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Ditty
02-21-2009, 02:48 AM
I was looking at the spurs past draft picks of the last few years and looking at the players that where there when it was our time to pick, and this draft seemed to have the most talent after we drafted

we could of kept leandro barbosa
or got josh howard
or mo williams

except i forgot what we got in return for barbosa:(

which of these 3 players. who of would of made the most difference to our team and who should they have picked orginally?

:flag:

ATX Spur
02-21-2009, 03:23 AM
It's hard to argue with the results. The Spurs got a future first-rounder for Barbosa, the one they sent to the Knicks in the Nazr Mohammed trade. Nazr was key for the Spurs in the 05 playoffs.

I'll take the title in 2005 any day, you can keep Mo Williams.

mystargtr34
02-21-2009, 03:32 AM
Barbosa is horrible in a half court offense - that would have been a nightmare. Josh Howard, i thought they should have taken, since he dominated college.

Chieflion
02-21-2009, 04:51 AM
Should have taken Josh Howard, who could be traded for other prospects and future picks.

timvp
02-21-2009, 04:53 AM
Josh Howard failed the vetting process when RC Buford discovered that Howard got a 500 on the SAT.

afireinside20
02-21-2009, 04:54 AM
Josh Howard would've been good for us.

Chieflion
02-21-2009, 05:01 AM
Josh Howard failed the vetting process when RC Buford discovered that Howard got a 500 on the SAT.

If he would be traded, I don't think Buford should have given a hoot.

BWS-1994
02-21-2009, 07:39 AM
It's hard to argue with the results. The Spurs got a future first-rounder for Barbosa, the one they sent to the Knicks in the Nazr Mohammed trade. Nazr was key for the Spurs in the 05 playoffs.

I'll take the title in 2005 any day, you can keep Mo Williams.

IIRC, that 1st rounder to NYK got them David Lee?

But yeah, I'll take that 2005 title anytime :toast

Thomas82
02-21-2009, 08:27 AM
Barbosa is horrible in a half court offense - that would have been a nightmare. Josh Howard, i thought they should have taken, since he dominated college.

Tim Duncan actually pushed hard that year for the Spurs to get Josh Howard.

Summers
02-21-2009, 08:36 AM
Josh Howard failed the vetting process when RC Buford discovered that Howard got a 500 on the SAT.

:lol That can't be true.

Is that true??


Tim Duncan actually pushed hard that year for the Spurs to get Josh Howard.

I remember reading that, too.

Solid D
02-21-2009, 12:09 PM
I was looking at the spurs past draft picks of the last few years and looking at the players that where there when it was our time to pick, and this draft seemed to have the most talent after we drafted

we could of kept leandro barbosa
or got josh howard
or mo williams

except i forgot what we got in return for barbosa:(

which of these 3 players. who of would of made the most difference to our team and who should they have picked orginally?

:flag:

Just to add to ATX's response....In return for Barbosa's rights, the Spurs received a conditional 1st round pick that ended up being the 2005 #30 pick. That pick ended up being traded with Malik Rose to the NY Knicks along with a 2006 1st round pick for Nazr Mohammed. The 30th pick in 2005 ended up beig David Lee. The pick in 2006 ended up being Mardy Collins.

The Spurs won a championship, beating Denver, Seattle, Phoenix and Detroit with Nazr Mohammed's help...although, Spurs fans will never know if they could have done so with Malik and Rasho, instead.

DAF86
02-21-2009, 12:33 PM
I was looking at the spurs past draft picks of the last few years and looking at the players that where there when it was our time to pick, and this draft seemed to have the most talent after we drafted

we could of kept leandro barbosa
or got josh howard
or mo williams

except i forgot what we got in return for barbosa:(

which of these 3 players. who of would of made the most difference to our team and who should they have picked orginally?

:flag:

And think of all the others teams that could have picked Ginobili and/or Parker instead of us. You win some you lose some. I'm pretty sure we're right there in the top in the ranking of teams that most benefited from the NBA draft in the last 10/15 years.

