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Spurs Brazil
02-18-2009, 02:44 PM
The Bucks would love to get rid of Richard Jefferson and are reportedly talking to the Blazers and Spurs about the swingman.

Portland has reportedly been looking for a small forward, and general manager Kevin Pritchard has Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract to use in a trade.

Via ESPN
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57348/20090218/bucks_discussing_rj_with_blazers_spurs/

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-090218

EricB
02-18-2009, 02:46 PM
God wheres the puke icon.

That being said from the way it reads it looks like the Bucks pretty much saying "Please take him"

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 02:46 PM
Udoka, Vaughn, Oberto, Finley, Horry for RJ.

EricB
02-18-2009, 02:48 PM
Udoka, Vaughn, Oberto, Finley, Horry for RJ.

He is not worth 4 players off the roster.

No.

wisnub
02-18-2009, 02:49 PM
Udoka, Vaughn, Oberto, Finley, Horry for RJ.

Sounds like a plan...RJ can be the one impact player before Spurs reach perfection....i mean Pop admit that Spurs is one impact player away for ensuring another championship. Judging from how Lakers and Celtics perform,obviously anything can happen in the playoffs...that might seal the deal

nkdlunch
02-18-2009, 02:51 PM
I'd take RJ for a few of our scrubs. It's a no brainer

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 02:52 PM
He is not worth 4 players off the roster.

No.

Well from those 4 only Finley plays while other 3 don't even step on the court... I know it's a lot of players, but this are the worst players we could give up on... We could also trade Mason, Oberto and Vaughn, Horry, but I gues that we all like Mason much more than all of those 4 players.

timvp
02-18-2009, 02:53 PM
I've always thought RJ was a bit underrated but this year he hasn't looked as good as usual. Although he has been playing better lately.

jcrod
02-18-2009, 02:55 PM
RJ would be a nice player on the Spurs.

Bartleby
02-18-2009, 02:57 PM
Aside from his bad knees and his big contract, RJ wouldn't be a bad pickup if the Spurs didn't have to give up anybody valuable. His production has been pretty solid this year--in fact, his numbers are almost identical to Josh Howard's except that RJ is much more accurate on 3's. He's not the player he used to be, but he would fill a need for a SF who can score.

galvatron3000
02-18-2009, 02:58 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae3vpp

Kurt is used to rep Horry. Hopefully Bowen and Mason would be waived. I'm sure Bowen would be, Udoka's contract runs out so doubtful plus Spurs are more than likely shopping him. Bowen would surely be back but the Bucks probably want to keep Mason.

Bonner
Duncan
Jefferson
Bowen or Ginobili (Finley)
Parker

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 02:59 PM
This year he averages 18 pts, 5 reb., 2,3 ast..... He shoots the ball 3% worse from last season, but he's shooting the 3 better (41%).

If we can't get Wallace or Vince I'd say we should really get him.

raspsa
02-18-2009, 02:59 PM
If you give upOberto, that'sone less big// do the Spurs really want to do that? He may still be useful later on even if he isn't getting minutes now.. Spurs are size-challeneged enough as is.

timvp
02-18-2009, 03:00 PM
The Spurs don't really have enough expiring/semi-expiring contracts to make the trade work smoothly. Holt would have to eat some luxury dollars.

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 03:01 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae3vpp

Kurt is used to rep Horry. Hopefully Bowen and Mason would be waived. I'm sure Bowen would be, Udoka's contract runs out so doubtful plus Spurs are more than likely shopping him. Bowen would surely be back but the Bucks probably want to keep Mason.

Bonner
Duncan
Jefferson
Bowen or Ginobili (Finley)
Parker

I'd rather give them Oberto and Vaughn and leave Thomas here. He's playing pretty good so far, while Oberto pretty much sucks.

nkdlunch
02-18-2009, 03:01 PM
If you give upOberto, that'sone less big// do the Spurs really want to do that? He may still be useful later on even if he isn't getting minutes now.. Spurs are size-challeneged enough as is.

no we would obviously need to still go for a big. trade or sign.

