Should liquor stores be allowed to sell alcohol on Sundays?

[JudynTX]

:tu Yes!

Some people in south Texas are all too familiar with the frustrated feeling when wanting to run out for a bottle of tequila to make margaritas, and then remembering what day of the week it is. If a new bill gets passed, all that could change.

State Representative Roland Guiterrez of District 119 has proposed a new law allowing liquor stores to sell alcohol on Sundays from noon to six. He says it's not to appease those who just need a Sunday cocktail, but instead to generate some much-needed money for the state.

"We could provide some additional revenue from sales tax at a time when we have a projected $9 billion shortfall from 2010 and 2011," said Guiterrez.

Guiterrez admits the bill will be hard for everyone to swallow.

It also appears some opposition will come from liquor store owners. Many people say they don't think it would be cost-effective to be open on Sundays, and they prefer having the day off to spend with their families.

Liquor (http://http://www.kvue.com/news/state/stories/020909kvue_boozes-story-eh.344222ff.html)

[Richard Cranium]

I drink beer on Sundays so no big deal to me.

[Dr. Gonzo]

No. Stupid.

[Bender]

yes. Many times on sundays the wife & I needed tequila or rum or whatever to make drinks

[CubanMustGo]

No. Stupid.

Why?

Why can't car dealers sell cars on Sundays?

Why should there be a law restricting the sale of only a very small, specific list of goods on a day of the week that oh-so-coincidentally is observed as a day of rest by certain religious groups? Separation of church and state should have gotten blue laws thrown out a long time ago.

[Blake]

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It also appears some opposition will come from liquor store owners. Many people say they don't think it would be cost-effective to be open on Sundays, and they prefer having the day off to spend with their families.



then don't open your store on Sunday. Problem solved.

It sucked this past Super Bowl Sunday when we ran out of liquor for the margaritas. I vote yes.

[tlongII]

Yes, of course.

[IronMexican]

Why the fuck not?

[SpursStalker]

Beer and wine are already sold so why not?

[byrontx]

There is supposed to be a separation of church and state but the reality is quite different. What pisses me off is that you cannot buy beer before 12 on Sunday. That has screwed up a few fishing/camping trips. Any church that wants to see my ass on Sunday better be serving $0.25 longnecks.

[leemajors]

prohibition was repealed long ago, draconian.

[RandomGuy]

:tu Yes!

Some people in south Texas are all too familiar with the frustrated feeling when wanting to run out for a bottle of tequila to make margaritas, and then remembering what day of the week it is. If a new bill gets passed, all that could change.

State Representative Roland Guiterrez of District 119 has proposed a new law allowing liquor stores to sell alcohol on Sundays from noon to six. He says it's not to appease those who just need a Sunday cocktail, but instead to generate some much-needed money for the state.

"We could provide some additional revenue from sales tax at a time when we have a projected $9 billion shortfall from 2010 and 2011," said Guiterrez.

Guiterrez admits the bill will be hard for everyone to swallow.

It also appears some opposition will come from liquor store owners. Many people say they don't think it would be cost-effective to be open on Sundays, and they prefer having the day off to spend with their families.

Liquor (http://http://www.kvue.com/news/state/stories/020909kvue_boozes-story-eh.344222ff.html)

I would be willing to bet that nothing in the law requires stores to be open on Sundays.

If you want the business, and can make a profit over your expenses on that day, go for it.

Blue laws are fucktardedly backwards, I would repeal most laws regarding bans on sales anyways.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Why?

Why can't car dealers sell cars on Sundays?

Why should there be a law restricting the sale of only a very small, specific list of goods on a day of the week that oh-so-coincidentally is observed as a day of rest by certain religious groups? Separation of church and state should have gotten blue laws thrown out a long time ago.

Because it's the holy sabbath of course.

[Dr. Gonzo]

It says it in the Bible.

Walter 38:23 "And the Jesus sayeth, 'Do not drinketh thou booze on thy Sabbath. For I am the Lord. Stupid."

[RandomGuy]

There is supposed to be a separation of church and state but the reality is quite different. What pisses me off is that you cannot buy beer before 12 on Sunday. That has screwed up a few fishing/camping trips. Any church that wants to see my ass on Sunday better be serving $0.25 longnecks.

+1 :lol

[CuckingFunt]

It says it in the Bible.

Walter 38:23 "And the Jesus sayeth, 'Do not drinketh thou booze on thy Sabbath. For I am the Lord. Stupid."

Please, I beg of you, don't turn this thread into another religious argument with peewee. No one needs that.

[RandomGuy]

Please, I beg of you, don't turn this thread into another religious argument with peewee. No one needs that.

Speak for yourself. :corn:

Now that you mention that I may just have to msg him to make sure it happens... j/k.

[ALVAREZ6]

why the fuck not?

[EricB]

It says it in the Bible.

Walter 38:23 "And the Jesus sayeth, 'Do not drinketh thou booze on thy Sabbath. For I am the Lord. Stupid."

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[smeagol]

Another stupid law . . .

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

It says it in the Bible.

