Presidential Address to Congress 2/24/09

[DarkReign]

Well, hes finding his groove speech-wise...again.

Either way, it is odd that he would repeatedly say "This time, we wont...." and "This time, the taxpayers money will not..." over and over.

[Wild Cobra]

How long will it take before people get tired of him seizing prime time?

[LockBeard]

LOL at still feeling the want to watch organized crime lie to you for 1 hour. Not you DR but people in general.

Spurs game is awesome right now.

[DarkReign]

Subject:Jobs

Pretty strong words on the reality of American manufacturing.

[DarkReign]

....oh God, stand up...sit down...stand up...bla bla bla..

Seems even the President is wearing thin on the "tradition" with the way he keeps trying to talk through it.

[DarkReign]

House divided on the auto industry. Expected.

[DarkReign]

Im going to be honest, Obama acts and speaks like a President with a mandate.

No, I am not being taken in, but the man seems incapable of sarcasm or smiling.

[DarkReign]

should i stand up? or should I sit down?

Up? Down?





STOP!

[DarkReign]

WTF?

Quitting high school os no longer just quitting on yourself, its quitting on your country?!

Another odd thing to say...

[DarkReign]

How long will it take before people get tired of him seizing prime time?

Honestly, I dont even now what else is on besides sports.

[DarkReign]

Should rename this thread "DR's Unabashed Post Count Inflation News".

[Pistons < Spurs]

They need to institute the 'golf clap' and do away with all this standing. Every 5 seconds Pelosi is clapping her stupid hands and practically jumping out of her seat. Someone throw a brick at her please.

[DarkReign]

They need to institute the 'golf clap' and do away with all this standing. Every 5 seconds Pelosi is clapping her stupid hands and practically jumping out of her seat. Someone throw a brick at her please.

Fuckin-a

[DarkReign]

Thats pretty cool moment in that little girls life if she actually wrote it.

[DarkReign]

He gives one helluva speech.

[DarkReign]

Cmon, Congress gets autographs?!

Really?

[DarkReign]

Bobby Jindal (sp?) has to be the most awkward politician I have seen in quite some time.

[Pistons < Spurs]

C'mon Jindal, it's 'President' ... not Presint


And I really hate his sing song cadence while speaking.

[InRareForm]

Bobby Jindal (sp?) has to be the most awkward politician I have seen in quite some time.


i agree.

Was anyone watching MSNBC?, i heard someone say "Oh God" before he started to speak, lol.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Ok stop it please! This is so bad it's starting to become funny.

[Pistons < Spurs]

After a terrible, too rehearsed, too forced beginning, Jindal's now doing a hell of a job.

[rAm]

What the fuck was that by Jindal. What did he mean by all that at the end?

[balli]

Jindal became too awkward for me to listen to. If he pulled out of the tailspin, good for him; I sincerely wanted to and had every intention of listening to the man, however I found myself too annoyed by his horrible start to keep paying attention. He was talking like a fucking kindergarten teacher.

[PixelPusher]

If it sounds like Jindal is targeting his speech to a room full of fourth graders, that's because he is. They might be the next people to actually vote for Republicans again.

:lol

[baseline bum]

They need to institute the 'golf clap' and do away with all this standing. Every 5 seconds Pelosi is clapping her stupid hands and practically jumping out of her seat. Someone throw a brick at her please.

:lol I'd throw a shoe at the bitch.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ Jindal.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080411/Kenneth-the-Page/kenneth-the-page_l.jpg

[balli]

:lmao @ Jindal.
Can't decide if Jindal's epic fail on national TV deserves it's own thread or not. Proabably, but:


Gov. Bobby Jindal's task tonight, to rebut President Obama's first address to a joint session of Congress, was a thankless one. But it still constituted an opportunity for the Louisiana Republican to show that he could handle the national spotlight, present himself as a fresh face of the Republican Party, and stand up to the current president oratorically.

On each of these three hurdles, he came up short. Both Democrats and Republicans alike panned Jindal's rebuttal in terms that were decidedly harsh: "amateurish," "laughable" and, most commonly, "a missed opportunity."

"After watching Jindal," one Democratic strategist emailed, "I'd pay a lot of money to be back watching a Palin speech."

"Awkward with capital A," emailed another.

The punditry was equally brutal. Part of the problem was the crux of Jindal's address, which consisted almost entirely of red meat for conservatives. The Governor offered criticism for anything other than tax cuts and ridiculed government spending for items that are either widely supported -- "$8 billion for high-speed rail" -- or seemingly essential -- "$140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring'" (isn't Louisiana Exhibit A in the need for natural disaster warning?).

"You know, I think Bobby Jindal is a very promising politician," said New York Times columnist David Brooks, appearing on PBS, "and I oppose the stimulus because I thought it was poorly drafted. But to come up at this moment in history with a stale "government is the problem," "we can't trust the federal government" -- it's just a disaster for the Republican Party. The country is in a panic right now. They may not like the way the Democrats have passed the stimulus bill, but that idea ... that government is going to have no role, the federal government has no role in this ... it's just a form of nihilism. It's just not where the country is, it's not where the future of the country is. There's an intra-Republican debate."

And yet, much of the critique of Jindal's address focused on his hokey, folksy, seemingly-forced tone and vernacular. The Governor, who has never held court on the national stage before -- remember, his speech at the Republican convention was called off after Hurricane Gustav made landfall -- showed a bit of wetness behind the ears. And the commentators let him have it, even on Fox News.

BRIT HUME: "The speech read a lot better than it sounded. This was not Bobby Jindal's greatest oratorical moment."


NINA EASTON: "The delivery was not exactly terrific."

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: "Jindal didn't have a chance. He follows Obama, who in making speeches, is in a league of his own. He's in a Reagan-esque league. ... [Jindal] tried the best he could."

JUAN WILLIAMS: "It came off as amateurish, and even the tempo in which he spoke was sing-songy. He was telling stories that seemed very simplistic and almost childish.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/25/bobby-jindal-response-pan_n_169710.html

[MannyIsGod]

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LOL compare for yourself.

[baseline bum]

Does anyone know if these speeches are being replayed on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, etc? No way I was missing the Spurs game to get smoke blown up my ass.

[MannyIsGod]

MSNBC right now dude.

[baseline bum]

OK, looks like it's about to come on again on MSNBC.

[baseline bum]

LOL Manny :lol

[MannyIsGod]

But we know that our schools don’t just need more resources. They need more reform. That is why this budget creates new incentives for teacher performance; pathways for advancement, and rewards for success. We’ll invest in innovative programs that are already helping schools meet high standards and close achievement gaps. And we will expand our commitment to charter schools.

It is our responsibility as lawmakers and educators to make this system work. But it is the responsibility of every citizen to participate in it. And so tonight, I ask every American to commit to at least one year or more of higher education or career training. This can be community college or a four-year school; vocational training or an apprenticeship. But whatever the training may be, every American will need to get more than a high school diploma. And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It’s not just quitting on yourself, it’s quitting on your country – and this country needs and values the talents of every American. That is why we will provide the support necessary for you to complete college and meet a new goal: by 2020, America will once again have the highest proportion of college graduates in the world.

