Spurs vs. Jazz March 6th -- Game Blog

[timvp]

Can the Spurs beat the Jazz? Remember the Elbow.



P.S.

Congrats, Sean Elliott.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Fuck the elbow! Remember when they dropped an L on us this season?

[ducks]

the spurs should start on fire
or be completly flat
I hope the first

[Manu20]

There is no way the Spurs are going to lose this game.

[Rummpd]

Manu DUNK!

[stéphane]

There is no way the Spurs are going to lose this game.
agree
they havent been that great recently, playing good bball 20mins over 48 the two last games...
Pulling a great win against Utah would give them a lot of confidence to face the Suns...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Ole, ole, ole, ole...Manu...Manu...

[Rummpd]

Great start, Spurs playing tough with dunks 11-9. Good sign that Tim and Rasho have scored and now Tim to line.

[Rummpd]

Duncan cans 2 FTs = 9 straight counting last game.

[Blazer16]

Nesterovich got the jumper

[Rummpd]

I would love to have had AK on Spurs, = great shot blocker and can score.

[boutons]

Tony's flat, he ain't got it, looks tired. Maybe he'll heat up later.

[stéphane]

Tony's flat, he ain't got it, looks tired. Maybe he'll heat up later.

yep but seems el Manu going to shine tonight :king

[Blazer16]

Any word if Nazr is going to see any time tonight?

[stéphane]

Any word if Nazr is going to see any time tonight?

Jazz game at home would be a good one for him but dont know about his groin...

[Rummpd]

How many offensive rebounds Spurs with a ton, now only if they were hitting shots but it shows HUSTLE!!

[JUUOT]

tony said it last thursday on its show and apparently confirmed tonight:
he starts feeling confortable again with his midrange jumper which he had lost for a certain time now.
good sign before the suns and hope keep rising before playoff because midrange jumper are needed for spurs.

[Rummpd]

Manu tres with 11 25-20!

[Rummpd]

Boy Barry and Manu are playing very aggressively. Spurs look good this quarter.

Barry with FTs x 2. 27-20.

[Rummpd]

Great quarter.

[Duncanoypi]

Go Barry....

[stéphane]

They seem really motivated on both sides of the court lets hope it'll last :)

[Slo spurs fan]

Rasho with 2 blocs in 1st qtr.

[Duncanoypi]

Prove them you're better than SJax!

[ducks]

I would love to have had AK on Spurs, = great shot blocker and can score.

coach sloan says he is a overrated blocker

[Manu20]

Nice start by Manu 11 points.
Also, Zero turnovers in the first Quarter!

[TDfan2007]

Tim w/ 2 blocks in 1 possession

:smokin

[Blazer16]

Block Party!

[Duncanoypi]

Manu will be KG-like stat tonight...

[Rummpd]

No complaints so far, Spurs seem to be playing like they did in 3rd last game or more often earlier in year.

[Duncanoypi]

benoooooooooooooooo......................

[Manu20]

Beno!!!!!!

[Slo spurs fan]

Beno with 5 pts already!

[Blazer16]

The heck! Did they give Humphries a block on Tim?

[TDfan2007]

Does Okur think he can gaurd Tim? = not quick enough

[TDfan2007]

Beno is playing really well right now

[TDfan2007]

Spurs going small again

[Rummpd]

I am very encouraged by this start, if only Spurs can keep this entire game with no letups including bench.

[Rummpd]

Bowen 3 after another strange Duncan tip in for other team. Can't fault Duncan though he is playing very aggressive.

[TDfan2007]

Tim passing up too many shots

[stéphane]

AK's really taking a few shots for the jazz...

[Rummpd]

Jazz on a mini comeback, 40-34 Spurs timeout.

[TDfan2007]

Tim's jumper looks really good right now

[TDfan2007]

Manu is owning right now

[Martin]

hello,
How can I use the gamecast?

-sorry, my english is bad-

[stéphane]

Manu is on fire :elephant :elephant :elephant :king

[TDfan2007]

Crazy move by Manu. I haven't seen him this aggressive since @ Phoenix.

[Rummpd]

Manu is going crazy 19 points and going to line!

[Blazer16]

Ginobili's on fire

[Blazer16]

Bell can't stop him

[Rummpd]

Duncan also solid tonight with 12 so far and a 12 point lead.

