Hornets/Thunder trade nullified

[completely deck]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11637



The Oklahoma City Thunder have rescinded the trade that brought them Tyson Chandler from the New Orleans Hornets. The official word is that Chandler, who has been out nursing an ankle injury, failed his physical upon arrival in Oklahoma City.
New Orleans Hornets GM Jeff Bower says the team will "welcome Chandler back with open arms."


HOOPSWORLD's Steve Kyler is in New Orleans tonight, with the hope being that we could get some interviews and photos of Chris Wilcox and Joe Smith, the newest members of the Hornets. The two didn't suit up, however, and were not made available to the media pre-game, as had been expected.



We now know that the Hornets were waiting for word from OKC that Chandler had passed his physical.
It's expected that the Thunder will make a subsequent deal to move their highly-coveted front court players elsewhere, though it seems unlikely they would land a player of Chandler's caliber with so little time left between now and the trade deadline to work out the details.



Didn't see this posted anywhere

[Shastafarian]

no way...

[Shastafarian]

Let's get Joe Smith here ASAP!

[MarHill]

Wow that's strange!!!

[Holt's Cat]

Odd that OKC would nix that. Presti must have something else in the works.

[ezau]

Who would've thought

[tp2021]

odd that okc would nix that. Presti must have something else in the works.

with the spurs!

[timvp]

Damn it. The Paul to Chandler alleyoop lives :pctoss

[coyotes_geek]

Chandler's ankle must be worse than the Hornets were letting on.

[tomtom]

Let's get Joe Smith here ASAP!

no and thank you

[timvp]

Bowen and a pick for Joe Smith wouldn't hurt the bigman depth. Better yet, maybe Oberto and Udoka for Joe Smith.

[Shastafarian]

How about some trash for Chandler? We've already got one guy with an ankle problem. Might as well get him a buddy.

[timvp]

Chandler's ankle must be worse than the Hornets were letting on.My first thought was that his back injury from a few years ago.

[Mark in Austin]

damn. i had crossed NO off the contender list. They're a totally different team with Chandler.

[coyotes_geek]

My first thought was that his back injury from a few years ago.

Forgot about the back. You could be right.

[Russ]

Buy low -- Chandler with an alleged injury could be a bargain for years.

[timvp]

damn. i had crossed NO off the contender list. They're a totally different team with Chandler.Exactly. Take Chandler off the Hornets and they aren't much of a contender.

[holcs50]

No no and no on the joe smith talks. U kidding you want another 33 year old who has not aged well at all. If anything Wilcox would be the way to go for sure! Young (25 i believe) and plays with a lot of energy. Wilcox anyday over j.smith. Joe smith would not make us any better.

[coyotes_geek]

Buy low -- Chandler with an alleged injury could be a bargain for years.

Would the Hornets really trade him to us though?

[timvp]

No no and no on the joe smith talks. U kidding you want another 33 year old who has not aged well at all. If anything Wilcox would be the way to go for sure! Young (25 i believe) and plays with a lot of energy. Wilcox anyday over j.smith. Joe smith would not make us any better.The thing with Wilcox is that he blocks less shots than Oberto. The Spurs struggle enough protecting the rim without the human turnstile in the middle.

[timvp]

Buy low -- Chandler with an alleged injury could be a bargain for years.Not even Shinn is desperate enough to trade Chandler to the Spurs.

[Russ]

Would the Hornets really trade him to us though?

Looks like a money move. Money trumps passion (in a depression).

[Flux451]

I like the idea of Joe Smith for Oberto and Udoka.

[Spork KIller]

I like the idea of Joe Smith for Oberto and Udoka.

:lmao:nope

[wisnub]

Lets trade scrubs with Chandler...can we?

[Holt's Cat]

Unfortunate turn of events for the Spurs. Presti should send the #1 back just for that.

[coyotes_geek]

Looks like a money move. Money trumps passion (in a depression).

Definitely a money move, but the Hornets should be able to find someone outside the division who can help them.

[Spork KIller]

Unfortunate turn of events for the Spurs. Presti should send the #1 back just for that.

Pathetic fuck!

[MarHill]

Bowen and a pick for Joe Smith wouldn't hurt the bigman depth. Better yet, maybe Oberto and Udoka for Joe Smith.

I'm okay with the 2nd part of this proposed trade!