RJ can't be IT

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 03:02 PM
We can still sign Pops Mensah-Bonsu if we trade Fab.

galvatron3000
02-18-2009, 03:02 PM
I'd rather give them Oberto and Vaughn and leave Thomas here. He's playing pretty good so far, while Oberto pretty much sucks.

Kurt is a representation of RObert Horry

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 03:03 PM
Kurt is a representation of RObert Horry

oh sorry...Didn't read the whole thing.:hat

DPG21920
02-18-2009, 03:03 PM
The Spurs don't really have enough expiring/semi-expiring contracts to make the trade work smoothly. Holt would have to eat some luxury dollars.

It seems like the Spurs are going to have to do this no matter what pretty much. That is why it is a "buyers" market. You can get the players you want, but you have to eat salary.

Buddy Holly
02-18-2009, 03:04 PM
He is not worth 4 players off the roster.

No.

If those four players are Udoka, Vaughn, Oberto and Finley... HE IS.

jcrod
02-18-2009, 03:04 PM
The Spurs don't really have enough expiring/semi-expiring contracts to make the trade work smoothly. Holt would have to eat some luxury dollars.


That is why ultimatly all this talk is BS.

LockBeard
02-18-2009, 03:05 PM
I'm confused. He is not 7' tall....

Bartleby
02-18-2009, 03:06 PM
It seems like the Spurs are going to have to do this no matter what pretty much. That is why it is a "buyers" market. You can get the players you want, but you have to eat salary.

Considering Tim left money on the table for the Spurs to sign players who could help him, one would think they sort of owe it to him to take a financial hit once in a while.

Mr. Body
02-18-2009, 03:06 PM
He's expensive and not quite the caliber of VC or Sheed, but if all it takes is scrubs... I guess you have to do it.

timvp
02-18-2009, 03:08 PM
He's expensive and not quite the caliber of VC or Sheed, but if all it takes is scrubs... I guess you have to do it.Yeah, if other options fall through and the Spurs are desperate ... RJ is a good fallback option as long as Holt is willing to get his hands dirty.

timvp
02-18-2009, 03:09 PM
It seems like the Spurs are going to have to do this no matter what pretty much. That is why it is a "buyers" market. You can get the players you want, but you have to eat salary.There's a difference between eating salary and lux tax dollars . . .

DPG21920
02-18-2009, 03:10 PM
I think RJ for the Spurs along with the big 3 is >>>> than VC. I have long wanted this guy at the SF spot. He could be deadly.

DPG21920
02-18-2009, 03:11 PM
There's a difference between eating salary and lux tax dollars . . .

That is what I meant. They are going into the lux tax if they are going to do a deal like this. I just do not see another way around it. Unless it is for Sheed. But VC, Salmons, RJ all will require lots of $ tied up in 4 dudes.

kobyz
02-18-2009, 03:12 PM
RJ is going to the Blazers. the Spurs rumor is the way of the Bucks to put pressure on the Blazers and meybe to get more for him.
RJ to the Spurs would be fantastic, but the Spurs doesn't have enough value to give for him.

coyotes_geek
02-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Hard to see a way to make this work without Horry jumping on board. And since someone has to bring it up, if the Spurs do decide to put together a deal with the Bucks, don't they kinda have to ask for Elson too???

DPG21920
02-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Also, if Manu is seriously injured, that rules out any trade that involves Mason imo.

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Will thist thread reach 40 pages? :rollin

angel_luv
02-18-2009, 03:14 PM
Udoka, Vaughn, Oberto, Finley, Horry for RJ.

I like Richard Jefferson. He could be the newest recruit in our "Sign with the Spurs Get a Ring" Progam

Deal. :)

Bartleby
02-18-2009, 03:15 PM
RJ is going to the Blazers. the Spurs rumor is the way of the Bucks to put pressure on the Blazers and meybe to get more for him.
RJ to the Spurs would be fantastic, but the Spurs doesn't have enough value to give for him.