[TDfan2007]

Jazz are on fire

:pctoss

[Rummpd]

Martin = if you cannot get to a TV, pay the 5$ a month and sign up for Audio pass on www.nba.com - can listen to game with Spurs announcers!

[TDfan2007]

STUPID PLAY BY HORRY!!!!!!!!!!

:cuss :cuss :cuss

[Blazer16]

Spurs not playing much D

[Blazer16]

Horry foul at the buzzer?

[Blazer16]

Dang!

[Rummpd]

Three FTS at the end of the half. BS and stupid foul by Horry from Half court.


Rookie on Utah hits first, second, third. 54-50.

STUPID WAY TO END HALF. Up 12 and let it fall away. BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stéphane]

Foul on a buzzer beater three = dumb

[Slo spurs fan]

Spurs not playing much D

No Rasho=no defence! Remember?

[Manu20]

Horry foul at the buzzer?

Yes and 3 free throws for the Jazz.

[Duncanoypi]

calm down guys...we will be up by 15 after 3rd...

[Rummpd]

But this really sucks we were up 12 and had a chance to enter half with large lead and momentum and the last two minutes just sucked.

[Blazer16]

No Rasho=no defence! Remember?
:lol Agreed :lol

[Manu20]

Best stat of the first half = 2 Turnovers for the spurs and 15 assists.

[TDfan2007]

Spurs not playing much D

I would have to disagree.

We're palying pretty solid D, but the Jazz are hitting everything w/ a hand in their faces.

[Slo spurs fan]

Best stat of the first half = 2 Turnovers for the spurs and 15 assists.

And still just 4 points lead. :depressed

[Blazer16]

2 Turnovers for the spurs and 15 assists.
Pretty good.

[Slo spurs fan]

Spurs 13-14 FT at half time!?!?! :wow

[boutons]

Tony IS flat. 4 pts in 1st half, almost invisible.

Spurs shooting went cold in 2nd qtr, outrebounded, Jazz hit their shots, and got back in the game.

[Slo spurs fan]

Tony IS flat. 4 pts in 1st half, almost invisible.

Spurs shooting went cold in 2nd qtr, outrebounded, Jazz hit their shots, and got back in the game.

I think Beno was better in the first half but still played only 8 min.

[kskonn]

I bet tony comes out aggressive in 3rd. The jazz will make adjustments for Manu and that will give tony some room.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dear Raja,

Please continue to try and go at Manu Ginobili.

Sincerely,

Fans of Manu

[kskonn]

Dear Raja,

Please continue to try and go at Manu Ginobili.

Sincerely,

Fans of Manu


:lol :lol

Yes please do. Raja is starting to heat up

[kskonn]

there it is
go ginobli

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu with the four point play. Suck it Raja.

[kskonn]

The only type of offensive play ginobli has not completed yet is hitting a technical foul shot.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The Spurs offensive game plan for the rest of the game should be to give it to Manu and GTFO the way.

[Slo spurs fan]

Well, here goes the lead. :depressed

But,buttt..............but MANU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Manu Is Going For 40!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Fuckin A, the Jerry Sloan flop special is in full effect tonight.

[Slo spurs fan]

I bet tony comes out aggressive in 3rd. The jazz will make adjustments for Manu and that will give tony some room.

Sorry, Tony still sucks tonight.

[kskonn]

does AK47 lead the league in blocks?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Nice dunk Raja! :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

oh fuck, duncan hirt. i hate utah.

[kskonn]

Sorry, Tony still sucks tonight.


yea that was a bad call on my part. apologies to all.

[kskonn]

noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Manu20]

I hope Timmy is okay. :depressed

[MaNuMaNiAc]

People Don't Fucking Scare Us Like That!!!! Is He Really Hurt!!! Please Say No, Please Say No!!!

[Rummpd]

Duncan out oh no!!!!!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!

[stéphane]

Dear Tony,
Please wake up, we need you ^^

[Leo_ARG]

Don't just say "nooo", tell us what happened ok? :P

I mean, did someone hit him or he just fell?

[Slo spurs fan]

Will someone be so kind and tell us non-american losers WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH TIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Will someone be so kind and tell us non-american losers WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH TIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN SLO!!!!

