.

Well that's a bummer.

Question: Can't teams pick him up off of waivers after 30 days? Why wouldn't some team do that to fuck us over if true?

I just don't want to go without Bowen even for 30 days. Even used sparingly he impacts our defense.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Until Stephen A smith breaks this story. I refuse to believe it.

[EricB]

Again guys, I don't know this person who started this from a hole in the wall.

Chris Duel to me isn't a liar, and he vouched for this guy pretty hardcore, so thats the only reason I'm intrigued.

[Bartleby]

I still think Detroit is looking for something better than that.

I do, too, but maybe they just aren't hearing any really attractive offers for what is basically half a season of Sheed.

[Manufan909]

So he is T Park?

Why'd he change names, he get banned???:wow:wow:wow

And I'm assuming that they will drop Fin so Pop can sign him back. Such a better idea than Bruce leaving. Him and Hairston can divvy up Fin's minutes. And when he gets back, he'll be the backup 3. Like it always shoudl've been.

[EricB]

No, he wouldn't necessarily. There's some other pieces that make it work.


Udoka could be substituted?

I just don't see a deal being made without Bowen involved..

[peacemaker885]

Timvp, Kori - looks like a surge in traffic...site is a tad sluggish.

[EricB]

Why'd he change names, he get banned???:wow:wow:wow

And I'm assuming that they will drop Fin so Pop can sign him back. Such a better idea than Bruce leaving. Him and Hairston can divvy up Fin's minutes. And when he gets back, he'll be the backup 3. Like it always shoudl've been.


I changed the name on my own accord.

[Kori Ellis]

Horry for $5M, plus Finley, Fab, Vaughn, picks, cash, Splitter/Mahinmi works without Bowen.

[coyotes_geek]

How much can we sign Horry for?

The max. But anything over $4.3 makes him BYC.

[Kori Ellis]

Timvp, Kori - looks like a surge in traffic...site is a tad sluggish.

Working lightening fast for me.

[timvp]

The tough part is that Detroit can't take back more than one extra player. So that narrows the possible trade to . . .

Bowen, Fin, Fab and Horry for Wallace, Acker and Sharpe.

The everyone gets waived but Wallace. Bowen, Fin and Fab eventually return. Pistons can take back Acker and Sharpe if they want them. Horry can retire with more money.

That said, for the Pistons to go through all that trouble, they'd have to be getting something pretty good. A couple of picks? Splitter? Mahinmi?

[DPG21920]

The max. But anything over $4.3 makes him BYC.

So then if Fab + Fin = 5M short, we can sign Horry for 4M and throw in Ian and have salary matched deal.

[EricB]

His friend is a real estate investor, who has a Very very connected source, that says, the Spurs and Pistons are working on a deal involving rasheed Wallace, Michael Finely and Fabricio Oberto

[5in10]

Its true i heard it too. They said they still had figure out what other players to throw in to make the salaries match though.

[ManuTP9]

i hope this is true

[DPG21920]

Holy Sh**

[pad300]

Yeah thats what I thought as well, those four, money, and Mahinmi a young athletic big with promise who Detroit might like, and money.

He then said something stupid like "the Spurs are trying to get Detroit to eat some of the salary, wich we know cant happen.

Rasheed for Finley, Bowen, Oberto and Mahinmi doesn't quite work out CBA wise.

1) Rasheed for Finley, Bowen, Oberto, and Udoka does.

2) Rasheed for Finley, Bowen, OBerto, and Hill does.

3) Rasheed for Finley, Bowen, OBerto, and Vaughn does.

The big question in my mind is would Detroit buyout Bowen? If he comes back, I definetly do 1) & 3) even assuming something like splitter's rights are included...

As for why Det does this, currently they are slightly above Lux tax at a payroll of $71,795,804. This would save them enough salary that they would be recieving a lux tax payout, rather than paying in (~ 5 million net gain, counting them paying ~2 million in tax, and a payout of ~ 3 million).

[coyotes_geek]

So then if Fab + Fin = 5M short, we can sign Horry for 4M and throw in Ian and have salary matched deal.

Yes, but like Timvp just pointed out that makes Detroit have to start cutting a bunch of people to clear room for all those guys. Something they probably won't want to do.

[EricB]

The tough part is that Detroit can't take back more than one extra player. So that narrows the possible trade to . . .

Bowen, Fin, Fab and Horry for Wallace, Acker and Sharpe.

The everyone gets waived but Wallace. Bowen, Fin and Fab eventually return. Pistons can take back Acker and Sharpe if they want them. Horry can retire with more money.

That said, for the Pistons to go through all that trouble, they'd have to be getting something pretty good. A couple of picks? Splitter? Mahinmi?

Picks, Mahinmi, AND Splitter? Plus the above maybe?


I just don't see it, for all the rumors about them sending Wallace for Stoudamire.

[completely deck]

You guys better not be messing with my emotions.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8696/excitedwh5.gif

[ManuTP9]

Sheed=:lobt2:

[Manufan909]

I changed the name on my own accord.

My bad, I didn't read the 2nd or 3rd page before I posted that.