And if Portland is offering Outlaw it's a no-brainer.

George Gervin's Afro
02-18-2009, 03:18 PM
with all due respect to the players, why would anybody be interesed in our 8,9,10,and 11th rotation players? especially if they don't have expiring contracts?

George Gervin's Afro
02-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Hard to see a way to make this work without Horry jumping on board. And since someone has to bring it up, if the Spurs do decide to put together a deal with the Bucks, don't they kinda have to ask for Elson too???

:(

Texas_Ranger
02-18-2009, 03:19 PM
with all due respect to the players, why would anybody be interesed in our 8,9,10,and 11th rotation players? especially if they don't have expiring contracts?

why would the Grizzlies be interested in Kwame Brown?:blah

Bartleby
02-18-2009, 03:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_West

Buddy Holly
02-18-2009, 03:21 PM
but the Spurs doesn't have enough value to give for him.

The Bucks want t dump RJ badly. They could care what they get in return as long as they're expiring type.

Buddy Holly
02-18-2009, 03:23 PM
TIMVP or anyone, what is the most the Spurs could sign Horry to?

George Gervin's Afro
02-18-2009, 03:24 PM
The Bucks want t dump RJ badly. They could care what they get in return as long as they're expiring type.

We are NEVER this lucky when trading players

wisnub
02-18-2009, 03:24 PM
The Spurs don't really have enough expiring/semi-expiring contracts to make the trade work smoothly. Holt would have to eat some luxury dollars.

Let Holt eat some tax dollars...I saw Jerry Buzz chewing luxury tax any day and he didnt seems to care about it as long as his team got winning chance and kobe smiling. But if Holt is cheaper than him (which i think he is,instructed Bufford to cut budget) than I got nothing more to say...its not my money anyway. But this is opportunity that if we missed it will took another more year to gain it back, but once cheap will always stay like that..

benefactor
02-18-2009, 03:27 PM
Nothing to see here...again.

mountainballer
02-18-2009, 03:57 PM
the numbers problems aside, there is one point about Jefferson, that is very intriguing. compared to other discussed wings (VC, Salmons) Jefferson has a big size advantage. I don't know why he is sometimes just listed at 6'7'', he measured 6'7''1/2 without shoes at the 2001 pre draft camp (6'8''1/2 in shoes) with a 7'' wingspan. that's exactly the same numbers like Lebron.
with that size and his great athleticism he would be more than capable to also play the small ball PF and defend PFs like West and Odom, who gave us match up problems. sure, this doesn't solve the need for a real big, but it would give us a very nice additional option, especially when playing the Lakers. (and of course for the case of a Cavs vs. Spurs finals)

coyotes_geek
02-18-2009, 04:00 PM
up to the max! We own his bird rights

True, but anything over $4.2 makes him BYC and that screws everything up.

Chomag
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
My Gawd! That deadline wont come here soon enough. I'm one of those that is wishing for a move of some kind by the Spurs, but this rumor crap has just completely gotten out of hand. Trade or no trade, I'm ready for it to end so we can move on . :downspin:

xtremesteven33
02-18-2009, 04:08 PM
1. Sheed
2. Carter
3. Jefferson


On my wish list

urunobili
02-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Nocioni > Jefferson for the Spurs...

crc21209
02-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Jefferson would be a great pickup for the Spurs, but can not give up Hill and Mason for him. Jefferson can slash to the basket, finish at the rim, has a midrange J, a somewhat ok 3 pt shot, and plays D well. Do it!

TheSpursFNRule
02-18-2009, 04:16 PM
This would be great. Hopefully VC goes to the Blazers and Jefferson comes to San Antonio. I still wonder if there is any truth/chance to this....