[Slo spurs fan]

Someone please kick Tony in the ass. He is still sleeping.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu is just fucking ballin' tonight. Crazy!!!!!!

[stéphane]

Will someone be so kind and tell us non-american losers WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH TIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
word

[MaNuMaNiAc]

And Tony Has Woken Up!

[Slo spurs fan]

Weake up Pop. Tony is 4-12 and you have another PG on the bench you MF!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Duncan and Rasho both went up to block a shot, Duncan came down on Rasho's foot, went to the ground immediately. Went to the locker room for x-rays/check out by the team doc.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Oh, and while I'm thinking out loud, pull Tony and put in Beno. I've seen enough from Parker. Hello tony, AK47 is between you and the basket, and the dude is one of the premier shot blockers in the league. use your brain.

[Slo spurs fan]

SHIT!!!!!!! :depressed

[stéphane]

Duncan and Rasho both went up to block a shot, Duncan came down on Rasho's foot, went to the ground immediately. Went to the locker room for x-rays/check out by the team doc.
Thanx for the explanation aggie ;)

[Leo_ARG]

Looks like Manu is going for the triple double

23 pts , 7 rebs and 6 assists

[Slo spurs fan]

Thanks for Devin, Pop. :pctoss

[Amuseddaysleeper]

as soon as any news on duncan's status is found someone please post it ASAP!

[Leo_ARG]

Thanx for the explanation aggie ;)

Thanks :)...

Does it look serious?

Let's hope he is ok...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Sprained ankle for Tim, will not return.

It's Nazr time.

[Slo spurs fan]

Pop do you remember that young white boy named BENO? He is on your bench you know!

[stéphane]

Sprained ankle for Tim, will not return.

It's Nazr time.
:depressed :depressed :depressed HURTS

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Tony needs to quit trying to be the damn hero tonight. Geez, drives in the lane and tries to go one on four with Brent Barry camping out at the three point line on one side, Devin on the other.

Throws up a weak shot over Mcleod that bounces off the glass/rim.

[Manu20]

Tony and Manu need to step up big time in the 4th quarter for the spurs to win this game.

[boutons]

Tim's out, we're probably fucked.

[Dre_7]

Has beno even played?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Pop needs to play Manu and Beno together in the fourth in the backcourt.

Beno has looked solid tonight, but hasn't seen the court in the second half. Wake the hell up Pop.

Beno in the game finally. Rasho with lock down defense on Okur, forces airball to end the Utah possession.

Bowen with a jumper from the wing to start the fourth.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Beno's got five points on 2-3 shooting and 2 assists.

Rasho with the steal, throws a lead pass 50 ft. to Devin who goes in for the layup and the foul, misses the FT.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Holy shit, Rasho is possessed!! Rasho with the block, Spurs coming the other way. Beno hits the circle jumper.

Utah timeout.

FUCKING RASHO!!!!!!!!!!!

To start the fourth, on Utah's first 3 possessions we have:

* airball by Okur forced by Rasho's tight D
* steal by Rasho
* blocked shot by Rasho.

[boutons]

A steal and touddown pass, and then block by Rasho, transition jumper by Beno

freaking Slovenians destroying the Jazz

[Slo spurs fan]

Rasho already with 4 blocks! Another hit by Beno!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rasho and Beno playing pick and roll, Rasho crushes McLeod, Beno pulls up and hits the jumper.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rasho with the backdoor pass to beno, Beno scores. Hey, this Beno guy can play after all Pop.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Pop damn! Rasho knocks loose ball out of bounds off Kirilenko on defense.

Beno draws 5th foul on Borchardt.

http://www.globalgeografia.com/europa/eu_slovenia_flag.gif

Recognize, bitches.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu enters the game for Devin Brown. Aw yeah, prepare to get worked Utah....

Damn, AK47 with the three. Spurs up 6.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Udrih toying with Utah D, kicks to Bowen for the wide open three. Spurs up 9.

Rasho cleans the defensive glass.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Holy shit, AK47 stumbles backwards for five steps, refs have collective heads up asses.

Utah gets bucket and foul, Pop gets Ted up.