I know that the price of tuition is higher than ever, which is why if you are willing to volunteer in your neighborhood or give back to your community or serve your country, we will make sure that you can afford a higher education. And to encourage a renewed spirit of national service for this and future generations, I ask this Congress to send me the bipartisan legislation that bears the name of Senator Orrin Hatch as well as an American who has never stopped asking what he can do for his country – Senator Edward Kennedy.

Best part of the speech. I know that these speeches are just rah rah political theater that in the end don't mean all that much, but this portion is pretty heartening if they do it right. I think he's got big goals on this front and I don't see him slowing down at all on this or healthcare.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Manny you are such a racist sometimes it hurts

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Best part of the speech. I know that these speeches are just rah rah political theater that in the end don't mean all that much, but this portion is pretty heartening if they do it right. I think he's got big goals on this front and I don't see him slowing down at all on this or healthcare.

On a serious note, his comments on education and healthcare really resonated with me. I truly want to believe in this guy. But him throwing the classic "cure for cancer" in the speech reminded me it is, in fact, 'rah rah political theater'.

[MannyIsGod]

Manny you are such a racist sometimes it hurts

:lmao what?

[balli]

Yeah, DR said something about not liking that high school dropout line. I thought it was great and I thought the entire education issue was a great focal point.

[MannyIsGod]

Cmon, Congress gets autographs?!

Really?

Is this the first state of the union you've watched? It happens each time.

[MannyIsGod]

WTF?

Quitting high school os no longer just quitting on yourself, its quitting on your country?!

Another odd thing to say...

Why? In the end if you drop out you are more than likely to become a financial burden on your country than you are to actually contribute something to the society.

I may be wrong, but you've asked for him to speak to you like an adult if I remember correctly. He did just that with that line. I'm very surprised to see you had an issue with it.

[baseline bum]

I hate the poll MSNBC is running at the bottom. Great speech so far, but I could give a shit what Obama and McCain voters think about it when I'm judging the speech.

[baseline bum]

Why did McCain stand and applaud when Barack just said he was ending the Iraq war??

[baseline bum]

Isn't Greenville in OK and not Kansas?

[MannyIsGod]

Its Greensburg

[baseline bum]

WTF Jindal? :lol

Is he making a speech or reading the little engine that could in a kindergarten classroom? Also, Louisiana got hit by a hurricane? No shit? Next thing you know, John McCain is going to say he was a POW.

[baseline bum]

Then again, could have been worse. Imagine Palin's retarded ass giving the response. Is she a GOP pariah now or what?

[MannyIsGod]

Psh, she probably popped a bottle of champagne tonight. Jindal was pretty fucking horrible.

Kenneth the motherfucking page.

[baseline bum]

Psh, she probably popped a bottle of champagne tonight. Jindal was pretty fucking horrible.

Kenneth the motherfucking page.

Palin would have been more entertaining; it would be the response to Katie Couric instead of to Obama.

[baseline bum]

I may be wrong, but you've asked for him to speak to you like an adult if I remember correctly. He did just that with that line. I'm very surprised to see you had an issue with it.

LOL... what a contrast with Jindal's patronizing tone.

[cool hand]

great speech........WOW.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL... what a contrast with Jindal's patronizing tone.

They should have just run an SNL special - that would have worked better.

[Rogue]