Bruno
02-18-2009, 04:34 PM
Oberto + Bowen + Mason for RJ works well contract wise.

TheProfessor
02-18-2009, 04:34 PM
I've had enough of the trade deadline roller-coaster.

Spursfan092120
02-18-2009, 04:35 PM
Oberto + Bowen + Mason for RJ works well contract wise.
We can get away without putting Mason in there..I don't want to lose Mason if we don't have to..him or Hill...

crc21209
02-18-2009, 04:36 PM
Hell no do not give up Mason. You can get RJ without Mason and Hill, cmon FO, do it!

crc21209
02-18-2009, 04:40 PM
The San Antonio Spurs’ delay to release any specific information about Manu Ginobili’s right ankle injury has led some opposing GMs to speculate that the injury could be serious. Delaying the announcement until after the Thursday trade deadline would help keep the Spurs from losing any leverage in their ongoing talks.

Spurs officials announced only that Ginobili won’t join them on their road trip and their medical staff continues to study test results on Ginobili’s ankle.

In addition to pursuing Sacramento King’s swingman John Salmons and the New Jersey Nets’ Vince Carter, the Spurs expressed interest in Milwaukee Bucks forward Richard Jefferson while acknowledging there’s little chance of landing Jefferson.

Bruce Bowen has offered in nearly every trade discussion because he’s guaranteed only $2 million next season. Center Fabricio Oberto also has a partial guarantee of $1.9 million next season.

The Spurs didn’t announce Ginobili wasn’t accompanying them on their trip until Monday when they were already in New York. Though Ginobili scored 32 points in a loss to the Toronto Raptors, the Spurs’ final game before the All-Star break, team officials say he had been experiencing pain in his right ankle for a while.

The Milwaukee Bucks have told teams their closer to moving Richard Jefferson to the Portland Trail Blazers for a package that includes Travis Outlaw and Raef LaFrentz, one Eastern Conference executive said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgE8A9l3iVfs2FOXJZO6Ce05nYcB?slug=aw-tradebuzz021709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

lefty
02-18-2009, 04:41 PM
Oberto + Bowen + Mason for RJ works well contract wise.

Aaargh; you want to send the best perimeter defender and a clutch shooter ????


No, no, no , nooooooooooooooo

SenorSpur
02-18-2009, 04:49 PM
The San Antonio Spurs’ delay to release any specific information about Manu Ginobili’s right ankle injury has led some opposing GMs to speculate that the injury could be serious. Delaying the announcement until after the Thursday trade deadline would help keep the Spurs from losing any leverage in their ongoing talks.

Spurs officials announced only that Ginobili won’t join them on their road trip and their medical staff continues to study test results on Ginobili’s ankle.

In addition to pursuing Sacramento King’s swingman John Salmons and the New Jersey Nets’ Vince Carter, the Spurs expressed interest in Milwaukee Bucks forward Richard Jefferson while acknowledging there’s little chance of landing Jefferson.

Bruce Bowen has offered in nearly every trade discussion because he’s guaranteed only $2 million next season. Center Fabricio Oberto also has a partial guarantee of $1.9 million next season.

The Spurs didn’t announce Ginobili wasn’t accompanying them on their trip until Monday when they were already in New York. Though Ginobili scored 32 points in a loss to the Toronto Raptors, the Spurs’ final game before the All-Star break, team officials say he had been experiencing pain in his right ankle for a while.

The Milwaukee Bucks have told teams their closer to moving Richard Jefferson to the Portland Trail Blazers for a package that includes Travis Outlaw and Raef LaFrentz, one Eastern Conference executive said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgE8A9l3iVfs2FOXJZO6Ce05nYcB?slug=aw-tradebuzz021709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Bad sign with respect to Ginobili. It could very well be that his ankle situation is more serious than we know.