Fuckign A refs, it's a fast break, it's not hard to see a guy stumblign backwards with the ball not dribbling.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The refs are fucking this up bad. Harpring misses FT after ref tells players two shots.

Jump ball at center court.

[Rummpd]

Manu needs to win this game.

[Slomo]

TD update: Sprained right ankle - no details on the severity

[GrandeDavid]

Tim's out, but the Spurs are still at home against shitty Utah on Sean Elliot number night. No excuses. The Spurs must win.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu drives, draws foul on Borchardt, sixth foul for Curtis, buh bye. Manu going to the line for two, five minutes to play.

Hits the first.

Fuck, Pop puts Tony back in for Beno. Why? Pop is a dumbass.

Manu misses the second.

Manu knocks Raja on his ass, foul on Manu.

Rasho cleans the glass once again.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Tony and Rasho run the pick and roll, bullshit foul call on Rasho, Utah ball.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rasho with the steal on defense. Hell yeah. Rasho holding down the paint in the fourth.


Bowen misses jumper, Rasho taps rebound out to Tony. Manu and Horry work the pick and roll, Horry ends up with the dunk. Spurs up 7, 3:30 to play.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Popdamnit, Utah just gets away with two more travels, and offensive basket interference.

These refs blow more than Jenna Jameson on location.

[Slomo]

Harping scores after traveling. Spurs offer to pay for braille lessons for the refs!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Forget the braille, these guys need a seeing eye dog ref.

[Rummpd]

Just Announced Not A Severe Sprain = Day To Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Frenchise player]

Manu drives, draws foul on Borchardt, sixth foul for Curtis, buh bye. Manu going to the line for two, five minutes to play.

Hits the first.

Fuck, Pop puts Tony back in for Beno. Why? Pop is a dumbass.

Manu misses the second.

Manu knocks Raja on his ass, foul on Manu.

Rasho cleans the glass once again.
Because Tony is the starting PG

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yo Frenchie, I love Tony as much as the next guy, but Tony has sucked as relative to Beno tonight.

Parker: 31 minutes, 5-14 from the field, 12 points, 3 assists.
Beno: 13 minutes, 5-7 from the field, 11 points, 3 assists.

If you were watching the game, you'd agree with me.

[Rummpd]

Parker great play to Bowen.

Manu cradles rebound up 6.

but turn over = Jazz down 4.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Not to mention McLeod is lighting up Tony's ass, while Beno got us the lead we're trying to blow with Tony in right now.

Tony turns it over again.

FUCK.

[Slomo]

two consecutive TO by Spurs!

[Slo spurs fan]

Because Tony is the starting PG

WGF about that, if Beno played better this game?

[Rummpd]

Another turnover, and Jazz can only be down -

Bell hits first,

Bell hits second = 2 point game. shit.

[Leo_ARG]

Hope Manu gets the ball and finally scores a buzzer beater, I think that's the only thing I thought he would do, and still hasen't done.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damnit, Tony misses again. Fucking A Pop, take him out.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Horry bails our ass out on defense, gets a steal off the loose ball and calls timeout.

Now Okur gets away with a travel too. Fuck, why even have the rule if you're not gonna gonna call it?

[Frenchise player]

Pop trust tony, I think Tp deserve his confidence with the way he his playing lately.
Beno is having a great game, but he is just a rookie and this is a tight game, so I understand why Pop is putting back the more experienced PF for the end.

[Rummpd]

Horry steals ball, may have made up for brain lock end of half.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

espn is slowin down on me, whats the score?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You are not watching the same game as I am Frenchise.

This isn't about trust, this is about Tony playing like shit tonight while Beno was rolling. Beno has played down the stretch and won games for us this year, so the experience issue isn't valid.

I love Tony's game and the way he's been playing lately, but he shouldn't have seen the court tonight in the fourth.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurs up 4 with 30.5 to go.

[Rummpd]

Manu to line!!!! Manu good, Manu good, Manu MVP tonight.

10-11 and team 23-26 at line tonight!!!!!

[Leo_ARG]

Mmhh..does Utah have a good 3PT shooter?

[mattyc]

C'mon Spurs.

For Sean.

[Duncanoypi]

any updates about TD?...

[Amuseddaysleeper]

As of right now TD is day to day

[Frenchise player]

Manu deserved a triple-double tonight

[adrien]

You are not watching the same game as I am Frenchise.

