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ChumpDumper
02-24-2009, 09:39 PM
I have been informed by someone representing the Toros that my taking pictures at the games is a violation of whatever policy they have, and requested I delete all the pictures I had in my camera at the time. I apologize for not being able to provide you with Toros game pictures any longer.

Joe Schmoogins
02-24-2009, 10:25 PM
wow that's a bummer... I enjoyed your pics chump.

Spurs Brazil
02-24-2009, 10:26 PM
I have been informed by someone representing the Toros that my taking pictures at the games is a violation of whatever policy they have, and requested I delete all the pictures I had in my camera at the time. I apologize for not being able to provide you with Toros game pictures any longer.

WTF???

Why can't you take pictures at a game

Mr.Bottomtooth
02-24-2009, 10:27 PM
Damn that sucks, oh well.
It was good while it lasted :tu.

duncan228
02-24-2009, 10:27 PM
Harsh. You had quite the talent for it too. I'll miss the pics but please keep the game recaps coming.

mouse
02-24-2009, 10:29 PM
Now you know how the truth for 9/11 people feel.

tp2021
02-24-2009, 10:53 PM
You'd think if it was their policy, they would've noticed the guy in the front row by the basket with an expensive camera by now.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-24-2009, 10:54 PM
That's no way to treat 1-30th of their fan base

loveforthegame
02-24-2009, 10:56 PM
That's a stupid policy.

Thanks for all the pictures you did post though.

DANILO DRASKOVIC
02-24-2009, 10:57 PM
I have been informed by someone representing the Toros that my taking pictures at the games is a violation of whatever policy they have, and requested I delete all the pictures I had in my camera at the time. I apologize for not being able to provide you with Toros game pictures any longer.

Dear Toros representative,

go fuck yourself.

benefactor
02-24-2009, 10:57 PM
That is pretty stupid. It's not like they have fans falling out of their ass.

pad300
02-24-2009, 10:58 PM
I have been informed by someone representing the Toros that my taking pictures at the games is a violation of whatever policy they have, and requested I delete all the pictures I had in my camera at the time. I apologize for not being able to provide you with Toros game pictures any longer.

Chump, it's a FREE COUNTRY... Tell them to go jump in a fucking lake. Your not affecting any revenue stream of theirs, as they aren't selling pictures themselves. You're not selling the pictures either. At that point they have copyright argument... Owning and using a camera is not against the law. Anything you see (legally) you are allowed to take a picture of unless there is a copyright argument against, similar to any conversation you take part in, you are allowed to record (without I might add, telling any other party about it).

Hemotivo
02-24-2009, 10:59 PM
wow that's a bummer... I enjoyed your pics chump.


Now you know how the truth for 9/11 people feel.

benefactor
02-24-2009, 11:00 PM
You need to talk to FWD about this.

Re-Animator
02-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Send about 500 emails to the president of the school saying your going to boycott the school and all the advertisers they use.

whottt
02-24-2009, 11:26 PM
Looks like they've got some brilliant folks that know how to win over the fans running that operation...not that the Toros needs fans or anything.

Steve-O-Matic
02-24-2009, 11:35 PM
Unbelievable. That league needs all the free marketing it can get. As if Chump's pics were somehow compromising their licensing and......ah to hell with it.

timvp
02-24-2009, 11:36 PM
That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Hopefully that Toros guy is reading this right now and realizes that ChumpDumper and his pics have been responsible for countless people getting interested in the Toros, going to their games and thus adding revenue to their fledgling business model.

Great way to treat CD who is your best source for coverage and analysis ... not to mention free advertising. We'll go ahead and cancel the SpursTalk get together at the Toros game we were planning until we get further explanation on this BS.

:td

bigdog
02-24-2009, 11:39 PM
That completely sucks in every way possible. It's not like the Toros get much coverage anywhere else. Chump is the reason the majority of the people on this board even know about the Toros. That's stupid.

Spur|n|Austin
02-24-2009, 11:40 PM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/djchappy/CurbYourEnthusiasm-LarryDavidStare.gif

pretttty pretttty pretttttyyyy shitty

tp2021
02-24-2009, 11:40 PM
That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Hopefully that Toros guy is reading this right now and realizes that ChumpDumper and his pics have been responsible for countless people getting interested in the Toros, going to their games and thus adding revenue to their fledgling business model.

Great way to treat CD who is your best source for coverage and analysis ... not to mention free advertising. We'll go ahead and cancel the SpursTalk get together at the Toros game we were planning until we get further explanation on this BS.

:td


This was the first thing I thought of:

http://www.genehack.org/images/oh-fuck.jpg

:lol

ducks
02-24-2009, 11:41 PM
That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Hopefully that Toros guy is reading this right now and realizes that ChumpDumper and his pics have been responsible for countless people getting interested in the Toros, going to their games and thus adding revenue to their fledgling business model.