As for the possible Jefferson signing, I like it. Even more so than the possible Vince Carter signing. Problem is RJ's contract is just as expensive. Here's the breakdown:

2008
$13,200,000

2009
$14,200,000

2010
$15,000,000

That tells me that if the Spurs do this, then I'm convinced Manu's time and playing days here could be numbered. There's no way the Spurs can pay double-digit millions to four players.

mountainballer
02-18-2009, 04:51 PM
jesus, thx for the deadline. if this goes on for some more days people would start to claim that the only acceptable deal for an all star player is a package of Ime, JV and the draft rights for Karaulov.

Bruno
02-18-2009, 04:55 PM
Aaargh; you want to send the best perimeter defender and a clutch shooter ????


No, no, no , nooooooooooooooo

In this scenario, Bowen will likely be waived and come back 30 days later.

Given that Oberto doesn't play, it is basically Mason for RJ.

SenorSpur
02-18-2009, 04:56 PM
Since the Bucks are in the giving mood, tell them that we'll take Luc Mbah a Moute too. :lol

lefty
02-18-2009, 04:59 PM
In this scenario, Bowen will likely be waived and come back 30 days later.

Given that Oberto doesn't play, it is basically Mason for RJ.

Ah yes, you're right about Bowen.

But Mason is a clutch MOFO

I would rather keep Mason

EricB
02-18-2009, 05:03 PM
In this scenario, Bowen will likely be waived and come back 30 days later.

Given that Oberto doesn't play, it is basically Mason for RJ.


Tough decision, but I might do it, because of Jefferson's ability to slash to the basket.

SanAntonioSpurs23
02-18-2009, 05:03 PM
F*** it let's just wait for Sheed in the offseason :)

benefactor
02-18-2009, 05:05 PM
In this scenario, Bowen will likely be waived and come back 30 days later.

Given that Oberto doesn't play, it is basically Mason for RJ.
But does this really make us a lot better?

coyotes_geek
02-18-2009, 05:06 PM
F*** it let's just wait for Sheed in the offseason :)

I think that's where we're headed. No deadline deal, Spurs have to make do with what they've got this year. Then make a run at sheed this offseason.

Spursfan092120
02-18-2009, 05:11 PM
F*** it let's just wait for Sheed in the offseason :)

:toast

tav1
02-18-2009, 05:12 PM
The San Antonio Spurs’ delay to release any specific information about Manu Ginobili’s right ankle injury has led some opposing GMs to speculate that the injury could be serious. Delaying the announcement until after the Thursday trade deadline would help keep the Spurs from losing any leverage in their ongoing talks.

Spurs officials announced only that Ginobili won’t join them on their road trip and their medical staff continues to study test results on Ginobili’s ankle.

In addition to pursuing Sacramento King’s swingman John Salmons and the New Jersey Nets’ Vince Carter, the Spurs expressed interest in Milwaukee Bucks forward Richard Jefferson while acknowledging there’s little chance of landing Jefferson.

Bruce Bowen has offered in nearly every trade discussion because he’s guaranteed only $2 million next season. Center Fabricio Oberto also has a partial guarantee of $1.9 million next season.

The Spurs didn’t announce Ginobili wasn’t accompanying them on their trip until Monday when they were already in New York. Though Ginobili scored 32 points in a loss to the Toronto Raptors, the Spurs’ final game before the All-Star break, team officials say he had been experiencing pain in his right ankle for a while.

The Milwaukee Bucks have told teams their closer to moving Richard Jefferson to the Portland Trail Blazers for a package that includes Travis Outlaw and Raef LaFrentz, one Eastern Conference executive said.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgE8A9l3iVfs2FOXJZO6Ce05nYcB?slug=aw-tradebuzz021709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I actually hope the Blazers deal happens. That takes them out of the running for VC.

I doubt NJ trades Carter to Cleveland; it doesn't help them one iota assist LeBron in winning championships in Cleveland. The T-Mac injury makes Houston a wild card, but I'm inclined to think it hurts their chances of landing Carter. That brings this down to Dallas and San Antonio. I hope San Antonio bites the bullet and makes it happen.

