OLD: Manu Ginobili might be out for the season

[timvp]

:depressed

We first got wind yesterday. Today, two more sources told us the same thing. A fourth source insists that he's just resting and nothing serious has been officially diagnosed.

But the bad news is that the most connected source is in the first group.

Pray, Spurs fans.

Pray.

:(

[Shastafarian]

Have any of the sources said what the problem is?

[spursfan09]

:(

Jeez.

What'd happened? This is not good news at all!

[crc21209]

Oh god please let him be ok. He has to be ok. :(

[coyotes_geek]

Well, that's a wrap! See you in 2009/2010.

[Xylus]

That really fucking sucks. I was counting on you guys to take it this year.

[EricB]

:pray

[timvp]

Have any of the sources said what the problem is?Let's just say it's not a "sore ankle".

[Spurs Brazil]

Praying.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

ouch.......

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Send the doll back to China.

Pray for what? He was bound to break down. Better now than in the WCF.

[loveforthegame]

This sucks.

Get well soon Manu.

[Shastafarian]

Let's just say it's not a "sore ankle".

Is it Ebola?

It's the ankle though right? I'm guessing he tore something in there and didn't know. Now it has gotten worse and he might need surgery and to sit out the rest of the year. Season over.

[dougp]

:depressed

We first got wind yesterday. Today, two more sources told us the same thing. A fourth source insists that he's just resting and nothing serious has been officially diagnosed.

But the bad news is that the most connected source is in the first group.

Pray, Spurs fans.

Pray.

:(

You have to be joking ... At this point, I have to pray that we can pick up Jefferson, as I don't see VC as an option. I'd take either one though if Manu was going to be out for the season. This is really shitty.

[Xylus]

Better make a trade!

(Not necessarily involving Ginobili)

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

dang it, now the Lakers will cruise through the West. Don't think i can count on the Nuggets to take them :drunk

[G-Nob]

That explains the agressiveness to find some help. I knew there had to be something going on.

[duncan228]

Damn.

Aside from all the implications this has for the team or trades/no trades, I just hope he's okay. Season ending is bad, career ending is worse. Be well Manu.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Are you f****** kidding me? AHHHHHHHHHH this is terrible news

[crc21209]

I have this feeling that maybe the Spurs "might be" making Manus injury worse than it is really to lessen a deal for VC. I can not believe Manu is really that hurt.

[spursfan09]

Damn.

Aside from all the implications this has for the team or trades/no trades, I just hope he's okay. Season ending is bad, career ending is worse. Be well Manu.

Omg. I hope its not career ending

[dougp]

Let's just say it's not a "sore ankle".

Then you're implying a trade. If a trade is involving Manu, it has to be big IMO.

[SenorSpur]

Why am I suddenly having visions of Grant Hill?

[duncan228]

Oh, thanks for letting us know what you've been hearing timvp. The board was close to going over the edge.

[MoSpur]

I figured once the whole thing about trading him blew over. Wow. It sucks. Once he get's healthy, the Spurs need to trade him. Kidding. Will he be ready for the playoffs?

[Shastafarian]

Then you're implying a trade. If a trade is involving Manu, it has to be big IMO.

Read the title of the thread.

[Duncan2177]

How and the fuck can Manu be hurt he looked good last week and he had like 4 days off during the allstar break this doesnt make no sense, This shit is getting really weird. :bang

[objective]

Better NOT make a trade. No ring without Ginobili, I don't care if the Spurs got Vince or Rasheed or Jefferson or anyone else.

Don't be desperate like the Mavs did with Kidd.

If this isn't the year, this isn't the year. Play the young guys, dump the older guys in smaller trades for conditional 2nds (like Oberto maybe), and get ready for FA and the draft.

[Blake]

This sucks as is, but I sure would feel so much better if someone would tell me this has nothing to do with his getting beat up at the Olympics this past summer.

[BlackSwordsMan]

mini greg oden
oh well next year...

[MoSpur]

Chris Duel and Jason just gave Spurstalk and Timvp props

[crc21209]

When will the Spurs let out something to the public and media? Official news...

[Kori Ellis]

Then you're implying a trade. If a trade is involving Manu, it has to be big IMO.

No, he's implying a serious injury that might not be his ankle.

[Texas_Ranger]

Oh boy..:(

[FromWayDowntown]

If Manu is done for the season, I think it makes the need to deal for Carter/Jefferson much more urgent -- not less so.

[SenorSpur]

OMG!

If this is true, the immortal words of one Derrick Coleman come to mind

"There goes the season"

[completely deck]

:bang

[timvp]

I have this feeling that maybe the Spurs "might be" making Manus injury worse than it is really to lessen a deal for VC. I can not believe Manu is really that hurt.I truly hope that this is some sort of demented CIA Pop maneuver and that the Spurs are telling everyone around them that Manu is seriously hurt. I'm not sure of what possible good spreading a false rumor would do but the only 100% reliable source is Pop.

And he's not one of the four sources . . .

[50 cent]

I knew this was going to happen. Manu will never be the Manu we once knew every again.

[loveforthegame]

Then you're implying a trade. If a trade is involving Manu, it has to be big IMO.

I could be wrong but I don't think he's implying a big trade involving Manu. Why would we need to pray about that?

[crc21209]

Chris Duel and Jason just gave Spurstalk and Timvp props


I just heard the props too.

[JoshO501]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/02/is-manu-ginobilis-ankle-injury-serious.html

[objective]

fwiw, Schoening in the postgame did contribute to the ankle talk with saying that he had seen Sevening pay extra attention to the ankle during the Toronto time frame.

But Schoening is an employee of course.

[BlackSwordsMan]

And he's not one of the four sources . . .

it's manu himself? :wow

[Sii]

who knows but this kinda thing smells like CIA pop...especially considering Manu looked great just before the all star break

who knows

[nkdlunch]

so it is an injury though? could it also be a serious illness??

hope not :(

[timvp]

Then you're implying a trade. If a trade is involving Manu, it has to be big IMO.
Manu is hurt. I'm not sure how much more clearly I can say it.

[crc21209]

Only Pop and the Spurs FO know whats up....so we gotta wait till then...

[crc21209]

This has to be a CIA Pop maneuver...has to be...

[mytespurs]

Oh no! :( I don't like the sound of this.

Forget basketball for a moment...let's hope Manu is going to be okay whatever he's going through.

