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Cant_Be_Faded
02-13-2009, 08:56 PM
We all know of the camps that were created under Bush that were potential terrorist camps. Now, we know this.

But did you know this?


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

HR 645 yo. A camp is a camp is a camp.


111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 645

To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 22, 2009

Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘National Emergency Centers Establishment Act’.

SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--

(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;

(2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;

(3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and

(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
(We are fucked).
SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;

(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;

(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;

(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;

(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and

(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and

(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.

(c) Location of National Emergency Centers- There shall be established not fewer than one national emergency center in each of the following areas:

(1) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions I, II, and III.

(2) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV.

(3) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions V and VII.

(4) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region VI.

(5) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Regions VIII and X.

(6) The area consisting of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IX.

(d) Preference for Designation of Closed Military Installations- Wherever possible, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate a closed military installation as a site for a national emergency center. If the Secretaries of Homeland Security and Defense jointly determine that there is not a sufficient number of closed military installations that meet the requirements of subsections (b) and (c), the Secretaries shall jointly designate portions of existing military installations other than closed military installations as national emergency centers.

(e) Transfer of Control of Closed Military Installations- If a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Defense shall transfer to the Secretary of Homeland Security administrative jurisdiction over such closed military installation.

(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

(g) Reports-

(1) PRELIMINARY REPORT- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an outline of the reasons why the site was selected;

(B) an outline of the need to construct, repair, or update any existing infrastructure at the site;

(C) an outline of the need to conduct any necessary environmental clean-up at the site;

(D) an outline of preliminary plans for the transfer of control of the site from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of Homeland Security, if necessary under subsection (e); and

(E) an outline of preliminary plans for entering into a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f).

(2) UPDATE REPORT- Not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) an update on the information contained in the report as required by paragraph (1);

(B) an outline of the progress made toward the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(C) an outline of the progress made toward entering a cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(D) recommendations regarding any authorizations and appropriations that may be necessary to provide for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(3) FINAL REPORT- Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, shall submit to Congress a report that contains for each designated site--

(A) finalized information detailing the transfer of control of the site, if necessary under subsection (e);

(B) the finalized cooperative agreement for the establishment of a national emergency center at the site, if necessary under subsection (f); and

(C) any additional information pertinent to the establishment of a national emergency center at the site.

(4) ADDITIONAL REPORTS- The Secretary of Homeland Security, acting jointly with the Secretary of Defense, may submit to Congress additional reports as necessary to provide updates on steps being taken to meet the requirements of this Act.

SEC. 4. LIMITATIONS ON STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION.

This Act does not affect--

(1) the authority of the Federal Government to provide emergency or major disaster assistance or to implement any disaster mitigation and response program, including any program authorized by the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et seq.); or

(2) the authority of a State or local government to respond to an emergency.

SEC. 5. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

There is authorized to be appropriated $180,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2009 and 2010 to carry out this Act. Such funds shall remain available until expended.

SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act, the following definitions apply:

(1) CLOSED MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term ‘closed military installation’ means a military installation, or portion thereof, approved for closure or realignment under the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note) that meet all, or 2 out of the 3 following requirements:

(A) Is located in close proximity to a transportation corridor.

(B) Is located in a State with a high level or threat of disaster related activities.

(C) Is located near a major metropolitan center.

(2) EMERGENCY- The term ‘emergency’ has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(3) MAJOR DISASTER- The term ‘major disaster’ has the meaning given such term in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).

(4) MILITARY INSTALLATION- The term ‘military installation’ has the meaning given such term in section 2910 of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990 (part A of title XXIX of Public Law 101-510; 10 U.S.C. 2687 note).

Cant_Be_Faded
02-13-2009, 09:16 PM
yeah they are just making sure all bases are covered with this one.

The Reckoning
02-13-2009, 09:18 PM
:depressed

FreeMason
02-13-2009, 10:07 PM
BEWARE THE FEMA CAMPS!

Cant_Be_Faded
02-13-2009, 10:19 PM
What is scarier? That they are doing this or that it makes Alex Jones sound right?

FreeMason
02-13-2009, 10:42 PM
During these times, nothing sounds crazy anymore.

Well, besides the 9/11 truthers, but everything else is fair game.

boutons_
02-13-2009, 11:15 PM
Militarization of the local/state police after 9/11 will very probably be used against Americans much more than it ever will be against attackers of America, just like everything else the feds have done since 9/11 to violate every inch of our lives.

The police and military will do whatever they are ordered to do to American citizens.

balli
02-13-2009, 11:21 PM
Bring it motherfuckers, I'm looking forward to it.

Shastafarian
02-13-2009, 11:25 PM
You wanna revolt?

SouthernFried
02-14-2009, 07:33 AM
If your don't want to live under socialism...you want to revolt.