Great way to treat CD who is your best source for coverage and analysis ... not to mention free advertising. We'll go ahead and cancel the SpursTalk get together at the Toros game we were planning until we get further explanation on this BS.

:td


this needs to get in the sa paper

gospursgojas
02-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Typical AUstin

The Power Hour.
02-24-2009, 11:43 PM
That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. :td

Kinda like when that lawyer called you to make mouse change his screen name? :lmao

Spurminator
02-24-2009, 11:43 PM
That's really, really stupid.

smrattler
02-24-2009, 11:43 PM
Unbelievable. That league needs all the free marketing it can get. As if Chump's pics were somehow compromising their licensing and......ah to hell with it.


Was about to type this very thing, took the words right out of my mouth.

If I'm someone with interest (mulah) in this league, I'm begging people to do whatever to get people interested!!!

Spur|n|Austin
02-24-2009, 11:44 PM
Typical AUstin


Your absolutely right, it's the city who's responsible for this.. :rolleyes

timvp
02-24-2009, 11:44 PM
Chump, it's a FREE COUNTRY... Tell them to go jump in a fucking lake. Your not affecting any revenue stream of theirs, as they aren't selling pictures themselves. You're not selling the pictures either. At that point they have copyright argument... Owning and using a camera is not against the law. Anything you see (legally) you are allowed to take a picture of unless there is a copyright argument against, similar to any conversation you take part in, you are allowed to record (without I might add, telling any other party about it).Technically, the Toros were probably within their rights. But whatever reasoning they have to specifically target CD is absurd. There's no way that CD pictures, reports, analysis, updates, etc. have done anything else but help out the Toros.

gospursgojas
02-24-2009, 11:45 PM
Your absolutely right, it's the city who's responsible for this.. :rolleyes

See what Im talking bout

Blue Jew
02-24-2009, 11:46 PM
Just send Sequ over there to bite off his knee caps.

Spurminator
02-24-2009, 11:47 PM
Technically, the Toros were probably within their rights. But whatever reasoning they have to specifically target CD is absurd. There's no way that CD pictures, reports, analysis, updates, etc. have done anything else but help out the Toros.


I disagree, I was going to buy a lifesize action photo print from TorosStore.com but since Chump posted his shots for free I just took a few of those and printed them at Wal-Mart. Score!

Stacie
02-24-2009, 11:47 PM
Do what I do and put some pubes on their hot wings!

Tree hugger
02-24-2009, 11:49 PM
I wish we could all just get along! :)

ducks
02-24-2009, 11:49 PM
I disagree, I was going to buy a lifesize action photo print from TorosStore.com but since Chump posted his shots for free I just took a few of those and printed them at Wal-Mart. Score!

chump could embed the image a backgroud image
so you coud not do that

half a man
02-24-2009, 11:51 PM
What ever ST does don't just do it half way!

SpursGirl21
02-24-2009, 11:52 PM
Were any of these guys hot looking?

whottt
02-24-2009, 11:52 PM
Technically, the Toros were probably within their rights.

Right they are...they can have him thrown out and banned from the building and all future Toros events if he doesn't honor that request.

And they are hardasses about it in Austin...


But just to prove how ridiculous this is...there is no greedier territorial entity in the State of Texas than the UT Athletic Department, and even they let you take closeup pictures with a regular digital camera(no extreme telephoto though).

pickle girl
02-24-2009, 11:53 PM
Trust me TimVp has this problem licked!

Hitler
02-24-2009, 11:54 PM
I thought this kind of shit only went on during my time!

timvp
02-25-2009, 12:09 AM
Hopefully it was just some clueless employee who didn't realize he was talking to ChumpDumper and there's some sort of Toros apology.

We'll see.

SequSpur
02-25-2009, 12:13 AM
who cares... who are the toros anyway?

Hіtler
02-25-2009, 12:15 AM
I wonder if he's a relative.

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 12:17 AM
Thanks for the appreciation and the funny posts. It was just a little weird after three and a half seasons of picture-taking impunity. They certainly are within their rights, so I can't really complain.

SequSpur
02-25-2009, 12:19 AM
Thanks for the appreciation and the funny posts. It was just a little weird after three and a half seasons of picture-taking impunity. They certainly are within their rights, so I can't really complain.

don't be a puss, buy a smaller camera, wear a mustache and a hat, they won't know you..

Russ
02-25-2009, 12:42 AM
If I'm the D league and I see a guy putting pictures of my games on the web, I ask if there's any way I can improve the lighting. :)

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 12:48 AM
don't be a puss, buy a smaller camera, wear a mustache and a hat, they won't know you..I am already testing a new system.

http://www.keysvoices.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/catcam2.jpg

NFGIII
02-25-2009, 12:49 AM
-100 + :td = :loser

Unbelievable and not a very smart thing to do to their customer base. Well if they wanted some publicity then I think they will get some out of this. I hope this comes to light in the papers in Austin as well as the Spurs FO.