[nkdlunch]

Forget basketball for a moment...let's hope Manu is going to be okay whatever he's going through.

:tu

[dougp]

Manu is hurt. I'm not sure how much more clearly I can say it.

You and about 4 others - I just misread it, not sure how. Either way, it sucks.

[spursfan09]

I truly hope that this is some sort of demented CIA Pop maneuver and that the Spurs are telling everyone around them that Manu is seriously hurt. I'm not sure of what possible good spreading a false rumor would do but the only 100% reliable source is Pop.

And he's not one of the four sources . . .

True it makes no sense why he would just be saying that. I see no motive.

[Cry Havoc]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/399090118_0b3215ac8c1.jpg

[Bartleby]

This has to be a CIA Pop maneuver...has to be...

To what end? How would rumors about a season-ending injury to Manu give them more leverage in a trade?

[Chomag]

Thanks for the update. I really hope that it's not that savere and my prayers and hopes are with Manu.

That being said, I honestly think it's time the spurs to have to look for another player to make up the big 3 (not meaning trading Manu of course becuase he is injured) but can we really put all faith in the hopes that Manu will be healthy every year from now on and risk each seaon?

The VC deal is actually looking realy good now. I was like WTF this fits non of our needs and is not worth loosing players for but now...

[Michi_Germany]

Oh no! :( I don't like the sound of this.

Forget basketball for a moment...let's hope Manu is going to be okay whatever he's going through.

Agree!

[timvp]

Only Pop and the Spurs FO know whats up....so we gotta wait till then...Agreed. Trade deadline time is the time for CIA Pop to be at its peak. I hope this talk is dead wrong.

I really, really hope.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

last time i heard something like this, it was when Nugget's fans found out Nene had testicular cancer :depressed

Hopefully Manu's 'injury' is just that and not an illness

[Shastafarian]

To what end? How would rumors about a season-ending injury to Manu give them more leverage in a trade?

A western team now won't feel bad about trading....Ron Artest? Marcus Camby? Who knows. I doubt this is CIA shit.

[EricB]

If Manu is done for the season, I think it makes the need to deal for Carter/Jefferson much more urgent -- not less so.


I would say the attitude would be "Carter or bust" "copyright TIMVP"

[El Jefe]

:wtf Get well soon Manu

[Holt's Cat]

If Manu is indeed out for the season then I think you become more flexible with trades. TD is 33 this year. TP is 27. While Duncan could arguably play until he's near 40, I doubt he wants to. This is the window. We saw last season that this team needs a penetrator/scoring wing like Manu and that the rest of the league has caught up with the Spurs and/or passed them by...at full strength.

The future is now, more or less.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Agreed. Trade deadline time is the time for CIA Pop to be at its peak. I hope this talk is dead wrong.

I really, really hope.

I doubt it. We were due for a situation like this.

[coachmac87]

Soooooo WTF happened??? Did I miss something.......When did he fuckin hurt himself???

And if he is seriously hurt....Than the VC trade is a no brainer.

Trade for VC and sign Pops

[Spurs Brazil]

The San Antonio Spurs’ delay to release any specific information about Manu Ginobili’s right ankle injury has led some opposing GMs to speculate that the injury could be serious. Delaying the announcement until after the Thursday trade deadline would help keep the Spurs from losing any leverage in their ongoing talks.

Spurs officials announced only that Ginobili won’t join them on their road trip and their medical staff continues to study test results on Ginobili’s ankle.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgE8A9l3iVfs2FOXJZO6Ce05nYcB?slug=aw-tradebuzz021709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[jiggy_55]

If its not just a "sore ankle", do you know what it is? I mean is his ankle in really bad shape or is it something else?

[Rogue]

spurs could have landed carter

[mexicanjunior]

I should have held out a week before paying for the half season of league pass...worst purchase ever.

[timvp]

True it makes no sense why he would just be saying that. I see no motive.I'm trying to think of a motive but I just can't piece one together. The only thing I can think of is that teams are asking for Manu so by saying Manu is out for the season, teams won't pressure the Spurs for him.

But that's a gargantuan stretch and makes little sense.

[ss1986v2]

last time i heard something like this, it was when Nugget's fans found out Nene had testicular cancer :depressed

Hopefully Manu's 'injury' is just that and not an illness

thats exactly where my mind went...

[Phenomanul]

:bang :( :depressed :madrun :pctoss

That possibility may explain Tony Parker's fazed look throughout the entire game last night. Maybe the rest of the team already knows...

[Holt's Cat]

If its not just a "sore ankle", do you know what it is? I mean is his ankle in really bad shape or is it something else?

Then it would probably be broke.

[Bartleby]

spurs could have landed carter

they still can

[Texas_Ranger]

If it's serious Tim & Tony will not be able to do it alone...Now is the time to make some trade!

[hater]

oh no! why did Manu leave the house without his "proteccion"?? :( :(

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-XJEdj0muZk/SCCxrQnS7LI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/zkDynLw0i3I/s400/protección.jpg

seriously... this really fucking sucks!

[Holt's Cat]

How about the reason to pretend that Ginobili is seriously hurt is to make it easier for the Spurs to get a 'big' trade done?

[mountainballer]

Agreed. Trade deadline time is the time for CIA Pop to be at its peak. I hope this talk is dead wrong.

I really, really hope.

can't see any sense to leak such a rumor. what would this help?

[SpursWench21]

NOooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This cant be true... I dont understand what happened...was it in the Toronto game or something?

[timvp]

:bang :( :depressed :madrun :pctoss

That possibility may explain Tony Parker's fazed look throughout the entire game last night. Maybe the rest of the team already knows...Yes, I can confirm that we were originally told of the possibility of the seriousness of the injury prior to last night's game. While watching the game, I had that same feeling.

Can't really blame them, if true.

[Shastafarian]

Then it would probably be broke.

Even a broken ankle could probably heal before the season is over. I'm guessing a tear.

[HarlemHeat37]

well, there goes the season..it doesn't matter if Manu can even play, he has to be HEALTHY for us to go far..

it's fucked up how the Boston was was the peak of our season..we were all happy since that game, we all believed we finally emerged as true contenders, it was a great effort....and since that game, everything has gone downhill..losses to Toronto and New York, and now Manu might be out for the season..

what a blow..

[Joe Schmoogins]

The Spurs looked awfully flat yesterday against the Knicks... surely this is really weighing on the team...


Get well Manu...

