All-Time Starting Fives

[JoeTait75]

Atlanta

PG- Doc Rivers
SG- Pete Maravich
SF- Dominique Wilkins
PF- Dan Roundfield
C- Walt Bellamy

Boston

PG- Bob Cousy
SG- Paul Pierce
SF- Larry Bird
PF- Kevin McHale
C- Bill Russell

Cleveland

PG- Mark Price
SG- Austin Carr
SF- LeBron James
PF- Larry Nance
C- Brad Daugherty

Dallas

PG- Steve Nash
SG- Rolando Blackmon
SF- Mark Aguire
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
C-James Donaldson

Detroit

PG- Isaiah Thomas
SG- Joe Dumars
SF- Grant Hill
PF- Bill Laimbeer
C- Bob Lanier

Houston

PG- Kenny Smith
SG- Calvin Murphy
SF- Rudy Tomjanovich
PF- Moses Malone
C- Hakeem Olayjuwon

Los Angeles

PG- Jerry West
SG- Kobe Bryant
SF- Magic Johnson
PF- Elgin Baylor
C- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Phoenix

PG- Kevin Johnson
SG- Walter Davis
SF- Dan Majerle
PF- Charles Barkley
C- Alvan Adams

Portland

PG- Terry Porter
SG- Clyde Drexler
SF- Jerome Kersey
PF- Maurice Lucas
C- Bill Walton

San Antonio

PG- Tony Parker
SG- George Gervin
SF- Mike Mitchell
PF- Tim Duncan
C- David Robinson

Utah

PG- John Stockton
SG- Darrell Griffith
SF- Adrian Dantley
PF- Karl Malone
C- Mark Eaton

[Darrin]

Detroit Pistons:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Dave Bing
SF - Grant Hill
PF - Bill Laimbeer
C - Bob Lanier

It is blasphemy to put Billups over Thomas, but I think his size and ability to make others better is more than Thomas could offer at times.

[JoeTait75]

Bing and Dumars were the toss-up. I went with Joe because of his longitivity and his '89 Finals MVP.

[Killakobe81]

First agree you can not exclue Isiah as for Lakers ...Magic HAS to be the PG

So just to make a sensible lineup ...
PG Magic
SG West
SF Kobe
PF Kareem (this is the duncan at PF slot)
C shaq

[Killakobe81]

And when healthy i agree KJ over nash but how do you leave off a 2time MVP? (although i agree those wins were questionable)

[JoeTait75]

And when healthy i agree KJ over nash but how do you leave off a 2time MVP? (although i agree those wins were questionable)

Just because KJ spent the bulk of his career in Phoenix and Nash didn't. That's really the only reason.

Also, I should have put Kevin Willis at Atlanta's PF spot instead of Dan Roundfield. Had I includes their St. Louis years, Bob Pettit gets that spot.

Says something about the talent that has gone through L.A. that neither you nor I put James Worthy or Wilt in the all-time starting five. LakeShow has just had a ridiculous number of great players.

[Flo-Rida]

Miami Heat:
PG - Tim Hardaway
SG - Dwayne wade
SF - Glen Rice or Jamal Mashburn
PF - Pj Brown
C - Zo

[ambchang]

Bynum should be there in place of Jabbar. He's already better.

[Killakobe81]

Just because KJ spent the bulk of his career in Phoenix and Nash didn't. That's really the only reason.

Also, I should have put Kevin Willis at Atlanta's PF spot instead of Dan Roundfield. Had I includes their St. Louis years, Bob Pettit gets that spot.

Says something about the talent that has gone through L.A. that neither you nor I put James Worthy or Wilt in the all-time starting five. LakeShow has just had a ridiculous number of great players.

I considered worthy but Shaq meant even more to 3 titles than worthy did to his 4 ...but Big game james just missed out if i really stuck to positions ...

PG magic
SG kobe
SF worthy
PF Kareem (ok cheating a bit here)
C shaq

[pauls931]

Something obvious but I always think about. To be a championship team or have dynasty potential, you need 3 starters that are the best in their position in the league.

Look at spurs...
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili

Lakers
magic, Kareem, Worthy


Boston, fuck boston...

[MarHill]

Bynum should be there in place of Jabbar. He's already better.

I hope you are kidding!! :bang

[IronMexican]

Magic
Kobe
Worthy
Kareem
Shaq

[IronMexican]

Wow, me and killakobe got the same squad. Great minds think alike:lol

[Ghazi]

Something obvious but I always think about. To be a championship team or have dynasty potential, you need 3 starters that are the best in their position in the league.

