Could Rasho come back?

[Spurs Brazil]

Jeremy (Los Angeles): Any picks up in the Spurs near future? What is the outlook for the Spurs in this summer's free agent market?

John Hollinger: (3:35 PM ET ) A little early for free agent speculation -- it depends in part on whether they cut Bowen and Oberto (both have partial guarantees). As for short-term pickups, I think they'd definitely look at bringing back Rasho Nesterovic if he can reach a buyout deal with the Pacers.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=25127

[ManuTP9]

that would be nice

[Marcus Bryant]

Could this day get any worse?

[lebomb]

NO..............not RashO..........RashEED is who we want!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

For the minimum I take

[rayray2k8]

Could this day get any worse?

lmao
That would top the day.

[timvp]

Could this day get any worse?

:lol

[Slomo]

Could this day get any worse?

:lol you are the first person I thought about when I saw this thread.

[MarHill]

Could this day get any worse?


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

I'm falling out of my chair laughing at that.

I guess Marcus is not a Rasho fan!! :lol:lol

[Manufan909]

Rasho I better than what the Spurs currently have, so fuck it.

[SenorSpur]

Could this day get any worse?

:lol

Seriously though, I was gonna bring this up earlier. Don't you think he would provide some size and defense against the Fakers. Again, the Spurs just don't have the ability to matchup against them, as currently constructed. We saw this last year. To compound matters, the perimeter defense has fallen off considerably too.

[Brazil]

:lol

Timvp, time to photoshop a Rasho the savior !!!

[MarHill]

:lol

Seriously though, I was gonna bring this up earlier. Don't you think he would provide some size and defense against the Fakers. Again, the Spurs just don't have the ability to matchup against them, as currently constructed. We saw this last year. To compound matters, the perimeter defense has fallen off considerably too.

He is 7 ft though!!

I'm still laughing about Marcus' post!! :lol

[DBMethos]

Rasho = Championship?

[Spurminator]

Could this day get any worse?


AP: The Spurs announced today that "Y'all Ready For This" will become the official team fight song, to be played several times at every home game including during the starting lineup.

[SenorSpur]

He is 7 ft though!!

I'm still laughing about Marcus' post!! :lol

That shit was funny, wasn't it? :lol

I know Rasho is a scrub, but he could hold the fort until the Spurs go after Sheed in the offseason. I"ll take him for a seven-game series with the Fakers. Besides, it would be a smooth integration. He already knows the defense.

With the way teams are carving up the Spurs on the perimeter and getting to the rim, I'm just not comfortable with the way this team is defending. Call me crazy, but I'd welcome back Rasho for 1/2 season and a playoff run.

[Slomo]

Time for a Karl Mundt classic:

http://www.cikava.com/gallery/albums/Photoshop_madness/Rasfro_Neshaftovic.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

He would be great at that price.

[Texas_Ranger]

Get Rasho!!!

[Marcus Bryant]

AP: The Spurs announced today that "Y'all Ready For This" will become the official team fight song, to be played several times at every home game including during the starting lineup.


http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/7/78/SASpursLogo1990-2002.gif

All that would be left...

[lebomb]

Could this day get any worse?


AP: The Spurs to update their logo........... http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/7/78/SASpursLogo1990-2002.gif

[mardigan]

I'll take him. I've missed that patented hook shot.:lol

[ManuTP9]

http://i44.tinypic.com/nl3leg.jpg

[MarHill]

That shit was funny, wasn't it? :lol

I know Rasho is a scrub, but he could hold the fort until the Spurs go after Sheed in the offseason. I"ll take him for a seven-game series with the Fakers. Besides, it would be a smooth integration. He already knows the defense.

With the way teams are carving up the Spurs on the perimeter and getting to the rim, I'm just not comfortable with the way this team is defending. Call me crazy, but I'd welcome back Rasho for 1/2 season and a playoff run.

I must admit...I would agree with you.

But, we would have to hear Stephen A. Smith bag on Rasho for the playoffs and he can get very annoying!!

:lol

[lebomb]

Awwwww shit Marcus!!!! :lmao

[MarHill]

Time for a Karl Mundt classic:

http://www.cikava.com/gallery/albums/Photoshop_madness/Rasfro_Neshaftovic.jpg


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I've fallen out of my chair twice today!!

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Duncan2177]

Yea lets bring back a player that was soft and we traded, I remember when everyone hated Rasho and wanted him traded. :lol

[tmtcsc]

I'll take him. I've missed that patented hook shot.:lol

You mean the no look hook shot that hits the side of the backboard ?

[honestfool84]

Timvp, time to photoshop a Rasho the savior !!!

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/185/rashozp2.jpg

[mardigan]

But, we would have to hear Stephen A. Smith bag on Rasho for the playoffs

:lol

:lol
I have to admit, everytime I would hear him say his name it cracked me up.

[Manufan909]

Jeremy (Los Angeles): Any picks up in the Spurs near future? What is the outlook for the Spurs in this summer's free agent market?

John Hollinger: (3:35 PM ET ) A little early for free agent speculation -- it depends in part on whether they cut Bowen and Oberto (both have partial guarantees). As for short-term pickups, I think they'd definitely look at bringing back Rasho Nesterovic if he can reach a buyout deal with the Pacers.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=25127

So Hollinger is just making shit up at this point?

[mardigan]

You mean the no look hook shot that hits the side of the backboard ?


:lmao
Thats the one.

[ManuTP9]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/185/rashozp2.jpg

:lmao:lmao

[MarHill]

:lol
I have to admit, everytime I would hear him say his name it cracked me up.

Yeah..he said it this morning on First Take!