Hang in there CD. I don't think this one is over just yet.

mouse
02-25-2009, 12:50 AM
Dude you want me to let you use one of my 3 other screen names to post the pics? Good luck them trying to take me to court.

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 12:53 AM
-100 + :td = :loser

Unbelievable and not a very smart thing to do to their customer base. Well if they wanted some publicity then I think they will get some out of this. I hope this comes to light in the papers in Austin as well as the Spurs FO.

Hang in there CD. I don't think this one is over just yet.Oh, I don't think it's that big a deal -- I just wanted to let folks know there won't be any more pictures. If it's something I have to do to keep attending games, that's fine.

Russ
02-25-2009, 12:57 AM
If it's something I have to do to keep attending games, that's fine.

Just as long as they don't start charging admission.

NFGIII
02-25-2009, 12:58 AM
You're probably right but the initial thought was "What?? They need all the support and publicity they can get. For Pete's sakes it the D League!"

But I like your new system. Tell us all how that works out.

TDMVPDPOY
02-25-2009, 01:00 AM
what fkn hypocrites than, stuff that

cumdumper dont support these clowns man....

if it weren't for you and the updates about the toros, probably a majority of the posters in here wouldnt even give a shit about the toros or D-LEAGUE.

ElNono
02-25-2009, 01:01 AM
Is there anybody we can email or call? Maybe some online petition?

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 01:04 AM
Is there anybody we can email or call? Maybe some online petition?Please don't.

ElNono
02-25-2009, 01:06 AM
Please don't.

No problem, Chump. Just trying to think of something. Maybe some way to get yourself a press pass?

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 01:18 AM
You're probably right but the initial thought was "What?? They need all the support and publicity they can get. For Pete's sakes it the D League!"

But I like your new system. Tell us all how that works out.Phase II:

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/20/pigeon.jpg

Alex Jones
02-25-2009, 01:23 AM
I don't get how Chump can prove the WTC towers fell at free fall speed due to fuel and gravity and Bush had no idea what to do, and yet he can't seem to figure out how to get a bunch of wannabe pro players on film?

TDMVPDPOY
02-25-2009, 01:28 AM
I don't get how Chump can prove the WTC towers fell at free fall speed due to fuel and gravity and Bush had no idea what to do, and yet he can't seem to figure out how to get a bunch of wannabe pro players on film?

x-files biatches...:downspin:

duncan228
02-25-2009, 01:35 AM
Phase II:

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/20/pigeon.jpg

:lol

jayc23
02-25-2009, 01:39 AM
What a ignorant waste of breath that rep is.

Kori Ellis
02-25-2009, 01:59 AM
Is the Toros official policy for no cameras?

For example at Spurs games, the policy is that cameras are fine (unless they have a detachable lens). I would have thought the Toros policy was the same.

SpursTalk=free marketing for the Toros through Chump Dumper. I would think they'd understand that having your product on a website that gets millions of page views a month is beneficial.

Hopefully, they'll re-think their stance.

Laker Lanny
02-25-2009, 02:00 AM
What I want to know is who snitched?

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 02:01 AM
What I want to know is who snitched?It was probably whottt. He has event staff connections.

Stacie
02-25-2009, 02:06 AM
I hope ST doesn't fold and they take this shit to court! :tu

whottt
02-25-2009, 02:48 AM
It was probably whottt. He has event staff connections.

Shithead :lol


I actually work with a guy who used to be pretty high up there and might still have connections. I work with several more than I believe are pretty high up there right now(but most likely in the wrong department). Without mentioning any names or specific incidents, I will ask them some questions and see if anything can be done about this. I doubt much will happen since I guess it's probably the Toros policy and not the Convention Centers. But they might know some ways to get by that policy.

If I were you I'd go talk to the Marketing Dept there(I assume they have one) and tell them what you do with your pictures and why you take them and see if they can get word to the Toros. You might get a Pass out of it. If anyone outside of the Toros can influence them and also get the true value of what you are doing...it would be the Convention CTR marketing department. You have literally nothing to lose by dropping by and talking to them.

What you are doing hurts no one and help everyone.

Seriously..the Toros should be kissing your ass and they aren't really in any position at all to be cutting off venues to potential fans.

whottt
02-25-2009, 02:56 AM
Is the Toros official policy for no cameras?

For example at Spurs games, the policy is that cameras are fine (unless they have a detachable lens). I would have thought the Toros policy was the same.

That's UT's policy too...I can't believe the Toros are bigger Nazis about this than UT.