Look at spurs...
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili

Lakers
magic, Kareem, Worthy


Boston, fuck boston...

There are better point guards and shooting guards than Parker and Ginobili.

[BlackSwordsMan]

duncan
parker
ginobili
the coyote
popovich

[anonoftheinternets]

I hope you are kidding!! :bang

dude u jus ruined an awesome barb at our laker friends ......

[Obstructed_View]

Detroit Pistons:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Dave Bing
SF - Grant Hill
PF - Bill Laimbeer
C - Bob Lanier

It is blasphemy to put Billups over Thomas, but I think his size and ability to make others better is more than Thomas could offer at times.

Then you never saw Thomas play. He was better in every phase of the game, and that's not a slam on Billups.

[jack sommerset]

Then you never saw Thomas play. He was better in every phase of the game, and that's not a slam on Billups.

What about Rodman. 5 rings, one of the greatest rebounders in the game.

[sook]

Detroit Pistons:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Dave Bing
SF - Grant Hill
PF - Bill Laimbeer
C - Bob Lanier

It is blasphemy to put Billups over Thomas, but I think his size and ability to make others better is more than Thomas could offer at times.

You have it mostly right, but no way in hell should you put billups over Isiah :lol

PG - Isiah Thomas
SG - Dave Bing
SF - Grant Hill
PF - Bill Laimbeer
C - Bob Lanier



For Rockets

PG- Calvin Murphy
SG- Otis Thorpe
SF- Clyde Drexler
PF- Ralph Sampson
C- Hakeem Olajuwon

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Just because KJ spent the bulk of his career in Phoenix and Nash didn't. That's really the only reason.

Also, I should have put Kevin Willis at Atlanta's PF spot instead of Dan Roundfield. Had I includes their St. Louis years, Bob Pettit gets that spot.

Says something about the talent that has gone through L.A. that neither you nor I put James Worthy or Wilt in the all-time starting five. LakeShow has just had a ridiculous number of great players.

KJ > Nash as far as Suns career goes.

[Thomas82]

How could you not have Bob Pettit at the PF spot for the Hawks?

[Galileo]

Atlanta

PG- Doc Rivers
SG- Pete Maravich
SF- Dominique Wilkins
PF- Dan Roundfield
C- Walt Bellamy

Boston

PG- Bob Cousy
SG- Paul Pierce
SF- Larry Bird
PF- Kevin McHale
C- Bill Russell

Cleveland

PG- Mark Price
SG- Austin Carr
SF- LeBron James
PF- Larry Nance
C- Brad Daugherty

Dallas

PG- Steve Nash
SG- Rolando Blackmon
SF- Mark Aguire
PF- Dirk Nowitzki
C-James Donaldson

Detroit

PG- Isaiah Thomas
SG- Joe Dumars
SF- Grant Hill
PF- Bill Laimbeer
C- Bob Lanier

Houston

PG- Kenny Smith
SG- Calvin Murphy
SF- Rudy Tomjanovich
PF- Moses Malone
C- Hakeem Olayjuwon

Los Angeles

PG- Jerry West
SG- Kobe Bryant
SF- Magic Johnson
PF- Elgin Baylor
C- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Phoenix

PG- Kevin Johnson
SG- Walter Davis
SF- Dan Majerle
PF- Charles Barkley
C- Alvan Adams

Portland

PG- Terry Porter
SG- Clyde Drexler
SF- Jerome Kersey
PF- Maurice Lucas
C- Bill Walton

San Antonio

PG- Tony Parker
SG- George Gervin
SF- Mike Mitchell
PF- Tim Duncan
C- David Robinson

Utah

PG- John Stockton
SG- Darrell Griffith
SF- Adrian Dantley
PF- Karl Malone
C- Mark Eaton

Where are the Bobcats??

[Galileo]

Then you never saw Thomas play. He was better in every phase of the game, and that's not a slam on Billups.

Agreed. Isaiah was a near-elite player, just a notch below Bird & Magic during his time, equal to Sidney Moncreif.

[Galileo]

Bing and Dumars were the toss-up. I went with Joe because of his longitivity and his '89 Finals MVP.

Bing was an elite player. Dumars was not.