:lol

[coyotes_geek]

Yea lets bring back a player that was soft and we traded, I remember when everyone hated Rasho and wanted him traded. :lol

Was that before or after we saw matt bonner try to guard Andrew Bynum?

[MoSpur]

He's better at defense than Orberto and Bonner.

[Duncan2177]

Was that before or after we saw matt bonner try to guard Andrew Bynum?

Bynum would kill Rasho.

[GSH]

Could Rasho come back?

5. Why, is he dead?
4. No, but my lunch could.
3. Only if they can't convince Will Perdue to come out of retirement.
2. No, his mother said he can't play with us anymore.
1. "A touching story out of Texas. After his team abandoned him in Canada, this NBA center never quit trying to find them. Weak and scared, he arrived at the door of their training facility ready to play."

[Slomo]

Well at least this guy would be happy...

http://www.cikava.com/gallery/albums/Photoshop_madness/Bat_Rasho_fan.jpg

[coyotes_geek]

Bynum would kill Rasho.

Not nearly as bad as he kills Bonner.

[Brazil]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/185/rashozp2.jpg


:lmao thank you now we are ready for the POs

[Duncan2177]

Not nearly as bad as he kills Bonner.

True

[coyotes_geek]

Rasho, Beno and Nick Van Exel in the same picture. Ah the memories. Good times.

[Texas_Ranger]

Could Beno come back?

[timvp]

Well at least this guy would be happy...

http://www.cikava.com/gallery/albums/Photoshop_madness/Bat_Rasho_fan.jpgYou must have been quick to take that picture. Nice work. It's not everyday you get that rare footage.






















Of Rasho at the line :smokin

[Duncan2177]

Well at least this guy would be happy...

http://www.cikava.com/gallery/albums/Photoshop_madness/Bat_Rasho_fan.jpg

:lol

[MarHill]

could beno come back?


no

[Slomo]

...



Of Rasho at the line :smokin

Bastard!

:lmao

[Agloco]

Could this day get any worse?

:lol

[Blake]

it pains me that the Spurs have come to this.

it pains me more that I have to say that if the Spurs can get him for the right price they absolutely should.



I just threw up a bit in my mouth.

[Sigz]

We DID win a championship with Rasho...

[benefactor]

There is not much else we can do. We need size and Rasho would be re-acclimated quickly.

[flox]

It really depends, they use Rasho and Obie seems to like him, but if the doesn't start hibbert (hint: it's a good idea if they don't start hibbert), he's gonna get fired. Who knows. Rasho's been clutch with 20ft jumpers for the pacers this year (who knew?)

[objective]

Rasho may be a stiff, but if he's bought out he's a more useful stiff than Joe Smith. At least Rasho would know the system and not have any learning curve.

[Josepatches_]

Rasho could help Tim more than Oberto or Bonner.At least he can guard big man a few better

[meestahmeestah]

Rasho may be a stiff, but if he's bought out he's a more useful stiff than Joe Smith. At least Rasho would know the system and not have any learning curve.

my thoughts exactly. :toast he's still 7' tall right? and he's got 6 fouls a game? cool.

[GSH]

Rasho's been clutch with 20ft jumpers for the pacers this year (who knew?)

I haven't paid attention to what he is doing this year. But I used to watch him during warm-ups before games. He would stand and pump in those 20-footers like a freaking machine. More than once or twice he didn't miss a single one during warm-ups. But put a defender on him and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights. (Sort of like a deer in the headlights, but fluffier.)

For the longest time I held out hope that he would start hitting them in games. He would hit one or two, and I would think, "All right. He's gonna go off on them." But then again, I always hoped he was going to grab a ball at the rim and throw it back down, and then he would realize that he's really tall. Maybe he'd like it so much he'd start doing it all the time. Never happened.

[SenorSpur]

I must admit...I would agree with you.

But, we would have to hear Stephen A. Smith bag on Rasho for the playoffs and he can get very annoying!!

:lol


He already started. He was on ESPN this morning yakking how it wasn't surprising that the Pacers couldn't find any takers for his expiring contract because he's basically a scrub.

F Screamin' A. Smith. Rasho has blocked his share of shots and CAN hit an open jumper. I'll take him for a seven-game series with the Fakers.

[Kamnik]

Rasho sounds a gamble worth taking right now.

And im saying that with my Slovenian homer glases off.

[spurtech09]

better than nothing

[TheSpursFNRule]

is this really a possibility?

[MarHill]

He already started. He was on ESPN this morning yakking how it wasn't surprising that the Pacers couldn't find any takers for his expiring contract because he's basically a scrub.

F Screamin' A. Smith. Rasho has blocked his share of shots and CAN hit an open jumper. I'll take him for a seven-game series with the Fakers.

Yeah I heard him this morning!!

I must admit, Senor Spur I'm liking Rasho to come back to the Spurs.

He's 7 ft and can hit a jump shot and knows the system.

I can't believe I'm writing this though.....:lol

[PDXSpursFan]

Rasho > Bonner
Rasho > Oberto

I'll welcome him back at this point.

[Mugen]

Playing oberto more > bringing in Rasho or Moore

but Rasho on the cheap isnt the worst move they can make.

[024]

rasho would be better than nothing. nothing to lose here.

[SenorSpur]

Yeah I heard him this morning!!

I must admit, Senor Spur I'm liking Rasho to come back to the Spurs.

He's 7 ft and can hit a jump shot and knows the system.

I can't believe I'm writing this though.....:lol

MarHill,
For a half season, I'll take him. I don't want another playoff series of watching Tim having to combat 2 7-footers on both ends of the court.

[Pero]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/185/rashozp2.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Destro]

now that Pop knows what to expect out of him Rasho could work out great. A big problem with Rasho was that POp wanted a different set of skills than he had.