[xellos88330]

I am hoping that this isn't true and is a ploy to help trade a decent player without dismantling the big 3. I wanna see doctors reports!!!

[Xylus]

How does Ginobili's injury help the Spurs make a big trade? Doesn't it just make the Spurs look that much more desperate to land a big player like Carter?

[MarHill]

I'm trying to think of a motive but I just can't piece one together. The only thing I can think of is that teams are asking for Manu so by saying Manu is out for the season, teams won't pressure the Spurs for him.

But that's a gargantuan stretch and makes little sense.

Timvp,

You're right...that makes little sense.

I know you are somewhat close to the situation. But are you saying the Spurs were trying to trade Manu?

:wow

[hater]

Yes, I can confirm that we were originally told of the possibility of the seriousness of the injury prior to last night's game.

wait, wait so you heard this last night. and you didn't hear anything new since then???

this is some freaky shit

[BWS-1994]

:pray

And hoping for the best.

[Kori Ellis]

First of all, I just want to reiterate that this isn't 100% that he's out.

When timvp and I heard from two people yesterday (one very good source/one relatively close source) that the injury was "most likely" season-ending, I didn't post it here because I'm not someone who is going to start a firestorm of incorrect rumors.

However, after a few more people said it today and the Yahoo article came out saying GMs were speculating a more serious injury, then we decided it was thread worthy.

Nothing is completely concrete at this point. As Spurs fans, we can just hope (or pray) that the speculation is off-base and that Manu will recover quickly. I'm sure it will be a couple days time before anything is confirmed one way or the other.

There are people who are still insisting that the injury is minor but that the Spurs are worried about it, so resting him while he goes through some tests.

[FromWayDowntown]

:bang :( :depressed :madrun :pctoss

That possibility may explain Tony Parker's fazed look throughout the entire game last night. Maybe the rest of the team already knows...

A similar thought occurred to me. At times last night, the Spurs looked like a team that had all of the wind taken out of their sails. They all know that getting out of the West is going to be a chore with Manu; it's all but impossible without him (absent the acquisition of another great player).

Let's hope there's no fire here, but I have the feeling this won't turn out well.

[xellos88330]

Timvp,

You're right...that makes little sense.

I know you are somewhat close to the situation. But are you saying the Spurs were trying to trade Manu?

:wow

Timvp was saying that the Spurs are saying Manu is hurt so teams will stop asking for him.

[spursfan09]

How about the reason to pretend that Ginobili is seriously hurt is to make it easier for the Spurs to get a 'big' trade done?

How do you mean? Like protecting the feelings of the fans because they're going to trade him? When we see him playing in another uniform we're going to figure it out

[Ice009]

I'm trying to think of a motive but I just can't piece one together. The only thing I can think of is that teams are asking for Manu so by saying Manu is out for the season, teams won't pressure the Spurs for him.

But that's a gargantuan stretch and makes little sense.

I've been trying to think of a reason too. Could they be trying to make teams think that they are ripping off the Spurs in a deal when in actual fact the Spurs are willing to give up what the other team asks for? Sort of making the other team think they're getting a great deal?

[timvp]

But are you saying the Spurs were trying to trade Manu?

:wowNo. The Spurs have never had serious talks about trading Manu. The only time they had something on the table that they actually considered was Manu for Sprewell back when Manu was a rookie. But they quickly decided against that trade.

[MarHill]

The Spurs looked awfully flat yesterday against the Knicks... surely this is really weighing on the team...


Get well Manu...

I thought the same thing last night. The Spurs' energy was flat last night and I got a sense they were going to lose and if the players knew that something has happened to Manu...that could be the reason.

Also, I just hope for the best with Manu.

[Holt's Cat]

How do you mean? Like protecting the feelings of the fans because they're going to trade him? When we see him playing in another uniform we're going to figure it out

More like making it easier for another GM to deal one of the top 3 teams in the league a 4th star.

[jcrod]

:hang


Truly sucks if its true and makes since why you keep hearing Spurs name associated with availabe swing players.

[Bruno]

Since Wojnarowski is reporting that Manu's injury could be serious, it means that this info has spread around the league and that basically every GM knows it. If Spurs are keeping the injury secret because of the trade deadline, it makes no sense.
The only valid reason why they don't communicate on it, is that they are looking for a second advice about it or that Manu needs some rest before doctors re-evaluates it.

[timvp]

wait, wait so you heard this last night. and you didn't hear anything new since then???I think it was yesterday afternoon at first. And yes today we have gotten further negative confirmation . . .

:depressed

[EricB]

More like making it easier for another GM to deal one of the top 3 teams in the league a 4th star.

:pray

[xtremesteven33]

It still doesnt make sense to me.

He looked fine. Im not saying Kori ir TIMVP are wrong. I just really find it hard to believe.

The only other explanation is that he got hurt on his own time.

[Spurminator]

I just invented six new cuss words in my head. I'm not sure how they are spelled, but they are very strong.

[clambake]

i hope it's not true.

i'm pulling for you guys.

[coachmac87]

WTF is the injury?????

[mexicanjunior]

If he is out for the season and no trades are made to improve the roster...Tank 2009?

[Doug Collins]

Better tank the season and hope Lebron re-enters the draft

[vander]

wow what a surprise!!!!!!


who could have possibly envisioned this happening?!?!?!


I'm so glad the Spurs didn't trade him when he appeared to be healthy!!!


:lmao

[FromWayDowntown]

I just invented six new cuss words in my head. I'm not sure how they are spelled, but they are very strong.

Only 6?

[spursfan09]

More like making it easier for another GM to deal one of the top 3 teams in the league a 4th star.

oh ok. I never thought of it like that. Still as time passes, I'm thinking it is really health-related

[MarHill]

No. The Spurs have never had serious talks about trading Manu. The only time they had something on the table that they actually considered was Manu for Sprewell back when Manu was a rookie. But they quickly decided against that trade.

Oh, okay!

I just didn't believe the trade talk for VC, Salmons, or RJ. But if they knew Manu has something serious going on...then it does make sense to get another wing player to fill that void.

Then in that case...I have to take back my earlier posts that Spurs won't go over the cap to the pay the luxury tax. They may have to bite the bullet if they believe one of those players can keep them right at the top of the league.

It's still strange on how this news is trickling out???????

[sonic21]

:depressed

[Kori Ellis]

It still doesnt make sense to me.