[turiaf for president]

clippers

mark jackson
ron harper
danny manning
elton brand
benoit benjamin

[baseline bum]

San Antonio

PG - Tony Parker
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - George Gervin
PF - Tim Duncan
C - David Robinson

[baseline bum]

Detroit Pistons:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Dave Bing
SF - Grant Hill
PF - Bill Laimbeer
C - Bob Lanier

It is blasphemy to put Billups over Thomas, but I think his size and ability to make others better is more than Thomas could offer at times.

That's insanity. Isiah was a dominant point guard, and one of the great clutch players in NBA history. Billups > Isiah is like saying Gasol > Shaq.

[JoeTait75]

How could you not have Bob Pettit at the PF spot for the Hawks?

I only included the Atlanta years, not the St. Louis years.

[cobbler]

Wow, me and killakobe got the same squad. Great minds think alike:lol

or that you're both delusional:lol You cheated by putting Kareem at PF. Shaq is the 3rd best center and shouldnt be on the list period.

PG: Magic
SG: West
SF: Kobe
PF: Flip a coin Baylor/Worthy
C: Flip a coin Wilt/Kareem

[baseline bum]

Agreed. Isaiah was a near-elite player, just a notch below Bird & Magic during his time, equal to Sidney Moncreif.

Moncrief was nowhere close to Isiah. Isiah was an elite player under any definition of the word. He's gotta be one of the most underrated players in NBA history. Thomas has some of the most legendary playoff performances in the history of the league. It's too bad he never got to be on the Dream Team due to Jordan getting revenge on him for the freeze-out in the All-Star Game though.

[baseline bum]

Most of the list is pretty good though. I'd definitely swap Kenny Smith out for Drexler in H-Town, and I'd take Okur over Mark Eaton in Utah. Eaton may have good block numbers, but he was a really awkward player who didn't do much else.

[Pelicans78]

Hornets

PG CP3
SG Glen Rice (reach, but couldn't find a real SG)
SF Jamal Mashburn
PF Larry Johnson
C Alonzo Mourning

[JoeTait75]

Most of the list is pretty good though. I'd definitely swap Kenny Smith out for Drexler in H-Town, and I'd take Okur over Mark Eaton in Utah. Eaton may have good block numbers, but he was a really awkward player who didn't do much else.

- I wasn't so sure about Kenny Smith either. My thought was of bumping Murph to PG and sliding Robert Reid into the SG spot.

- I know Mark Eaton wasn't much of an offensive player, but he was a game-changer on the defensive end. Personally, I think Okur is a stiff.

[IronMexican]

or that you're both delusional:lol You cheated by putting Kareem at PF. Shaq is the 3rd best center and shouldnt be on the list period.

PG: Magic
SG: West
SF: Kobe
PF: Flip a coin Baylor/Worthy
C: Flip a coin Wilt/Kareem

Didn't you argue last time that even Mikan was better?

[cobbler]

Didn't you argue last time that even Mikan was better?

Yes.. I argued that Mikan could be considered better in that he dominated the league in his time and won more championships so i stand corrected.

[BobcatsDynasty]

Bobcats

PG - Knight
SG - Richardson
SF - Morrison
PF - Wallace
C - Okafor

[Bob Lanier]

Then you never saw Thomas play. He was better in every phase of the game, and that's not a slam on Billups.
More likely, he's trolling. Nice bite.

[Obstructed_View]

What about Rodman. 5 rings, one of the greatest rebounders in the game.

Putting Rodman on that team is debatable. Putting Isiah on it is not.


More likely, he's trolling. Nice bite.

Unlike you, at least he's on topic.

[Ghazi]

Mavs PG should be Devin Harris:bking

[Girasuck]

Utah

PG- John Stockton
SG- Darrell Griffith
SF- Adrian Dantley
PF- Karl Malone
C- Mark Eaton

Darrell Griffith over Pete Maravich? You got the other 4 right though. Maravich 1, Hornacek 2, Griffith 3.


and I'd take Okur over Mark Eaton in Utah. Eaton may have good block numbers, but he was a really awkward player who didn't do much else.

Wow. Mark Eaton is one of the 5 greatest defensive centers of all-time. The amount of points he took away on the defensive end far outweigh any of Okur's offensive numbers. If they kept the stat for altered shots, Eaton would be the all-time leader by a mile. The only thing I can come up with for you saying Okur over Eaton is that you didn't watch Eaton play.