Madame Speaker, Mr. Vice President, Members of Congress, and the First Lady of the United States:
I’ve come here tonight not only to address the distinguished men and women in this great chamber, but to speak frankly and directly to the men and women who sent us here.
I know that for many Americans watching right now, the state of our economy is a concern that rises above all others. And rightly so. If you haven’t been personally affected by this recession, you probably know someone who has – a friend; a neighbor; a member of your family. You don’t need to hear another list of statistics to know that our economy is in crisis, because you live it every day. It’s the worry you wake up with and the source of sleepless nights. It’s the job you thought you’d retire from but now have lost; the business you built your dreams upon that’s now hanging by a thread; the college acceptance letter your child had to put back in the envelope. The impact of this recession is real, and it is everywhere.
But while our economy may be weakened and our confidence shaken; though we are living through difficult and uncertain times, tonight I want every American to know this:
We will rebuild, we will recover, and the United States of America will emerge stronger than before.
The weight of this crisis will not determine the destiny of this nation. The answers to our problems don’t lie beyond our reach. They exist in our laboratories and universities; in our fields and our factories; in the imaginations of our entrepreneurs and the pride of the hardest-working people on Earth. Those qualities that have made America the greatest force of progress and prosperity in human history we still possess in ample measure. What is required now is for this country to pull together, confront boldly the challenges we face, and take responsibility for our future once more.
Now, if we’re honest with ourselves, we’ll admit that for too long, we have not always met these responsibilities – as a government or as a people. I say this not to lay blame or look backwards, but because it is only by understanding how we arrived at this moment that we’ll be able to lift ourselves out of this predicament.
The fact is, our economy did not fall into decline overnight. Nor did all of our problems begin when the housing market collapsed or the stock market sank. We have known for decades that our survival depends on finding new sources of energy. Yet we import more oil today than ever before. The cost of health care eats up more and more of our savings each year, yet we keep delaying reform. Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for. And though all these challenges went unsolved, we still managed to spend more money and pile up more debt, both as individuals and through our government, than ever before.
In other words, we have lived through an era where too often, short-term gains were prized over long-term prosperity; where we failed to look beyond the next payment, the next quarter, or the next election. A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy instead of an opportunity to invest in our future. Regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market. People bought homes they knew they couldn’t afford from banks and lenders who pushed those bad loans anyway. And all the while, critical debates and difficult decisions were put off for some other time on some other day.
Well that day of reckoning has arrived, and the time to take charge of our future is here.
Now is the time to act boldly and wisely – to not only revive this economy, but to build a new foundation for lasting prosperity. Now is the time to jumpstart job creation, re-start lending, and invest in areas like energy, health care, and education that will grow our economy, even as we make hard choices to bring our deficit down. That is what my economic agenda is designed to do, and that’s what I’d like to talk to you about tonight.
It’s an agenda that begins with jobs.
As soon as I took office, I asked this Congress to send me a recovery plan by President’s Day that would put people back to work and put money in their pockets. Not because I believe in bigger government – I don’t. Not because I’m not mindful of the massive debt we’ve inherited – I am. I called for action because the failure to do so would have cost more jobs and caused more hardships. In fact, a failure to act would have worsened our long-term deficit by assuring weak economic growth for years. That’s why I pushed for quick action. And tonight, I am grateful that this Congress delivered, and pleased to say that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act is now law.
Over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs. More than 90% of these jobs will be in the private sector – jobs rebuilding our roads and bridges; constructing wind turbines and solar panels; laying broadband and expanding mass transit.
Because of this plan, there are teachers who can now keep their jobs and educate our kids. Health care professionals can continue caring for our sick. There are 57 police officers who are still on the streets of Minneapolis tonight because this plan prevented the layoffs their department was about to make.
Because of this plan, 95% of the working households in America will receive a tax cut – a tax cut that you will see in your paychecks beginning on April 1st.
Because of this plan, families who are struggling to pay tuition costs will receive a $2,500 tax credit for all four years of college. And Americans who have lost their jobs in this recession will be able to receive extended unemployment benefits and continued health care coverage to help them weather this storm.
I know there are some in this chamber and watching at home who are skeptical of whether this plan will work. I understand that skepticism. Here in Washington, we’ve all seen how quickly good intentions can turn into broken promises and wasteful spending. And with a plan of this scale comes enormous responsibility to get it right.
That is why I have asked Vice President Biden to lead a tough, unprecedented oversight effort – because nobody messes with Joe. I have told each member of my Cabinet as well as mayors and governors across the country that they will be held accountable by me and the American people for every dollar they spend. I have appointed a proven and aggressive Inspector General to ferret out any and all cases of waste and fraud. And we have created a new website called recovery.gov so that every American can find out how and where their money is being spent.
So the recovery plan we passed is the first step in getting our economy back on track. But it is just the first step. Because even if we manage this plan flawlessly, there will be no real recovery unless we clean up the credit crisis that has severely weakened our financial system.
I want to speak plainly and candidly about this issue tonight, because every American should know that it directly affects you and your family’s well-being. You should also know that the money you’ve deposited in banks across the country is safe; your insurance is secure; and you can rely on the continued operation of our financial system. That is not the source of concern.
The concern is that if we do not re-start lending in this country, our recovery will be choked off before it even begins.
You see, the flow of credit is the lifeblood of our economy. The ability to get a loan is how you finance the purchase of everything from a home to a car to a college education; how stores stock their shelves, farms buy equipment, and businesses make payroll.
But credit has stopped flowing the way it should. Too many bad loans from the housing crisis have made their way onto the books of too many banks. With so much debt and so little confidence, these banks are now fearful of lending out any more money to households, to businesses, or to each other. When there is no lending, families can’t afford to buy homes or cars. So businesses are forced to make layoffs. Our economy suffers even more, and credit dries up even further.
That is why this administration is moving swiftly and aggressively to break this destructive cycle, restore confidence, and re-start lending.
We will do so in several ways. First, we are creating a new lending fund that represents the largest effort ever to help provide auto loans, college loans, and small business loans to the consumers and entrepreneurs who keep this economy running.
Second, we have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and re-finance their mortgages. It’s a plan that won’t help speculators or that neighbor down the street who bought a house he could never hope to afford, but it will help millions of Americans who are struggling with declining home values – Americans who will now be able to take advantage of the lower interest rates that this plan has already helped bring about. In fact, the average family who re-finances today can save nearly $2000 per year on their mortgage.
Third, we will act with the full force of the federal government to ensure that the major banks that Americans depend on have enough confidence and enough money to lend even in more difficult times. And when we learn that a major bank has serious problems, we will hold accountable those responsible, force the necessary adjustments, provide the support to clean up their balance sheets, and assure the continuity of a strong, viable institution that can serve our people and our economy.
I understand that on any given day, Wall Street may be more comforted by an approach that gives banks bailouts with no strings attached, and that holds nobody accountable for their reckless decisions. But such an approach won’t solve the problem. And our goal is to quicken the day when we re-start lending to the American people and American business and end this crisis once and for all.
I intend to hold these banks fully accountable for the assistance they receive, and this time, they will have to clearly demonstrate how taxpayer dollars result in more lending for the American taxpayer. This time, CEOs won’t be able to use taxpayer money to pad their paychecks or buy fancy drapes or disappear on a private jet. Those days are over.
Still, this plan will require significant resources from the federal government – and yes, probably more than we’ve already set aside. But while the cost of action will be great, I can assure you that the cost of inaction will be far greater, for it could result in an economy that sputters along for not months or years, but perhaps a decade. That would be worse for our deficit, worse for business, worse for you, and worse for the next generation. And I refuse to let that happen.
I understand that when the last administration asked this Congress to provide assistance for struggling banks, Democrats and Republicans alike were infuriated by the mismanagement and results that followed. So were the American taxpayers. So was I.