He looked fine. Im not saying Kori ir TIMVP are wrong. I just really find it hard to believe.

The only other explanation is that he got hurt on his own time.

It doesn't make sense to us either. Believe me, we have said, "WTF?" in our house 100's of times since yesterday :lmao

[EricB]

Better tank the season and hope Lebron re-enters the draft

Too late, the pick in a draft that is considered the worst in a while would be worthless.

[Bartleby]

More like making it easier for another GM to deal one of the top 3 teams in the league a 4th star.

Maybe, but it looks like the only teams the Spurs were talking to were/are mediocre teams (most of whom are in the East). I'm not sure it would bother them much if they help the Spurs since they aren't really our competition right now.

[timvp]

What sucks is at first I thought Pop was just being his usual overprotective self and didn't think much of Manu missing the game. Then the bombshells started to hit.

:(

[LockBeard]

I feel like my dog just died :depressed

[50 cent]

The only thing I can hope and pray is that the Spurs have made a deal with somebody to trade Manu and that team requested that Manu not play until the deal could be worked out.

Very far fetched. It looks like we are screwed.

[Spurs Brazil]

Maybe Manu already knew something was wrong.

This one is from Friday


Ginobili's ankle has responded to the pounding of the past three months. His body, however, has absorbed the usual amount of bumps and bruises.

With that in mind, Ginobili will forgo his annual All-Star tradition. He usually takes a trip somewhere. Last year, it was Las Vegas. This year, Ginobili is staying home.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Ginobili_wants_a_real_break.html

[DarrinS]

In which game did he get hurt. The first time I heard anything was on WOAI before the Knicks game.


Does anyone know the nature of the injury?

[jcrod]

If he is out for the season and no trades are made to improve the roster...Tank 2009?

Sure and get a high second round pick. Our first is in the hands of OKC.

[MarHill]

wow what a surprise!!!!!!


who could have possibly envisioned this happening?!?!?!


I'm so glad the Spurs didn't trade him when he appeared to be healthy!!!


:lmao

That's silly!

The Spurs were not going to trade him..especially what he means to this franchise when he's healthy.

I know this is your chance to take a shot at the FO. But they have built a successful team with this trio and you would do everything you can to keep it going!!!

[Spurminator]

Ankle cancer?

[tomtom]

shit this sucks giant balls

[peacemaker885]

Man this season probably has the most ups and downs emotionally for us. God bless Manu...

[LockBeard]

This is what happens when you depend on your guards to score in the paint.

[coachmac87]

Ankle cancer?

Im sorry but :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Bartleby]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has been hurt since the GS game.

[Mavs<Spurs]

:(:wow:depressed

Oh, no !!!


Get Well Soon, Manu !!!

We need you Manu !!!

[Phenomanul]

Yes, I can confirm that we were originally told of the possibility of the seriousness of the injury prior to last night's game. While watching the game, I had that same feeling.

Can't really blame them, if true.


A similar thought occurred to me. At times last night, the Spurs looked like a team that had all of the wind taken out of their sails. They all know that getting out of the West is going to be a chore with Manu; it's all but impossible without him (absent the acquisition of another great player).

Let's hope there's no fire here, but I have the feeling this won't turn out well.

Sometimes I hate being so darn intuitive...

Parker simply wasn't himself yesterday... his look, his lack of focus, the fact that he never really burst into his normal speed, even during Eva's mid-game interview I couldn't help but notice it looked like she'd been crying... And Duncan... I had flashbacks of the 2001 series against LA where he was demanding the ball trying to take the team on his back - he had that fiery-desperation look about him (and almost won the game in the 4th quarter).

I also thought Pop's outburst at Bonner in the first half was a bit over the top (even though I knew he would keep him in the game). Something was bothering Pop.

[Kori Ellis]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he has been hurt since the GS game.

Bingo. I think that's where it might have began. But I don't think he's been playing on a season-ending injury. I think something might have happened after that to worsen it.

[mexicanjunior]

Sure and get a high second round pick. Our first is in the hands of OKC.

The pick is lottery protected...

[vander]

That's silly!

The Spurs were not going to trade him..especially what he means to this franchise when he's healthy.

I know this is your chance to take a shot at the FO. But they have built a successful team with this trio and you would do everything you can to keep it going!!!

this FO hasn't done SHIT!!! they've been riding TD's coattails ever since they won the lottery

[timvp]

For the record, we simply don't know what type of injury/condition/illness that has people thinking Manu could be done for the season.

Obviously, first and foremost we should all hope it's nothing that will affect him outside of basketball. Then let's hope whatever it is allows him to return before the end of the season.

[ashbeeigh]

Oh lord.

[Xylus]

Do you guys have any expiring contracts?

[MarHill]

this FO hasn't done SHIT!!! they've been riding TD's coattails ever since they won the lottery

What planet are you on...really?

That's just hating on the FO for no reason.

I guess the drafting of TP and Manu meant nothing.

Oh by the way...the Spurs have 3 of the last 6 championships with this trio.

Let never facts get in the way...of wanting to hate on someone!!

:bang

[EricB]

For the record, we simply don't know what type of injury/condition/illness that has people thinking Manu could be done for the season.

Obviously, first and foremost we should all hope it's nothing that will affect him outside of basketball. Then let's hope whatever it is allows him to return before the end of the season.

Amen.

[Chomag]

The only thing I can hope and pray is that the Spurs have made a deal with somebody to trade Manu and that team requested that Manu not play until the deal could be worked out.

Very far fetched. It looks like we are screwed.

I'm praying this is the case. Not just becuase the spurs would be getting a new player but now more so for Manu's sake that he is not hurt this bad. Man, I feel like all the wind has been taken out of me right now.

[quentin_compson]

Oh no, please don't let this be true. And if it is, all the best to Manu, who has given everything to the Spurs.

But again, i still hope. Nevertheless, thanks to kori and timvp for sharing, even if is something possibly devastating.

[Kori Ellis]

Do you guys have any expiring contracts?

Udoka, Vaughn and maybe something else. Nothing worth much.

[meestahmeestah]

I have this feeling that maybe the Spurs "might be" making Manus injury worse than it is really to lessen a deal for VC. I can not believe Manu is really that hurt.

wouldn't this mean the Spurs would downplay Manu's injury (which it seems they are) so that other teams don't try and screw them? if they go into a trade negotiation looking desperate, the other team can ask for more and expect to get it if they're really desperate.