If you like socialism...no worries mate, go back to sleep. The Government will take care of it.

Shastafarian
02-14-2009, 09:26 AM
If your don't want to live under socialism...you want to revolt.


I'm glad we're not living under socialism then. Otherwise damn, I'd just have to revolt.

It's amazing how many people don't know what Socialism is. I guess listening to Rush and the morons in the Republican Party can have the affect of disintegrating your grey matter.

SouthernFried
02-14-2009, 10:00 AM
I'm glad we're not living under socialism then. Otherwise damn, I'd just have to revolt.

It's amazing how many people don't know what Socialism is. I guess listening to Rush and the morons in the Republican Party can have the affect of disintegrating your grey matter.

Can you work without government approval and a SS card? No

Can you Drive a vehicle without govt approval and a license? No

Can you make money without telling the government about it and giving them part of it? No

You even need governmental approval and a government license to get married, go fishing...or leave the country. Now you'll need a govt official to determine if your eligible for certain medical treatment. Not your doctor...a govt beaurocrat.

Yes...it is very amazing so many people don't know what Socialism is. Govt education system has made sure of this

And I couldn't agree more. Listening to ABC/CNN/NBC/NPR/OBAMA and the governmental run education system... as well as the morons in the Democrat party...has turned this nation into a bunch of idiot sheep that the media and Democrats can lead along to their next shearing.

Fucking Morons...all of 'em.

SpursFanFirst
02-14-2009, 10:18 AM
CBF,

This is actually something I've been keeping an eye on.
It's pretty scary, actually.

We have one here on the south side of Indy.
I've asked one of our reporters to look into it before. Naturally, the response was "there's nothing going on. We aren't using them."
What else are they going to say?

Also, we had the Marines practicing here about 6 months ago.

I've been told not to worry until there's something to worry about. Hm.

Shastafarian
02-14-2009, 10:28 AM
Can you work without government approval and a SS card? No

Can you Drive a vehicle without govt approval and a license? No

Can you make money without telling the government about it and giving them part of it? No

You even need governmental approval and a government license to get married, go fishing...or leave the country. Now you'll need a govt official to determine if your eligible for certain medical treatment. Not your doctor...a govt beaurocrat.Thanks for illustrating my point.

FreeMason
02-14-2009, 11:08 AM
They are also going to make it ridiculously expensive to own guns/ammo.

Right now you see ridiculous prices, but that is just because of the fear and outweighed demand over supply.

You gots to boil the frog slowly.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-14-2009, 11:41 AM
Thanks for illustrating my point.

It's difficult to read sarcasm on the internet.

Aggie Hoopsfan
02-14-2009, 11:44 AM
Militarization of the local/state police after 9/11 will very probably be used against Americans much more than it ever will be against attackers of America, just like everything else the feds have done since 9/11 to violate every inch of our lives.

The police and military will do whatever they are ordered to do to American citizens.

You're really pretty ignorant. The majority of police in this country are former military, and the majority of them as well as our military will not take up arms against fellow Americans, particularly given the leadership they are seeing out of D.C. these days.

The sad thing is they are even talking about where things are headed amongst themselves, and see the power grabs being set up in D.C., and many even acknowledge the potential exists for a revolution within this country. And all have said they would resign their posts and fight alongside fellow Americans against the government.

The scary thing is that the possibility is even in the conscience at this point.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-14-2009, 11:54 AM
The scary thing is that the possibility is even in the conscience at this point.

I agree.


But you're forgetting about Mercs.

shelshor
02-14-2009, 12:12 PM
Can you work without government approval and a SS card? No

Can you Drive a vehicle without govt approval and a license? No

Can you make money without telling the government about it and giving them part of it? No

You even need governmental approval and a government license to get married, go fishing...or leave the country. Now you'll need a govt official to determine if your eligible for certain medical treatment. Not your doctor...a govt beaurocrat.

Yes...it is very amazing so many people don't know what Socialism is. Govt education system has made sure of this

And I couldn't agree more. Listening to ABC/CNN/NBC/NPR/OBAMA and the governmental run education system... as well as the morons in the Democrat party...has turned this nation into a bunch of idiot sheep that the media and Democrats can lead along to their next shearing.

Fucking Morons...all of 'em.

But you can still vote without an ID

balli
02-14-2009, 02:00 PM
Yes...it is very amazing so many people don't know what Socialism is.
It really is...

Aggie Hoopsfan
02-14-2009, 02:18 PM
I agree.


But you're forgetting about Mercs.

Oh, undoubtedly there will still be those 'bought' by the state, should that day come. But I would advance that if you take a significant portion of our military and put them on the side of the 'people', it won't matter.

Hopefully we never get to that day, but I never thought I'd see the federal government handing out a trillion dollars a quarter to artificially prop up our economy, either.

FreeMason
02-14-2009, 02:49 PM
I agree.