So I know how unpopular it is to be seen as helping banks right now, especially when everyone is suffering in part from their bad decisions. I promise you – I get it.
But I also know that in a time of crisis, we cannot afford to govern out of anger, or yield to the politics of the moment. My job – our job – is to solve the problem. Our job is to govern with a sense of responsibility. I will not spend a single penny for the purpose of rewarding a single Wall Street executive, but I will do whatever it takes to help the small business that can’t pay its workers or the family that has saved and still can’t get a mortgage.
That’s what this is about. It’s not about helping banks – it’s about helping people. Because when credit is available again, that young family can finally buy a new home. And then some company will hire workers to build it. And then those workers will have money to spend, and if they can get a loan too, maybe they’ll finally buy that car, or open their own business. Investors will return to the market, and American families will see their retirement secured once more. Slowly, but surely, confidence will return, and our economy will recover.
So I ask this Congress to join me in doing whatever proves necessary. Because we cannot consign our nation to an open-ended recession. And to ensure that a crisis of this magnitude never happens again, I ask Congress to move quickly on legislation that will finally reform our outdated regulatory system. It is time to put in place tough, new common-sense rules of the road so that our financial market rewards drive and innovation, and punishes short-cuts and abuse.
The recovery plan and the financial stability plan are the immediate steps we’re taking to revive our economy in the short-term. But the only way to fully restore America’s economic strength is to make the long-term investments that will lead to new jobs, new industries, and a renewed ability to compete with the rest of the world. The only way this century will be another American century is if we confront at last the price of our dependence on oil and the high cost of health care; the schools that aren’t preparing our children and the mountain of debt they stand to inherit. That is our responsibility.
In the next few days, I will submit a budget to Congress. So often, we have come to view these documents as simply numbers on a page or laundry lists of programs. I see this document differently. I see it as a vision for America – as a blueprint for our future.
My budget does not attempt to solve every problem or address every issue. It reflects the stark reality of what we’ve inherited – a trillion dollar deficit, a financial crisis, and a costly recession.
Given these realities, everyone in this chamber – Democrats and Republicans – will have to sacrifice some worthy priorities for which there are no dollars. And that includes me.
But that does not mean we can afford to ignore our long-term challenges. I reject the view that says our problems will simply take care of themselves; that says government has no role in laying the foundation for our common prosperity.
For history tells a different story. History reminds us that at every moment of economic upheaval and transformation, this nation has responded with bold action and big ideas. In the midst of civil war, we laid railroad tracks from one coast to another that spurred commerce and industry. From the turmoil of the Industrial Revolution came a system of public high schools that prepared our citizens for a new age. In the wake of war and depression, the GI Bill sent a generation to college and created the largest middle-class in history. And a twilight struggle for freedom led to a nation of highways, an American on the moon, and an explosion of technology that still shapes our world.
In each case, government didn’t supplant private enterprise; it catalyzed private enterprise. It created the conditions for thousands of entrepreneurs and new businesses to adapt and to thrive.
We are a nation that has seen promise amid peril, and claimed opportunity from ordeal. Now we must be that nation again. That is why, even as it cuts back on the programs we don’t need, the budget I submit will invest in the three areas that are absolutely critical to our economic future: energy, health care, and education.
It begins with energy.
We know the country that harnesses the power of clean, renewable energy will lead the 21st century. And yet, it is China that has launched the largest effort in history to make their economy energy efficient. We invented solar technology, but we’ve fallen behind countries like Germany and Japan in producing it. New plug-in hybrids roll off our assembly lines, but they will run on batteries made in Korea.
Well I do not accept a future where the jobs and industries of tomorrow take root beyond our borders – and I know you don’t either. It is time for America to lead again.
Thanks to our recovery plan, we will double this nation’s supply of renewable energy in the next three years. We have also made the largest investment in basic research funding in American history – an investment that will spur not only new discoveries in energy, but breakthroughs in medicine, science, and technology.
We will soon lay down thousands of miles of power lines that can carry new energy to cities and towns across this country. And we will put Americans to work making our homes and buildings more efficient so that we can save billions of dollars on our energy bills.
But to truly transform our economy, protect our security, and save our planet from the ravages of climate change, we need to ultimately make clean, renewable energy the profitable kind of energy. So I ask this Congress to send me legislation that places a market-based cap on carbon pollution and drives the production of more renewable energy in America. And to support that innovation, we will invest fifteen billion dollars a year to develop technologies like wind power and solar power; advanced biofuels, clean coal, and more fuel-efficient cars and trucks built right here in America.
As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the brink. We should not, and will not, protect them from their own bad practices. But we are committed to the goal of a re-tooled, re-imagined auto industry that can compete and win. Millions of jobs depend on it. Scores of communities depend on it. And I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it.
None of this will come without cost, nor will it be easy. But this is America. We don’t do what’s easy. We do what is necessary to move this country forward.
For that same reason, we must also address the crushing cost of health care.
This is a cost that now causes a bankruptcy in America every thirty seconds. By the end of the year, it could cause 1.5 million Americans to lose their homes. In the last eight years, premiums have grown four times faster than wages. And in each of these years, one million more Americans have lost their health insurance. It is one of the major reasons why small businesses close their doors and corporations ship jobs overseas. And it’s one of the largest and fastest-growing parts of our budget.
Given these facts, we can no longer afford to put health care reform on hold.
Already, we have done more to advance the cause of health care reform in the last thirty days than we have in the last decade. When it was days old, this Congress passed a law to provide and protect health insurance for eleven million American children whose parents work full-time. Our recovery plan will invest in electronic health records and new technology that will reduce errors, bring down costs, ensure privacy, and save lives. It will launch a new effort to conquer a disease that has touched the life of nearly every American by seeking a cure for cancer in our time. And it makes the largest investment ever in preventive care, because that is one of the best ways to keep our people healthy and our costs under control.
This budget builds on these reforms. It includes an historic commitment to comprehensive health care reform – a down-payment on the principle that we must have quality, affordable health care for every American. It’s a commitment that’s paid for in part by efficiencies in our system that are long overdue. And it’s a step we must take if we hope to bring down our deficit in the years to come.
Now, there will be many different opinions and ideas about how to achieve reform, and that is why I’m bringing together businesses and workers, doctors and health care providers, Democrats and Republicans to begin work on this issue next week.
I suffer no illusions that this will be an easy process. It will be hard. But I also know that nearly a century after Teddy Roosevelt first called for reform, the cost of our health care has weighed down our economy and the conscience of our nation long enough. So let there be no doubt: health care reform cannot wait, it must not wait, and it will not wait another year.
The third challenge we must address is the urgent need to expand the promise of education in America.
In a global economy where the most valuable skill you can sell is your knowledge, a good education is no longer just a pathway to opportunity – it is a pre-requisite.
Right now, three-quarters of the fastest-growing occupations require more than a high school diploma. And yet, just over half of our citizens have that level of education. We have one of the highest high school dropout rates of any industrialized nation. And half of the students who begin college never finish.
This is a prescription for economic decline, because we know the countries that out-teach us today will out-compete us tomorrow. That is why it will be the goal of this administration to ensure that every child has access to a complete and competitive education – from the day they are born to the day they begin a career.
Already, we have made an historic investment in education through the economic recovery plan. We have dramatically expanded early childhood education and will continue to improve its quality, because we know that the most formative learning comes in those first years of life. We have made college affordable for nearly seven million more students. And we have provided the resources necessary to prevent painful cuts and teacher layoffs that would set back our children’s progress.
But we know that our schools don’t just need more resources. They need more reform. That is why this budget creates new incentives for teacher performance; pathways for advancement, and rewards for success. We’ll invest in innovative programs that are already helping schools meet high standards and close achievement gaps. And we will expand our commitment to charter schools.