[benefactor]

Dammit.....................just dammit. :(

[florige]

Wow...this day just keeps getting better.:rolleyes

[nkdlunch]

For the record, we simply don't know what type of injury/condition/illness that has people thinking Manu could be done for the season.

Obviously, first and foremost we should all hope it's nothing that will affect him outside of basketball. Then let's hope whatever it is allows him to return before the end of the season.

I actually am praying it's not career ending illness/injury. Anything else is good news at this point.

[MateoNeygro]

I just invented six new cuss words in my head. I'm not sure how they are spelled, but they are very strong.

hahaha FuuckinSonofabitch came to mind.

[mytespurs]

Maybe Manu already knew something was wrong.

This one is from Friday



http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Ginobili_wants_a_real_break.html


But didn't Manu say in an interview he was going to stay home & try to get in shape during the all star break?

[MarHill]

wouldn't this mean the Spurs would downplay Manu's injury (which it seems they are) so that other teams don't try and screw them? if they go into a trade negotiation looking desperate, the other team can ask for more and expect to get it if they're really desperate.

Good point....now that I think about it!!

[timvp]

More like making it easier for another GM to deal one of the top 3 teams in the league a 4th star.Hopefully this is true. Perhaps by leaking Manu is possibly out for the season, another team wouldn't be as worried about giving the Spurs the final piece to a juggernaut.





Unlikely but CIA Pop has done craftier.

[ElNono]

I asked Manu in the game in NJ if he was going anywhere during the All Star break, and he said no, because he wanted to stay in San Antonio to do more workouts since he didn't do the preseason workouts and he wanted to get in better shape.
I personally still think this is a CIA Pop move to basically remove Manu as a trade bargaining chip. I bet a few teams wouldn't trade if Manu was not part of the package, and now maybe they will be forced to look at other pieces from the Spurs.

[DarrinS]

For the record, we simply don't know what type of injury/condition/illness that has people thinking Manu could be done for the season.

Obviously, first and foremost we should all hope it's nothing that will affect him outside of basketball. Then let's hope whatever it is allows him to return before the end of the season.


Holy shit! I wasn't even thinking about anything more serious than an ankle injury. :wow

[MarHill]

Hopefully this is true. Perhaps by leaking Manu is possibly out for the season, another team wouldn't be as worried about giving the Spurs the final piece to a juggernaut.





Unlikely but CIA Pop has done craftier.

Timvp,

If that's true...that would be really crafty!

I hope so!!!

[TwAnKiEs]

Oh shit son! :bang :shootme



Ah well ..... They got to pull through and Learn to play with out him.... :flag:

[EricB]

Hopefully this is true. Perhaps by leaking Manu is possibly out for the season, another team wouldn't be as worried about giving the Spurs the final piece to a juggernaut.





Unlikely but CIA Pop has done craftier.


If that happened,

and Ginobili magically came back in the middle of March.

Pop should have a freaking statue erected to him.

[tomtom]

Sometimes I hate being so darn intuitive...
Parker simply wasn't himself yesterday... his look, his lack of focus, the fact that he never really burst into his normal speed, even during Eva's mid-game interview I couldn't help but notice it looked like she'd been crying... And Duncan... I had flashbacks of the 2001 series against LA where he was demanding the ball trying to take the team on his back - he had that fiery-desperation look about him (and almost won the game in the 4th quarter).


Wow that would explain alot


Hopefully this is true. Perhaps by leaking Manu is possibly out for the season, another team wouldn't be as worried about giving the Spurs the final piece to a juggernaut.





Unlikely but CIA Pop has done craftier.

I really hope so...:depressed

[timvp]

I asked Manu in the game in NJ if he was going anywhere during the All Star break, and he said no, because he wanted to stay in San Antonio to do more workouts since he didn't do the preseason workouts and he wanted to get in better shape.
I personally still think this is a CIA Pop move to basically remove Manu as a trade bargaining chip. I bet a few teams wouldn't trade if Manu was not part of the package, and now maybe they will be forced to look at other pieces from the Spurs.I really hope you are right.

[024]

quickly, someone revive the tank 08-09 season thread.

[AceProfits]

:(

[Spurs Brazil]

I hope Ludden can bring something soon

[Mavs<Spurs]

This is still Tim Duncan's team.

Offense, Defense and Leadership, Tim Duncan is, in my book, absolutely one of the top 10 players to ever play basketball.

And he's still an elite player in the NBA.

We'll go as far as Tim Duncan takes us.

And he's got a great track record.


No matter what, Tim brought us 4 trophies and Manu and Tony were solid contributors to 3.

So, whatever happens, this has been an awesome trio which has brought us a lot of great memories.

Love My Spurs !!!

Hope Manu gets well soon though !!

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[Xylus]

I was going to suggest a JRich trade for a couple of the Spurs expiring contracts (since the Suns need financial relief), but I don't see how a trade could be made to satisfy both teams.

[EricB]

I was going to suggest a JRich trade for a couple of the Spurs expiring contracts (since the Suns need financial relief), but I don't see how a trade could be made to satisfy both teams.


While I'd normally say yuck.

Uh, now I'd be like Hmmmm.. :lol

[IronMexican]

This would suck ass. I hope all teams are healthy heading into the playoffs.

[ElNono]

I really hope you are right.

I do too.

[MarHill]

This would suck ass. I hope all teams are healthy heading into the playoffs.

+1

I want all teams to be healthy...to see who can the win title fair and square.

[MateoNeygro]

Sometimes I hate being so darn intuitive...

Parker simply wasn't himself yesterday... his look, his lack of focus, the fact that he never really burst into his normal speed, even during Eva's mid-game interview I couldn't help but notice it looked like she'd been crying... And Duncan... I had flashbacks of the 2001 series against LA where he was demanding the ball trying to take the team on his back - he had that fiery-desperation look about him (and almost won the game in the 4th quarter).

I also thought Pop's outburst at Bonner in the first half was a bit over the top (even though I knew he would keep him in the game). Something was bothering Pop.

This isn't good but everybody is making it sound like he's dying or something. Ya'll are freakin me out. Why would Eva be crying about an ankle injury?? If there is any truth to the fact that they know he's hurt or sick or whatever I don't think it's an ankle thing if anything I think it's a cover up because he was playing well on the ankle before the All Star Game, if anything he's sick. I prey to God he isn't. Bless you El Contusion.

