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duncan228
02-24-2009, 04:12 PM
The Top 10 Best Current Rivalries in Sports (http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2009/02/the_top_10_current_rivalries_i.php)
By Richie Whitt

Tonight's the next chapter in one of sports' best rivalries. That's right, I said best.

To be a true sports rivalry - more than just a plethora of games between teams in close proximity (see Chicago Cubs vs. St. Louis Cardinals) - the meetings between opponents must:

*Take place at an advanced level, with championships on the line.

*Feature sustained excellence by both teams over a period of time.

*Include some form of contentiousness, be it physical alternations or trash-talking taunts.

*Prompt you to watch, even if you're a fan of neither team.

What do you know, Dallas Mavericks-San Antonio Spurs meets - and exceeds - each criteria. In fact, when the Mavs and Spurs battle tonight just four hours south on I-35 it will resume one of the best - yet most underrated and overlooked - rivalries in not just the NBA, but all of sports.

You want history? The Spurs were born as the ABA's Dallas Chaparrals.

You want trash-talking? Mavs owner Mark Cuban has repeatedly criticized Spurs fans and called San Antonio's famed Riverwalk "dirty."

You want familiarity? Former Spur Avery Johnson coached the Mavs; Former Mav Michael Finley plays for the Spurs.

You want conflict? Dirk Nowitzkti had his two front teeth knocked out in an '01 playoff game against San Antonio; Jason Terry punched Finley in the family jewels in an infamous '06 scrum.

Most importantly, you want superior play at an elite level? As I noted last week, the Spurs (504) and Mavs (480) have by far the NBA's most regular-season victories since 2000. They are the league's only two teams to have won 50+ games the last eight seasons. And they've saved their best for last. The winner of the teams' three playoff meetings this millenium has advanced to the NBA Finals, with the Mavericks beating the Spurs in a seven-game series en route to their only appearance in 2006 and with the San Antonio ousting Dallas in competitive series on their way to NBA Championships in 2001 and 2003.

So, exactly where does Mavs-Spurs fit in the landscape of current sports rivalries?

10. Los Angeles Lakers vs. Boston Celtics - Memories of Bird vs. Magic and "Beat L.A.!" were rekindled with last summer's Kobe vs. Garnett-Pierce-Allen NBA Finals. With the league's best records this year, they're seemingly again on a collision course.

9. Mancheser United vs. Chelsea - The Premiership's best, richest teams annually fight for the title in soccer's most prestigious league. Sorry, Tom Hicks.

8. Tiger Woods vs. The Field - Golf's all-time best player has won 14 of the 51 majors he's entered and 30 percent of his career PGA starts against the best of the rest in the world. Still, someone other than Woods wins 70 percent of the time.

7. North Carolina vs. Duke - Not only have they won two college basketball championships this decade, the Tar Heels and Devils are seperated by only eight miles and boast a history filled with Dean Smith, Mike Krzyzewski, Michael Jordan, Grant Hill and two of the sport's all-time winningest records.

6. New England Patriots vs. Indianapolis Colts - This matchup features Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning and has combined to place a team in five of the last eight Super Bowls. Take that, Cowboys-Redskins.

5. Texas vs. Oklahoma - The annual Red River Rivalry not only fills the Cotton Bowl, but the Sooners and Longhorns have combined to win two college football national championships since 2000 and make five title-game appearances.

4. Boston Red Sox vs. New York Yankees - Their genuine, mutal disdain goes back to 1919 and the sale of Babe Ruth and their current domination includes combining for five of the last 11 World Series.

3. Dallas Mavericks vs. San Antonio Spurs - The NBA's two best teams this millenium produce monumental playoff series as contentious neighbors. Imagine the hype is this was Nets-Knicks?

2. Baseball vs. The Truth - For years players lied their way to unprecedented records and resurgent popularity, but - just ask Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, et al - their enemy is staging a furious rally.

1. Rafael Nadal vs. Roger Federer - They have been ranked No. 1-2 since July 2005 and have won an astounding 15 of the last 16 Grand Slams, most in dramatic, five-set theater.

polandprzem
02-24-2009, 04:16 PM
Umm what?

byrdman31
02-24-2009, 04:29 PM
spurs vs suns > spurs mavs

Spurminator
02-24-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't know where to begin. I'm fine with saying it's a rivalry but that list is all kinds of messed up.

Thomas82
02-24-2009, 04:32 PM
spurs vs suns > spurs mavs

Yeah, and don't forget the Spurs vs Lakers rivalry.

Dex
02-24-2009, 04:36 PM
Spurs v. Lakers > Spurs v. Mavs

We're talking about 7 of the last 10 rings. 8 Finals appearances between them in the last decade, and one almost always had to go through the other. Some of the greatest battles either team has seen.