It is our responsibility as lawmakers and educators to make this system work. But it is the responsibility of every citizen to participate in it. And so tonight, I ask every American to commit to at least one year or more of higher education or career training. This can be community college or a four-year school; vocational training or an apprenticeship. But whatever the training may be, every American will need to get more than a high school diploma. And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It’s not just quitting on yourself, it’s quitting on your country – and this country needs and values the talents of every American. That is why we will provide the support necessary for you to complete college and meet a new goal: by 2020, America will once again have the highest proportion of college graduates in the world.
I know that the price of tuition is higher than ever, which is why if you are willing to volunteer in your neighborhood or give back to your community or serve your country, we will make sure that you can afford a higher education. And to encourage a renewed spirit of national service for this and future generations, I ask this Congress to send me the bipartisan legislation that bears the name of Senator Orrin Hatch as well as an American who has never stopped asking what he can do for his country – Senator Edward Kennedy.
These education policies will open the doors of opportunity for our children. But it is up to us to ensure they walk through them. In the end, there is no program or policy that can substitute for a mother or father who will attend those parent/teacher conferences, or help with homework after dinner, or turn off the TV, put away the video games, and read to their child. I speak to you not just as a President, but as a father when I say that responsibility for our children's education must begin at home.
There is, of course, another responsibility we have to our children. And that is the responsibility to ensure that we do not pass on to them a debt they cannot pay. With the deficit we inherited, the cost of the crisis we face, and the long-term challenges we must meet, it has never been more important to ensure that as our economy recovers, we do what it takes to bring this deficit down.
I’m proud that we passed the recovery plan free of earmarks, and I want to pass a budget next year that ensures that each dollar we spend reflects only our most important national priorities.
Yesterday, I held a fiscal summit where I pledged to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office. My administration has also begun to go line by line through the federal budget in order to eliminate wasteful and ineffective programs. As you can imagine, this is a process that will take some time. But we’re starting with the biggest lines. We have already identified two trillion dollars in savings over the next decade.
In this budget, we will end education programs that don’t work and end direct payments to large agribusinesses that don’t need them. We’ll eliminate the no-bid contracts that have wasted billions in Iraq, and reform our defense budget so that we’re not paying for Cold War-era weapons systems we don’t use. We will root out the waste, fraud, and abuse in our Medicare program that doesn’t make our seniors any healthier, and we will restore a sense of fairness and balance to our tax code by finally ending the tax breaks for corporations that ship our jobs overseas.
In order to save our children from a future of debt, we will also end the tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. But let me perfectly clear, because I know you’ll hear the same old claims that rolling back these tax breaks means a massive tax increase on the American people: if your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime. In fact, the recovery plan provides a tax cut – that’s right, a tax cut – for 95% of working families. And these checks are on the way.
To preserve our long-term fiscal health, we must also address the growing costs in Medicare and Social Security. Comprehensive health care reform is the best way to strengthen Medicare for years to come. And we must also begin a conversation on how to do the same for Social Security, while creating tax-free universal savings accounts for all Americans.
Finally, because we’re also suffering from a deficit of trust, I am committed to restoring a sense of honesty and accountability to our budget. That is why this budget looks ahead ten years and accounts for spending that was left out under the old rules – and for the first time, that includes the full cost of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. For seven years, we have been a nation at war. No longer will we hide its price.
We are now carefully reviewing our policies in both wars, and I will soon announce a way forward in Iraq that leaves Iraq to its people and responsibly ends this war.
And with our friends and allies, we will forge a new and comprehensive strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan to defeat al Qaeda and combat extremism. Because I will not allow terrorists to plot against the American people from safe havens half a world away.
As we meet here tonight, our men and women in uniform stand watch abroad and more are readying to deploy. To each and every one of them, and to the families who bear the quiet burden of their absence, Americans are united in sending one message: we honor your service, we are inspired by your sacrifice, and you have our unyielding support. To relieve the strain on our forces, my budget increases the number of our soldiers and Marines. And to keep our sacred trust with those who serve, we will raise their pay, and give our veterans the expanded health care and benefits that they have earned.
To overcome extremism, we must also be vigilant in upholding the values our troops defend – because there is no force in the world more powerful than the example of America. That is why I have ordered the closing of the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, and will seek swift and certain justice for captured terrorists – because living our values doesn’t make us weaker, it makes us safer and it makes us stronger. And that is why I can stand here tonight and say without exception or equivocation that the United States of America does not torture.
In words and deeds, we are showing the world that a new era of engagement has begun. For we know that America cannot meet the threats of this century alone, but the world cannot meet them without America. We cannot shun the negotiating table, nor ignore the foes or forces that could do us harm. We are instead called to move forward with the sense of confidence and candor that serious times demand.
To seek progress toward a secure and lasting peace between Israel and her neighbors, we have appointed an envoy to sustain our effort. To meet the challenges of the 21st century – from terrorism to nuclear proliferation; from pandemic disease to cyber threats to crushing poverty – we will strengthen old alliances, forge new ones, and use all elements of our national power.
And to respond to an economic crisis that is global in scope, we are working with the nations of the G-20 to restore confidence in our financial system, avoid the possibility of escalating protectionism, and spur demand for American goods in markets across the globe. For the world depends on us to have a strong economy, just as our economy depends on the strength of the world’s.
As we stand at this crossroads of history, the eyes of all people in all nations are once again upon us – watching to see what we do with this moment; waiting for us to lead.
Those of us gathered here tonight have been called to govern in extraordinary times. It is a tremendous burden, but also a great privilege – one that has been entrusted to few generations of Americans. For in our hands lies the ability to shape our world for good or for ill.
I know that it is easy to lose sight of this truth – to become cynical and doubtful; consumed with the petty and the trivial.
But in my life, I have also learned that hope is found in unlikely places; that inspiration often comes not from those with the most power or celebrity, but from the dreams and aspirations of Americans who are anything but ordinary.
I think about Leonard Abess, the bank president from Miami who reportedly cashed out of his company, took a $60 million bonus, and gave it out to all 399 people who worked for him, plus another 72 who used to work for him. He didn’t tell anyone, but when the local newspaper found out, he simply said, ''I knew some of these people since I was 7 years old. I didn't feel right getting the money myself."
I think about Greensburg, Kansas, a town that was completely destroyed by a tornado, but is being rebuilt by its residents as a global example of how clean energy can power an entire community – how it can bring jobs and businesses to a place where piles of bricks and rubble once lay. "The tragedy was terrible," said one of the men who helped them rebuild. "But the folks here know that it also provided an incredible opportunity."
And I think about Ty’Sheoma Bethea, the young girl from that school I visited in Dillon, South Carolina – a place where the ceilings leak, the paint peels off the walls, and they have to stop teaching six times a day because the train barrels by their classroom. She has been told that her school is hopeless, but the other day after class she went to the public library and typed up a letter to the people sitting in this room. She even asked her principal for the money to buy a stamp. The letter asks us for help, and says, "We are just students trying to become lawyers, doctors, congressmen like yourself and one day president, so we can make a change to not just the state of South Carolina but also the world. We are not quitters."
We are not quitters.
These words and these stories tell us something about the spirit of the people who sent us here. They tell us that even in the most trying times, amid the most difficult circumstances, there is a generosity, a resilience, a decency, and a determination that perseveres; a willingness to take responsibility for our future and for posterity.
Their resolve must be our inspiration. Their concerns must be our cause. And we must show them and all our people that we are equal to the task before us.
I know that we haven’t agreed on every issue thus far, and there are surely times in the future when we will part ways. But I also know that every American who is sitting here tonight loves this country and wants it to succeed. That must be the starting point for every debate we have in the coming months, and where we return after those debates are done. That is the foundation on which the American people expect us to build common ground.
And if we do – if we come together and lift this nation from the depths of this crisis; if we put our people back to work and restart the engine of our prosperity; if we confront without fear the challenges of our time and summon that enduring spirit of an America that does not quit, then someday years from now our children can tell their children that this was the time when we performed, in the words that are carved into this very chamber, "something worthy to be remembered." Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.