And timvp, i don't think Fab would come back. Sheed, Bonner, Tim, and KT should be enough bigs. And Pops/Ian are still vague possibilities.

Wouldn't Ime be in this, since he is expiring?

[50 cent]

Geez, this would be fantastic, but I think it's definitely too good to be true.

[stxspurs]

i would hate to give up splitter or mahinimi.....never know what we have until we give it to houston and that player becomes a legit player and if we would have paid we wouldnt be in this situation we are in now!!!!

[Bartleby]

Picks, Mahinmi, AND Splitter? Plus the above maybe?


I just don't see it, for all the rumors about them sending Wallace for Stoudamire.

Amare will probably go to Chicago or Miami.

[BlackSwordsMan]

lakers will get sheed for morison
watch

[Chomag]

If this isnt true I'm gonna hurt you!

HEHE..Not realy but this would suck if it's not true.

[galvatron3000]

unless the Suns are involved too with Amare

[Kori Ellis]

Rasheed, Acker and Sharpe for Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Mahinmi and Horry at 4.2 M works.

[Ditty]

i hope tehy buy out finley and he comes back i love finley even if hes playing bad lately i would love him to come back the same for fab hes a good guy

so that means no bonner or even udoku who i want to give up or even vaighn i actually hope that splitter is the one whos rights get traden

[tp2021]

Say it's so, Joe!

[Thompson]

While it would be great to get Wallace, I hope we don't give up too much, considering the luxury tax benefit for Detroit is at least a partial incentive. I really would hate to lose any of our young prospects (Splitter, Mahinmi, or Hill). We better not lose more than one of them (if that) for a 5 month rental of Wallace.

[coyotes_geek]

Finley needs to give consent to a deal. His situation is similar, but slightly more complicated, to Devean George's last year when the mavs tried to trade him in the Kidd deal.

[MarHill]

Racheed, Acker and Sharpe for Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Mahinmi and Horry at 4.2 M works.

Kori, I know that you and Timvp are connected to the Spurs.

But I would be shocked if they can pull this trade off!!!

[Kori Ellis]

Rasheed, Acker and Sharpe for Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Mahinmi and Horry at 4.2 M works.

That's ideal because we don't get rid of Bowen, we get rid of china doll Mahinmi and Vaughn, who you all can't stand :lol

[Chomag]

i hope tehy buy out finley and he comes back i love finley even if hes playing bad lately i would love him to come back the same for fab hes a good guy

so that means no bonner or even udoku who i want to give up or even vaighn i actually hope that splitter is the one whos rights get traden

IT wouldn't be necessary to have Finaly at that point because Sheed would give us the 3 ball along with the defencive big body

[DPG21920]

Splitter imo, is more than expendable.

[stxspurs]

Rasheed, Acker and Sharpe for Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Mahinmi and Horry at 4.2 M works.

i like this one better!! call them kori!

[EricB]

Rasheed, Acker and Sharpe for Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Mahinmi and Horry at 4.2 M works.

Write it up!!! :lol

Wow, if the Spurs could pull THAT off. WOW!!!!

[Ditty]

give up spliiter not mihimmi

splinter wont be coming anytime soon

[Kori Ellis]

Splitter imo, is more than expendable.

Oh I think Splitter and cash would be thrown in too.

[gameFACE]

I'd love to see Sheed on the Spurs even though he's a really strange dude.

The Lakers pulled off a ridiculous trade for Gasol Last year. No reason the Spurs can't pull off a trade for him this year.

[EricB]

That's ideal because we don't get rid of Bowen, we get rid of china doll Mahinmi and Vaughn, who you all can't stand :lol

Yeah I have no problem shipping out Mahinmi, and I see them cutting Vaughn and the Spurs picking him back up.

[DesignatedT]

we need updates!!!!

[vander]

It really wouldn't be too had to match the salaries

KT fabs and Bowen For Sheed and Sharp would work salary-wise

but detroit isn't getting close to fair value in return

[stxspurs]

Write it up!!! :lol

Wow, if the Spurs could pull THAT off. WOW!!!!

this could be our gasol trade!

[galvatron3000]

give up spliiter not mihimmi

splinter wont be coming anytime soon


agreed

[Chomag]

I'd love to see Sheed on the Spurs even though he's a really strange dude

HAHA True but it never hurts to have at least one crazy person on your team I dont think. :lol

[EricB]

:lol

Nothing to update, the guy called in and was just reporting what he had heard from really good sources.

I doubt it happens, but Duel made it sound pretty damn legit.

[ManuTP9]

this could be our gasol trade!

lulz

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'd love to see this just cause big trades are always cool, but I doubt there's any merit to it based on a real estate investor and a dude from Detroit and their VERY reliable "inside source".


I've never seen a trade someone's "reliable inside source" told them about that turned out true.

[timvp]

The salary aspect of this trade is workable. The trick will be the roster spots. Dumars will have to be willing to throw away at least two of his scrubs (Acker, Sharpe, Bynum and Herrmann [probably wouldn't work because he makes too much]).

[Kori Ellis]

If you guys want to see what could work, just use ESPN.com's trade machine, you can pretend Kurt Thomas' salary is Horry (because it's 4.2M).