[DAF86]

PG- Tony Parker
SG- George Gervin
SF- Mike Mitchell
PF- Tim Duncan
C- David Robinson

WTF man?

Parker
Ginobili
Gervin
Duncan
Robinson

That's the Spurs best 5. 99% of Spurs fans will tell you that. Even though I would put Sean over George.

[samikeyp]

WTF man?

Parker
Ginobili
Gervin
Duncan
Robinson

That's the Spurs best 5. 99% of Spurs fans will tell you that. Even though I would put Sean over George.

You think Sean Elliott was better than George Gervin?

[JoeTait75]

Darrell Griffith over Pete Maravich?

Same reason I left Bob Pettit off the Hawks' five. Location. I stuck with guys who played in Utah, not in NOLA.

[JoeTait75]

WTF man?

Parker
Ginobili
Gervin
Duncan
Robinson

That's the Spurs best 5. 99% of Spurs fans will tell you that. Even though I would put Sean over George.

You know, the only issue I had with the Spurs was putting Mike Mitchell in front of Sean. Manu I never considered. I know he's a great player, but I couldn't put him in front of the Iceman.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

or that you're both delusional:lol You cheated by putting Kareem at PF. Shaq is the 3rd best center and shouldnt be on the list period.

PG: Magic
SG: West
SF: Kobe
PF: Flip a coin Baylor/Worthy
C: Flip a coin Wilt/Kareem

I don't understand how Kobe is at SF over Baylor considering Baylor is better career wise and Kobe isn't even a SF.

[peskypesky]

SPURS

PG Tony Parker
SG George Gervin
SF Bruce Bowen
PF Tim Duncan
C David Robinson

You gotta have Gervin, but he wasn't a great defender, so you're going to need Bowen to defend the other team's best perimeter player. Remember kids, defense wins championships.

Bench:
PG James Silas
SG Manu Ginobili
SF Larry Kenon
PF Dennis Rodman
C Artis Gilmore

[baseline bum]

Darrell Griffith over Pete Maravich? You got the other 4 right though. Maravich 1, Hornacek 2, Griffith 3.



Wow. Mark Eaton is one of the 5 greatest defensive centers of all-time. The amount of points he took away on the defensive end far outweigh any of Okur's offensive numbers. If they kept the stat for altered shots, Eaton would be the all-time leader by a mile. The only thing I can come up with for you saying Okur over Eaton is that you didn't watch Eaton play.

I saw him 3 or 4 times a year live for most of his prime when Utah came to town, and I was never impressed by Eaton.

[baseline bum]

You know, the only issue I had with the Spurs was putting Mike Mitchell in front of Sean. Manu I never considered. I know he's a great player, but I couldn't put him in front of the Iceman.

Ice played at the SF early in his career, so it makes sense to put him at the three and Manu at the two.

[Josepatches_]

First agree you can not exclue Isiah as for Lakers ...Magic HAS to be the PG

So just to make a sensible lineup ...
PG Magic
SG West
SF Kobe
PF Kareem (this is the duncan at PF slot)
C shaq

If you made that kind of changes to put all the players in the team then I would put Manu at the SF of the Spurs too.

Parker
Gervin
Manu
Duncan
Robinson

[Josepatches_]

Something obvious but I always think about. To be a championship team or have dynasty potential, you need 3 starters that are the best in their position in the league.

Look at spurs...
Duncan, Parker, Ginobili

Lakers
magic, Kareem, Worthy


Boston, fuck boston...

In 1999,2003 or 2005 we didn't have that 3 players.Tp or Manu were far away to be the best in their position in the league.
To win a championship you need good players.To have a dynasty potential you need at least good players around the best player of the league.
(Shaq,TD,Jordan,Russell..)

[peskypesky]

Something obvious but I always think about. To be a championship team or have dynasty potential, you need 3 starters that are the best in their position in the league.

What? This is nonsense.

[peskypesky]

To win a championship you need good players.To have a dynasty potential you need at least good players around the best player of the league.
(Shaq,TD,Jordan,Russell..)

To win a championship, you almost always need a top-caliber big man (unless you have Michael Jordan). You also need a bunch of good players (at least one other All-star) and a good coach.

To be a dynasty, you need an outrageously good team with a lot of Hall of Famers, a great coach, and a lotta luck.

[DAF86]

You think Sean Elliott was better than George Gervin?

No, it's just that Sean is my second favorite Spur of all-time.