[johnsmith]

I ended up having to read a transcript of the speech because I couldn't stand to watch Pelosi.

I sincerely hope she gets hit by a bus.

[Winehole23]

The Jindal transcript (http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/24/sotn.jindal.transcript/).

Delivery was stilted and mechanical as universally noted but it was a smart speech IMO.

Jindal led with his own immigrant story, then folded self-promotion with declarations of GOP bona fides (whatever passes for that), hitting most of the same themes as Obama and attempting to outdo his -- ...pause... I've forgotten the word just now...

Optimism about America.

Jindal's dismal debut on the national stage will no doubt spur him to acquire some chops on TV. Should he somehow manage to do so he could be a serious opponent for Obama in 2012.

Themes and talking points:
Americans can do anything.

On the bailout
Democratic (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/U_S_Democratic_Party_Politics) leaders say their legislation will grow the economy. What it will do is grow the government, increase our taxes down the line, and saddle future generations with debt. Who among us would ask our children for a loan, so we could spend money we do not have, on things we do not need? That is precisely what the Democrats in Congress just did. It's irresponsible. And it's no way to strengthen our economy, create jobs, or build a prosperous future for our children.

Energy
To stop that from happening, we need to increase conservation, increase energy efficiency, increase the use of alternative and renewable fuels, increase our use of nuclear power, and increase drilling for oil and gas here at home.

Tax cuts
Since I became governor, we cut more than 250 earmarks from our state budget. To create jobs for our citizens, we cut taxes six times -- including the largest income tax cut in the history of our state. We passed those tax cuts with bipartisan majorities. Republicans and Democrats put aside their differences -- we worked together to make sure our people could keep more of what they earn. If it can be done in Baton Rouge, surely it can be done in Washington, D.C.

Universal health care?
We stand for universal access to affordable health care coverage.
Skools
After Katrina, we reinvented the New Orleans school system, opening dozens of new charter schools, and creating a new scholarship program that is giving parents the chance to send their children to private or parochial schools of their choice. We believe that, with the proper education, the children of America can do anything.



Tough talk, but Jindal has local cred on the topic
Last year, we passed some of the strongest ethics laws in the nation and today, Louisiana has turned her back on the corruption of the past. We need to bring transparency to Washington, D.C., so we can rid our Capitol of corruption and ensure we never see the passage of another trillion dollar spending bill that Congress has not even read and the American people haven't even seen.

Security boilerplate
As we take these steps, we must remember for all our troubles at home, dangerous enemies still seek our destruction. Now is no time to dismantle the defenses that have protected this country for hundreds of years, or make deep cuts in funding for our troops.

Katrina Anecdote
Those of us who lived through Hurricane Katrina -- we have our doubts.

Let me tell you a story.


During Katrina, I visited Sheriff Harry Lee, a Democrat and a good friend of mine. When I walked into his makeshift office, I'd never seen him so angry. He was yelling into the phone: "Well, I'm the Sheriff and if you don't like it you can come and arrest me!" I asked him: "Sheriff, what's got you so mad?" He told me that he had put out a call for volunteers to come with their boats to rescue people who were trapped on their rooftops by the floodwaters. The boats were all lined up ready to go, when some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn't go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration. I told him, "Sheriff, that's ridiculous." And before I knew it, he was yelling into the phone: "Congressman Jindal is here, and he says you can come and arrest him too!" Harry just told the boaters to ignore the bureaucrats and go start rescuing people.


Oblique reference to National Socialism?
In all these areas, Republicans want to work with President Obama. We appreciate his message of hope, but sometimes it seems we look for hope in different places. Democratic leaders in Washington -- they place their hope in the federal government. We place our hope in you, the American people. In the end, it comes down to an honest and fundamental disagreement about the proper role of government. We oppose the National Democratic view that says the way to strengthen our country is to increase dependence on government. We believe the way to strengthen our country is to restrain spending in Washington, to empower individuals and small businesses to grow our economy and to create jobs.

In recent years, these distinctions in philosophy became less clear -- our party got away from its principles. You elected Republicans to champion limited government, fiscal discipline and personal responsibility. Instead, Republicans went along with earmarks and big government spending in Washington. Republicans lost your trust -- and rightly so.

Tonight, on behalf of our leaders in Congress and my fellow Republican governors, I say this: Our party is determined to regain your trust. We will do so by standing up for the principles that we share, the principles you elected us to fight for, the principles that built this into the greatest, most prosperous country on earth.

Prove it
And where we disagree, Republicans have a responsibility to be candid and offer better ideas for a path forward.

[Winehole23]

I ended up having to read a transcript of the speech because I couldn't stand to watch Pelosi.

I sincerely hope she gets hit by a bus.johnsmith:

For completeness, in the future please provide a link. Don't hoard the knowledge.

Thanks,

WH23

[balli]

Makes you wonder how in the fuck this guy was ever a Rhodes Scholar.

What should government do? A Jindal meditation

What is the appropriate role of government?

Traditionally, the division between conservatives and liberals has been over the role and size of the welfare state: liberals think that the government should play a large role in sanding off the market economy’s rough edges, conservatives believe that time and chance happen to us all, and that’s that.

But both sides, I thought, agreed that the government should provide public goods — goods that are nonrival (they benefit everyone) and nonexcludable (there’s no way to restrict the benefits to people who pay.) The classic examples are things like lighthouses and national defense, but there are many others. For example, knowing when a volcano is likely to erupt can save many lives; but there’s no private incentive to spend money on monitoring, since even people who didn’t contribute to maintaining the monitoring system can still benefit from the warning. So that’s the sort of activity that should be undertaken by government.

So what did Bobby Jindal choose to ridicule in this response to Obama last night? Volcano monitoring, of course.

And leaving aside the chutzpah of casting the failure of his own party’s governance as proof that government can’t work, does he really think that the response to natural disasters like Katrina is best undertaken by uncoordinated private action? Hey, why bother having an army? Let’s just rely on self-defense by armed citizens.

The intellectual incoherence is stunning. Basically, the political philosophy of the GOP right now seems to consist of snickering at stuff that they think sounds funny. The party of ideas has become the party of Beavis and Butthead.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/what-should-government-do-a-jindal-meditation/

[LockBeard]

hate on jindal hate on jindal hate on jindal suck some bama dick hate on jindal hate on jindal slurp slurp slurp Go America

[balli]

He embarrassed himself and his party on national TV. Completely butchered a major speech. If you don't want to hear about it, get the fuck out of the political forum and go talk about Rhianna in the club.


Aside: I thought one of the best parts of the night was when Obama as clearly as possible promised not to raise taxes on anyone making under $250,000. Given how prone the republicans are to straight lying about Obama's tax plans, their reaction was utterly priceless.

[Winehole23]

hate on jindal hate on jindal hate on jindal suck some bama dick hate on jindal hate on jindal slurp slurp slurp Go AmericaDo you read at all, LockBeard? I actually had one or two nice things to say about Bobby Jindal apart from giving him oxygen to breathe in this thread.

[Winehole23]

Makes you wonder how in the fuck this guy was ever a Rhodes Scholar. The Louisiana liberals I know fear and respect Bobby Jindal even if they aren't personally taken in by him.

Ethics reform in Lousiana is no joke, even though Jindal initially proposed to except himself from the law's purview. The legislature wouldn't budge until the Governor relented, so he relented. The reform goes top to bottom, and that's practically a first in LA.

[balli]

The Louisiana liberals I know fear and respect Bobby Jindal even if they aren't personally taken in by him.

Ethics reform in Lousiana is no joke, even though Jindal proposed to except himself from the law's purview. The legislature wouldn't budge until the Governor relented, so he relented. The reform goes top to bottom, and that's practically a first in LA.
I actually don't know much about him, but I have gotten the impression that yes, he is ethical, as well as smart. He's never been a guy I had serious umbrage with and I was really looking forward to hearing him last night. And that's why I was so dismayed by what I heard.