This article is wack.

Brazil
02-24-2009, 04:37 PM
This is ridiculous, talking about greatest rivalries and take the example og Manchester / Chelsea is beyond idiotic...

duncan228
02-24-2009, 04:38 PM
...that list is all kinds of messed up.


This article is wack.

:lol That's why I put it up.

I know ST will have a better list.

1Parker1
02-24-2009, 04:41 PM
with the San Antonio ousting Dallas in competitive series on their way to NBA Championships in 2001 and 2003.

Spurs didn't win a championship in 2001. And Spurs vs. Mavs is hardly one of the best current rivalries. I'd put the Lakers or Suns rivalry far ahead.

But I do agree that the best current rivalry in all of sports is Federer vs Nadal :depressed

stretch
02-24-2009, 04:41 PM
"The winner of the teams' three playoff meetings this millenium has advanced to the NBA Finals, with the Mavericks beating the Spurs in a seven-game series en route to their only appearance in 2006 and with the San Antonio ousting Dallas in competitive series on their way to NBA Championships in 2001 and 2003."

Fucking wrong.

DunkingDuncan
02-24-2009, 04:56 PM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/ronaldonew_682_458813a.jpg

http://opensourcecentre.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/real_madrid_logo.jpg http://www.topnews.in/files/barcelona-logo.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iX00OoqJz0/R2b8sYZE-ZI/AAAAAAAABH8/FEoxGqHSwaY/s200/2_inter_milan_logo.jpg http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0015/6069/brand.gif

http://www.formula1.net.au/images/mclaren-ferrari-hunt1.jpg

ambchang
02-24-2009, 04:59 PM
Just to clarify, the Spurs and Suns never had a rivalry. The Spurs just kept beating the Suns. It's like the Kings and Lakers never had a rivalry, the Lakers just kept beating the Kings.

Fermixalot
02-24-2009, 05:01 PM
2005-06 this might have been right (that 2006 series was magical, and would have been even better had the Spurs pulled it out) but now there's just so much more rivalry-wise, especially with the Suns.

But Rafa/Roger is definitely number 1. With-out-a-doubt.

Il Caraibico
02-24-2009, 05:08 PM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/ronaldonew_682_458813a.jpg

http://opensourcecentre.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/real_madrid_logo.jpg http://www.topnews.in/files/barcelona-logo.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iX00OoqJz0/R2b8sYZE-ZI/AAAAAAAABH8/FEoxGqHSwaY/s200/2_inter_milan_logo.jpg http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0015/6069/brand.gif

http://www.formula1.net.au/images/mclaren-ferrari-hunt1.jpg

inter e milan stramerda!

jdev82
02-24-2009, 05:19 PM
milan inter
spurs suns
arsenal tottenham
duke nc
spurs lakers
spurs david stern
chelsea man u
spurs mavs are honerable mention
and im leaving out a lot to get in the actual emotional rivalries in soccer(the derbies etc.)

phxspurfan
02-24-2009, 05:27 PM
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00458/ronaldonew_682_458813a.jpg

http://opensourcecentre.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/real_madrid_logo.jpg http://www.topnews.in/files/barcelona-logo.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6iX00OoqJz0/R2b8sYZE-ZI/AAAAAAAABH8/FEoxGqHSwaY/s200/2_inter_milan_logo.jpg http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0015/6069/brand.gif

http://www.formula1.net.au/images/mclaren-ferrari-hunt1.jpg

Mmmm I could really go for a tepid malaysian carlsberg with some raw snails from a street hawker right now.

manubili
02-24-2009, 05:31 PM
This is based on an american point of view, I suppose.

There are several rivalries in soccer more important than manchester udt - chelsea, at least for the rest of the world:

Germany - England
Barcelona - Real Madrid
Argentina - Brazil

tlongII
02-24-2009, 05:33 PM
Where's Ohio State - Michigan?

tlongII
02-24-2009, 05:33 PM
The writer works for a Dallas newspaper so he obviously is biased.

CIA Pop
02-24-2009, 05:35 PM
Wow, I thought Jeff McDonald was clueless. SA-Dallas higher than LA-Boston? Higher than Boston-NYY? Texas-Freakin OU? What, Dallas beat us one time because Manu pulled a bonehead play and now it's a top three rivalry?