[024]

i went on looked on youtube for a rasho mix to remind myself how he played and look what i found:

nB2aG36PKds&

who made this mix?;)

[Thompson]

If Rasho came back, who would he match up with on the Lakers? Would he defend Bynum while Tim covered Gasol, or vice-versa? Could he at least slow the bleeding (I get tired of watching 7 foot Bynum or Gasol simply shooting over 6'10' Bonner or Thomas)?

[Texas_Ranger]

Rasho dunking...YEA BABY!!

Did he do the crab dribble on the last action?:blah

[Flux451]

I am down. He still has a high percentage field goal. Knows the system. Still 7ft. Has looked decent when we play him. Would bring back memories to see him play with tim. Thomas and Rasho would be interesting.

[crc21209]

I would welcome Rasho back as long as he just stood there, occupied space, played D, and dont take TOO many shots away from people who should be shooting. lol.

[Sigz]

I want Rasho.

[EricB]

The more you think about it, whats the team need?

A big 7 footer who can block shots and be a "presence" down on the defensive end?

Rasho at least did that.

He may have had his short comings but he was probobly the best defensive center this team has had post David Robinson I say pull the trigger if he wants to come back.

[ploto]

Rasho has played very well against the Lakers this season. JOB really likes him alot, but they are balancing trying to win with developing young players like Hibbert.

IF the Pacers were to buy out Rasho, the Spurs would have competition for his services- like from LA itself.

[EricB]

I would welcome Rasho back as long as he just stood there, occupied space, played D, and dont take TOO many shots away from people who should be shooting. lol.

Thats the thing, Rasho has a good offensive game, for some reason Pop would never go to him.

Its alot of the same thing with Finley right now.

You could get both into the game and have them playing well if you got em a couple jumpers at that free throw line.

I have zero qualms about bringing back Rasho Nesterovic.

[xtremesteven33]

Rasho would be a good addition. :tu

[EricB]

He could have number 88.

Bring back Rasho, hes a much better option than whats left out there.

[ploto]

I knew the day would come. :toast

[ChumpDumper]

I knew the day would come. :toastHe's much more desirable when he's not horribly overpriced. :toast

[EricB]

He's much more desirable when he's not horribly overpriced. :toast


Agreed.

I think that was everyone's attitude was.

Hes a good player, but not worth 8 some odd million.

[mystargtr34]

:lol

Before i say anything regarding this thread, i just want to commend you on your sig.

Thank you, sir.

[Bruno]

Four hours ago, Spurs' fans dream was Vince Carter. Now their dream is Rasho Nesterovic. Life is cruel. :lol

[Bartleby]

What's the realistic timetable for a Rasho buyout?

[xtremesteven33]

Four hours ago, Spurs' fans dream was Vince Carter. Now their dream is Rasho Nesterovic. Life is cruel. :lol


Life is funny.

Maybe things work out for the best. It seems to for the Spurs every other year. haha

[Texas_Ranger]

Four hours ago, Spurs' fans dream was Vince Carter. Now their dream is Rasho Nesterovic. Life is cruel. :lol

:lmao

[manustarting2gd]

http://www2.indystar.com/autofocus/photos/standard/2008/10/170221.jpgI could live a happy life without the purple lipped, dracula lookin, constantly making his mouth like blowing like he's playing an instrument when he's got the ball in the post , sorry ass RASHO NESTEROVIC...

[Bruno]

What's the realistic timetable for a Rasho buyout?

If Rasho isn't bought out before the end of the month, he won't be playoffs eligible.

[Phenomanul]

The more you think about it, whats the team need?

A big 7 footer who can block shots and be a "presence" down on the defensive end?

Rasho at least did that.

He may have had his short comings but he was probobly the best defensive center this team has had post David Robinson I say pull the trigger if he wants to come back.

The Spurs' defensive ppg averages were league leading when Rasho was paired up with Duncan...

[EricB]

He also averaged almost 8 and 7 boards a game as a Spur and that was playing 28 35 minutes a game.

Why the hell not?

[Agloco]

Before i say anything regarding this thread, i just want to commend you on your sig.

Thank you, sir.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/kyo.evolfire/SK16ATQ6duI/AAAAAAAAAZI/w_1RbV8q6FI/s800/18d1078fi04p.jpg

:toast

[mystargtr34]

Four hours ago, Spurs' fans dream was Vince Carter. Now their dream is Rasho Nesterovic. Life is cruel. :lol

Lol, true. But to be fair most wanted Carter out of desperation, not knowing the extent of Manu's injury. Now that Manu will be back soon, i dont think you mortgage the Spurs future by taking away all of their cap flexibility in 10/11 by paying a 34 year old $17.1M. Especially when the cap is likely to be less than it is now.

About Rasho, its funny how some people are whinging about his softness or about his offensive game. Hes 7 Feet tall, blocks shots, and even then has surprisingly good touch around the basket - all for around the minimum.

Would you rather Oberto, Bonner or Thomas defend Bynum, two who are generously listed at 6'10: and one guy 6'9". Or a 7 Foot guy whos actually known for his defense. As much as Rasho gets ragged on around here for his offense, hes a better offensive player than all 3 of those guys. Bonner can shoot the 3, in the regular season at least, but he also cant hit a layup when theres a defender within 10 feet of him.

Give me the 7 footer who plays defense for the minimum. A guy that can challenge a shot of a Bynum or a Gasol.

[EricB]

Rasho and KT going up against Bynum would do just fine.

[Agloco]

Four hours ago, Spurs' fans dream was Vince Carter. Now their dream is Rasho Nesterovic. Life is cruel. :lol

Yeah....that's what it's come to. Hoping for a "Rasho Re-run".