[DAF86]

You know, the only issue I had with the Spurs was putting Mike Mitchell in front of Sean. Manu I never considered. I know he's a great player, but I couldn't put him in front of the Iceman.

You could have put Ice in his original position SF.

In fact last year a newspaper had an internet poll so that the fans could select the all-time starting five of their teams.

And the team for the Spurs was: Tony, Manu, Gervin, Tim and David.

When all is said and done Manu will be at least a three times champion with this team, the all-time leader in 3pts made and attempted for the Spurs and a hall-of fame player. Add to all that that he is probably going to spend his entire NBA career in San Antonio and there's no way you can leave him out of this team's all-time five.

[JoeTait75]

You could have put Ice in his original position SF.

In fact last year a newspaper had an internet poll so that the fans could select the all-time starting five of their teams.

And the team for the Spurs was: Tony, Manu, Gervin, Tim and David.

When all is said and done Manu will be at least a three times champion with this team, the all-time leader in 3pts made and attempted for the Spurs and a hall-of fame player. Add to all that that he is probably going to spend his entire NBA career in San Antonio and there's no way you can leave him out of this team's all-time five.

Fair enough.

PG- Tony Parker
SG- Manu Ginobili
SF- George Gervin
PF- Tim Duncan
C- David Robinson

Backups

PG- Johnny Moore/Avery Johnson
SG- James Silas
SF- Mike Mitchell
PF- Sean Elliott
C- Artis Gilmore

[mogrovejo]

Good effort OP, but re: the Celtics team, there's no way Pierce would start ahead of Hondo. He'd probably beat Tommy Heinshon for the 6th man spot. Some would argue with Cowens ahead of McHale, but I don't agree at all.

[peskypesky]

Good effort OP, but re: the Celtics team, there's no way Pierce would start ahead of Hondo. He'd probably beat Tommy Heinshon for the 6th man spot. Some would argue with Cowens ahead of McHale, but I don't agree at all.

Cowens or McHale. That would be a tough choice. I'd have to flip a coin.

[peskypesky]

76ers

PG Maurice Cheeks
SG Allan Iverson
SF Dr. J
PF Charles Barkley
C Wilt Chamberlain

and sitting on the bench are the likes of Moses Malone (3-time MVP, 12-time All-Star), Hal Greer (10-time All-Star), Billy Cunningham (4-time All-star), and George McGinnis (3-time NBA All-Star, 3-time ABA all-star).

that's a fucking great team.

[JoeTait75]

Chicago

PG- Norm Van Lier
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Scottie Pippen
PF- Bob Love
C- Bill Cartwright/Clifford Ray

[mogrovejo]

Who's still missing?

Orlando Magic
PG - Penny Hardaway
SG - Tracy McGrady
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - Horace Grant
C - Shaq

Maybe Grant Hill over Hedo at the 3? Obviously Dwight belongs somewhere in here, so let's get creative and find a way of making a Howard/O'Neal combo work. In that case, you probably start Dennis Scott. If I were a coach, I would also consider Scott Skiles or Darrell Armstrong for this team.

[Obstructed_View]

76ers:

PG Maurice Cheeks
SG Allan Iverson
SF Dr. J
PF Charles Barkley
C Wilt Chamberlain

that's a fucking good team

The funny thing is, the actual '83 team with Moses and Andrew Toney would probably beat the above team in five games.

[JoeTait75]

Indiana

PG- Roger Brown
SG- Reggie Miller
SF- George McGinnis
PF- Mel Daniels
C- Rik Smits

Milwaukee

PG- Oscar Robertson
SG- Sidney Moncrief
SF- Glenn Robinson
PF- Marques Johnson
C- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

[mogrovejo]

Charlotte Bobcats

PG - Brevin Knight
SG - Raja Bell
SF - Jason Richardson
PF - Gerald Wallace
C - Emeka Okafor

A bench of Felton, Diaw, Herrmann, Mohammed.

Damn.... quite depressing.

[peskypesky]

Chicago

PG- Norm Van Lier
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Scottie Pippen
PF- Bob Love
C- Bill Cartwright/Clifford Ray

you're joking right?

PF is Dennis Rodman
C is Artis Gilmore

[samikeyp]

You could have put Ice in his original position SF.

In fact last year a newspaper had an internet poll so that the fans could select the all-time starting five of their teams.

And the team for the Spurs was: Tony, Manu, Gervin, Tim and David.