This isn't about trust, this is about Tony playing like shit tonight while Beno was rolling. Beno has played down the stretch and won games for us this year, so the experience issue isn't valid.

I love Tony's game and the way he's been playing lately, but he shouldn't have seen the court tonight in the fourth.

I don't agree. Experience is needed in these moments, no matter what you have been doing. However, you are right to say beno should have played more in this game.

[Spurminator]

Tim, Manu and Tony are now at levels in their games where they should be in the game at the end regardless of how they've played that game. Tony is rolling right now (up until tonight) and you don't want to break his confidence by benching him in the fourth quarter of a regular season game against the Utah Jazz.

If we lose, we lose, but Tony's got to know he's a leader now and a good chunk of the Spurs' fate rests in his hands.

[Slo spurs fan]

Manu saved what Pop almost fucked up.

[Rummpd]

25-28 line AWESOME

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Where did experience get Tony all game tonight? McLeod was lighting his ass up at both ends.

Jesus Christ, what did experience get us a few years back in the playoffs when Terry Porter and all the old people with "experience" were fucking it up vs. LA?

Beno has played entire fourth quarters for us earlier this year leading the team to victory no less, the "experience" argument is a retarded one.

You go with the hot hand, and tonight it's Beno. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

[Leo_ARG]

Well looks like they sealed the deal with those FTs...

:) Another win for the Spurs.

[Frenchise player]

experience= 2Ft to close the game

[adrien]

Where did experience get Tony all game tonight? McLeod was lighting his ass up at both ends.

Jesus Christ, what did experience get us a few years back in the playoffs when Terry Porter and all the old people with "experience" were fucking it up vs. LA?

Beno has played entire fourth quarters for us earlier this year leading the team to victory no less, the "experience" argument is a retarded one.

You go with the hot hand, and tonight it's Beno. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

would beno have hit those two FTs at the end of the game ? Not sure...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Raja Bell is a punk ass little bitch (sorta like Walton).

Manu hits four free throws in the last minute to ice it. Thank you very much.

[Slomo]

Is it just me or is Bell enjoying fouling Manu too much?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

not so fast, AK47 with the 3! SPurs need to hit an Ft to seal it

[Rummpd]

27-30 line and MANU hero of game.

[Slo spurs fan]

Manu saved what Pop almost fucked up.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

would beno have hit those two FTs ? Not sure...

If Beno was still in, Tony wouldn't have had the chance to blow the 9 point lead we built up with Beno at point.

In short, we wouldn't be shooting FTs with the game on the line.

LOOK, Tony is a great player. I am still bitter he didn't make the A-S game. But tonight Beno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony, and I don't see why we are even having this discussion.

Oh, and Jerry Sloan is a dick. Spurs up 7 with one second left, and you call timeout? Fuck you Jerry Sloan.

[stéphane]

Where did experience get Tony all game tonight? McLeod was lighting his ass up at both ends.

Jesus Christ, what did experience get us a few years back in the playoffs when Terry Porter and all the old people with "experience" were fucking it up vs. LA?

Beno has played entire fourth quarters for us earlier this year leading the team to victory no less, the "experience" argument is a retarded one.

You go with the hot hand, and tonight it's Beno. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
the hot hand is Manu tonight :) so whatever PG feed him ;)

[Spurminator]

It's not about experience, it's about grooming Tony into a leader and a clutch performer. It's about letting him know that he's too mature now to have a Speedy Claxton save his ass when he's playing poorly. That's more important than one game.

You go with the hot hand if it means putting Bowen or Rasho on the bench, but we live and we die by Tony, Manu and Tim.

[Jimcs50]

Spurs shoot over 90% from FT line in a game that TD misses most of, coincidence? Hardly. :)

[Slo spurs fan]

would beno have hit those two FTs at the end of the game ? Not sure...

Beno IS way better FT shooter than TP.

[Jimcs50]

Spurs are what 41-0 when they score over 100? Awesome!!!

[adrien]

Beno IS way better FT shooter than TP.

In the 2nd quarter yes but with 18 sec left in the 4th?

