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desflood
02-20-2009, 02:09 PM
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80552670/

Somebody disprove this. I hate to believe anything from ebaums.

PM5K
02-20-2009, 02:55 PM
Who gives a shit, I have cable and a DTV ready set. Poor people deserve to be spied on, but nobody wants to anyway...

JudynTX
02-20-2009, 03:03 PM
Who gives a shit, I have cable and a DTV ready set. Poor people deserve to be spied on, but nobody wants to anyway...

My conspiracy buddies say cameras are also being placed in newer HDTV's, not just the digital cable boxes. :wow

ChumpDumper
02-20-2009, 03:50 PM
If you know so much about electronics then focus your fucking camera.:lol

phyzik
02-20-2009, 04:50 PM
Its not true. Sadly, I used to work for Time Warner and I've opened boxes before. There is no camera, although it was fun to mess with people and think their was.

The way we knew what was going on (weather the box was turned off/on, weather it was plugged in, what channel you where watching) was a piece of software that gave us that data. Just like remotely connecting to a router for configuration.

If your that paranoid, TWC has a RF extender cable so you can put the box in a closet and just have the extender exposed so you can change the channel. If anyone is curious, thats what the USB port is for.

FBI
02-20-2009, 05:55 PM
Of course there is no truth to this rumor. None. Nope. Nothing here to see, move on.

Dex
02-20-2009, 06:28 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao

MannyIsGod
02-20-2009, 06:34 PM
:lmao

People who fall for this are pretty clueless imo.

Mr Dio
02-22-2009, 12:28 AM
:lmao

People who fall for this are pretty clueless imo.


The hammer hit the nail dead on!
You did see who started this thread, right? :lol

Strike
02-22-2009, 08:52 AM
My conspiracy buddies say cameras are also being placed in newer HDTV's, not just the digital cable boxes. :wow

That's too bad. Does that mean someone is watching me jack off to Barely Legal porn?

desflood
02-22-2009, 01:46 PM
What's that, Dio? You'll have to speak up, I can't hear you.

Mr Dio
02-22-2009, 02:43 PM
Did I just hear some barking? :lol


Wow, took time out from hugging Leo'Tard's nutz to spend time with me??? :lol

Evan
02-22-2009, 03:45 PM
Comcast Wants to Put a Camera in Your Cable Box


Before you start freaking out, hold on. They just wanna know who's in your living room. That's all. It's for a really cool features, really! When you turn on your TV, the box will recognize you and make recommendations or pull up shows in your profile. Still not sold? Well, if it detects kiddies in the room, parental controls will pop up to block naughty content. Oh yeah, and it'll serve up custom ads, just for you. Awesome-o, right? Well, don't get too excited, it's still in testing. [NewTeeVee]

http://gizmodo.com/369379/comcast-wants-to-put-a-camera-in-your-cable-box

Comcast considers creepy new addition to the set top box


I have never been one of the tinfoil hat crowd in the past, but that could change –especially in light of the comments made by Comcast’s Gerard Kunkel, senior VP of user experience, to reporter Chris Albrecht of NewTeeVee.com. Mr. Kunkel mentioned an experiment with different camera technologies built into the cable box that would be able to tell who is in the room watching television.

Satellite Cable Boxes With Camera Surveillance Systems to Monitor Public in Homes


There are many uses for the home surveillance units, advertisers like to monitor the publics response to adverts when they come on as well as governmental agencies who like to monitor the publics opinions to news programs as well as gossip on everyday issues.

"We have had these systems in place for a very long time and there is nothing for the general public to worry about. The surveillance is actually for the publics own safety and you should be pleased that we have been monitoring you daily in your living rooms," Arnold Weiss, a spokesman for a local Chicago cable company told Fox news.

Some members of the British public have not been happy with being monitored in their own homes and have complained to the Surveillance Ombudsman but according to the chief campaigner for Liberty Against Intrusion, Mike Wallace "nothing has been done".

Can my cable company see me through my TV screen?