[EricB]

The salary aspect of this trade is workable. The trick will be the roster spots. Dumars will have to be willing to throw away at least two of his scrubs (Acker, Sharpe, Bynum and Herrmann [probably wouldn't work because he makes too much]).

Damn Herrmann would be a nice energy big off the bench, but I doubt they give up all THAt.

[EricB]

I'd love to see this just cause big trades are always cool, but I doubt there's any merit to it based on a real estate investor and a dude from Detroit and their VERY reliable "inside source".


I've never seen a trade someone's "reliable inside source" told them about that turned out true.

While I agree, Chris Duel whos a radio personality here, listed alot of prior "scoops" and inside info this guy had given him that 100% legit and he was right supposedly on all of em.

We shall see.

[sook]

ROFL!! what a fucking liar

[djohn2oo8]

Spurs don't need to make a trade, especially for Sheed the technical machine

[Galileo]

What does 'Sheed make and how many years left on his contract?

[DPG21920]

We need some dramatic theme music in here.

[EricB]

Spurs don't need to make a trade, especially for Sheed the technical machine

If the Spurs got Rasheed Wallace, health pending, just put their name on the damn trophy.

[td4mvp21]

What does 'Sheed make and how many years left on his contract?

Don't know, but it expires after this season.

[EricB]

What does 'Sheed make and how many years left on his contract?

Last year of his contract I believe, and he makes 13 million.

[DPG21920]

What does 'Sheed make and how many years left on his contract?

He makes 13 million and he is done after this season.

[Leetonidas]

What does 'Sheed make and how many years left on his contract?

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 13.4 mil I think and he is an expiring contract.

[DPG21920]

Last year of his contract I believe, and he makes 13 million.

jinx

[galvatron3000]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cec8lh

[timvp]

Bowen, Fin, Fab and Horry for Wallace, Herrmann and Sharpe would work. Saves Detroit at least $2M. Potentially much more adding in the fact that they'd get under the lux tax threshold ... plus they could buyout Bowen, Fin and Fab for less than what they are owed.

Still a pipe dream at this point but interesting . . .

[johnnyblues]

HAHA True but it never hurts to have at least one crazy person on your team I dont think. :lol


Well, we did have Rodman at one point in time, didn't we?:hat

[SouthTexasRancher]

Supposedly about to go down. Per espn radio.

Throw that damn, worthless Ime Udoka in on the deal. Even throw in Ian Mihimi in if needed since he'll never play a full game in the NBA anyway.

Tim will make sure Sheed understands what the Spurs are all about. Sheed will become a team player again like he was when Detroit won the NBA Championship in 2004.

Then you could pick 3 or 4 of us off these message boards and we'll play for the league minimum plus all the beer we can drink, as bench warmers. Playoffs are mainly about an 8 man rotation anyway.

Pop & RC go for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[EricB]

jinx


you owe me a coke bitch JK :lol :)

[Thompson]

Spurs don't need to make a trade, especially for Sheed the technical machine

Terror washes over non-Spurs' fans.

[SAntonio!]

According to the guy from Detroit a third team will have to be involved to make this thing work. I deserve a couple apologies.

[Ditty]

could we possible get kwame brown also?

[ElNono]

We can also consider a third team being involved. They might have what Detroit wants, and be able to absorb more players, but need a third team to make it work...
More details would be nice...

[djohn2oo8]

Sheed would ruin team chemistry. Spurs are good without him.

[ManuTP9]

According to the guy from Detroit a third team will have to be involved to make this thing work. I deserve a couple apologies.

fuck :lol

[EricB]

According to the guy from Detroit a third team will have to be involved to make this thing work. I deserve a couple apologies.


I didn't hear him say that....

[DrHouse]

Maybe I haven't seen enough Piston games this season but all I see Wallace do is hoist 3's nowadays. He doesn't even make an attempt to post up.

[Sec24Row7]

I am going to go out and get drunk if this is true...


and if its not :(

[DPG21920]

Hopefully that third team is the Thunder!

[EricB]

Maybe I haven't seen enough Piston games this season but all I see Wallace do is hoist 3's nowadays. He doesn't even make an attempt to post up.


Works perfectly in the Spurs offense then.

He would post up if the primary offensive big.

Thats whats great about Wallace, very versatile.

[coyotes_geek]

Rasheed, Acker and Sharpe for Finley, Oberto, Vaughn, Mahinmi and Horry at 4.2 M works.

Looks like this deal would put the Spurs over the lux tax and the Pistons under it.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

I can not believe this tread is 6 pages. No way it is happening Dumars has said point blank the only way he trades an expiring deal would be to bring back an all star. Unless Duncan is in the deal it's not going down. No one IO mean no one in Detroit is talking about this deal.

[EricB]

I can not believe this tread is 6 pages. No way it is happening Dumars has said point blank the only way he trades an expiring deal would be to bring back an all star. Unless Duncan is in the deal it's not going down. No one IO mean no one in Detroit is talking about this deal.


Calm down.