It'll be hilarious if we find out Chump was using a foot and a half long lens though.


SpursTalk=free marketing for the Toros through Chump Dumper. I would think they'd understand that having your product on a website that gets millions of page views a month is beneficial.

Hopefully, they'll re-think their stance.

Maybe they are aware of what he was doing and where he is doing it but saw how bad his political arguments are...

I could see it.

Slomo
02-25-2009, 04:26 AM
That might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Hopefully that Toros guy is reading this right now and realizes that ChumpDumper and his pics have been responsible for countless people getting interested in the Toros, going to their games and thus adding revenue to their fledgling business model.

Great way to treat CD who is your best source for coverage and analysis ... not to mention free advertising. We'll go ahead and cancel the SpursTalk get together at the Toros game we were planning until we get further explanation on this BS.

:td

I agree except that you and I both know of even more stupid stuff.


If I'm the D league and I see a guy putting pictures of my games on the web, I ask if there's any way I can improve the lighting. :)

:lol:tu


...

Maybe they are aware of what he was doing and where he is doing it but saw how bad his political arguments are...

I could see it.

:lmao

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 04:55 AM
That's UT's policy too...I can't believe the Toros are bigger Nazis about this than UT.


It'll be hilarious if we find out Chump was using a foot and a half long lens though.I was borrowing this one from a friend for the game. I hope I didn't delete any of his vacation photos.
http://gajahkurus.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/12674.jpg

Here's the one I usually use:

http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/495229239?$medium_item$

whottt
02-25-2009, 05:46 AM
I was borrowing this one from a friend for the game. I hope I didn't delete any of his vacation photos.
http://gajahkurus.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/12674.jpg

Here's the one I usually use:

http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/495229239?$medium_item$

That is truly ridiculous. UT actually will let you use a detatchable lens(even though they say they won't) of normal size unless it is a huge one.

LOL you ought to be able to still take them with your cellphone. If they won't let you do that they officially get the title of biggest ahole sports organization in the state.

But I am serious about the marketing department(again assuming they have one)...drop by and talk to them. They should always be interested in talking and you might be surprised by how much influence they can have....and where they can get you.

ChumpDumper
02-25-2009, 06:28 AM
Eh, seems like a lot of work. I go to the games for fun.

whottt
02-25-2009, 06:36 AM
Eh, seems like a lot of work. I go to the games for fun.

Hmmm...well yeah I guess you can't really argue with that sentiment. :tu

urunobili
02-25-2009, 08:25 AM
Kori, timvp is there any way you can get to help on this matter? This is insane... :pctoss

The whole international Spurs fan base wants Chumps scouting updates on the Spurs prospects i am sure... :wakeup

Please_dont_ban_me
02-25-2009, 10:53 AM
Technically, the Toros were probably within their rights. But whatever reasoning they have to specifically target CD is absurd. There's no way that CD pictures, reports, analysis, updates, etc. have done anything else but help out the Toros.

I'm assuming they saw him at the game, and asked him to stop.

They have no way of knowing he was helping to PROMOTE the Toros, and was advertising and all that good stuff for free. Maybe if he wrote an email / letter to them explaining the situation, and asked for permission, they would grant it.

shelshor
02-25-2009, 11:07 AM
Phase II:

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/20/pigeon.jpg

Is that one of the birds that were flying around the support beams Sunday?

If ya need help recruiting them, we can lend Bob & Dino to aid in brokering the deal--I would send Elvira, but she's a blabbermouth and would give away all your negotiating positions

Obstructed_View
02-25-2009, 11:09 AM
I took my S5is into the Toyota Center and shot all the pictures I wanted. That makes no sense whatsoever. The D League doing that is kind of like a teacher at the elementary school telling a parent not to take pictures of the Christmas play.

Spursmania
02-25-2009, 11:12 AM
Completely ridiculous. Someone should answer for that bullshit. Anyone should be able to take pics at a game and then post the pics. :ihit

spurastic
02-25-2009, 11:50 AM
It probably was one staff person who
1) made assumptions--just doesn't understand the camera rules
2) has a bruised ego but likes to act big
3) etc.

No reason to believe any one person at a game. If you asked three staff members (from Toros, Spurs, etc.) the same question, you would probably get three different answers. I expect that the policy is the same as for NBA.

jag
02-25-2009, 11:52 AM
How are you at live-action drawings? (courtroom style)

ChumpDumper
03-11-2009, 03:34 AM
Toros' win percentage when I was allowed to take pictures: .719

Toros' win percentage since I was banned from taking pictures: .333

Coincidence? You decide.

sheriee84
03-11-2009, 03:50 AM
Toros' win percentage when I was allowed to take pictures: .719

Toros' win percentage since I was banned from taking pictures: .333

Coincidence? You decide.

:lol