Can my cable company really see me through my TV screen? The answer is no, yes and definitely! Let me explain. The TV is composed mainly of two sensory related technologies, specifically sound and sight. One is audio (sound) the other is video (sight). Let's examine video. Video technology, or the movie, was first invented by Thomas Alva Edison. During his experiments, Edison found that the light images coming in through the camera lens and out through the projector to the screen were identical as both used light to work. In a TV, the same principles are at work. The camera lens is a "light gathering" device which takes the light that hits it and converts it into an electrical signal. The signal is sent over the cable lines to your TV which converts it back to an image which is then projected onto the back of the TV screen. Because of this use of light at both ends of the TV transmission system, a camera can be used as a TV monitor (screen) and a TV monitor (screen) can be used as a camera. To prove that your TV can and does act as a "light gathering" camera, all you need to do is the following: 1) Get a flashlight with fresh batteries. 2) In a completely dark room, ideally at night, get right up to your TV with the lights out and the TV turned off. 3) Place the flashlight right on the TV screen. 4) Turn the flashlight on and hold it with the light facing the TV for at least 10 seconds 5) Turn the flashlight off first, then quickly remove it from the TV screen. What you see, where the flashlight had been placed, is proof of the "light gathering" capabilities of a TV screen. I prefer to call it the "TV Screen Camera." This is a very simple test, but with more advanced techniques and equipment, such as the kind the cable companies have developed and now possess, they can get a clear picture of what is going on in your room. With their advanced tools they gather light that bounces off of things and people in the room, which hits the TV screen, and presents an image back to them. Now you know it works. Getting on to the question of can your cable company see you through your TV screen. It depends................

http://wronganswers.com/detail/index.asp?item=124

phyzik
02-23-2009, 09:23 AM
Can my cable company really see me through my TV screen? The answer is no, yes and definitely! Let me explain. The TV is composed mainly of two sensory related technologies, specifically sound and sight. One is audio (sound) the other is video (sight). Let's examine video. Video technology, or the movie, was first invented by Thomas Alva Edison. During his experiments, Edison found that the light images coming in through the camera lens and out through the projector to the screen were identical as both used light to work. In a TV, the same principles are at work. The camera lens is a "light gathering" device which takes the light that hits it and converts it into an electrical signal. The signal is sent over the cable lines to your TV which converts it back to an image which is then projected onto the back of the TV screen. Because of this use of light at both ends of the TV transmission system, a camera can be used as a TV monitor (screen) and a TV monitor (screen) can be used as a camera. To prove that your TV can and does act as a "light gathering" camera, all you need to do is the following: 1) Get a flashlight with fresh batteries. 2) In a completely dark room, ideally at night, get right up to your TV with the lights out and the TV turned off. 3) Place the flashlight right on the TV screen. 4) Turn the flashlight on and hold it with the light facing the TV for at least 10 seconds 5) Turn the flashlight off first, then quickly remove it from the TV screen. What you see, where the flashlight had been placed, is proof of the "light gathering" capabilities of a TV screen. I prefer to call it the "TV Screen Camera." This is a very simple test, but with more advanced techniques and equipment, such as the kind the cable companies have developed and now possess, they can get a clear picture of what is going on in your room. With their advanced tools they gather light that bounces off of things and people in the room, which hits the TV screen, and presents an image back to them. Now you know it works. Getting on to the question of can your cable company see you through your TV screen. It depends................

http://wronganswers.com/detail/index.asp?item=124

:lmao

Someone should kick your ass if you believe that shit. By that logic, we should all be able to see each other over the internet seeing as a computer monitor is a "light gathering device" :rollin

Have you EVER seen the inside of a TV? Its basically a projector. a one-way image being displayed on a screen. There is no 2-way throughput. what your saying is akin to saying if you point a flashlight at a mirror, the light being reflected back at the flashlight is going to recharge the batteries.