Walter 38:23 "And the Jesus sayeth, 'Do not drinketh thou booze on thy Sabbath. For I am the Lord. Stupid."

Was Walter an apostle of Marv or the brother of Herschel?

[BlackSwordsMan]

yes why not?

[JudynTX]

Why can't they sell liquor in grocery stores like up in Chicago? :bang

[leemajors]

only thing i would disagree with Steven there is i believe it's "thine booze"

[Jekka]

The liquor laws in Michigan are awesome - they can sell liquor up here until like 200am and at regular grocery stores. So you can buy your vodka one aisle down from the orange juice. It's very convenient.

[EricB]

This isn't 1925, and people will get their alchohol anyways, so whats the point of not selling it on freaking sunday?

Also, let Wal Mart sell liquor in their stores please, its retarded that they don't allow HEB and Wal Mart to sell the stuff.

[CuckingFunt]

I don't even know the liquor laws in California. I've never not been able to get booze when/where I wanted to, so it hasn't been an issue yet.

[Strike]

Here in Oregon, liquor stores are open on Sundays. The law changed a few years ago allowing distilled spirits to be sold on Sundays. Oddly enough, it didn't lead to more public drunkenness or drunk driving crashes on Sundays. At least I've seen no evidence. How retarded is it that we are still dealing with the effects of the temperance movement so many years later?

Now all we need to do here is allow grocery stores to sell booze and I'll be one happy mofo.

[Borosai]

Yes. There's nothing special about Sunday.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Was Walter an apostle of Marv or the brother of Herschel?

He was Joe's wacky neighbor. Kinda like Larry Dallas but only with more hair and less wit.

[EricB]

He was Joe's wacky neighbor. Kinda like Larry Dallas but only with more hair and less wit.

:lmao

[Larry Dallas]

He was Joe's wacky neighbor. Kinda like Larry Dallas but only with more hair and less wit.

And less of a player.

[Dr. Gonzo]

And less of a player.

That goes without saying.

[pkbpkb81]

Why?

Why can't car dealers sell cars on Sundays?

Why should there be a law restricting the sale of only a very small, specific list of goods on a day of the week that oh-so-coincidentally is observed as a day of rest by certain religious groups? Separation of church and state should have gotten blue laws thrown out a long time ago.

on the car thing they can sell on sundays but they would have to close on saturdays it's a dumb law

[half a man]

They should wait at least till half the the day is over to sell booze on Sunday.

[AlamoSpursFan]

on the car thing they can sell on sundays but they would have to close on saturdays it's a dumb law

That law is there to keep car lots from working their salesmen 7 days a week to make their commissions. But you're right, it's a dumb law. You should be able to work whenever the hell you want to, IMO...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Yes. Fucking christians.

[AlamoSpursFan]

Oh, and my alkie, Irish-American ass says "HELL YES, LET ME BUY JAMESON ON SUNDAY!!!"

:lol

[The Reckoning]

theres a new casino/arcade feature. the vbookie is for the casino...

[PuttPutt]

Here in Oregon, liquor stores are open on Sundays. The law changed a few years ago allowing distilled spirits to be sold on Sundays. Oddly enough, it didn't lead to more public drunkenness or drunk driving crashes on Sundays. At least I've seen no evidence. How retarded is it that we are still dealing with the effects of the temperance movement so many years later?

Now all we need to do here is allow grocery stores to sell booze and I'll be one happy mofo.


Not all the stores are open here in WA on Sundays. There's usually a store or 2 that are open around here. It hasn't lead to anything up here either.

[MiamiHeat]

DID SOMEONE MENTION JESUS IN THIS THREAD? :wakeup

[DANILO DRASKOVIC]

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2008/03/a1a11111111.jpg

[Whisky Dog]

Wine is sold on Sunday because it is Jesus approved. If he had turned water into tequila we'd be all set.

[spurspf]

DID SOMEONE MENTION JESUS IN THIS THREAD? :wakeup

It's what's known as a blue law here in Texas. Why? Even Kmart couldn't open on Sundays for their blue light specials, or at all for that matter. Ask a store owner whether they would rather be open on Sundays or Mondays or hell even Tuesdays, when they would rather be open, now ask a place that sells alcohol, when they have all these people that could come in all day. It is because of all the Jesus "believers" here in Texas. Shouldn't you be in church on Sunday?

[chode_regulator]

This isn't 1925, and people will get their alchohol anyways, so whats the point of not selling it on freaking sunday?

Also, let Wal Mart sell liquor in their stores please, its retarded that they don't allow HEB and Wal Mart to sell the stuff.

Im assuming you are referring to only Texas walmarts. When I was in Fl Walmart had their own separate liquor store that was connected, just a separate entrance. Cheapest prices around. Also they were open til 10 which is nice and open on sundays.

I think it was AZ where they sell liquor in convenient stores. That was fucking awesome, buying liquor at 7 AM after a denny's breakfast and still drunk and thankfully we were able to keep on going!

Either way nothing special about sunday. If a store owner doesn't want his store/s open then don't have them open. But don't make it not allowed. Its no different then if i went to a restaurant. Why can I buy overpriced water dwon liquor from a restaurant but not froma store?