But you're forgetting about Mercs.


I have a feeling who Blackwater....errr XE...will side with :bking

FreeMason
02-14-2009, 02:50 PM
It really is...

I'm just as amazed at the zombies who actually support it and want more.

cool hand
02-14-2009, 02:59 PM
I think they really thought a revolt was coming after Lehman Bros crashed. They were scarced for their lives, hence the TARP.....even though nobody wanted it, they knew they would be strung up if they didn't.

BradLohaus
02-14-2009, 05:44 PM
The vast majority of police and military won't fire on their fellow citizens in a time of crisis.

Absolutely true... that's why governments use foreign soldiers.

SouthernFried
02-14-2009, 08:35 PM
If you want to see a revolt, that happened with one of the strongest Military's in the world "protecting" the country....you only have to look at the former USSR.

A few guys, with a few guns, holding the seat of power demanding change.

Argue about what changes were brought about, and whether or not they were good or not all you want...but, the military pretty much stayed out of it. They'd had enough as well.

Creepn
02-14-2009, 09:17 PM
lmao look at all these scaredy ass chickens clucking and fluttering their wings.

BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK!!!!

lmao

Winehole23
02-14-2009, 11:16 PM
And I couldn't agree more. Listening to ABC/CNN/NBC/NPR/OBAMA and the governmental run education system... as well as the morons in the Democrat party...has turned this nation into a bunch of idiot sheep that the media and Democrats can lead along to their next shearing.

Fucking Morons...all of 'em.^^^Stuck on sheep and morons. Maybe he's got a thing for em.

SouthernFried
02-15-2009, 12:27 AM
^^^Stuck on sheep and morons. Maybe he's got a thing for em.

Well, if you think I got a "thing" for Morons and sheep...your doing your level best to sound like both.

You coming on to me?

Winehole23
02-15-2009, 01:38 AM
Well, if you think I got a "thing" for Morons and sheep...your doing your level best to sound like both.

You coming on to me?In your dreams, sheepshagger.

DarkReign
02-16-2009, 10:56 AM
You're really pretty ignorant. The majority of police in this country are former military, and the majority of them as well as our military will not take up arms against fellow Americans, particularly given the leadership they are seeing out of D.C. these days.

The sad thing is they are even talking about where things are headed amongst themselves, and see the power grabs being set up in D.C., and many even acknowledge the potential exists for a revolution within this country. And all have said they would resign their posts and fight alongside fellow Americans against the government.

Jesus H. Christ, I hope you are right, AHF. I really, really do. But I dont *think* you are.


The scary thing is that the possibility is even in the conscience at this point.

Maybe. I for one think it is healthy to have that element in any society. The ones not satisified or pacified. Even when times are good/great, its better to have dissent to consider in perspective.

But to be honest, I dont see our police forces around the country as civilian law enforcement. Theyre para-military, through and through. If it comes to revolution (yeah...fucking...right, not in this McAmerica), it is my belief the military enforces the will of the sitting government with no exceptions. The most the "rebels" could hope for is one, possibly two generals siding with them.

That is my totally uneducated/informed guess. I really hope I am wrong if that time came (again, not happening).

101A
02-16-2009, 12:45 PM
Just part of the plan, nothing to see here.

HWMIwziGrAQ

Nbadan
02-16-2009, 08:16 PM
.............conspiracy theory.......

balli
02-16-2009, 10:26 PM
Just part of the plan, nothing to see here.
Jesus... You people are fucking paranoid lunatics.

Y'know I really hope you're right (you're not) and Bill Ayers does lock you up in a concentration camp to re-educate you. A lot of you dead-enders could seriously use it.

byrontx
02-17-2009, 08:24 AM
Food that kills...Check
Air that kills...Check
Water that kills...Check
Children in sweatshops...Check
Debtors prisons...Check
Corporal punishment for work slackers (the hell with OSHA)...Check
Nutty neighbors wearing antennas, packing AK's and sandbagging the house...Check
No fish left in the algae-covered bays...Check

This is what some of you guys want...Right? Grab the guns!

I'll opt for more regulation. Although I am a self-employed entrepreneur that makes me a socialist...Right?

Rogue
02-17-2009, 09:10 AM
I would surely appoint Halle Berry as my SOS if I were elected as the president. The only thing that may possibly motivate me to fight against Obama is just his nominating Hillary Clinton instead of Halle Berry, other than that we have to reason to resort to revoltion.
but I believe Obama will find it a bad decision to nominate Hillary and fire her to clear the SOS place for Halle Berry.
Halle Berry >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary Clinton

Crookshanks
02-17-2009, 11:53 AM
My son is in the Air Force and we were talking about this on Sunday. He said the military has very little respect for Obama and they would never turn on their fellow citizens. He reminded me that we have an all-volunteer military and the recruits would dry up and those on active duty would get out as soon as their time was up. In essence, in a very short time we would have no military to speak of.