How the hell am I supposed to believe that this team is a contender when I'm seeing shit like this?

[EricB]

Yeah....that's what it's come to. Hoping for a "Rasho Re-run".

How the hell am I supposed to believe that this team is a contender when I'm seeing shit like this?


WTF did you want them to do?

Put a gun to the Clippers and Piston's heads and FORCE a fucking trade?

[rascal]

Rasho? Why revisit that failure. He played himself to the bench in his final year.

[EricB]

Rasho? Why revisit that failure. He played himself to the bench in his final year.


Why keep being a broken record?

Who the fuck are they supposed to sign?

What superstar are they supposed to force the other team to trade to them for now?

[Bruno]

For the record, I like the idea of Rasho for the min. I rather have him than Joe Smith or Mikki Moore.

Now, Rasho is still a Pacer and if he is waived, it's not sure that he wants to come back in SA. So, Rasho isn't an available option for the moment.

[mystargtr34]

Because the Spurs had another guy with size who was a better rebounder and offensive player. That guy was 6'10" and went about 265. Nazr Mohammed.

Right now, the Spurs dont have that.

Plus, Rasho @ $42 M was always going to be a failure, hes not that caliber player. For the minimum, there isnt a better option at this point.

[Thompson]

Why would the Pacers buy him out? How much would it save them at this point?

[HarlemHeat37]

Rasho is a good addition for a role player..I don't know why people are against him..

he's pretty much a bigger version of Kurt Thomas..

most important of all, he's a 7-footer..he brings us size, and he can take other bigs outside of the paint..

signing Rasho wouldn't be a bad thing at all, I would consider it to be a solid move, and would make up for not making a move at the deadline..

[rascal]

Because the Spurs had another guy with size who was a better rebounder and offensive player. That guy was 6'10" and went about 265. Nazr Mohammed.

Right now, the Spurs dont have that.

Plus, Rasho @ $42 M was always going to be a failure, hes not that caliber player. For the minimum, there isnt a better option at this point.

Rasho will not get the spurs past the Lakers.

[HarlemHeat37]

Rasho is actually a very good big to have vs. LA..he's big, and he can take one of their bigs outside of the paint..

[ChumpDumper]

Rasho will not get the spurs past the Lakers.So your suggestion is to sit and bitch as always.

[Mr. Body]

I'm not getting why Indiana buys him out. Has this been stated?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not getting why Indiana buys him out. Has this been stated?
Usually the buyout is slightly lower than the amount owed the player -- something like the prorated minimum for that player should he be signed again.

[mystargtr34]

Rasho will not get the spurs past the Lakers.

And Matt Bonner/Kurt Thomas/Oberto will?

Unless Kurt Thomas isnt finished growing yet, the Spurs need a 7 Footer. Like Sequ once said, not 6'10", not 6'11", 7 Fucking Feet.

[rascal]

So your suggestion is to sit and bitch as always.

No trade for an impact player then no championship. Rasho will not be a difference maker. And who says he is comomg to the Spurs anyways.

Pop did not even want to play him much in the playoffs in his last year.

[ChumpDumper]

No trade for an impact player then no championship. Rasho will not be a difference maker. And who says he is comomg to the Spurs anyways.

Pop did not even want to play him much in the playoffs in his last year.Sit and bitch.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not getting why Indiana buys him out. Has this been stated?

I swear - you and buy outs.

[HarlemHeat37]

rascal doesn't understand the concept of role players..

[rascal]

And Matt Bonner/Kurt Thomas/Oberto will?

Unless Kurt Thomas isnt finished growing yet, the Spurs need a 7 Footer. Like Sequ once said, not 6'10", not 6'11", 7 Fucking Feet.

He may be 7' but he can't jump.

Rasho will not be enough of a difference maker to get past the Lakers.

[mystargtr34]

I'm not getting why Indiana buys him out. Has this been stated?

I dont think we can expect a buyout if Jeff Fosters back continues to play up. Hes missed the last few games i think. Roy Hibbert is the only other real C on the roster. Although Murphy could play there.

[HarlemHeat37]

well Indiana has a slim chance of making the playoffs at this point..they're already behind, and Chicago-New York have improved their chances for the 8th seed..they might as well start playing Hibbert, since he's the future..

[Mr. Body]

No - I'm meaning, why are we expecting Indiana to buy him out? Simple question -- has this been stated anywhere, or just ST speculation?

[anjlbitz]

^ John Hollinger

[rascal]

rascal doesn't understand the concept of role players..


Adding a role player won't get you past the Lakers.

[Hollinger]

No - I'm meaning, why are we expecting Indiana to buy him out? Simple question -- has this been stated anywhere, or just ST speculation?

Check the first post of the thread.

[nkdlunch]

Adding a role player won't get you past the Lakers.

dreaming that Spurs will somehow get Sheed or Carter for Vaughn + Udoka won't either

[mystargtr34]

He may be 7' but he can't jump.

Rasho will not be enough of a difference maker to get past the Lakers.

That didnt stop him from averging two blocks a game for most of his career. There still isnt one guy in the league who defends Yao Ming better either. He has size, and good length.

You cant put 6'9" guys on 7'1" guys with good post games, ala Bynum and Gasol, and expect to have any sort of success. Right now, whats the Spurs biggest problem? Protecting the paint when Duncan sits, and defending opposing big men.

Rasho can limit those problems, Kurt Thomas, Matt Bonner and Oberto cant.

[Spursmania]

We got rid of him once for a reason. Pop always had to light a fire under his ass to get him going. We're bottom feeding now-but hell, I'll take Rasho if that's all we can do. It's gonna be a long playoff season...:ihit

[Mr. Body]

Check the first post of the thread.

That's it? That's all there is?

Eh...