Spursfan092120
02-18-2009, 05:13 PM
OK seriously...let's just forget about the trade deadline this year, bring up Pops, and wait for Sheed next year..period.

objective
02-18-2009, 05:14 PM
RJ is worse than VC and makes nearly as much.

But get what you can, I guess.

Still, I'd rather them hold on to what they have then desperately blow things up like the Mavs did last year in some quixotic fever dream that this is the move that will win them the title.

If it's not going to happen this year, it's not going to happen. No need to mortgage the future on player who make more than TP and Manu.

ManuTP9
02-18-2009, 05:16 PM
OK seriously...let's just forget about the trade deadline this year, bring up Pops, and wait for Sheed next year..period.

i agree and we might and there is a possibility to win a championship this year with the people we have you never know, ill wait for sheed

HarlemHeat37
02-18-2009, 05:21 PM
it's funny that the same people that don't want Vince for Mason or Hill, want RJ for the same deal..RJ is worse than Vince in every aspect of basketball..EVERY aspect..

regardless, I'd take him on our team..

whoever we make a run at will depend on Portland..

Manufan909
02-18-2009, 07:20 PM
Jefferson would be a great pickup for the Spurs, but can not give up Hill and Mason for him. Jefferson can slash to the basket, finish at the rim, has a midrange J, a somewhat ok 3 pt shot, and plays D well. Do it!

41% is somewhat ok???????? What is Bonner then, pretty decent?:wow

HarlemHeat37
02-18-2009, 07:32 PM
Jefferson playing good D is a huge misconception..he hasn't played D in 3 years..so if we call Vince out for that, you have to call RJ out as well..

if it's between them, it's Vince easily..I don't think we'll get either though..

Universe
02-18-2009, 07:43 PM
Richard would be a great pickup. If he went back to playing like his early years, it will be the best deal of the deadline.

TheSpursFNRule
02-18-2009, 07:48 PM
POSTED: Feb. 18 -- 6:08 p.m. ET

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nba/players/65/1006.jpg
Jefferson

Chad Ford: Two days ago, it looked as though the Trail Blazers, armed with Raef LaFrentz (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=454)'s expiring contract, would make some noise at the trade deadline. However, as of Wednesday afternoon, it is still unclear what, if anything, the Blazers will do.
Sources say the Bobcats turned down a Blazers offer for Gerald Wallace (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1026) on Wednesday afternoon. Sources also say the Vince Carter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=136)-to-Blazers talk has cooled considerably.
That means the most likely trade scenario for the Blazers would be a deal with Milwaukee for Richard Jefferson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1006). The teams previously discussed swapping Jefferson and Luke Ridnour (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1985) for LaFrentz and Travis Outlaw (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2015).
Although there was significant chatter around the league Wednesday afternoon that Portland was closing in on a deal for Jefferson, sources from both teams insist it isn't true. In fact, a Bucks source told ESPN.com that Milwaukee hasn't heard from the Blazers in a while.
Another source conceded Wednesday afternoon that there's a chance the Blazers might not do anything before the trade deadline. Instead, they would take the savings from LaFrentz's contract and try to make a deal in free agency during the summer. Although the Blazers won't be flush with cash, they should have somewhere between $7-9 million in cap room, depending on where the cap comes in.

coyotes_geek
02-18-2009, 07:49 PM
From the Realgm wiretap...

************

Carter To Portland Outline Taking Shape

The Nets and Blazers have been discussing a Vince Carter trade, according an Eastern Conference official.

The proposed deal now is Carter, Maurice Ager and Chris Douglas-Roberts for Raef LaFrentz, Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriguez.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57368/20090218/carter_to_portland_outline_taking_shape/

SenorSpur
02-18-2009, 07:52 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57367/20090218/cavs_and_blazers_battling_for_jefferson/

Though a deal is not imminent, the Cleveland Cavaliers have talked to the Milwaukee Bucks about acquiring forward Richard Jefferson, two league executives said Wednesday afternoon.