[chaco]

ON COURT MIN FG 3P FT REB AST STL BLK PF PTS
M Ginobili 35 7-11 3-4 14-15 8 7 1 0 4 31

Manu Again !!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's not about experience, it's about grooming Tony into a leader and a clutch performer. It's about letting him know that he's too mature now to have a Speedy Claxton save his ass when he's playing poorly. That's more important than one game.


If we're still having to do all that psychobabble shit with Tony, we've got problems.



You go with the hot hand if it means putting Bowen or Rasho on the bench, but we live and we die by Tony, Manu and Tim.

Tonight we almost died by Tony's. You go with the hot hand *no matter* who it is and who they are playing the same position as.

Basketball 101, go with the hot hand until they are no longer hot.

[Frenchise player]

If Beno was still in, Tony wouldn't have had the chance to blow the 9 point lead we built up with Beno at point.

In short, we wouldn't be shooting FTs with the game on the line.

LOOK, Tony is a great player. I am still bitter he didn't make the A-S game. But tonight Beno >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony, and I don't see why we are even having this discussion.

Oh, and Jerry Sloan is a dick. Spurs up 7 with one second left, and you call timeout? Fuck you Jerry Sloan.
83-87: Parker enters the game
94-101: end of the game

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

In the 2nd quarter yes but with 18 sec left in the 4th?

Quit being such an idiot. Beno has finished games and hit shots/FTs earlier this year to win it.

With all the hate and juvenile "Beno can't hit FTs better than Tony" shit, you must be French too.

[Leo_ARG]

Game leaders:

Utah
Pts Reb Ast
McLeod 18 Bell 8 McLeod 8

San Antonio
Pts Reb Ast
Ginobili 31 Ginobili 8 Ginobili 7

xD

[Frenchise player]

If we're still having to do all that psychobabble shit with Tony, we've got problems.



Tonight we almost died by Tony's. You go with the hot hand *no matter* who it is and who they are playing the same position as.

Basketball 101, go with the hot hand until they are no longer hot.
Manu always play well in the 4th even if he plays badly before.
Do we must bench him for the entire 4th if he played like shit in the begining of the game?

[stéphane]

If we're still having to do all that psychobabble shit with Tony, we've got problems.



Tonight we almost died by Tony's. You go with the hot hand *no matter* who it is and who they are playing the same position as.

Basketball 101, go with the hot hand until they are no longer hot.
I understand what you're saying for sure but you have TD 5/15 5rbs and Horry 7/8 8rbds and a game tie.... you bench TD?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

94-101: end of the game

At the one minute mark, it was 93-91. In the last minute you had:

* missed Tony jumper
* Six Manu FTs
* two Tony FTs

Wow, Tony had one hell of an impact there.

[Slo spurs fan]

Manu always play well in the 4th even if he plays badly before.
Do we must bench him for the entire 4th if he played like shit in the begining of the game?

Yes IF his substitution player played way better than he was.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I understand what you're saying for sure but you have TD 5/15 5rbs and Horry 7/8 8rbds and a game tie.... you bench TD?

I put them on the court together.

[Spurminator]

If we're still having to do all that psychobabble shit with Tony, we've got problems.

It's not psycho babble, it's how you use star-level players.


Tonight we almost died by Tony's. You go with the hot hand *no matter* who it is and who they are playing the same position as.

Basketball 101, go with the hot hand until they are no longer hot.

So if Tim Duncan is cold you close the game with Horry and Rasho? Bull. Only Don Nelson would pull something like that.

If we lose because of Tony, it's a learning experience he can take with him to the next game, and into his future as the Spurs starting Point Guard and floor leader.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manu always play well in the 4th even if he plays badly before.
Do we must bench him for the entire 4th if he played like shit in the begining of the game?

Depends on what whoever else is running at his position is doing. Tonight, Beno >>>>>>>> Tony at *both ends*.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So if Tim Duncan is cold you close the game with Horry and Rasho?

If they're both playing well, yes.

Bad example Spurminator, I've watched us blow many a game because Pop continued to force it into Duncan when he was having a 5-18 night.

[adrien]

Quit being such an idiot. Beno has finished games and hit shots/FTs earlier this year to win it.

With all the hate and juvenile "Beno can't hit FTs better than Tony" shit, you must be French too.

I don't remember beno hitting clutch shots or fts this season.