I don't think our armed forces would follow this "Commander in Chief" down the path of policing American Citizens.

clambake
02-17-2009, 12:39 PM
My son is in the Air Force
does he, by any chance, work with antennas?

He said the military has very little respect for Obama
sounds like they made him very obedient. is his name beaver cleaver?

and they would never turn on their fellow citizens.
bullshit. he'll do what he's told to do and you know it.

He reminded me that we have an all-volunteer military
why? because you're so fucking stupid you can't remember?

and the recruits would dry up and those on active duty would get out as soon as their time was up.
your son is a pathetic liar. there will be a massive amount of people trying to sign up very soon.

In essence, in a very short time we would have no military to speak of.
see above....you parasite.

I don't think
no shit

Cant_Be_Faded
02-18-2009, 01:49 AM
If you want to see a revolt, that happened with one of the strongest Military's in the world "protecting" the country....you only have to look at the former USSR.

A few guys, with a few guns, holding the seat of power demanding change.

Argue about what changes were brought about, and whether or not they were good or not all you want...but, the military pretty much stayed out of it. They'd had enough as well.

Ehhhh there was an insanely vicious, taxing war going on at its borders, and the very future existence of said state was in doubt to most citizens who were very uneducated, poor, a history-changing ideology was reaching a crest, and basically IMO the climate was right for such a change in that situation.

Our situation, is different on many levels.

LnGrrrR
02-20-2009, 10:00 AM
Oh, undoubtedly there will still be those 'bought' by the state, should that day come. But I would advance that if you take a significant portion of our military and put them on the side of the 'people', it won't matter.

Hopefully we never get to that day, but I never thought I'd see the federal government handing out a trillion dollars a quarter to artificially prop up our economy, either.

Alot of military would actually live up to the UCMJ, and stand against those who would try to take over.

LnGrrrR
02-20-2009, 10:02 AM
My son is in the Air Force and we were talking about this on Sunday. He said the military has very little respect for Obama and they would never turn on their fellow citizens. He reminded me that we have an all-volunteer military and the recruits would dry up and those on active duty would get out as soon as their time was up. In essence, in a very short time we would have no military to speak of.

I don't think our armed forces would follow this "Commander in Chief" down the path of policing American Citizens.

What's his AFSC?

hater
02-20-2009, 10:07 AM
this thread is hilarious

smeagol
02-20-2009, 10:26 AM
CBF, you are too much of a pussy to revolt . . .

desflood
02-20-2009, 12:15 PM
My son is in the Air Force and we were talking about this on Sunday. He said the military has very little respect for Obama (1)and they would never turn on their fellow citizens. He reminded me that we have an all-volunteer military and the recruits would dry up and (2)those on active duty would get out as soon as their time was up. In essence, in a very short time we would have no military to speak of.

I don't think our armed forces would follow this "Commander in Chief" down the path of policing American Citizens.
1. Mercenaries always find work.

2. Stop-loss is alive and well.

Crookshanks
02-20-2009, 03:26 PM
What's his AFSC?
Sorry - I'm not up on all the acronyms anymore - it's been too long since I was an Air Force wife! Anyway, he's stationed at Barksdale AFB and he works with the mainframe computer network.

SpursFanFirst
02-20-2009, 03:27 PM
My son is in the Air Force and we were talking about this on Sunday. He said the military has very little respect for Obama and they would never turn on their fellow citizens. He reminded me that we have an all-volunteer military and the recruits would dry up and those on active duty would get out as soon as their time was up. In essence, in a very short time we would have no military to speak of.

I don't think our armed forces would follow this "Commander in Chief" down the path of policing American Citizens.

This is purely hypothetical, of course, but...
What if it came to this, and the government threatened the families of military men and women if they didn't cooperate?
Would the military still turn on the government and fight alongside other citizens?

SpursFanFirst
02-20-2009, 03:29 PM
does he, by any chance, work with antennas?

sounds like they made him very obedient. is his name beaver cleaver?

bullshit. he'll do what he's told to do and you know it.

why? because you're so fucking stupid you can't remember?

your son is a pathetic liar. there will be a massive amount of people trying to sign up very soon.

see above....you parasite.

no shit

Wow. Obviously you don't agree with Crookshanks, but could you be any more of a jerk?

LnGrrrR
02-20-2009, 04:26 PM
Sorry - I'm not up on all the acronyms anymore - it's been too long since I was an Air Force wife! Anyway, he's stationed at Barksdale AFB and he works with the mainframe computer network.

He probably does what I do... I'm a 3C2 (network guy). He could also be a 2E2. Barksdale is only a few hours from me here at Keesler. Is he hoping that the CyberCommand HQ is going to go there?