[mystargtr34]

Adding a role player won't get you past the Lakers.

Again, the Lakers biggest advantage over the Spurs, or against any team for that matter, is their size. Rasho and Duncan together in spurts against Bynum and Pau, their size advantage is negated. I dont see how you can argue against this. It may not be the difference in the series, the point is it increases out chances or stopping them.

[Agloco]

WTF did you want them to do?

Put a gun to the Clippers and Piston's heads and FORCE a fucking trade?

How about shopping for this need in the offseason for starters...... wasn't as if we didn't know about this need before the season started. Hell, for the past couple of seasons for that matter.

The FO is always looking for bargain basement shit and now they've got a bench full of fucking corpses.

I guess Rasho is a good fit then......

[Russ]

I'd love to see Rasho back, but I wonder whether he would want to come.

Rasho was ascending when he signed with the Spurs and then went into a semi-decline.

On the other hand, he got a ring so maybe he would come back.

Great move for the Spurs if they can get him.

[Thompson]

Usually the buyout is slightly lower than the amount owed the player -- something like the prorated minimum for that player should he be signed again.

Sooo... Detroit is currently the 6th seed and they've lost 4 in a row... might they consider granting Rasheed's wish to go to the Spurs by buying him out? :p:

[ChumpDumper]

Sooo... Detroit is currently the 6th seed and they've lost 4 in a row... might they consider granting Rasheed's wish to go to the Spurs by buying him out? :p:The Pistons have much more room to play with under a salary cap that's expected to fall next season. It should be easier to work out a sign-and-trade with Sheed than Rasho.

[EricB]

How about shopping for this need in the offseason for starters...... wasn't as if we didn't know about this need before the season started. Hell, for the past couple of seasons for that matter.

The FO is always looking for bargain basement shit and now they've got a bench full of fucking corpses.

I guess Rasho is a good fit then......


Who was available in the offseason they could get??

I'm still waiting, and I have been for months, for the names that were available that they passed up and over for.

They were expecting Splitter to come, he didn't come, and that threw a huge wrench into their plans.

I don't know why thats not understood.

[angel_luv]

Having Sho back would be fantastic- a most unexpected blessing, should it ever occur. :)

[K-State Spur]

Rasho was actually better than a lot of people remember him. He was just vastly overpaid for his actual production and a terrible match-up against the Mavs/Suns - our two top competitors at the time.

[K-State Spur]

The Pistons have much more room to play with under a salary cap that's expected to fall next season. It should be easier to work out a sign-and-trade with Sheed than Rasho.

I'm not sure Sheed - at age 35 - will command more than the MLE, which would make a sign-and-trade unnecessary.

[Spur-Addict]

http://www.marclamonthill.com/mlhblog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/stephen.jpg

Raaaasshooo Nesterovic







You mean the no look hook shot that hits the side of the backboard ?

http://www.nba.com/media/raptors/rasho350heat_4.jpg

He's still a big upgrade seeing as how there still is a need at the 5.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not sure Sheed - at age 35 - will command more than the MLE, which would make a sign-and-trade unnecessary.If the Pistons want something back, they can still try to work a deal with him.

[Solid D]

http://www.marclamonthill.com/mlhblog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/stephen.jpg

Raaaasshooo Nesterovic

:lol Sweet.

[K-State Spur]

If the Pistons want something back, they can still try to work a deal with him.

they could. but then he becomes less desirable - suddenly he is getting paid more than the exception AND he costs you players/picks. if detroit can't move him, resigning him would make it much more difficult for them to offer a max deal (Boozer?) and fill out the remainder of their roster?

i'll be mildly surprised if they don't just tell him thanks for the good times, then let him walk.

[mystargtr34]

http://www.marclamonthill.com/mlhblog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/stephen.jpg

Raaaasshooo Nesterovic



That always cracked me up.

What about

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/slava_medvedenko-arton21088-240x240.jpg

SLAVA MEDVEDENKO!!!

[Manufan909]

I'd like Rasho back. He gives the Spurs the inside presence they need.

[crc21209]

Among the players most likely to be both available and desirable, here's a top nine of sorts:

Drew Gooden, Sacramento: The Kings would gladly take a discount to buy him out. Which makes you wonder if Cleveland would want him back to shore up its frontcourt -- they're familiar with him, after all, for better or worse. The only sticking point here is Gooden's groin injury, which might keep him shelved too long for contenders to be interested.

Chris Mihm, Memphis: Here today after a trade from the Lakers, and possibly gone tomorrow. It sure seems to me somebody could use a 7-foot big man with a soft shooting touch for the playoffs, even if Mihm has hardly played the past three years.

Rasho Nesterovic, Indiana: Another 7-footer who can make shots and has a championship ring; he's familiar with San Antonio's system from his time down there and would make a nice addition to the size-starved Spurs for their playoff run.

Bobby Jackson, Sacramento: A veteran guard familiar with the playoff wars from his previous tour of duty with the Kings, Jackson could answer Boston's need for scoring off the bench while Tony Allen is on the shelf.

Jason Collins, Minnesota: He doesn't score, he doesn't rebound; heck, he barely even moves. But you have to think some Western GMs have noticed how well he's defended Shaquille O'Neal in the past, and how useful that might be in a playoff series against Phoenix.

Sam Cassell, free agent: Already released by Sacramento, he's now free to pursue any deal that suits him. I'm guessing Boston is off the list, but perhaps the Hornets could find enough loose change in their wallets to take a look at him.

Jerry Stackhouse, Dallas: Unlike the others on this list, he's already on a playoff contender. But he hasn't played for the Mavs since the second week of the season and has only $2 million guaranteed for next year. Any buyout savings would effectively double for the Mavs since they're well over the luxury-tax line, giving them extra incentive to make a deal. However, word has it that Stack is going nowhere.