[Chief]

Right now Convenience Stores can sell beer on Sunday after 12:00 so why not liquor stores.

I alway's thought why not just buy extra beer on saturday so u won't run out before noon on sunday.

I don't think there should be any time restrictions on Sunday. Should be seperation of Church n State.

[mFFL03]

technically isn't Saturday the holy day....?

If Sunday is the first day of the week....then Saturday would actually be the lords resting day, not Sunday.

How about this logic.....why on Sundays are most businesses closed, or close early when all consumers have the day off from work? Isn't this the most ideal time to go shopping, GET A CAR FIXED, etc. ?

[CubanMustGo]

The economy may finally take care of these stupid blue laws.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599188034000;_ylt=AkL_aF1MAZ.s4qsQIuHntvVhr7sF

A handful of state legislatures have declared it's closing time for Sunday alcohol sales restrictions, saying an extra day of sales could give their foundering budgets a much-needed shot of revenue. Those states - Georgia, Connecticut, Texas, Alabama and Minnesota - enjoy overwhelming voter support for an extra day of sales, but face opposition from members of the Christian right, who say that selling on Sunday undermines safety and tears apart families. "During times of economic stress, our families are under enough pressure," says Jim Beck, the president of the Georgia Christian Coalition. "I don't think we need to add even more pressure to those families by passing this law."

But proponents of Sunday sales argue that state budgets are under plenty of pressure too and that by allowing people to buy beer, wine or liquor on Sunday at grocery or package stores, states could reap millions of dollars in tax revenue. Besides, as President Roosevelt learned in the 1930s when he successfully repealed Prohibition, drinks have a way of keeping hopes high when things look bleak. In Johnathan Alter's The Defining Moment: FDR's Hundred Days and the Triumph of Hope, the President recognized that legally-procured cocktails were the way to keep spirits high when Americans were trying to get used to putting their trust into the nation's crumbling banking system again. And, it could be argued, the sales also helped stimulate the economy in the middle of the Great Depression.

"[Sunday sales legislation] always comes bubbling up when the economy goes south," says David Laband, an Auburn University economics professor who authored Blue Laws: The History, Economics, and Politics of Sunday-Closing Laws. Blue laws, which restrict shopping of any kind on Sunday, date back to the colonial era, Laband says. However, those laws gradually died off as economic forces made some states realize that they could stand to gain by having stores open on Sunday. For example, the entry of women into the workforce in World War II made weekend shopping a necessity.

"Slowly and systematically we've seen these laws lifted in past century, even more so when there has been an economic downturn," Laband says. "States realize that consumers will migrate to a place where they can buy what they want. And whatever their reasons are for not wanting to sell on Sunday, these states realize they're paying a price for it in foregone tax revenues. So once the economy goes bad, then the cost of their policies are apparent to them."

Beck argues that when you're facing a budget shortfall in the billions, the extra revenue from an added day of alcohol sales is just a drop in the bucket. His opponents, however, insist it is significant. "At least it's a drop," says Georgia Senator Seth Harp, who introduced a bill proposing local referendums on Sunday sales. "Maybe it's even a cup full. But right now, I'd like to have a couple of cups full than nothing at all."

Three states - Georgia, Connecticut and Indiana - ban the sale of beer, wine and spirits, while 15 ban only liquor sales. Connecticut is considering repealing its ban because it has been losing revenue to New York, Massachusetts and Rhode Island, three neighboring states that repealed Sunday sales bans in 2003. Texas is also reconsidering Sunday sales bans of liquor, with three bills in the state's Senate, two of them specific to sales along the Texas-Mexico border. wtf? "States are seeing Sunday sales as a positive way to raise revenue without raising taxes or cutting valuable programs," says Ben Jenkins, spokesman for the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. "That, along with consumer demand, is driving this change."

And though religious groups have sounded off about how Sunday sales are harmful to families, legislators such as Harp are reaching out to them by adding enforcement provisions designed to crack down on store owners who sell to minors. In a state like Georgia, where more than two-thirds of residents say they'd like to be able to buy a six pack on the sabbath, Harp's efforts may just win his bill votes, even though Governor Sonny Perdue, a teetotaler, said he'd veto any bill that came across his desk.

But Perdue won't be in office forever and anti-Sunday sales advocates across the nation may realize the tide is turning against them too. "People have got a lot of activities that occupy their time, attention and affection on Sunday and shopping is one of them," Laband says. "Churches have had to come to grips with that; they haven't drawn a line in the sand and said 'You have to go to church.' So the trend is clear that states will do away with some of these alcohol prohibitions. It will happen. It's just a matter of when."

[Dr. Gonzo]

States need to start looking at legalizing weed and taxing it to increase their revenues.

[Kermit]

States need to start looking at legalizing weed and taxing it to increase their revenues.

According to Rush, Cali's well on it's way.

[1Parker1]

You can't sell cars on Sundays in Texas?? :wow That doesn't even make sense.

And in PA, we don't sell drinks in grocery stores but you can buy it anytime anywhere on Sundays as far as I know.