[BWS-1994]

Less than 48 hours to go before the trade deadline if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if the Hornets could immediately find any takers for Chandler?

[carlos c]

Maybe this is the Spurs chance to get something good. How bout a SA/OKC/NJ trade? Both OKC and NJ want to shed salary. OKC has $22.4 mil in expiring contracts.

SA: Carter and Earl Watson
NJ: OKC's expiring contracts, Wilcox, and filler
OKC: Hill, Spurs players, picks, and filler

This might be the Spurs chance to get Carter without giving up both Hill and Mason. Spurs get Watson's contract (2 yrs. left- this year and next) off OKC's books and they get picks (Splitter?).

Or maybe use OKC for another player (RJ or Camby).

[Spursfan092120]

Pathetic fuck!
Seriously..what would it take to get this guy banned?

[timvp]

Less than 16 hours to go before the trade deadline.Fixed.

[SenorSpur]

Wish there was a way for the Spurs to get Chandler.

[coyotes_geek]

Maybe this is the Spurs chance to get something good. How bout a SA/OKC/NJ trade? Both OKC and NJ want to shed salary. OKC has $22.4 mil in expiring contracts.

SA: Carter and Earl Watson
NJ: OKC's expiring contracts, Wilcox, and filler
OKC: Hill, Spurs players, picks, and filler

This might be the Spurs chance to get Carter without giving up both Hill and Mason. Spurs get Watson's contract (2 yrs. left- this year and next) off OKC's books and they get picks (Splitter?).

Or maybe use OKC for another player (RJ or Camby).

If the Spurs want to get Watson and Carter they need to trade away almost $17 mil worth of player salary. Hill makes $1 mil. So the generic "Spurs players" and "filler" is going to have to consist of about 5 guys, or Manu + 2 guys.

[BWS-1994]

Fixed.

Thanks.

If the Hornets are desperate, who knows who they're willing to get in return of Chandler.

[coyotes_geek]

Wish there was a way for the Spurs to get Chandler.

Me too, but the team that just picked him up in a "something for nothing" deal just sent him back. That's got to make you a little nervous.

[Old School 44]

Damn it. The Paul to Chandler alleyoop lives :pctoss

My thought exactly! They make the alleyoop look easy.

When I first saw this trade, I thought, this is almost as good as Kidd for Harris.

[PuttPutt]

All because Chandler failed his physical. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA PATHETIC!!!

[crc21209]

Well maybe he wont even be a factor for the Hornets this yr seeing as how he's hurt....Now the Spurs may be able to jump in on Wilcox or Smith, or even a 3 team trade where they could get VC or somethin without giving up Hill or Mase.

[SenorSpur]

I like Wilcox too. But I'd take either one.

Wilcox and Ely were almost reunited again. I still believe they are the same guy.

[meestahmeestah]

Bowen and a pick for Joe Smith wouldn't hurt the bigman depth. Better yet, maybe Oberto and Udoka for Joe Smith.

how about Udoka and Horry sign-and-trade for 3.7M? :toast

[coyotes_geek]

Keep in mind the Thunder were trading Wilcox and Smith, both expiring contracts, for a guy who would have been their starting center for the forseeable future. They're not going to simply trade their expiring contracts for some collection of Spur expiring contracts. If the Spurs want one of those guys they're going to have to throw in something that will hold value for them beyond April of this year. A pick, Hill, Mason, Splitter. And since they've already got our 2009 1st round pick, they'd have to wait until 2011 before we could give them another one.

[crc21209]

You also gotta keep in mind this is Sam Presti though, he may be willing to cut the Spurs a deal.

[mudyez]

Me too, but the team that just picked him up in a "something for nothing" deal just sent him back. That's got to make you a little nervous.

there is a difference of taking that risk for a young team and....well...us

it was too good to be true...would have loved chandler with the thunder and off one of the contenders....but I'm pretty sure, we will beat them anyway...

...take a second and imagine chandlers feeling refilling his locker after beeing sent away for nothing!

[mudyez]

btw.: a lot of sources where confused about this trade going down so early...my bet is, that NO knew there was a big risk (of falling through) and they wanted to have time to do something else!

[dbestpro]

Chandler trade rescinded. Chandler, Wilcox and Smith still available.

[Dex]

Damn it. The Paul to Chandler alleyoop lives :pctoss

:smchode:

[NRHector]

Seriously..what would it take to get this guy banned?ban who?