Cleveland is offering the expiring contract of Wally Szczerbiak for Jefferson, who has two years and $29.2 million left on his contract.

The Bucks have also been in talks with the Portland Trail Blazers about a package that would include Jefferson for the expiring contract of Raef Lafrentz and Travis Outlaw.

TheSpursFNRule
02-18-2009, 07:53 PM
wow im starting to feel like the Spurs won't land anyone.

Bartleby
02-18-2009, 07:53 PM
wow im starting to feel like the spurs won't land anyone.

+1

TheProfessor
02-18-2009, 07:55 PM
wow im starting to feel like the Spurs won't land anyone.
We just don't have the necessary assets.

Duncan2177
02-18-2009, 07:55 PM
SOB:bang

SenorSpur
02-18-2009, 07:59 PM
From an asset standpoint, it doesn't look good for the Spurs landing anyone. Their offers just aren't that attractive in comparison to other teams.

EricB
02-18-2009, 08:00 PM
From the Realgm wiretap...

************

Carter To Portland Outline Taking Shape

The Nets and Blazers have been discussing a Vince Carter trade, according an Eastern Conference official.

The proposed deal now is Carter, Maurice Ager and Chris Douglas-Roberts for Raef LaFrentz, Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriguez.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57368/20090218/carter_to_portland_outline_taking_shape/


This the same Chris Douglas-Roberts people said would make the Spurs sorry they didn't draft him?

coyotes_geek
02-18-2009, 08:02 PM
Portland is obviously driving the bus right now. They've got the one fat contract offering immediate cap relief and the young talent to compliment. Everyone else has to just take a seat and wait for the Blazers to decide whether they want Vince or RJ. After they decide then either the Bucks or Nets will start considering other offers.

coyotes_geek
02-18-2009, 08:05 PM
This the same Chris Douglas-Roberts people said would make the Spurs sorry they didn't draft him?

I wasn't active here back in June, but if I were I would not have been one of those people. He just doesn't have the strength, quickness or enough range on the jumper to be an offensive threat in this league.

timvp
02-18-2009, 08:14 PM
Portland is obviously driving the bus right now. They've got the one fat contract offering immediate cap relief and the young talent to compliment. Not to mention the recession-proof owner.

SenorSpur
02-18-2009, 08:20 PM
Maybe all this Carter/Jefferson talk is all a CIA smokescreen to cover up the fact that the Spurs are really after Marcus Camby. :lol

TheSpursFNRule
02-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Maybe all this Carter/Jefferson talk is all a CIA smokescreen to cover up the fact that the Spurs are really after Marcus Camby. :lol

The Clippers are making it seem like they'd rather trade Kaman though. Hopefully your right though.

crc21209
02-18-2009, 08:24 PM
I dunno, if the Spurs really would give Mason and Hill for Carter, or even just one...I think its a better offer for the Nets rather than the Nets taking on the contracts of Rodriguez and Outlaw, the only likeable asset from Portland is the LaFrentz piece I guess.

Slinkyman
02-18-2009, 08:42 PM
I dunno, if the Spurs really would give Mason and Hill for Carter, or even just one...I think its a better offer for the Nets rather than the Nets taking on the contracts of Rodriguez and Outlaw, the only likeable asset from Portland is the LaFrentz piece I guess.

I don't get it either, although i read that the Nets wanted to cut cost and get better but that deal doesn't sound like them getting better to me.

mystargtr34
02-18-2009, 09:26 PM
Even though the Bucks would prefer a young player, since they traded Yi for RJ - they probably have no choice but to take expiring and semi expiring contracts. Theyre paying one guy $15M this season whos out for the year with a knee, and just signed Bogut to $70M, and now hes having back issues.

xtremesteven33
02-18-2009, 09:28 PM
3 team trade!!!!