Richie should change his name to Lack. Lack Whitt.

sananspursfan21
02-24-2009, 05:37 PM
yah, i don't think you can call the mavericks the other best nba team of the millenium. they haven't even won a finals championship. you can call them one of the most consistent as far as winning this decade, but they surely aren't the other best... must be a typo

it's me
02-24-2009, 05:37 PM
WTF????????? not even close....... if they include international sports.... there are 1000 “Best Current Rivalries In Sports” before Spurs-Mavs …

Spursfan092120
02-24-2009, 05:39 PM
Cowboys vs. Redskins > Spurs vs. Lakers > Spurs vs. Suns > Spurs vs. Mavs

sananspursfan21
02-24-2009, 05:43 PM
Just to clarify, the Spurs and Suns never had a rivalry. The Spurs just kept beating the Suns. It's like the Kings and Lakers never had a rivalry, the Lakers just kept beating the Kings.

right, just cuz one team has played another at high stakes a lot doesn't mean that it's a rivalry. rivalries should consist of one team beating the other approx. half of the time. the suns haven't beaten the spurs in a 7 game series (suns beat the spurs in a 5 game series in 2000, but 5 game series' are a joke, and they were both different teams at that point.) no rivalry with the spurs and suns, but for the financial well being of the nba, let's call it one anyways :)

monosylab1k
02-24-2009, 05:45 PM
Richie Whitt is a moron.

monosylab1k
02-24-2009, 05:45 PM
and Mavs vs. Spurs is nowhere near as big a rivalry as Mavs vs. Themselves.

slayermin
02-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Nevermind. I missed the "current" rivalry part.

024
02-24-2009, 05:47 PM
and Mavs vs. Spurs is nowhere near as big a rivalry as Mavs vs. Themselves.

:lol

duncan228
02-24-2009, 05:49 PM
and Mavs vs. Spurs is nowhere near as big a rivalry as Mavs vs. Themselves.

We love our team. :cheer

dirk4mvp
02-24-2009, 05:50 PM
We love our team. :cheer

What team will you love when Duncan retires?

duncan228
02-24-2009, 05:58 PM
What team will you love when Duncan retires?

Spurs, assuming he retires a Spur. I don't expect to ever follow another player the way I've followed Duncan.

dirk4mvp
02-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Spurs, assuming he retires a Spur. I don't expect to ever follow another player the way I've followed Duncan.

Well, I'll go ahead and tell you since I'm not currently logged into my Greg Oden account, so if you still want front row seats on that bandwagon, let me know and I'll see what I can do the next time I log in.

duncan228
02-24-2009, 06:00 PM
Well, I'll go ahead and tell you since I'm not currently logged into my Greg Oden account, so if you still want front row seats on that bandwagon, let me know and I'll see what I can do the next time I log in.

:lol Appreciate it.

peter_slb
02-24-2009, 06:01 PM
Since when Manchester-Chelsea is a rivalry? Since 2005? Because until then Chelsea was a small team. Keep the rivalries in the USA, because you probably don't know what are the real rivalries outside there, there consequences aren't just "two front teeth knocked out" or a punch in the family jewels, and most of them have around 100 years old.

Galileo
02-24-2009, 06:05 PM
This list really sucks.

For the NBA, Spurs/Lakers is the # 1 rivelry.

They also forgot about Packers/Bears and Packers/Vikings.

Brazil
02-24-2009, 06:07 PM
Within the list we should have:

River Plate - Boca Junior
Bobby Fisher - Spassky
USA - USSR hokey
RFA - RDA for soccer
Cassius Clay - Joe Frazier
Sampras - Agassi
A. Prost - A. Senna
Bernard Hinault - Greg Lemond

dirk4mvp
02-24-2009, 06:10 PM
Where's Ohio State - Michigan?

That rivalry is so overrated and dead. When's the last time the Wolverines won?

Sportstudi
02-24-2009, 06:15 PM
This is based on an american point of view, I suppose.

There are several rivalries in soccer more important than manchester udt - chelsea, at least for the rest of the world:

Germany - England
Barcelona - Real Madrid
Argentina - Brazil

Couldn't agree more

mrpuente
02-24-2009, 06:15 PM
What the fuck is he babbling about?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-24-2009, 06:15 PM
And that passes for journalism?

GTFOH. :rolleyes

DarrinS
02-24-2009, 06:17 PM
The Mavericks are a rival?

DUNCANownsKOBE2
02-24-2009, 06:22 PM
Spurs vs. Lakers is by far a better rivalry than either Spurs Mavs or Spurs Suns. I also don't get how Dallas is one of the two best teams this millennium when LA has won 3 more titles.

DarrinS
02-24-2009, 06:24 PM
I think a better rivalry might be Dirk vs. exercise equipment.