Now I'm not ready to entirely write off Bobby Jindal (the more I learn, the more I may like him), but as a person who was explicitly watching last night to learn more about him, I have to say, he left a hell of a bad first impression.

[Holt's Cat]

Fifty minutes of handouts for a nation in which a minority actually pay federal income taxes.

[Winehole23]

Now I'm not ready to entirely write off Bobby Jindal (the more I learn, the more I may like him)White bread Republican. You won't like him.

[balli]

White bread Republican. You won't like him.
The only thing is, and this totally undercuts my screed against the inanity of his spending argument, but neverminding the recession, in general I can respect politicians, right and left, who promote fiscal responsibility. And Bobby Jindal wasn't one of the republicans who racked up this deficit; in fact he's seemingly been critical of congressional republicans, IIRC.

And right now, obviously, his fiscal beliefs are meritless. He doesn't seem to understand that any spending in America is good spending. But I'm more inclined to respect a true fiscal conservative trapped between the crisis and his beliefs, than any number of Republicans who spent us into this deficit.

On social issues he's rigidly conservative right? Which sucks, but at the same time he doesn't strike me as a dude who's gonna get caught with his dick in a place it shouldn't be. In other words, I think he's genuine.

But of course, I don't like him and never will. I thought he was a joke last night. Still, I think he has the potential to garner more of my respect than many other Republicans.

[Winehole23]

But of course, I don't like him and never will. I thought he was a joke last night. Still, I think he has the potential to garner more of my respect than many other Republicans.I thought he showed good judgment to withdraw himself from consideration as veep last year. And he positioned himself nicely for the GOP diversity road show rollout featuring RNC chairman, erstwhile hobo roller (http://www.gazette.net/stories/110706/princou134628_31968.shtml) and incipient hip-hopper, Michael Steele.

[florige]

I thought he showed good judgment to withdraw himself from consideration as veep last year. And he positioned himself nicely for the GOP diversity road show rollout featuring RNC chairman and hobo roller (http://www.gazette.net/stories/110706/princou134628_31968.shtml) Michael Steele.



He was supposed to be a figurehead to counter Obama. Jindal would have been a much better candidate than that empty suit.

[Winehole23]

He was supposed to be a figurehead to counter Obama. He might still.

Damn sight better than Palin IMO.

[DarkReign]

Why? In the end if you drop out you are more than likely to become a financial burden on your country than you are to actually contribute something to the society.

This much is true, yes.


I may be wrong, but you've asked for him to speak to you like an adult if I remember correctly. He did just that with that line. I'm very surprised to see you had an issue with it.

Ive never for a moment thought Obama spoke down to his audience (me included). His oratory skills are reason numero uno he won to begin with...hes in elite company when it comes to speech-writing. Ive always thought him speaking to "us" like an adult is what seperated him from his competition. So far, he hasnt let that part of his game slip an inch.

My objection to such a statement (that "dropping out of high school is not only quitting on yourself, its quitting on your country") is what such a statement implies.

Are we going to start punishing high school drop-outs? Or ostracizing them in some way? What makes you better than a person who dropped out of high school (not you particularly, Manny)?

Like I said in the post you quoted, it just seemed a very odd choice of words ("quitting on your country" which to me is slightly less accusatory than treason). Since Obama isnt prone to verbal mishaps, nor is his vocabulary and word choice lacking, one can assume he meant exactly as he said.

And I do not agree with him in the slightest. I could guess that a vast majority of high school dropouts quit school for dubious reasons (school sucks), but not all of them. I am quite sure you could use your imagination to come up with at least 4 good reasons that high school becomes very unimportant.

My step-mother was a high school dropout and she'd work circles around me to this day. She was the oldest, her father died when she was 12, her mother died when she was 15. It was either be a typical adolescent and avoid your familial responsibilities and leave it to the state to decide your family's fate, or prove yourself, get emancipated and provide a home life for yourself and 2 younger siblings (who she sent to college, one is a lawyer (sister) one is a doctor (brother).

I employ 3 high school dropouts. Hardest working mother-jammers I employ. One comes from a dysfunctional home I wont even get into. Needless to say, I would have run away too, school be damned. The other made a poor choice and got a girl pregnant when they were 15, she had the kid when they were 16.

His family (and hers) rejected them and told them both "Welcome to the real world" (not uncommon in my experience with teenage pregnancy, tbh). They were thrown on the street early in her preganancy with no money and nowhere to live. Through a series of various moves and favors, they got by through her pregnancy until birth (State paid for it). He was working 3 jobs at 16, 15+ hours a day. Some time after he turned 18, I hired him. That was 6 years ago and his baby girl is doing quite well in school and her health insurance is taken care of thru his employer (me).

My point is, a sweeping indictment on all high school dropouts is dumb, to say the least. I am not blind and fully realize out of the 15 or so dropouts I personally know, 10+ are for all the wrong reasons. But those 5 or so left over had hard, hard lives and had to grow up a helluva lot faster than me (and I was never a child, per say, Ive been employed since I was 11 (dishwasher, pizza maker, bus boy, burger flipper, furniture salesman, welder, shipping and receiving manager (hardly management, but that was my title), detailer (engineering thing), quality control, upper management, General Manager)).

Ive never been unemployed. Ive never collected an unemployment check in my life, nor will I ever (I can say that with utmost confidence). Yet I hold no grudge against those who have or those who havent made the same choices I have. I dont pretend to understand their situation and every factor that plays a role in his/her life. It just surprised me that the POTUS chose not to mince words on a subject that bears some level of sentiment. Instead, he chose condemnation, which is quite odd and a little troubling.

Someone has to make your food, wash your dishes, clean your car at the carwash, etc, etc. People with any semblance of an education do not perform these tasks. The under-educated do and you know what....theyre damn good at it and dont demand much money for their service.

Obviously, graduation rates in this country (and particularly the Detroit area) need to increase rapidly. But what does that even mean? Lower the bar? Make them learn/participate? Cant make people learn anything (ask any advertiser), no....the only thing you can do is lower the standard, inflating the graduation numbers but churning out the same, under-educated masses we always have save now they have a meaningless high school diploma.

The POTUS didnt expand on this subject, nor do I think the Address to Congress was the appropriate time. But I would certainly like to know more about how a high school dropout has somehow quit his/her country with their decision, because that seems an awful lot of hyperbole or a real indication of Obama's view on nearly half of the American population (according to his stat he threw out).

[MannyIsGod]

You're reading far too much into it. FAR too much. I think Obama was just saying he wasnt more people to graduate.

[MannyIsGod]

Fifty minutes of handouts for a nation in which a minority actually pay federal income taxes.

I guess thats what you end up with when such a tiny minority hoard all the wealth.

[DarkReign]

You're reading far too much into it. FAR too much. I think Obama was just saying he wasnt more people to graduate.

Also very possible. But those were strong words, "quitting on your country", if he didnt mean them as spoken.

[Holt's Cat]

I guess thats what you end up with when such a tiny minority hoard all the wealth.

You actually believe that? Stick to waxing your barometer.