[pad300]

How about some trash for Chandler? We've already got one guy with an ankle problem. Might as well get him a buddy.


Buy low -- Chandler with an alleged injury could be a bargain for years.

Indeed, if we are confident that Gino is out for the year, getting Chandler cheap while he is injured would be a real deal. If Gino is out for the year and not replaced, we're not winning a ring. Securing a starting level C, even if he's only going to be useful next season (after healing up), would be a real coup.


Not even Shinn is desperate enough to trade Chandler to the Spurs.

Shinn will do just about anything for money... and I don't see a lot of other teams willing to send expirings back in this economy, particularly for an injured player. Money make the NBA world go around, and sometimes people get desperate. It's certainly worth investigating...

[Spursfan092120]

ban who?
Spork KIller..dude's a d-bag

[El Jefe]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3917505


After examining Chandler's left big toe, Dr. Carlan Yates, Oklahoma City's team physician, determined that the risk of re-injury was too great to give Chandler a clean bill of health. He therefore advised the Thunder to rescind Tuesday's trade that landed them Chandler for Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and the rights to Devon Hardin.

In case anyone was curious as to the reason

[HarlemHeat37]

I would be surprised if New Orleans doesn't pull a trade though, considering they need the financial relief for next year..they'll be losing something..obviously the loss of Chandler would be ideal for us though..

Chris Wilcox is overrated..I'll take Joe Smith though..

[Buddy Holly]

Maybe Horry can come into play here. He could play for New Orleans legitimately (close to Houston, kind of a contender) so signing him to a large one year deal plus pairing him with a Bowen (who would be waived) is hypothetical.

[stéphane]

Damn it. The Paul to Chandler alleyoop lives :pctoss

If it's as alive as Chandler knee's health we should be fine.

[objective]

just say no to Joe Smith.

He's just another washed up stiff.

And that pains me to say, Joe Smith is one of my all time favorite college players. I went to watch Maryland play Temple at the Alamodome just to watch Joe Smith (and he was awesome that game, I think he had something like 32, 15 and 6 or 7 blocks).

He's not even as good as KT was last year. KT last season with seattle had better numbers per 40, and had proven toughness. Smith doesn't even have that.

[mudyez]

Finally, this question, after the Tyson Chandler trade was rescinded: Is there any chance that Chandler could be traded again by Thursday?

One GM, speaking on condition of anonymity, told me he spoke with the Thunder and thought they were extremely conservative in their diagnosis of Chandler. Although he hadn't seen the medical evidence, he felt, based on his conversations with the Thunder, that the team might have overreacted to the center's turf toe issue.


I don't see it happening, but as I said: the thunder have to be more concerned about his health, than we have too (he wouldn't have to be our future).

source:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=TradeTalkRoundup-090218

[WalterBenitez]

Wasn't Chandler that ex Bulls that had a heart condition that came up when they were discusing a contract extension??

[mudyez]

no, that was curry

[spurspokesman]

No no and no on the joe smith talks. U kidding you want another 33 year old who has not aged well at all. If anything Wilcox would be the way to go for sure! Young (25 i believe) and plays with a lot of energy. Wilcox anyday over j.smith. Joe smith would not make us any better.
Thank you. Been saying it for months. No guards or swingman. Just an active big to breath life in the frontcourt and open up our shooters

[DBMethos]

Boooo!

[CP3AllDay]

All because Chandler failed his physical. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA PATHETIC!!!

It'll be pathetic when y'all get obliterated when the Crescent City Connection returns to San Antonio.

[coyotes_geek]

It'll be pathetic when y'all get obliterated when the Crescent City Connection returns to San Antonio.

Make sure you enjoy it this year because your owner is going to try to sell Chandler off again once the offseason comes.

[Dunc n Dave]

Didn't something similar happen with Sean and another team when we traded him?

Anyhow, I am betting we are looking at Wilcox.

Yes, it did happen to Elliott, but No, the Spurs were NOT involved.

It was when Detroit tried to trade Sean to Houston for Robert Horry, but the Rockets rescinded the trade after they found out about Sean's kidney problem. After that, no GM in the league would touch Sean, except the Spurs GM...

That's why the Pistons gave him back to us for nothing (Bill Curley and a pick) the following off season.