When all is said and done Manu will be at least a three times champion with this team, the all-time leader in 3pts made and attempted for the Spurs and a hall-of fame player. Add to all that that he is probably going to spend his entire NBA career in San Antonio and there's no way you can leave him out of this team's all-time five.

You could but for the majority of his career he was a SG which is probably why Joe had the lineup he did. Either way, still a hell of a group and no really wrong answer with either one. Also when all is said and done, Manu could end up as the best 6th man SA has ever had, if he is not already.

:toast

[JoeTait75]

Denver

PG- Lafayette Lever
SG- David Thompson
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF- Alex English
C- Dan Issel

[mogrovejo]

Toronto Raptors

PG - Jose Calderon (or TJ Ford, Damon Stoudamire, Alvin Williams... lots of players of similar quality here...)
SG - Vince Carter
SF - Tracy McGrady
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Antonio Davis

6th man - Doug Christie.

[samikeyp]

No, it's just that Sean is my second favorite Spur of all-time.

:toast

[JoeTait75]

you're joking right?

PF is Dennis Rodman
C is Artis Gilmore

Artis was a gross oversight, you're right about that. But I'd still put Butterbean in there over the Rodmonian.

[samikeyp]

Chicago

PG- Norm Van Lier
SG- Michael Jordan
SF- Scottie Pippen
PF- Bob Love
C- Bill Cartwright/Clifford Ray

Sad week for Bulls fans....lost Van Lier and Red Kerr.

[mogrovejo]

Grizzlies:

PG - Mike Bibby
SG - Shane Battier
SF - Shareef Abdur-Rahim
PF - Pau Gasol
C - Marc Gasol??

Yeah, maybe Rudy Gay or James Posey at the 3, Reef at the 4 and Pau plays center...

[JoeTait75]

Seattle

PG- Gary Payton
SG- Dennis Johnson
SF- Spencer Haywood
PF- Shawn Kemp
C- Jack Sikma

[peskypesky]

The funny thing is, the actual '83 team with Moses and Andrew Toney would probably beat the above team in five games.

you mean the '83 team with Moses, Dr. J, Andrew Toney and Maurice Cheeks?

[mogrovejo]

The funny thing is, the actual '83 team with Moses and Andrew Toney would probably beat the above team in five games.

Agreed.

[JoeTait75]

You could but for the majority of his career he was a SG which is probably why Joe had the lineup he did. Either way, still a hell of a group and no really wrong answer with either one. Also when all is said and done, Manu could end up as the best 6th man SA has ever had, if he is not already.

:toast

Yeah, Iceman's SF days were a little before my time. When I started watching the NBA he was in the backcourt with Johnny Moore.

[peskypesky]

Artis was a gross oversight, you're right about that. But I'd still put Butterbean in there over the Rodmonian.

glad you agree about Artis. He was my favorite player when I was a little kid. and he's just grossly overlooked...because he never got a championship, the poor bastard.

but I don't know how you can pass up Rodman. the dude was a rebounding MANIAC...led the league in rebounds for SEVEN seasons in a row....and he was a starter on FIVE Championship teams...He was a Two-time Defensive Player of the Year...and SEVEN time NBA All-Defensive First Team.

the guy used to defend Shaq one-on-one fer chrissake!

you're wrong to pass up Rodman.

[JoeTait75]

glad you agree about Artis. He was my favorite player when I was a little kid. and he's just grossly overlooked...because he never got a championship, the poor bastard.

but I don't know how you can pass up Rodman. the dude was a rebounding MANIAC...led the league in rebounds for SEVEN seasons in a row....and he was a starter on FIVE Championship teams...He was a Two-time Defensive Player of the Year...and SEVEN time NBA All-Defensive First Team.

the guy used to defend Shaq one-on-one fer chrissake!

you're wrong to pass up Rodman.

I could very well be. Butterbean got the nod because he spent all of his prime years in Chicago, while Rodman didn't.

[peskypesky]

Denver

PG- Lafayette Lever
SG- David Thompson
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF- Alex English
C- Dan Issel

Alex English was a SF I think.

I think I'd choose:

PG Fat Lever
SG David Thomson
SF Alex English
PF Kiki Vandeweghe
C Dan Issel

Bench would be quite good, with the likes of Carmelo, Antonio McDyess, Dikembe Mutumbo and Chauncey Billups.