[meestahmeestah]

Just a general question, and not meant as any speculation at all...but what kind of injury protection/insurance is on your average NBA contract that could help the Spurs in case it's a season ending (or worse) injury? I know some guys can't get any insurance at all (Eddy Curry's bad heart, etc.) and there was the Darius Miles situation from earlier this year...so I guess I'm wondering...is it a team-by-team basis (the teams negotiate their own insurance on every contract) or is it a leaguewide policy?

[xtremesteven33]

If this is true...this has got to be the most injury plagued season i have ever seen in the NBA.

[Xylus]

This would suck ass. I hope all teams are healthy heading into the playoffs.

IronMexican is all class. :toast

[vander]

What planet are you on...really?

That's just hating on the FO for no reason.

I guess the drafting of TP and Manu meant nothing.

Oh by the way...the Spurs have 3 of the last 6 championships with this trio.

Let never facts get in the way...of wanting to hate on someone!!

:bang

all brought to you by TD and the 97 lottery, the rest of their picks were no better than any other NBA team, exchange TD with the best player on any other team, and it's still TD getting 4+ rings, Not the spurs
I'll give them credit for being the first team to scout and draft foreign players, but they didn't get out when the rest of the league quickly followed suit.

LA went out and GOT players for their championships
Miami, Boston, and Detroit as well, the Spurs never have had to do anything risky, strategic, or expensive to go after a title
it all gust fell in their fucking laps, and now not being able to see the decline of Manu is going to end up costing TD even more titles

[hater]

hahaha Eva was crying?

comeon. this is going overboard. Worst case: Manu out for season Best case: Manu plays in 2 weeks.

[DPG21920]

My prayers go out to Manu. I mentioned yesterday that Tony looked like he was playing depressed. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.

[BlackSwordsMan]

manu for carter

[timvp]

So, whatever happens, this has been an awesome trio which has brought us a lot of great memories.

Love My Spurs !!!

Hope Manu gets well soon though !!

:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

:tu

[spursfan09]

This isn't good but everybody is making it sound like he's dying or something. Ya'll are freakin me out. Why would Eva be crying about an ankle injury?? If there is any truth to the fact that they know he's hurt or sick or whatever I don't think it's an ankle thing if anything I think it's a cover up because he was playing well on the ankle before the All Star Game, if anything he's sick. I prey to God he isn't. Bless you El Contusion.

Yeah I don't think Eva would cry over an ankle injury no matter how bad unless it was Tony's, but not Manu. If she was crying for something else than it was bad... really bad

[Chomag]

I was going to suggest a JRich trade for a couple of the Spurs expiring contracts (since the Suns need financial relief), but I don't see how a trade could be made to satisfy both teams.


Maybe it would have been a good idea but I don't think our front office would even consider it with the Law troubles he has been into as of late

[timvp]

ok Kori. Just say what you know please.
Cose peole here is starting to think that Manu's health is fucked up real bad(including my self)
What did you really hear??what really happened from Thursday to today????We simply don't know what is wrong with him other than speculation around the team that he could be done for the season. I wish I knew it was just an injury.

[Buddy Holly]

I think, I think Kori and LJ came up with this poppycock injury scare to drive up traffic on their site. Shame be you!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

wow what a surprise!!!!!!


who could have possibly envisioned this happening?!?!?!


I'm so glad the Spurs didn't trade him when he appeared to be healthy!!!


:lmao

Gee... vander rejoicing about Manu's season ending injury! what a fucking surprise!

Tell us all how objective you are again douchebag!

[MateoNeygro]

manu for carter

NO! I will be severly pissed if they trade Manu.

[benefactor]

all brought to you by TD and the 97 lottery, the rest of their picks were no better than any other NBA team, exchange TD with the best player on any other team, and it's still TD getting 4+ rings, Not the spurs

And Duncan, not Capt. Jack sank those threes in the playoffs. I guess he made all those clutch shot that Horry had that saved our ass.

He was the focal point, but the system and the role players had just as big of a part.

[IronMexican]

IronMexican is all class. :toast

Lakers>Suns:lol just messing with you

:toast

[Kori Ellis]

I think, I think Kori and LJ came up with this poppycock injury scare to drive up traffic on their site. Shame be you!

Yeah because all these banner and pop-up ads here will make us millions :lol

[DarrinS]

It's really hard to believe that he scores 32 against Toronto and is suddenly hurt.

[Chomag]

Ok guys... now I'm seriously scared out of my mind here. At first I was thinking of it just being a playing related injury but now as time goes on it's starting to look like it might be something worse? God I hope not!

Manu! Please be ok. What ever the truth is, Best wishes and prayers to you buddy!

[Buddy Holly]

How about this trade?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=dgcrv9

[timvp]

It's really hard to believe that he scores 32 against Toronto and is suddenly hurt.True. The mystery of this situation is even impressive on CIA Pop standards.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

If it's an injury then it should come out quickly after the deadline, assuming they are staying quiet just coz of the silly season

If it is something else, then it may be hidden for a while if the player wishes. I know Nene only shared his illness news with family/teammates/coaches and wanted it kept quiet for an initial period.

[Buddy Holly]

Yeah because all these banner and pop-up ads here will make us millions :lol

I don't argue with the shamed. :nope

[45 bank shot]

wth is going on with the spurs lately? Trade rumors, loss to bad teams and now itz bout Manu?

[remingtonbo2001]

I wish Manu a quick recovery.

I haven't kept track within the past couple of months, so I'm not sure if Pop has anything up his sleeve. Regardless, I hope Manu is okay.

[Shastafarian]

True. The mystery of this situation is even impressive on CIA Pop standards.

Could be a tear. He complained of pain after GS so they gave him shots (not sure what) and he was able to play. The tear keeps getting worse until the shots don't help. He sees a doctor and they diagnose a torn ligament/tendon/etc. It seems plausible though I hope it's not true.

[ORION]

Didn't the news yesterday before the game and it showed a clip from the last practice and Manu was shooting a jumper in front of Tony ?

[Das Texan]

what the fuck did he do?


tear his ACL?
tear his Achilles?
fuck up something else in his knee?

I'd guess any other injury wouldnt be a season ender...maybe...simply a torn muscle he could recover from in time right?


this is crazy shit.


and:


:pctoss

[Kori Ellis]

I know people's minds are racing, but I don't think Manu has an illness. I just think he has an injury that is more serious than originally thought. Hopefully he'll get some tests and they'll figure out that he only needs to miss a few weeks, but there is much talking that it's season-ending.