[FreeMason]

haha that made me feel so good for about 5 seconds. thx

[K-State Spur]

Sheed would ruin team chemistry. Spurs are good without him.

I'll believe this even has a chance when I see it.

But...

By most reports, Sheed's teammates love him. So I don't think he would destroy the locker room.

He does give away a free point about every third game and he would clash with Pop's philosophy of never allowing the refereeing to be an excuse for a loss (not that our guys don't whine too much already - although it hasn't been nearly as bad over the past couple years).

But none of that is anything that the best post defense alongside Tim Duncan since the 2001 version of the admiral couldn't fix.

[EricB]

haha that made me feel so good for about 5 seconds. thx


While I don't think it will happen, theres alot of smoke there IMO from certain people.

[IronMexican]

Wait, EricB is T Park?

Why isn't there a thread about this??

You guys couldn't tell by the way he posted?

[ElNono]

I can not believe this tread is 6 pages. No way it is happening Dumars has said point blank the only way he trades an expiring deal would be to bring back an all star. Unless Duncan is in the deal it's not going down. No one IO mean no one in Detroit is talking about this deal.

If a third team is involved, they might be getting one... again, details are scarce...

[PeterBurns]

Ahh....relax peeps.
I'm headed to Phoenix right now. I'll ask Rasheed tonight at the EA Party

[The Truth #6]

If Sheed's contract is about to expire, then why would Dumar's trade for other expiring contracts? I understand getting under the threshold, but he couldn't get some draft picks out of this sort of trade? I can't imagine this happening without them getting one of: Mason, Hill, or Ian.

Pop and Sheed seem to get along well, at least as evidenced by their pre/post game banter, so I don't see this being a big issue as far as character.

[Chomag]

Maybe I haven't seen enough Piston games this season but all I see Wallace do is hoist 3's nowadays. He doesn't even make an attempt to post up.

Thats pretty much we need from the other big which we do have now with Bonner. The surs do not realy need a scorer but a defender the shooting from sheed would be all bonus. Someone to stretch the floor Timmy can handle the post :toast

[z0sa]

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Mason Jr
Tim Duncan
Rasheed Wallace

then get bowen and finley back?

:lobt2:

[Ditty]

I can not believe this tread is 6 pages. No way it is happening Dumars has said point blank the only way he trades an expiring deal would be to bring back an all star. Unless Duncan is in the deal it's not going down. No one IO mean no one in Detroit is talking about this deal.

its okay would yall rather have him walk at the end of the year with nothing or have something at the end of this year thats how detroit is looking at it theres no way yall could beat boston,cleavland or orlando even if yall ahd billups look towards the future 50 cent i mean rodney stucky haha is a pretty damn good player

[FreeMason]

Sheed is proven goodness.

It would take a real assclown to get anywhere close to even scratching away at the Pop Duncan team chemistry fortress.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I can not believe this tread is 6 pages. No way it is happening Dumars has said point blank the only way he trades an expiring deal would be to bring back an all star. Unless Duncan is in the deal it's not going down. No one IO mean no one in Detroit is talking about this deal.

Shhhhhhhh...Don't let reality get into this thread

[Spursfan092120]

I can not believe this tread is 6 pages. No way it is happening Dumars has said point blank the only way he trades an expiring deal would be to bring back an all star. Unless Duncan is in the deal it's not going down. No one IO mean no one in Detroit is talking about this deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it an ESPN radio station in Detroit that broke the news?

[Sec24Row7]

Thats pretty much we need from the other big which we do have now with Bonner. The surs do not realy need a scorer but a defender the shooting from sheed would be all bonus. Someone to stretch the floor Timmy can handle the post :toast

He is jacking up 3's because there is no reason for him to work hard because he has no chance of winning anything with Detroit... and Iverson has never fed the post in his life....

All iverson does is drive until he gets into trouble then kicks the ball to a wing...

[DPG21920]

Just saw: 5 million people viewing this thread :wow

[SAntonio!]

I didn't hear him say that....

Like i said before i didnt hear the interview but i just spoke to my friend again and the guy from detroit did say that to make this trade go down a third team is gonna have to be involved. I wouldnt just make this shit up.

[ElNono]

I just can't wait for the upcoming threads bitching how Holt didn't want to spend more when this trade is declared on 'stand-by'. (It probably wasn't real to begin with, but whoever announced it don't want to look like a fool).

[gameFACE]

Pop and Sheed seem to get along well, at least as evidenced by their pre/post game banter, so I don't see this being a big issue as far as character.

There have been worse head cases on the Spurs. Plus, we might get to see him dance during pre-game warm up!

His high arc jumper would be tough for LA to defend.

[EricB]

Shhhhhhhh...Don't let reality get into this thread


Awww u mad?

[picnroll]

Wouldn't signing Horry for $4+ million put the Spurs in ux tax?

[DPG21920]

The double edged sword with the Pistons wanting a superstar in return for sheed is that the other team would want someone (stuckey) to go along with Sheed because he would be a rental. Unless it is a pure salary dump.

[EricB]

Ahh....relax peeps.
I'm headed to Phoenix right now. I'll ask Rasheed tonight at the EA Party

:lol

Name dropper.