Chucky Atkins, Oklahoma City: Another player with only a partial guarantee for next year, Atkins is a misfit in the Thunder's youth movement. Given the demand for veteran point guards to fill out rosters at this time of year, Atkins could find himself beating away suitors should he be released.

Jason Williams, L.A. Clippers: Technically retired, word is that he filed for reinstatement with the league today. If so, the Clippers would likely reach a buyout agreement with him that could allow him to return to the Miami Heat, who are in search of a veteran backup point guard to help out Mario Chalmers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-090219

[crc21209]

I wouldnt be against Rasho, hell, we NEED another 7 ft body to throw at the Gasol's, Shaq's and possibly Bynums of the world, sign him up!

[Manufan909]

Bet he could eat that constipated fucker on the Celts for lunch. Come on Rasho!!! Get bought out.

[MI21]

Rasho was one of the most offensively frustrating players to watch in recent Spurs history. The fact he would make good position and then miss a 3ft marshmallow of a shot. The fact he would play so well offensively when Tim was injured made him even more frustrating. The fact that both before and after joining the Spurs, his jumpshot seemed to fall. Defensively though, he was fine. A tad soft occasionally, but a good defender.

For the minimum, or there abouts, he is an absolute bargain. For the $42M he was getting paid, he was an albatross around the Spurs neck.

I'd be all for Rasho at a reduced rate.

(Don't forget guys, a big part of the reason Tony is/was so good was because of Rashos incredible screens :lol)

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Rasho was actually better than a lot of people remember him. He was just vastly overpaid for his actual production and a terrible match-up against the Mavs/Suns - our two top competitors at the time.

Exactly, he was better than most people give him credit for right now.

He was obtained when D-Rob retired because at the time the Spurs needed to match up with Shaq's Lakers, however, the powers in the west changed shortly after that and our main rivals were the Suns and Mavs who we're running teams with not much low post threat, thus the downfall of Rasho who was not suited to play much and have impact against these teams, which meant his contract was horrible for what he could give.

Right now, with teams like Lakers, Suns, Hornets, Blazers, Rockets all having good low post players the presense of another 7 footer like Rasho, especially on a min contract, would be invaluable.

[baseline bum]

Rasho would be nice to have back. He'd give the team a shot-blocker who could come in and play a few minutes a night, and he was always great for the Spurs against Yao. You can't teach size.

[mystargtr34]

Look at us salivating over Raaasho Nesterovic.

[mogrovejo]

Larry Bird and the Simons don't like to offer buy-outs. I doubt Rasho becomes available.

[benefactor]

Look at us salivating over Raaasho Nesterovic.
What's that old saying about beggers and choosers? :downspin:

[EricB]

Hes a good center for the price that he would come back at .

Simple as that.

[benefactor]

Hes a good center for the price that he would come back at .

Simple as that.
Pretty much. It comes down to him being the best of what is left on the market...and he already knows the system. People who would think this is a bad move need to yank their head out of their derriere.

[spurspokesman]

If he is A possibility make it happen. On his worst day rasho rebounds and defends better than all of our bigs put together. (duncan excluded.) I love my spurs but I dont think ill want to watch the beating we take down low from some of the other elites in the playoffs without someone to at least breath life into that horrible frontcourt of ours.

[EricB]

Rasho does not rebound better than Duncan.......

[smeagol]

No trade for an impact player then no championship. Rasho will not be a difference maker. And who says he is comomg to the Spurs anyways.

Pop did not even want to play him much in the playoffs in his last year.

You are like if GW and Sequ's had a son . . . only even more annoying

[Whisky Dog]

I don't know why he'd want to come back. Pop basically benched him against the Mavs in the PO then traded him for Bonner. Why would he want to rejoin the Spurs again?

[coyotes_geek]

I don't know why he'd want to come back. Pop basically benched him against the Mavs in the PO then traded him for Bonner. Why would he want to rejoin the Spurs again?

Because he's seen how life is on the Raptors and Pacers. And unlike 2006 the Spurs main threat is a team against which a guy like Rasho would come in handy.

[MarHill]

Look at us salivating over Raaasho Nesterovic.

I know...I can't believe it!

:lol

But you can't teach size and he would definitely help Timmy.

The question is would Pop and RC go back and get him if he's bought out from the Pacers????????

[Whisky Dog]

Because he's seen how life is on the Raptors and Pacers. And unlike 2006 the Spurs main threat is a team against which a guy like Rasho would come in handy.

He would be nice depth at the C for the min, but even IF he is bought out it's very possible he has negative associations with his time in SA. I don't know for sure, but I'm not counting on him wanting to return when there would be a couple of other contenders interested as well. A decent defensive big with title experience for around the min should attract more interest than just the Spurs.

[coyotes_geek]

He would be nice depth at the C for the min, but even IF he is bought out it's very possible he has negative associations with his time in SA. I don't know for sure, but I'm not counting on him wanting to return when there would be a couple of other contenders interested as well. A decent defensive big with title experience for around the min should attract more interest than just the Spurs.

Agreed.

[nkdlunch]

I am down with bringing him back with a max 1 year contract and the min.

let's see if he's got anything left...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/nkdlunch/pic1.jpg

[MarHill]

He would be nice depth at the C for the min, but even IF he is bought out it's very possible he has negative associations with his time in SA. I don't know for sure, but I'm not counting on him wanting to return when there would be a couple of other contenders interested as well. A decent defensive big with title experience for around the min should attract more interest than just the Spurs.

Good point.....but Pop would have to do a great sales job to get him back.

The question is does Pop want to go there if he comes available???