[Holt's Cat]

What names haven't we heard? Carter certainly doesn't pass the smell test, though I wouldn't mind for the right package.

With Horry's rights as a bargaining chip, I think the Spurs can get fairly creative. But no doubt that would require Holt to give up the lux tax payments.

[Buddy Holly]

Didn't the news yesterday before the game and it showed a clip from the last practice and Manu was shooting a jumper in front of Tony ?

Probably old footage as the Spurs haven't practiced at home in over a week.

[spursfan09]

Didn't the news yesterday before the game and it showed a clip from the last practice and Manu was shooting a jumper in front of Tony ?

yeah I saw that to

[ORION]

Probably old footage as the Spurs haven't practiced at home in over a week.

what about Monday after the break

[DarrinS]

True. The mystery of this situation is even impressive on CIA Pop standards.


I just rewatched parts of the Toronto game and there's absolutely no way he is hurt before or during that game. Don't know what's happened since.

[Buddy Holly]

what about Monday after the break

They were in New York.

[ORION]

They were in New York.

oh...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

ok,Im on the yellow pages right now looking for manu's home number.
I'll give him a call,fuck it.


:lmao

Relax a little... geez!

[T_MONEY_TX]

www.1250thezone.com

[Buddy Holly]

ok,Im on the yellow pages right now looking for manu's home number.
I'll give him a call,fuck it.

It's 210-878-7467.

[EricB]

They were in New York.


They had practice and flew to New York.

[DarrinS]

Just give him a damn shot of the new-and-improved A-Rod's energy juice and tell him to get the fuck back on the court.

[tmtcsc]

ok,Im on the yellow pages right now looking for manu's home number.
I'll give him a call,fuck it.

Yellow Pages ? Where are you going to look under ?

Try Bad Ass Mutha's.

[vander]

Gee... vander rejoicing about Manu's season ending injury! what a fucking surprise!

Tell us all how objective you are again douchebag!

rejoicing? no

Laughing at anyone who dared argue against me? yes

anyone who thought Manu could go another season at 100% is a total idiot or blind homer. the guy is losing his athleticism and resistance to injury as he ages, and his style of play desperately needs both of those things to be effective.

this was no surprise.

[Holt's Cat]

The Spurs have been said to have interest in players who each have a salary greater than $12 mil this season. You don't realistically get there (outside of moving one of the big 3) without signing Horry to some kind of bogus inflated contract. You don't show that interest without Holt being willing to take back a deal big enough to put team payroll in lux tax territory. Dealing Ginobili doesn't make much sense, unless they think he faces a steep, sudden decline over the next year or two.

[EricB]

Just give him a damn shot of the new-and-improved A-Rod's energy juice and tell him to get the fuck back on the court.


Hurts himself worse and then flunks a drug test.

:lol

[timvp]

I just rewatched parts of the Toronto game and there's absolutely no way he is hurt before or during that game. Don't know what's happened since.Yeah, I did the same. I don't buy the "he had a sore ankle prior to the All-Star break" talk the Spurs are saying now. Manu looked fine.

I think either they had Manu on cortisone shots so he could play through the pain and then examining during the All-Star break showed something worse. Or perhaps Manu hurt himself at some point during the break.

But obviously, the main hope is that CIA Pop is up to some complicated trick.

[DrHouse]

Hope he comes back this season.

[Phenomanul]

LA went out and GOT players for their championships

Which one?

As for the ones they won during the first part of the decade. How exactly did LA build their squad? Let's see:

Kobe basically refused to be drafted by anyone other than the Lakers forcing a Vlade Divacs trade to Charlotte.

LA took advantage of the Horry-Ainge scuffle to pry him away from the Suns without having to give up much. Horry was as crucial a player as Kobe/Shaq during their three-peat years...

Shaq forced himself out Orlando. LA picked him up as a free agent (though they can't be faulted for this entirely).

They basically landed Pau Gasol for nothing... well... for peanuts...

And Fisher used his daughter's medical condition to 'screw' the Utah Jazz (again ending up in LA).

Not exactly the type of moves that would indicate that LA's F.O. has been any better than the Spurs' F.O.... If anything they show that they required several breaks in their favor to be where they are... Sure, the Spurs were lucky in having landed Tim Duncan... Someone always wins the draft lottery, and fortunately for the Spurs Tim was on the board, and no one could pick ahead of them.

[ORION]

They had practice and flew to New York.

oh!

[nkdlunch]

LOL they are reading this thread on the radio

[Mavs<Spurs]

I know people's minds are racing, but I don't think Manu has an illness. I just think he has an injury that is more serious than originally thought. Hopefully he'll get some tests and they'll figure out that he only needs to miss a few weeks, but there is much talking that it's season-ending.

+1 for the encouragement and hope

[vy65]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At0txQaxmY7AbiPSjlZjjI85nYcB?slug=aw-tradebuzz021709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The Spurs didn’t announce Ginobili’s absence on their trip until Monday when they were already in New York. Though Ginobili scored 32 points in a loss to the Toronto Raptors, the Spurs’ final game before the All-Star break, team officials say he had been experiencing pain in his right ankle for a while.

[xtremesteven33]

If Manu is out i want a bounty for Kobes ankle!!!

[mytespurs]

I know people's minds are racing, but I don't think Manu has an illness. I just think he has an injury that is more serious than originally thought. Hopefully he'll get some tests and they'll figure out that he only needs to miss a few weeks, but there is much talking that it's season-ending.


It's somewhat comforting that it's not an illness but still :(

Get well Manu!

[EricB]

Yeah, I did the same. I don't buy the "he had a sore ankle prior to the All-Star break" talk the Spurs are saying now. Manu looked fine.

I think either they had Manu on cortisone shots so he could play through the pain and then examining during the All-Star break showed something worse. Or perhaps Manu hurt himself at some point during the break.

But obviously, the main hope is that CIA Pop is up to some complicated trick.


Yeah its the strangest situation i've ever seen sports wise in a long long time.

[ORION]

I love Lamp !

[Buddy Holly]

Get'r'done!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=dgcrv9

[DarrinS]

LOL they are reading this thread on the radio


Who's "they"?

[vander]

And Duncan, not Capt. Jack sank those threes in the playoffs. I guess he made all those clutch shot that Horry had that saved our ass.