I am not saying that TP had a great game, he was really shitty tonight and we know he still sometimes can be. I am just saying that Pop was right to put him on in the final minutes.
Would u put Duncan or Gino off inthe last minutes because they had a bad game ? Sure u wont...

PS: I am french and i dont give a shit it bothers u

[stéphane]

I put them on the court together.
:spin smart answer ;)
so get my opinion about tonight as TD was off :)

[Frenchise player]

At the one minute mark, it was 93-91. In the last minute you had:

* missed Tony jumper
* Six Manu FTs
* two Tony FTs

Wow, Tony had one hell of an impact there.
1) it was a fourth point lead.
2) we were leading by two points because we commited 3 TO and none of them was Tp reponsability.
3) Tp had more impact in this time than 3 of 5 Spurs players

[Spurminator]

More future games are going to come down to Tony Parker than Beno Udrih. You put him out there at the end of the game and you make him figure out a way to win the game.

Benching him is coddling. He can handle the pressure,... and if he can't, he needs to learn.

[adrien]

I also would have put the two (beno and TP) of them on the court at the end

[Spurminator]

If they're both playing well, yes.

Bad example Spurminator, I've watched us blow many a game because Pop continued to force it into Duncan when he was having a 5-18 night.


Well, then I'm probably wasting my time... we'll have to agree to disagree. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone else in this forum who would bench Tim Duncan at the end of the game because Robert Horry was hitting a few shots.

In the last minutes of the game, it doesn't matter what you've done in the previous 46. I want my best players out there. You don't have to force plays to Duncan or Tony if they're cold, but you'd still want them out there to keep defenses on notice.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

1. No, it was two points. Damn.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=250306024&period=4


1:10 Raja Bell made Free Throw 2 of 2. 91-93
1:10 San Antonio Full Timeout.
0:56 91-93 Tony Parker missed running jumper.
0:54 Mehmet Okur defensive rebound. 91-93

2. Wrong again. We had a total of TWO turnovers the last five minutes of the game.

3. That's not saying very much. Manu saved our ass, PERIOD. Don't even try to give any credit to Tony, unless it's for staying out of Manu's way.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well, then I'm probably wasting my time... we'll have to agree to disagree. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone else in this forum who would bench Tim Duncan at the end of the game because Robert Horry was hitting a few shots.

In the last minutes of the game, it doesn't matter what you've done in the previous 46. I want my best players out there. You don't have to force plays to Duncan or Tony if they're cold, but you'd still want them out there to keep defenses on notice.

This is the same dumbass attitude as Pop has used to blow countless games, including two playoff series to LA.

[1Parker1]

Get over it. You don't put a rookie in a close game situation like this, no mater how "hot" he is playing that night. If Tim Duncan was having an off night, and Robert Horry was "hot", would you BENCH Tim Duncan in the closing minutes of a close game? If you say YES, then your'e crazy.

There is a lot to be said for experience and confidence and faith in your starting line-up. There's a reason why Tony got the starting PG position for a top team. I would hope that with the experience he has had, he would be able to use it in situations like this and still come up a) a solid play/assist b) a clutch shot c) handle the ball and play Defense.

PS. GO MANU!! AWESOME GAME :) I hope he can carry it over to Tues and Wed.

[ShoogarBear]

AHF , aren't you the guy that always wants Manu in there in the fourth, no matter what he's been doing the rest of the game?

[Frenchise player]

1. No, it was two points. Damn.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=250306024&period=4



2. Wrong again. We had a total of TWO turnovers the last five minutes of the game.

3. That's not saying very much. Manu saved our ass, PERIOD. Don't even try to give any credit to Tony, unless it's for staying out of Manu's way.
1)I was talking about when tony entered the game: 5:12 Spurs 87 jazz 83, that was not a 9 point lead as you were posting earlier.
2) You are right :king. But I must add that before the 2 TO Parker had a steal and an assist to Bowen (18 points, he also deserves credits).
3) look in the other threads, I completly agree that Manu was the best player and I know Tony had a bad game.
I am just saying that Pop was right putting him back to finish the game.