[Baseline]

Dr. House, are you scared now, or simply terrified?

Iloved your lame comment about Sheed only hoisting threes these days. You forgot the fact that he makes threes, not just shoots them. And in the playoffs he would shut down Gasol to the point of tears. Sheed defends Tim Duncan as well as anybody in this league ever has. And this just in...Gasol is no Tim Duncan. Nor is Bynum, if you can ever get his "loose" knees to function correctly. Is that what the doctors called them, "loose"?

With Sheed, you LA punks wouldn't get within 15 points of us in any game, anywhere.

We'll wave to you from the Riverwalk in June, Dr. House.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Awww u mad?

no. i feel sorry for attention whores ike you.

[EricB]

no. i feel sorry for attention whores ike you.

:lol

Ok whatever.

[galvatron3000]

no one is giing up a superstar for Sheed, Sheed is free after this season is over, he is also not a older and his window is closing so Detroit is bluffing on that part but I bet they'd take some draft picks and expiring contracts.

[picnroll]

Sheed and a healthy Manu would put the Lakers in the rear view mirror.

[stxspurs]

Ahh....relax peeps.
I'm headed to Phoenix right now. I'll ask Rasheed tonight at the EA Party

i hate u petey!!!!!!
:toast

[George Gervin's Afro]

:lol

Ok whatever.

I like sheed as much as anyone but for people to buy into this as much as they have is bit ridiculous. Hey I hope I'm wrong.

[DPG21920]

:lol

Ok whatever.

Tpark is a whore:toast, but he is just the messenger. He is not saying it is 100%, just saying what he heard.

[td4mvp21]

Dr. House, are you scared now, or simply terrified?

Iloved your lame comment about Sheed only hoisting threes these days. You forgot the fact that he makes threes, not just shoots them. And in the playoffs he would shut down Gasol to the point of tears. Sheed defends Tim Duncan as well as anybody in this league ever has. And this just in...Gasol is no Tim Duncan. Nor is Bynum, if you can ever get his "loose" knees to function correctly. Is that what the doctors called them, "loose"?

With Sheed, you LA punks wouldn't get within 15 points of us in any game, anywhere.

We'll wave to you from the Riverwalk in June, Dr. House.

Uhhh this is just a RUMOR from an unproven source?

[EricB]

I like sheed as much as anyone but for people to buy into this as much as they have is bit ridiculous. Hey I hope I'm wrong.


I was first to say that I didn't totally buy into it, but the people reporting aren't liars and I don't see them drumming up ratings for no reason.

[EricB]

Tpark is a whore:toast, but he is just the messenger. He is not saying it is 100%, just saying what he heard.

I'm not a whore... :(

[gameFACE]

13.7ppg and 7.6rpg at 34 going on 35 is not a superstar. Pretty damn nice player - YES!

[Chomag]

Or we could be getting the usual treatment... Teams and players allways using the Spurs to spark intrest from other teams for more money or better players.

I still have my fingers crossed on this though. I have not been a Sheed fan threw all the years, but I do know his talents, and he has everything that the Spurs need.

[EricB]

Uhhh this is just a RUMOR from an unproven source?

Rumor but the source is apparently very proven.

[PeterBurns]

David Robinson on my flight, he's at the gate. I'll try to ask him
Guess I picked the wrong day to wear my "I LOVE MILFS" shirt

[EricB]

David Robinson on my flight, he's at the gate. I'll try to ask him
Guess I picked the wrong day to wear my "I LOVE MILFS" shirt

:lmao

Spray on the sexy panther like I told you and your in!

[td4mvp21]

Rumor but the source is apparently very proven.

Well the original poster is what I was referring to but, I was just trying to make a point :lol

[EricB]

Well the original poster is what I was referring to but, I was just trying to make a point :lol


Ahhh awesome.

[DPG21920]

David Robinson on my flight, he's at the gate. I'll try to ask him
Guess I picked the wrong day to wear my "I LOVE MILFS" shirt

Tell me how my God tastes.

[Spurs Brazil]

Please make it happen

[PeterBurns]

Jeff McDonald of Express-News is here at airport. Did not know of anything yet either, but he said he just got off plane as well. Boarding now. Later peeps

[ManuTP9]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2166~1727~3187~1724~3235~883~8 3~242~846~866~874~3233&teams=8~8~24~21~21~24~8~21~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

i just tried out the three team trade for sheed and heres what i got except replace KT for horry.

[DPG21920]

Why do people have to be such buzz kills on here? The bash threads they do not like, talk shit all the time and don't do anything generally positive. If you don't like a thread, do not post in it.

But why dog people who enjoy talking about it, even if it is not 100%?

[Chomag]

Jeff McDonald of Express-News is here at airport. Did not know of anything yet either, but he said he just got off plane as well. Boarding now. Later peeps

Cool, thanks for looking into this. Have a safe flight guys!

[galvatron3000]

why do people have to be such buzz kills on here? The bash threads they do not like, talk shit all the time and don't do anything generally positive. If you don't like a thread, do not post in it.