He was the focal point, but the system and the role players had just as big of a part.

other players in the NBA can make clutch shots too, in fact, with other players, clutch shots may not have even been needed :wow

[EricB]

If Manu is out i want a bounty for Kobes ankle!!!

Chill dude....

[DarrinS]

Yeah, I did the same. I don't buy the "he had a sore ankle prior to the All-Star break" talk the Spurs are saying now. Manu looked fine.

I think either they had Manu on cortisone shots so he could play through the pain and then examining during the All-Star break showed something worse. Or perhaps Manu hurt himself at some point during the break.

But obviously, the main hope is that CIA Pop is up to some complicated trick.




That's pretty damn sneaky, even by Pop standards.

[xtremesteven33]

Chill dude....



just venting man.....:bang

[tmtcsc]

*** Pure Speculation ***

I wonder if he hurt his back in the GS game and had some pain killers to deal with it for Toronto. After a closer look maybe they saw something that looked serious enough to hold him out for a while or for the rest of the season. Either way, that would really suck.


*** END ***

[FromWayDowntown]

If the Spurs hope was to keep this under their hats, that effort has been completely negated at this point -- the speculation is growing and the outlets reporting the speculation seem to be expanding exponentially.

First and foremost, here's hoping that this is basketball severe (if that) and nothing more than basketball severe. Beyond that, I still think the question for the Spurs is whether to go all in, right now -- Carter, for whatever it takes.

Given the extent of the Duncan window, Ghost Writer's old "Win Now, Worry Later" maxim strikes me as the better idea.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

If he is out for the season, then i suggest the Spurs just trade Duncan to Denver for the season to ensure that the Lakers don't come out of the West again :smokin

[MateoNeygro]

ok,Im on the yellow pages right now looking for manu's home number.
I'll give him a call,fuck it.

hahha nice.

[EricB]

If the Spurs hope was to keep this under their hats, that effort has been completely negated at this point -- the speculation is growing and the outlets reporting the speculation seem to be expanding exponentially.

First and foremost, here's hoping that this is basketball severe (if that) and nothing more than basketball severe. Beyond that, I still think the question for the Spurs is whether to go all in, right now -- Carter, for whatever it takes.

Given the extent of the Duncan window, Ghost Writer's old "Win Now, Worry Later" maxim strikes me as the better idea.


:tu spot on

[tmtcsc]

i love lamp !


loud noises !!!

[DarrinS]

loud noises !!!


Bears can smell the menstruation!!

[spurtech09]

Idk know whats going on but all this injury news seems kinda weird to me.....manu ginobili looked fine to me during the raptors game last week and he got plenty of rest during the all-star break so what can be the problem?Just hope this injury ain't that serious and I hope hes alright....my prayers are with manu

[coyotes_geek]

If he is out for the season, then i suggest the Spurs just trade Duncan to Denver for the season to ensure that the Lakers don't come out of the West again :smokin

As long as you promise to give him back at the end of the playoffs then I'm okay with it.

[Spurminator]

I think either they had Manu on cortisone shots so he could play through the pain and then examining during the All-Star break showed something worse.


That strikes me as very un-Spurs-like... very irresponsible for a regular season game in February. I can't imagine the team would have let him play hurt if they had known he was experiencing pain. I think it's far more likely that if he was playing through any pain, he was doing so without the team knowing.

[Chomag]

Gonna hate to see Hill and Mason go but we might not have a choice now :depressed

[MateoNeygro]

rejoicing? no

Laughing at anyone who dared argue against me? yes

anyone who thought Manu could go another season at 100% is a total idiot or blind homer. the guy is losing his athleticism and resistance to injury as he ages, and his style of play desperately needs both of those things to be effective.

this was no surprise.

Not trying to be a jackass but everyone loses athleticism and resistance to injury as they age. I know that wasn't exactly your point but just saying.

[ElNono]

Here's one more tidbit... Manu normally gets pretty down when he gets injured. It's actually quite surprising to me to read a post on his forum (LINK (http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=383782#383782)) from Manu himself congratulating Jalberto for winning the Spurs.com wallpaper competition. Considering he's never been reluctant to talk about his injuries publicly in the forum before, I just have to think he was ok then. Unless something happened Sunday or Monday?

Disclaimer: This is complete speculation. Take it for what it worth, which is not much at all.

[G-Nob]

Why isn't anyone going to address that someone got 600+ in Power Driver?!?

[Shank]

Bears can smell the menstruation!!

Well, are you happy now Darrin? Bears. Now all our lives are in danger.

[xtremesteven33]

That strikes me as very un-Spurs-like... very irresponsible for a regular season game in February. I can't imagine the team would have let him play hurt if they had known he was experiencing pain. I think it's far more likely that if he was playing through any pain, he was doing so without the team knowing.



Hell yea dude....


This doesnt add up.

like the 9/11 official story....but thats another topic...haha

[dirk4mvp]

This is what you get for smiling and cracking open a beer when JET went down.

[cheguevara]

Dios mio

[timvp]

Here's one more tidbit... Manu normally gets pretty down when he gets injured. It's actually quite surprising to me to read a post on his forum (LINK (http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=383782#383782)) from Manu himself congratulating Jalberto for winning the Spurs.com wallpaper competition. Considering he's never been reluctant to talk about his injuries publicly in the forum before, I just have to think he was ok then. Unless something happened Sunday or Monday?

Disclaimer: This is complete speculation. Take it for what it worth, which is not much at all.I don't follow Manu's forum too closely but isn't it weird he hasn't said anything? Usually they'll be something from him somewhere talking about the injury. Manu being quiet adds to the mystery.

[Holt's Cat]

Fuck Jason Terry.

[tmtcsc]

Bears can smell the menstruation!!

You're a real hooker and I'm going to slap you in public.

[xtremesteven33]

Fuck Jason Terry.

[FromWayDowntown]

That strikes me as very un-Spurs-like... very irresponsible for a regular season game in February. I can't imagine the team would have let him play hurt if they had known he was experiencing pain. I think it's far more likely that if he was playing through any pain, he was doing so without the team knowing.

It's definitely contrary to Pop's usual MO, particularly after he gave the Big 3 the night off in Denver just before that. I can't recall a time when Pop didn't err on the side of caution with a regular season injury.

I'm inclined to the view that we're looking at something that occurred during the break or something that had been innocuous but was discovered during the break (or something Manu just didn't bother to mention to anyone, as Spurminator suggests).