Of course, what would one expect from a website called WRONG answers because it is definitely wrong.

florige
02-23-2009, 09:52 AM
:lmao

Someone should kick your ass if you believe that shit. By that logic, we should all be able to see each other over the internet seeing as a computer monitor is a "light gathering device" :rollin

Have you EVER seen the inside of a TV? Its basically a projector. a one-way image being displayed on a screen. There is no 2-way throughput. what your saying is akin to saying if you point a flashlight at a mirror, the light being reflected back at the flashlight is going to recharge the batteries.

Of course, what would one expect from a website called WRONG answers because it is definitely wrong.





You fools! Thats what "they" want you to think.

Obstructed_View
02-23-2009, 04:09 PM
Have you EVER seen the inside of a TV? Its basically a projector. a one-way image being displayed on a screen.

Actually it's an electron gun shooting at a phosphor coated screen. A flat screen TV is a layer of liquid crystals and a grid of electrodes sandwiched between a couple of pieces of glass. A speaker and a microphone operate the same way, so one could be used as the other, but that doesn't work with video.

Evan
02-24-2009, 08:08 AM
:lmao

Someone should kick your ass if you believe that shit. By that logic, we should all be able to see each other over the internet seeing as a computer monitor is a "light gathering device" :rollin

Have you EVER seen the inside of a TV? Its basically a projector. a one-way image being displayed on a screen. There is no 2-way throughput. what your saying is akin to saying if you point a flashlight at a mirror, the light being reflected back at the flashlight is going to recharge the batteries.

Of course, what would one expect from a website called WRONG answers because it is definitely wrong.

I never said I believe it...I was just posting write ups to show whether its right or wrong the thought is out there .

Dex
02-24-2009, 11:25 AM
Actually it's an electron gun shooting at a phosphor coated screen. A flat screen TV is a layer of liquid crystals and a grid of electrodes sandwiched between a couple of pieces of glass. A speaker and a microphone operate the same way, so one could be used as the other, but that doesn't work with video.

Suuuuuure it can.

It's called 'reverse technology'. It's not our fault if you can't understand it.

Now where's my tinfoil hat?

Obstructed_View
02-24-2009, 02:31 PM
It's called 'reverse technology'. It's not our fault if you can't understand it.


Oh yeah, they sell those at Radio Shack.

:lol

It's constantly amazing how simple-minded people manage to take a large number of over-simplified concepts and combine them to make them complicated.

desflood
02-24-2009, 04:41 PM
Hoax alert: Is your DTV converter watching you?
Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:31PM EST

Seen the YouTube video that shows a guy cracking open his new DTV converter box, only to find a tiny camera and microphone hidden inside? Where's my tin foil hat?

Wired has the scoop on the popular YouTube video, which was first posted last week and has racked up more than 230,000 views so far.

In the 97-second video (which you can find right here), we see a shaky-cam shot of a new Magnavox DTV converter box—the kind you'd need to receive over-the-air digital TV signals on an older analog TV.

The guy behind the camera explains that a friend warned him that "they put cameras in these things ... you set it on your TV and someone, the government or whoever, has the ability to spy on you."

The man then opens the DTV box, points at a black box soldered on the circuit board, and proclaims that "lo and behold ... as you can see, right here, is the camera unit." He goes on to point out a flat, pea-sized component that's the "microphone," and promises to check out some different makes of DTV boxes to see "if this is an ongoing trend."

Ah ha, I knew it! This whole DTV transition thing has smelled fishy from the get-go, and now we know why: These boxes are nothing more than Trojan horses designed so "they" watch our every move. Right?

Well, hold on. Wired tracked down the creator of the video—a 28-year-old software engineer named Adam Chronister—who now admits that yes, it's just a hoax. No tiny camera, no microphone—although Chronister claims that a pal did, indeed, tell him the rumor about the hidden DTV camera.

Dex
02-24-2009, 05:04 PM
Wait, this is fake?

I just finished painting my entire apartment green so that the camera wouldn't be able to see anything.

Mr Dio
02-25-2009, 11:23 PM
The sky is falling the sky is falling!!! :lmao

Starting this thread proves that common sense, isn't so common. :lmao