:flag:

[MarHill]

He would be nice depth at the C for the min, but even IF he is bought out it's very possible he has negative associations with his time in SA. I don't know for sure, but I'm not counting on him wanting to return when there would be a couple of other contenders interested as well. A decent defensive big with title experience for around the min should attract more interest than just the Spurs.

Also, I believe the Spurs have 2 mil or so left on the mix of the MLE and LLE. So they would have to give that to him and guarantee next season as well for starters.

[rasho8]

BRING BACK RASHO!!

I have my Slovenia jersey Kori was gracious enough to let me have... lets bring back number 8!!!

[pad300]

Also, I believe the Spurs have 2 mil or so left on the mix of the MLE and LLE. So they would have to give that to him and guarantee next season as well for starters.

Where the heck does that come from? The spurs have roughly 2 million in room below the lux tax line. They have part of the MLE (~2 million) and the LLE (~2 million) available, and of course, you can sign anybody for the vet min, no matter your tax/cap position.
Unless offered much more money, Rasho would be an idiot to take a contract that extends beyond this season after being bought out. While he is not getting another big contract (eg his current ~ 8 million/year), he could get something like 10 Million/3 years in the offseason if he is an FA. No one will give him anything close to that at this point in the season.
If Rasho is bought out, he'll be looking at a 1 year pro-rated contract, most likely for the vet minimum. He'll chose between whatever offers he gets on the basis of fit into the team and championship odds...Which should make SA pretty attractive. There was never any bad blood that I was aware of between Rasho and Popovich; the only reason he was traded was because of his oversized contract.

[EricB]

BRING BACK RASHO!!

I have my Slovenia jersey Kori was gracious enough to let me have... lets bring back number 8!!!


8 is taken VVVVVV :smokin

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd take Rasho back in this scenario. Given the Spurs defensive needs, another big man would seem vital to any championship aspirations the team might have. 7 footers who can legitimately defend aren't easy to find; Rasho just happens to be one of the few on the planet who can do that. Certainly, it's not like going out and finding an all-league defender, but it's a whole lot better (IMO) than thinking that Mikki Moore might be a solution.

Along with the "knowing the system" stuff -- and I suspect that we're talking more about being better able to quickly relearn the system than a rote knowledge of what the Spurs do -- the bigger point is that Rasho could come in without disrupting any team chemistry. He's not a rock-the-boat guy, from what I can tell, but more importantly, it sure seems like the guys who are left from the years that Rasho was here really like him. That's not insignificant.

[angel_luv]

8 is taken VVVVVV :smokin

I want Sho to be number 82 next because then he'll have been all the numbers off my birthday month, day, and year. :)

8/12/82

[EricB]

I'd take Rasho back in this scenario. Given the Spurs defensive needs, another big man would seem vital to any championship aspirations the team might have. 7 footers who can legitimately defend aren't easy to find; Rasho just happens to be one of the few on the planet who can do that. Certainly, it's not like going out and finding an all-league defender, but it's a whole lot better (IMO) than thinking that Mikki Moore might be a solution.

Along with the "knowing the system" stuff -- and I suspect that we're talking more about being better able to quickly relearn the system than a rote knowledge of what the Spurs do -- the bigger point is that Rasho could come in without disrupting any team chemistry. He's not a rock-the-boat guy, from what I can tell, but more importantly, it sure seems like the guys who are left from the years that Rasho was here really like him. That's not insignificant.

On top of that, he would make the offense better with his screens. Mason coming off a Rasho screen would be awesome. Also him rotating over to a driving player is gonna be more intimidating than Bonner most obviously.

[EricB]

I want Sho to be number 82 next because then he'll have been all the numbers off my birthday month, day, and year. :)

8/12/82


I like the idea of 88 better.

[HarlemHeat37]

big body, makes the mid-range J consistently, good passer, knows the system..sounds great to me..

[EricB]

big body, makes the mid-range J consistently, good passer, knows the system..sounds great to me..

Yeah cross your fingers the Spurs will want him back, he gets bought out by Indiana, and everything works out.

[angel_luv]

I like the idea of 88 better.

Fine, so long as Sho comes back here. :)

[ata]

Where the heck does that come from? The spurs have roughly 2 million in room below the lux tax line. They have part of the MLE (~2 million) and the LLE (~2 million) available, and of course, you can sign anybody for the vet min, no matter your tax/cap position.
Unless offered much more money, Rasho would be an idiot to take a contract that extends beyond this season after being bought out. While he is not getting another big contract (eg his current ~ 8 million/year), he could get something like 10 Million/3 years in the offseason if he is an FA. No one will give him anything close to that at this point in the season.
If Rasho is bought out, he'll be looking at a 1 year pro-rated contract, most likely for the vet minimum. He'll chose between whatever offers he gets on the basis of fit into the team and championship odds...Which should make SA pretty attractive. There was never any bad blood that I was aware of between Rasho and Popovich; the only reason he was traded was because of his oversized contract.

I like Rasho very much, however I doubt that he will get offer like this. If Zeke would still be knicks GM, than maybe....

[Mavs<Spurs]

Agreed.

I think that was everyone's attitude was.

Hes a good player, but not worth 8 some odd million.

+ 1


And he would help defend the paint, block shots, alter shots. He can help defensive rebound some. And he knows the system.

It would improve our interior defense which is so bad. And as another poster noted, Tim would not have to combat two 7 footers on both ends of the court. Against several teams, especially against the Lakers, we will need a big that can actually guard the paint.

He can start.

He's serviceable.

Yes, it has come to this.

:lol

[Fermixalot]

i think he's probably the best Big that is available right now. He fits the needs of team pretty well right now (in contrast with the 2006 need, i.e. Dirk)

If we can pick him up, I'm all for it.