[MannyIsGod]

You actually believe that? Stick to waxing your barometer.

Its a fact. A small percentage of this country controls the majority of the wealth. Stick to fluffing your pussy.

[Winehole23]

Either of you guys wearing jock support? Link (http://www.lcurve.org/), please.

[Holt's Cat]

Its a fact. A small percentage of this country controls the majority of the wealth. Stick to fluffing your pussy.

So now it's control instead of hoard. How convenient. Still doesn't justify a minority paying income taxes to carry deadweight such as yourself.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Its a fact. A small percentage of this country controls the majority of the wealth. Stick to fluffing your pussy.

And yet you support an administration who by all actions since assuming control of our country is working hard to consolidate more power over all of our lives for itself and its party.

[MannyIsGod]

So now it's control instead of hoard. How convenient. Still doesn't justify a minority paying income taxes to carry deadweight such as yourself.


LOL I'm deadweight now? How much did I pay in income tax this year? I'm pretty sure you won't hit the mark here.

In any event, they control and hoard the wealth for themselves. There has been a consolidation of wealth in this country over the past half century - it hasn't gone the other way around.

LOL @ how butt hurt you are. Awww.

[MannyIsGod]

And yet you support an administration who by all actions since assuming control of our country is working hard to consolidate more power over all of our lives for itself and its party.

:lmao

[balli]

So now it's control instead of hoard. How convenient. Still doesn't justify a minority paying income taxes to carry deadweight such as yourself.

Go fuck yourself asshole.

[Holt's Cat]

LOL I'm deadweight now? How much did I pay in income tax this year? I'm pretty sure you won't hit the mark here.


Probably $0.



In any event, they control and hoard the wealth for themselves. There has been a consolidation of wealth in this country over the past half century - it hasn't gone the other way around.


Ah, yes, the "they."

[Holt's Cat]

Go fuck yourself asshole.

Poor baby.

[baseline bum]

Either of you guys wearing jock support? Link (http://www.lcurve.org/), please.

Nice. Someday the right wing will succeed in making that distribution into a true Dirac function.

[MannyIsGod]

Probably $0.


O Rly? I"ll publish my tax return on here if you publish yours.




Ah, yes, the "they."

[Winehole23]

Nice. Someday the right wing will succeed in making that distribution into a true Dirac function (http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/%7Egerlach/math/BVtypset/node28.html).Once more please for the math impaired?

[baseline bum]

Dirac "function" is a nonnegative curve whose area under it is always 1, that has essentially infinite slope. It's technically not a function since it is hypothesized to be infinite at one point, zero everywhere else, with unit area under the curve (that curve would have area 0 techincally, since the measure of a finite set is 0).

Consider the dirac function of mean x0. Approximate it as a spike, or an isoceles triangle sitting on the x-axis, centered at some x0, whose height is y0 and whose area is 1.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2391/isoc.png

so,


area = area of triangle on left of blue line + area of triangle on right of blue line
= 1/2 (h/2)* y0 + 1/2 * (h/2) * y0
= h/2 * y0
= 1


So, y0 = 2/h if area is 1.

(Aside: I don't know why I drew the thing using the name h for width instead of w. :lol)

Anyways, say you squeeze the triangle on left and right to make h smaller, but it keeps its area. Then, that can only happen if y gets larger (since y=2/h, and h got smaller). Dirac delta of mean x0 is the limit of squeezing this spike until h -> 0, which means y = 2/h -> infinity.

It was kind of a joke. The wealth of our nation is the area 1, and Bush kept squeezing the spike until almost all of that area 1 is right near that 100th percentile of citizens. Not a perfect analogy since the L graph is one-sided and roughly exponential, but a similar idea.

EDIT: Wow, GIMP really butchered that image :lol

[Winehole23]

That was, ah, too subtle by half.


Thanks for the demo just the same, baseline bum.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think its one of the most hilarious things in american history that they're actually saying this guy can be a republican candidate in 2012. It's like...he's neither old nor white enough.

[DarkReign]

Dirac "function" is a nonnegative curve whose area under it is always 1, that has essentially infinite slope. It's technically not a function since it is hypothesized to be infinite at one point, zero everywhere else, with unit area under the curve (that curve would have area 0 techincally, since the measure of a finite set is 0).

Consider the dirac function of mean x0. Approximate it as a spike, or an isoceles triangle sitting on the x-axis, centered at some x0, whose height is y0 and whose area is 1.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2391/isoc.png

so,


area = area of triangle on left of blue line + area of triangle on right of blue line
= 1/2 (h/2)* y0 + 1/2 * (h/2) * y0
= h/2 * y0
= 1


So, y0 = 2/h if area is 1.

(Aside: I don't know why I drew the thing using the name h for width instead of w. :lol)

Anyways, say you squeeze the triangle on left and right to make h smaller, but it keeps its area. Then, that can only happen if y gets larger (since y=2/h, and h got smaller). Dirac delta of mean x0 is the limit of squeezing this spike until h -> 0, which means y = 2/h -> infinity.

It was kind of a joke. The wealth of our nation is the area 1, and Bush kept squeezing the spike until almost all of that area 1 is right near that 100th percentile of citizens. Not a perfect analogy since the L graph is one-sided and roughly exponential, but a similar idea.

EDIT: Wow, GIMP really butchered that image :lol

Im sure there are like, 3 people on this entire forum that understood this.

[spursfor5]

Dirac "function" is a nonnegative curve whose area under it is always 1, that has essentially infinite slope. It's technically not a function since it is hypothesized to be infinite at one point, zero everywhere else, with unit area under the curve (that curve would have area 0 techincally, since the measure of a finite set is 0).

Consider the dirac function of mean x0. Approximate it as a spike, or an isoceles triangle sitting on the x-axis, centered at some x0, whose height is y0 and whose area is 1.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2391/isoc.png

so,


area = area of triangle on left of blue line + area of triangle on right of blue line
= 1/2 (h/2)* y0 + 1/2 * (h/2) * y0
= h/2 * y0
= 1


So, y0 = 2/h if area is 1.

(Aside: I don't know why I drew the thing using the name h for width instead of w. :lol)

Anyways, say you squeeze the triangle on left and right to make h smaller, but it keeps its area. Then, that can only happen if y gets larger (since y=2/h, and h got smaller). Dirac delta of mean x0 is the limit of squeezing this spike until h -> 0, which means y = 2/h -> infinity.

It was kind of a joke. The wealth of our nation is the area 1, and Bush kept squeezing the spike until almost all of that area 1 is right near that 100th percentile of citizens. Not a perfect analogy since the L graph is one-sided and roughly exponential, but a similar idea.

EDIT: Wow, GIMP really butchered that image :lol

I about died laughing when I saw this.

I guess my tuition is going to good use.

[baseline bum]

Im sure there are like, 3 people on this entire forum that understood this.

That's the simplified version. It's gotta be easier to read than the previous link with all the integrals. :lol

[Winehole23]

So then Dirac Function maps the squishing of a triangle, to put it like a tyro?