[cobbler]

I don't understand how Kobe is at SF over Baylor considering Baylor is better career wise and Kobe isn't even a SF.

Cause its just too hard to leave West off. Kobe does play SF at times and in Baylors time it was just forward. They really didnt talk in PF SF terms so i put Baylor at PF.

[sook]

Who's still missing?

Orlando Magic
PG - Penny Hardaway
SG - Tracy McGrady
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - Horace Grant
C - Shaq

Maybe Grant Hill over Hedo at the 3? Obviously Dwight belongs somewhere in here, so let's get creative and find a way of making a Howard/O'Neal combo work. In that case, you probably start Dennis Scott. If I were a coach, I would also consider Scott Skiles or Darrell Armstrong for this team.
i think that is fairly accurate, but orlando has never had a better SF than that??!

I think T-Mac's natural position is SF and that is what he played, move Penny to the 2 and tmac to the 3, making Jameer the point :toast

[Obstructed_View]

you mean the '83 team with Moses, Dr. J, Andrew Toney and Maurice Cheeks?

How many '83 76ers teams were there? :)

[Biggems]

Fair enough.

PG- Tony Parker
SG- Manu Ginobili
SF- George Gervin
PF- Tim Duncan
C- David Robinson

Backups

PG- Johnny Moore/Avery Johnson
SG- James Silas
SF- Mike Mitchell
PF- Sean Elliott
C- Artis Gilmore

C - Robinson, Gilmore, ?
PF - Duncan, Kenon, Cummings
SF - Elliott, Bowen, Mitchell
SG - Gervin, Manu, Robertson
PG - Parker, Silas, Avery

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Cause its just too hard to leave West off.
You don't leave West off. You leave Kobe off.

[peskypesky]

How many '83 76ers teams were there? :)

I'll have to check at basketball-reference.com and get back to you.

[peskypesky]

Man, choosing a team for the Lakers is just about impossible. I can choose a PG easily, as that's gotta be Magic Johnson. After that, I'm totally flustered. Too many great SG's, too many great SF's and too many great C's. The only position they seem somewhat weak in is PF. Gasol is really good, Lamar Odom has been good, but in the past, who were the best PF's for the Lakers? Give me 3 or 4 names from the past.

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Man, choosing a team for the Lakers is just about impossible. I can choose a PG easily, as that's gotta be Magic Johnson. After that, I'm totally flustered. Too many great SG's, too many great SF's and too many great C's. The only position they seem somewhat weak in is PF. Gasol is really good, Lamar Odom has been good, but in the past, who were the best PF's for the Lakers? Give me 3 or 4 names from the past.

Karl Malone was there about the same amount of time as Gasol and his team had about the same postseason success.

[peskypesky]

Karl Malone was there about the same amount of time as Gasol and his team had about the same postseason success.

So you can't think of a great Lakers PF from the 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s either?

[cobbler]

Kurt Rambis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baseline bum]

i think that is fairly accurate, but orlando has never had a better SF than that??!

I think T-Mac's natural position is SF and that is what he played, move Penny to the 2 and tmac to the 3, making Jameer the point :toast

I'd move pre-4-free-throws Nick Anderson to the two and McGrady to the three on their all-time team. He was a hell of a player before that choke of all chokes.

[Chieflion]

Charlotte Bobcats

PG - D.J Augustin
SG - Raja Bell
SF - Jason Richardson
PF - Gerald Wallace
C - Emeka Okafor

A bench of Felton, Diaw, Herrmann, Mohammed.

Damn.... quite depressing.

Hey, how the hell could you forget their rookie point guard, who is way better than Knight ever was.

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So you can't think of a great Lakers PF from the 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s either?

:lol Yeah, basically. It's likely that the best power forward the Lakers have ever had is already on the team as the point guard.

But my point was if Gasol's going to be getting votes at this point, then maybe Malone should get some as well.

[JoeTait75]

So you can't think of a great Lakers PF from the 60s, 70s, 80s or 90s either?

Bob McAdoo, but he was past his prime by the time he got to LA.

[Agloco]

OKC Thunder:

PG- Russell Westbrook
SG- Kevin Durant
SF- Jeff Green
PF- Joe Smith
C- Nenad Kristic

:hat:hat:hat

[peskypesky]

Bob McAdoo, but he was past his prime by the time he got to LA.

yeah, McAdoo was great in his prime, but as you said, he was past that prime when he became a Laker. Same thing with Wilt. Same thing with Malone.