But why dog people who enjoy talking about it, even if it is not 100%?

word

[Spursfan092120]

Why do people have to be such buzz kills on here? The bash threads they do not like, talk shit all the time and don't do anything generally positive. If you don't like a thread, do not post in it.

But why dog people who enjoy talking about it, even if it is not 100%?

Thank you...exactly what I was thinking. A few people got on me for telling them to stand by their team and they said they had every right to freak out..they were fanatics, but when there's something to be fanatical about, they try to be buzzkills..crazy. I still love you guys though. :toast

[Chomag]

Why do people have to be such buzz kills on here? The bash threads they do not like, talk shit all the time and don't do anything generally positive. If you don't like a thread, do not post in it.

But why dog people who enjoy talking about it, even if it is not 100%?

Because it's so easy to be a tough guy behind a computer.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs have to throw in other players and some incentives. Fab and Fin aren't nearly enough.

It'd probably take something like Fab, Fin, Bowen, Horry and picks/Splitter/Mahinmi/cash for Wallace.

Yeah, Rasheed is making $13.68 million this season. Spurs would have to send out 85% - $100,000 of that to get him, so we're looking at $11.52 million.

Oberto = $3.5 M
Finley = $2.5 M

Rob was signed to about $3.1M last year, so the Spurs could sign him to about $3.25M or so max (105% of last year's deal).

So far that brings the total the Spurs would have to make up to $2.27 million. That means one of these cases:

1) trade Bowen
2) trade Bonner
3) trade Vaughn + one of Udoka, Mahinmi, and Hill


I'd love to have Rasheed, but no way I'm moving Bowen or Hill, and Bonner won't be moved with the way he's shooting. Aside from the near-impossibility of this deal from the Spurs side, what is Detroit getting out of it? The only explanation is maybe Dumars would do it as a favor to Sheed for the years he gave them.

Also, would the Spurs be allowed to pay most of Rob's salary upfront? No way Detroit would want to pay the whole thing for less than half a season on the roster.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Calm down.

Okay I just talked a friend who works for the Pistons and he said yes there is something happening. He could not give me all the people involved but did say that Duncan and Parker would be going to Detriot. He was pretty sure Kwame Brown and a few other players would be going back in the deal. Stay tuned this is going to be huge.

[SequSpur]

yeah right... :rolleyes

[Spursfan092120]

Yeah, Rasheed is making $13.68 million this season. Spurs would have to send out 85% - $100,000 of that to get him, so we're looking at $11.52 million.

Oberto = $3.5 M
Finley = $2.5 M

Rob was signed to about $3.1M last year, so the Spurs could sign him to about $3.25M or so max (105% of last year's deal).

So far that brings the total the Spurs would have to make up to $2.27 million. That means one of these cases:

1) trade Bowen
2) trade Bonner
3) trade Vaughn + one of Udoka, Mahinmi, and Hill


I'd love to have Rasheed, but no way I'm moving Bowen or Hill, and Bonner won't be moved with the way he's shooting. Aside from the near-impossibility of this deal from the Spurs side, what is Detroit getting out of it? The only explanation is maybe Dumars would do it as a favor to Sheed for the years he gave them.

Bowen would just be waived and come back. No biggie...it would have to involve another big (Ian or Splitter), maybe a pick or two, or cash.

[Spursfan092120]

Okay I just talked a friend who works for the Pistons and he said yes there is something happening. He could not give me all the people involved but did say that Duncan and Parker would be going to Detriot. He was pretty sure Kwame Brown and a few other players would be going back in the deal. Stay tuned this is going to be huge.

lol..dude..it wasn't us starting the whole deal. It was a radio station in Detroit....it's not like we're just making this up.

[baseline bum]

Bowen would just be waived and come back. No biggie...it would have to involve another big (Ian or Splitter), maybe a pick or two, or cash.

Spurs are going to need Bowen for this stretch run of the season.

[024]

maybe detroit hates the lakers and celtics so much that they are willing to do this. every thought of that?? huh??

seriously though, the OP is probably laughing his ass off right now.

[Spursfan092120]

Spurs are going to need Bowen for this stretch run of the season.
yeah..that's one thing that could be scary...but then again, the playoffs is what matters most. 30 days would be rough without him, but our guys would have to step up...we can do it...:flag:

[Thompson]

Aside from the near-impossibility of this deal from the Spurs side, what is Detroit getting out of it? The only explanation is maybe Dumars would do it as a favor to Sheed for the years he gave them.

No one's really mentioned that, but I was also hoping that would come into play to some degree. Maybe that, plus Detroit avoiding the luxury tax, gaining tax proceeds and a few picks would do it. Realistic? Probably not, but it would be so awesome.

[Chomag]

Yeah, Rasheed is making $13.68 million this season. Spurs would have to send out 85% - $100,000 of that to get him, so we're looking at $11.52 million.

Oberto = $3.5 M
Finley = $2.5 M

Rob was signed to about $3.1M last year, so the Spurs could sign him to about $3.25M or so max (105% of last year's deal).