Tale of the tape:


Dirk: 1
Stationary bike: 0

it's me
02-24-2009, 06:25 PM
Within the list we should have:

River Plate - Boca Junior
Bobby Fisher - Spassky
USA - USSR hokey
RFA - RDA for soccer
Cassius Clay - Joe Frazier
Sampras - Agassi
A. Prost - A. Senna
Bernard Hinault - Greg Lemond

I know…. Epic fail :lol

In soccer Add

Corinthians vs Palmeiras
Flamengo vs Fluminense
Ajax vs Feyenoord
Benfica vs FC Porto
Paris Saint-Germain vs Olympique de Marseille
Lazio vs Roma
Liverpool vs Manchester United (not Chelsea)
Arsenal vs Tottenham
Etc


Euro
Panathinaikos vs. Olympiakos
Real Madrid vs. Barcelona

Etc.

word
02-24-2009, 06:26 PM
Currently, the greatest rivalry in sports is Texas - Oklahoma ...being that UM has fallen off the face of the earth....

and the Lakers are a bigger rivalry to the Spurs than Dallas, currently.

This is CURRENTLY, right ?

Michi_Germany
02-24-2009, 06:34 PM
Borussia Dortmund - Schalke 04

Michi_Germany
02-24-2009, 06:39 PM
I know…. Epic fail :lol

In soccer Add

Corinthians vs Palmeiras
Flamengo vs Fluminense
Ajax vs Feyenoord
Benfica vs FC Porto
Paris Saint-Germain vs Olympique de Marseille
Lazio vs Roma
Liverpool vs Manchester United (not Chelsea)
Arsenal vs Tottenham
Etc


Euro
Panathinaikos vs. Olympiakos
Real Madrid vs. Barcelona

Etc.

You've forgotten some Big Derbys!

Dortmund - Schalke
Partizan - Red Star Belgrad
Fenerbahce - Galatasaray Istanbul
Superclasico Boca Juniors - Riverr Plate

And the most important Soccerderby

Old Firm - Celtic - Rangers

jag
02-24-2009, 06:50 PM
Mavs v. Spurs isnt even in the top 100, much less the top 10.

Ditty
02-24-2009, 07:13 PM
i still hate the mavs

fuck dallas

when did he write this its just like a normal game now

DAF86
02-24-2009, 07:55 PM
Within the list we should have:

River Plate - Boca Juniors
Bobby Fisher - Spassky
USA - USSR hokey
RFA - RDA for soccer
Cassius Clay - Joe Frazier
Sampras - Agassi
A. Prost - A. Senna
Bernard Hinault - Greg Lemond

Thank you very much! Now if you trully want to talk about a real rivalry, not those other guy ass matchups you all name before, this is the one.
Lots of People have died over this River-Boca rivalry. Now I don't know if this makes it the best rivalry or the most idiotic one, but there's no doubt it is BIG.

Spursfan092120
02-24-2009, 07:58 PM
What team will you love when Duncan retires?
I'm sorry..you must have us mistaken for MAVS fans...we don't jump teams every couple of years. I've been a Spurs fan since 1985..my first recollection of any NBA basketball game. I've been there for all the bad years and the good. Duncan or no Duncan, I will always be a Spurs fan...

:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

SpursDynasty
02-24-2009, 08:00 PM
The Spurs vs. Mavs is the best rivalry because the games always come down to the last minute. Spurs/Lakers games are always marred by bad officiating.

Brazil
02-24-2009, 08:05 PM
Thank you very much! Now if you trully want to talk about a real rivalry, not those other guy ass matchups you all name before, this is the one.
Lots of People have died over this River-Boca rivalry. Now I don't know if this makes it the best rivalry or the most idiotic one, but there's no doubt it is BIG.

The term rivalry has been invented for River - Boca "El classico". In soccer there is one "classico" the other stuff are just derbies.

For me the biggest rivalry ever is Fisher / Spassky, this rivalry is all about rivalry:

- Game concept the othodox vs. creativity
- Schools : the russian school vs. the US
- Cold war context
- Little stories inside the big one: spying, cheating...
- Psychological war
- World wide interest
- At stake the intellectual supremacy between USSR and USA
- The noblest sport ever
etc... What was at stake was beyond a cup or a title

manubili
02-24-2009, 08:13 PM
Within the list we should have:

River Plate - Boca Junior
Bobby Fisher - Spassky
USA - USSR hokey
RFA - RDA for soccer
Cassius Clay - Joe Frazier
Sampras - Agassi
A. Prost - A. Senna
Bernard Hinault - Greg Lemond

If we go to the past,

Bjorn borg/McEnroe >>>>>>>>> nadal/federer
juan manuel fangio/stirling moss

Brazil
02-24-2009, 08:21 PM
If we go to the past,

Bjorn borg/McEnroe >>>>>>>>> nadal/federer
juan manuel fangio/stirling moss

I agree Borg/Mc >>>> Sampras/Agassi>>>nadal/federer for the moment