[adrien]

1)I was talking about when tony entered the game: 5:12 Spurs 87 jazz 83, that was not a 9 point lead as you were posting earlier.
2) You are right :king. But I must add that before the 2 TO Parker had a steal and an assist to Bowen (18 points, he also deserves credits).
3) look in the other threads, I completly agree that Manu was the best player and I know Tony had a bad game.
I am just saying that Pop was right putting him back to finish the game.

cherche pas, il veut rien comprendre
Dont bother he doesn't want to understand

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Shoogar,

Yes, and I think Manu has more than proven that he deserves to be there at the end. Tony is getting to that point, but I don't think he's necessarily at that point yet where no matter what you play him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Wow, you got me talking French. Such a big man, speaking in a foreign language.

I believe Rasho and Beno would say Yeb vas to that one.

[1Parker1]

Tony has come up just as clutch in 4th quarter games this season as Manu and shown he deserves to be there till the end. How quickly you forget his clutch shot vs. Clippers at the SBC center or his perfect pick and roll pass to the open Duncan vs the Cavs and even today he came in and hit those 2 clutch FT's in a tight game, even though he wasn't having his best offensive game of the season.

Spurs fans are very tough critics. Once a player has an off night, people forget what he has done previously.

[ShoogarBear]

So, then there's one rule for Manu and another one for everyone else, including Tim?

[E20]

Tony and Manu can do it. Manu is just a little bit more experienced than Tony but, Tony is catching up BTW he's only 22 years old imagine how good he's gonna be at his prime. Close games the line should be Duncan Horry Parker Ginobili Barry

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'd say so.

I've seen Manu play like ass for three quarters and then go nuts down the stretch, he just knows how to win.

I can probably count the number of times Tim has played great down the stretch after having a bad first three quarters on one hand.

Tony's getting better at it, but tonight was not one of those nights, and Beno should have got the nod.

[E20]

For past two games Manu really went UP in 4th quarter scoring, +10 in the final periods for both of the games.

[Frenchise player]

Sorry AHF, I have some trouble to talk in english and I have no clue about Slovenian, so I don't understand anything of your last post.

[ShoogarBear]

So now Manu > Tim, despite all that Tim's done?

Sorry, but when it comes to Manu people around here just tend to lose any sense of objectivity.

[1Parker1]

^^Why, Horry? He honestly hasn't done shit to show his clutchness or to show he deserves it. I'd rather have Rasho, at least he plays D.

[E20]

Chances are Pop will put in Horry so I just go with can't change Pop.

No one has said that Manu > Tim.

[1Parker1]

So now Manu > Tim, despite all that Tim's done?

Sorry, but when it comes to Manu people around here just tend to lose any sense of objectivity.

Great going Shoogar! Now the Manu followers are going to come after you :lol

[adrien]

^^Why, Horry? He honestly hasn't done shit to show his clutchness or to show he deserves it. I'd rather have Rasho, at least he plays D.

I agree with that.
He never showed his clutchness since playing with the spurs

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm not trying to discount Tim or take anything away from what he's done, but at the end of the games I want the ball in Manu's hands.

Every once in a while, that may change and I may say make Duncan the first priority, but all things being equal I'd rather have Manu with the ball at the top of the key with the clock winding down.

[adrien]

I'm not trying to discount Tim or take anything away from what he's done, but at the end of the games I want the ball in Manu's hands.

Every once in a while, that may change and I may say make Duncan the first priority, but all things being equal I'd rather have Manu with the ball at the top of the key with the clock winding down.

It depends if the spurs have the lead or not...
spurs winning: manu
Spurs losing: TD

[ShoogarBear]

Great going Shoogar! Now the Manu followers are going to come after you :lol

The Church of Manu identified me as a heathenous infidel a long time ago.

I think one time I said he might not be the greatest player who ever lived or ever will live, and all hell broke loose.

[1Parker1]

HAHAHA. It's ok, they already think I'm a traitor to all basketball-kind since I attend the Church of Tony :)

[Frenchise player]

I see Tony and Manu much more as two mafia godfathers than as bishops

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You know, people did the same shit when Manu had an off game with like 7 TOs. Now its with Tony. Why don't you guys just SHUT THE FUCK UP and enjoy the win why don't ya. Jesus, both Tony and Manu fans make this way too fucking personal, get a fucking life, they will BOTH have off games, GET USED TO IT!!