So far that brings the total the Spurs would have to make up to $2.27 million. That means one of these cases:

1) trade Bowen
2) trade Bonner
3) trade Vaughn + one of Udoka, Mahinmi, and Hill


I'd love to have Rasheed, but no way I'm moving Bowen or Hill, and Bonner won't be moved with the way he's shooting. Aside from the near-impossibility of this deal from the Spurs side, what is Detroit getting out of it? The only explanation is maybe Dumars would do it as a favor to Sheed for the years he gave them.

Exactly what I have been thinking. Maybe Sheed and dumars had a meeting together and cam to an agreement that sheed does not fit in the futer movement of the Pistons, and Sheed told him he would love to come to San Antonio if possible. Otherwise yes it is a bit of a strange trade.

[IronMexican]

Okay I just talked a friend who works for the Pistons and he said yes there is something happening. He could not give me all the people involved but did say that Duncan and Parker would be going to Detriot. He was pretty sure Kwame Brown and a few other players would be going back in the deal. Stay tuned this is going to be huge.

Serious?

[DAF86]

I'm not going to read this entire thread. The title in itself looks like bullshit to me but here are some good amount of people very excited so please can somebody tell me what's going on? Who spread the rumor and what players are involved?

[DrHouse]

Dr. House, are you scared now, or simply terrified?

Iloved your lame comment about Sheed only hoisting threes these days. You forgot the fact that he makes threes, not just shoots them. And in the playoffs he would shut down Gasol to the point of tears. Sheed defends Tim Duncan as well as anybody in this league ever has. And this just in...Gasol is no Tim Duncan. Nor is Bynum, if you can ever get his "loose" knees to function correctly. Is that what the doctors called them, "loose"?

With Sheed, you LA punks wouldn't get within 15 points of us in any game, anywhere.

We'll wave to you from the Riverwalk in June, Dr. House.

Terrified?

:lmao

[Chomag]

yeah..that's one thing that could be scary...but then again, the playoffs is what matters most. 30 days would be rough without him, but our guys would have to step up...we can do it...:flag:

Agreed, but Bowen is not,and doesnt seem like he will be getting alot of minutes before the playoffs anyway. So I'm not sure we would be hurting to much duiring the 30 days.

[Spursfan092120]

I'm not going to read this entire thread. The title in itself looks like bullshit to me but here are some good amount of people very excited so please can somebody tell me what's going on? Who spread the rumor and what players are involved?

Apparently it's a rumor, but it was mentioned by VERY reliable sources that it has been announced to be very close to being done. Would involve Fab and Finley going to Detroit, along with some others, and bringing Rasheed to SA.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

lol..dude..it wasn't us starting the whole deal. It was a radio station in Detroit....it's not like we're just making this up.

Well my friend does drink a little bit so take it for what it is a Rumor.:lol

[Spursfan092120]

Agreed, but Bowen is not,and doesnt seem like he will be getting alot of minutes before the playoffs anyway. So I'm not sure we would be hurting to much duiring the 30 days.

my sentiments exactly.

[Spursfan092120]

Well my friend does drink a little bit so take it for what it is a Rumor.:lol

That's exactly what we're taking it for...but rumors excite people..and when it's on a radio station, and they say it's about to be done, it makes it a little more exciting.

[DPG21920]

I wish Ludden broke this story.

[DAF86]

No matter if the rumor is true or not I think a lot of people need to apologizes to the OP

[Vinnie_Johnson]

That's exactly what we're taking it for...but rumors excite people..and when it's on a radio station, and they say it's about to be done, it makes it a little more exciting.

Yeah I know it's fun.:toast But it is what it is.

[IronMexican]

Sheed for Mbenga

[DPG21920]

Sheed for Mbenga

why would la do that?

[024]

it actually makes sense for detroit to ditch wallace right now especially if he has already declared his intent to leave next year. rather get a few 1st rounders or high potential young players than nothing. hard to see spurs pull this off without involving the spurs mortgaging their future.

[Kori Ellis]

The posters who are just making up crap in this thread to make fun of the original topic, need to just get out.

It's not like this thread was just made up. It's something that is being reported rumor from a Detroit source on a radio station here and is a topic of discussion. You don't need to believe it, but the weird bashing of the original poster isn't necessary.

Thanks,

Kori

[IronMexican]

Idk. I just wanted to try and piss someone off.

[Thompson]

I think I'd rather the trade be kept a secret and occur right before the deadline.

If it does happen now we'll all be overjoyed until the Lakers trade Sun Yue and filler for Dwight Howard.

[ManuTP9]

Sheed for Mbenga

:toast

[Spursfan092120]

The posters who are just making up crap in this thread to make fun of the original topic, need to just get out.

It's not like this thread was just made up. It's something that is being reported rumor from a Detroit source on a radio station here and is a topic of discussion. You don't need to believe it, but the weird bashing of the original poster isn't necessary.

Thanks,

Kori

:clap
Thank you.

[Galileo]

ST?

Is this Spurstalk or Smacktalk??

[Spursfan092120]

I think I'd rather the trade be kept a secret and occur right before the deadline.

If it does happen now we'll all be overjoyed until the Lakers trade Sun Yue and filler for Dwight Howard.