Solid D
02-21-2009, 12:41 PM
And think of all the others teams that could have picked Ginobili and/or Parker instead of us. You win some you lose some. I'm pretty sure we're right there in the top in the ranking of teams that most benefited from the NBA draft in the last 10/15 years.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73670

The last 15 years...

2008 NBA 1 26 George Hill
2 15 Goran Dragic traded for 2 18 Malik Hairston
2 27 James Gist
2007 NBA 1 28 Tiago Splitter
2 3 Marcus Williams University of Arizona
2 28 Giorgos Printezis
2006 NBA 2 29 Damir Markota
2005 NBA 1 28 Ian Mahinmi
2004 NBA 1 28 Beno Udrih
2 23 Romain Sato Xavier University
2 28 Sergei Karaulov
2003 NBA 1 28 Leandro Barbosa
2002 NBA 1 26 John Salmons University of Miami
2 27 Luis Scola
2 28 Randy Holcomb San Diego State University
2001 NBA 1 28 Tony Parker
2 27 Robertas Javtokas
2 29 Bryan Bracey University of Oregon
2000 NBA 2 12 Chris Carrawell Duke University
1999 NBA 2 28 Manu Ginobili
1998 NBA 1 24 Felipe Lopez St. John's University
2 23 Derrick Dial Eastern Michigan University
1997 NBA 1 1 Tim Duncan Wake Forest University
1995 NBA 1 29 Cory Alexander University of Virginia
1994 NBA 1 22 Bill Curley Boston College

Jmoney
02-21-2009, 03:25 PM
I think the bigger one was when we went back and forth on who to take in the 2nd round Carroway or Micheal Redd and we decided on Carro. If we had only taken Redd :(

balli
02-21-2009, 03:31 PM
No way Josh Howard should have gone that low. I remember being furious when the Jazz took Sasha freaking Pavlovic over Howard. He might now be the dumbest malcontent in the league, but at the time, it was ridiculous for the player of the year in the fucking ACC to drop to 28 or wherever he went.

Not to mention hes a pot head
Very few NBA players aren't.

Agloco
02-21-2009, 03:35 PM
Josh Howard failed the vetting process when RC Buford discovered that Howard got a 500 on the SAT.

Since the SAT measures basketball IQ...........:rolleyes

Austin_Toros
02-21-2009, 03:39 PM
Not to mention hes a pot head and has a problem with white athority figures.

Howard: "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black."

InK
02-21-2009, 04:16 PM
Since the SAT measures basketball IQ...........:rolleyes

Did anyone say it does so? Unbelievably lazy or incredible dumb, does it matter which?

BOHOLANO#21
02-21-2009, 05:23 PM
I was looking at the spurs past draft picks of the last few years and looking at the players that where there when it was our time to pick, and this draft seemed to have the most talent after we drafted

we could of kept leandro barbosa
or got josh howard
or mo williams

except i forgot what we got in return for barbosa:(

which of these 3 players. who of would of made the most difference to our team and who should they have picked orginally?

:flag:
spurs drafted barbosa with a prior agreement with the SUNS. SPURS never had barbosa in their list.

Biggems
02-21-2009, 07:56 PM
im more upset that we couldnt convince Jax to sign that 3 year contract. If he had stayed....I firmly believe we would have at least 3peated.

Harry Callahan
02-21-2009, 08:02 PM
A 500 SAT is a special ed level score. No wonder he supported BHO.

DeadlyDynasty
02-21-2009, 08:10 PM
A 500 SAT is a special ed level score. No wonder he supported BHO.

There's no way he scored that low...you get 2 to 300 just for spelling your name right. :wow:wow No Joke HC, that IS SPECIAL ED level.

DeadlyDynasty
02-21-2009, 08:14 PM
http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Josh_Howard
Read under "early life and high school"...wow he did score that low.

He eventually ended up at Wake but what kind of classes could he of passed? You can only take so many phys ed courses and they're usually only worth one credit

MateoNeygro
02-22-2009, 12:12 AM
Josh Howard failed the vetting process when RC Buford discovered that Howard got a 500 on the SAT.

a 500?? WTF? That's terrible.