[kskonn]

I was doing some looking around the internet and found this interview from last summer. Rasho says once his current contract is up he would return to europe and play. Maybe this would be what he did if he was bought out?

Link:
http://www.talkbasket.net/interviews/rasho-nesterovic-about-trade-to-indiana-and-national-team.html

[remingtonbo2001]

Look at us salivating over Raaasho Nesterovic.

Angel Luv has been dreaming of the day.

I hope the Spurs bring him back. His defense and offensive rebounding (tip outs) were greatly underappreciated.

[Manufan909]

So anymore news on the buyout, or did Holl unintentionally give us Spurs fans false hope?

[PDXSpursFan]

Someone on the Pacers forum posted a good argument on why a buyout is very unlikely. The issue is that the Pacers are in the middle of arbitration for denying Tinsley's buyout.

[pad300]

I like Rasho very much, however I doubt that he will get offer like this. If Zeke would still be knicks GM, than maybe....

Don't know. Non-cancerous veteran 7 foot center, good team mate, does what his coach wants him too. Acceptably productive...He'll be 33 next year, and such a contract would take him to 35. No injury history, and big men deteriorate slower. We are paying Oberto and Bonner both 10M$/3Years, and KT 8M$/2years... Rasho might get more than 10M$/3yrs...

[ata]

My bad. I've misunderstood as 10Mil/year for 3 years.
10Mil/3years is reasonible

[EricB]

Someone on the Pacers forum posted a good argument on why a buyout is very unlikely. The issue is that the Pacers are in the middle of arbitration for denying Tinsley's buyout.

Because Tinsley is a pile of trash.

[MarHill]

Where the heck does that come from? The spurs have roughly 2 million in room below the lux tax line. They have part of the MLE (~2 million) and the LLE (~2 million) available, and of course, you can sign anybody for the vet min, no matter your tax/cap position.
Unless offered much more money, Rasho would be an idiot to take a contract that extends beyond this season after being bought out. While he is not getting another big contract (eg his current ~ 8 million/year), he could get something like 10 Million/3 years in the offseason if he is an FA. No one will give him anything close to that at this point in the season.
If Rasho is bought out, he'll be looking at a 1 year pro-rated contract, most likely for the vet minimum. He'll chose between whatever offers he gets on the basis of fit into the team and championship odds...Which should make SA pretty attractive. There was never any bad blood that I was aware of between Rasho and Popovich; the only reason he was traded was because of his oversized contract.


Okay, I stand corrected!

I just thought that Rasho would want a guarantee past the rest of the season if he re-signed here. Also, I was looking at from the Spurs standpoint of trading a guy and then bringing him back.

I never thought there was any bad blood between Rasho and Pop. I understood that he was traded for financial reasons.

I can see your point he could probably get more money after the season.

Excuse me!!! :lol

[Blake]

if the Spurs sign Rasho, then they absolutely have to sign Nazr too.

The slew of ensuing Rasho vs Nazr threads would make my life much more complete.

[coyotes_geek]

if the Spurs sign Rasho, then they absolutely have to sign Nazr too.

The slew of ensuing Rasho vs Nazr threads would make my life much more complete.

Nazr can dunk and is therefore better.

[Ice009]

I knew the day would come. :toast

It has a lot to do with that he was being paid. I did not like him at all with his salary before, but at a lower salary I have no problem with resigning Rasho.

I'd say Rasho has developed his game and gotten better away from the Spurs. I haven't watched him play much at all really, but I'm just going by stats and stuff I read about the leadership role he seemed to take on at Toronto. What do you think? Has he gotten better? More confident?

[phxspurfan]

i went on looked on youtube for a rasho mix to remind myself how he played and look what i found:

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who made this mix?;)

It looks like the same four highlights over and over again.

[Manufan909]

THe dif opponents kind of give it away. And he's a 7' Eastern Euro C, how many dunks is he supposed to have in his arsenal?

[phxspurfan]

I don't know why he'd want to come back. Pop basically benched him against the Mavs in the PO then traded him for Bonner. Why would he want to rejoin the Spurs again?





http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/hockey2306/1-1.jpg

[mystargtr34]

You know your not exciting when your highlight reel consists of tap outs for offensive rebounds and open 18 footers.

[underdawg]

You know your not exciting when your highlight reel consists of tap outs for offensive rebounds and open 18 footers.

I don't know if this has already been said 100 times, but I'll say it for the 101st - why would we want this slow, plodding, unathletic, mentally weak player back on our squad again? Yeah he's 7', but I can't remember how many times he was out rebounded by smaller players (sound familiar?) By the way, I think he's a nice guy but we need help not old buddies.

[K-State Spur]

I don't know if this has already been said 100 times, but I'll say it for the 101st - why would we want this slow, plodding, unathletic, mentally weak player back on our squad again? Yeah he's 7', but I can't remember how many times he was out rebounded by smaller players (sound familiar?) By the way, I think he's a nice guy but we need help not old buddies.

he was better than you remember him. he played good post defense (both on ball and help) was a bigger offensive threat than Oberto.

the issue with Rasho wasn't that he wasn't any good whatsoever - the problem was that he was overpaid and a terrible match-up against our two biggest competitors (Mavs and Suns) at the time. However, the Lakers/Jazz/Hornets/Celtics all sport bigger line-ups where some added size would help.

all that said, I'm not sure that Rasho would be able to eat into any of KT or Bonner's minutes (maybe Fab's). But he's a better option than Pops.

[mystargtr34]

Since Foster came back from injury. Rasho's minutes...

Feb 22 - 5.04 Mins
Feb 23 - 6.10 Mins

[Manufan909]

Hope that means the coach/GM decides he's not worth it.