We laugh now...but this is David Stern's NBA...:lol..This is the same guy who said his dream Finals matchup would be the Lakers vs. the Lakers.

[Behrooz24]

w00t!

I just ordered this:

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[WALLACE]&set=key[number],value[30]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p5323673_customback.chain]

[DPG21920]

This is what I was discussing with JamStone. It does make some sense if they are not getting any other offers. If they can save millions, keep their cap space and get a young project big, then that is not a bad haul for Sheed.

The only thing he was arguing was that Dumars said he is not giving up on this season.

[Spursfan092120]

w00t!

I just ordered this:

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key%5Bname%5D,value%5BWALLACE%5D&set=key%5Bnumber%5D,value%5B36%5D&set=key%5Bdisplaysize%5D,value%5B500%5D&load=url%5Bhttp://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p5323673_customback.chain%5D

:cry
It's just....so...beautiful.

[urunobili]

w00t!

I just ordered this:

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[WALLACE]&set=key[number],value[30]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p5323673_customback.chain]

:wow:wow:wow:wow:wow

[Das Texan]

Jeff McDonald of Express-News is here at airport. Did not know of anything yet either, but he said he just got off plane as well. Boarding now. Later peeps




Like he knows anything on a regular basis anyway?

[DPG21920]

e_F6K8sa460


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yV8dPEELruE

[Spursfan092120]

e_F6K8sa460


4wmpFF2jB_o

yV8dPEELruE

Wow..that would be amazing..we need that...I mean...someone who can...dance like that... :lol ...seriously though..I hope this thing happens.

[Ghazi]

I dont get why the Pistons would trade Rasheed for trash? He's expiring anyway.

[coyotes_geek]

Yeah, Rasheed is making $13.68 million this season. Spurs would have to send out 85% - $100,000 of that to get him, so we're looking at $11.52 million.

Oberto = $3.5 M
Finley = $2.5 M

Rob was signed to about $3.1M last year, so the Spurs could sign him to about $3.25M or so max (105% of last year's deal).

So far that brings the total the Spurs would have to make up to $2.27 million. That means one of these cases:

1) trade Bowen
2) trade Bonner
3) trade Vaughn + one of Udoka, Mahinmi, and Hill


I'd love to have Rasheed, but no way I'm moving Bowen or Hill, and Bonner won't be moved with the way he's shooting. Aside from the near-impossibility of this deal from the Spurs side, what is Detroit getting out of it? The only explanation is maybe Dumars would do it as a favor to Sheed for the years he gave them.

Also, would the Spurs be allowed to pay most of Rob's salary upfront? No way Detroit would want to pay the whole thing for less than half a season on the roster.

Horry is a free agent and the Spurs have full bird rights on him. They can sign him for anything up to the max. The 105% would come into play if he were still under contract and signing an extension.

Also, the 85% is from the old CBA.

[Kori Ellis]

I dont get why the Pistons would trade Rasheed for trash? He's expiring anyway.

They wouldn't. There would be way more to any deal than just Fab and Finley.

[ducks]

thanks cap poster!

[George Gervin's Afro]

I dont get why the Pistons would trade Rasheed for trash? He's expiring anyway.

that's kinda where i'm at. but hey with the gasol giveaway last year anything is possible

[silk]

I hope this radio guy didn't fucked things up, a rival team ( say the suns) could panik and rush things ....unless detroit does this to get more calls...


Spurs with rasheed should scare the shit out of everyone in the league

[DPG21920]

This is what I was discussing with JamStone. It does make some sense if they are not getting any other offers. If they can save millions, keep their cap space and get a young project big, then that is not a bad haul for Sheed.

The only thing he was arguing was that Dumars said he is not giving up on this season.


I dont get why the Pistons would trade Rasheed for trash? He's expiring anyway.

Also maybe a third team.

[Kori Ellis]

that's kinda where i'm at. but hey with the gasol giveaway last year anything is possible

Well there's been no details on the deal. It could involve a third team, or more players from the Spurs. So who knows.

[ducks]

pistons like spurs that is why they do the deal

if deal not not include mason I do it

[ducks]

QUESTION
WOULD ANYONE BE WILLING TO TRADE HILL FOR THIS DEAL?

pistons have a rising star though for pg

[George Gervin's Afro]

Well there's been no details on the deal. It could involve a third team, or more players from the Spurs. So who knows.

i just don't see anything of value that the spurs could offer.

[FreeMason]

I will sacrifice whatever Pop asks of me this weekend.

[pkbpkb81]

Well there's been no details on the deal. It could involve a third team, or more players from the Spurs. So who knows.

it's got to have a 3rd team, honestly i just dont see anyone wanting the peices the spurs would be willing to give up.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I will sacrifice whatever Pop asks of me this weekend.

would you praise obama?

[Kori Ellis]

i just don't see anything of value that the spurs could offer.

Manu Ginobili?
:lmao

[George Gervin's Afro]

Manu Ginobili?
:lmao

would u trade manu for wallace?

[SequSpur]

would u trade manu for wallace?

hell yeah, i would.

[Kori Ellis]

would u trade manu for wallace?

No, I wouldn't :lmao