Lobbyist showdown..I love it...thanks Obama.

[cool hand]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/02/28/obama-tells-powerful-lobbies-bring/100days/

[cool hand]

just hope he can stay in office, he is making a lot of people mad.

[LockBeard]

slurp slurp slurp slurp

[Winehole23]

Making a bid for the advertised change. Allegedly.

It's about time.

[Winehole23]

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama challenged the nation's vested interests to a legislative duel Saturday, saying he will fight to change health care, energy and education in dramatic ways that will upset the status quo.Maverick!




"The system we have now might work for the powerful and well-connected interests that have run Washington for far too long," Obama said in his weekly radio and video address. "But I don't. I work for the American people."Amen.



Please pass the potatoes.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

LOL, he doesn't work for the American people. He's a socialist.

For over 200 years the free market has worked in this country, and now we're seeing the largest power grab in history. Obama has declared war on personal success with his policy moves so far, and we're going to reach a breaking point sooner than later.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

BTW, you Obama nutsuckers are hilarious. Obama's getting all righteous about lobbyists with these press clippings, but he's got a ton of lobbyists on staff and basically our porkulus package was written by lobbyists. It's been reported they had the contents of the whole bill prior to Congress even getting it.

Do as I say, not as I do. Welcome to the Obama Administration and corrupt Chicago politics.

[LockBeard]

Some people will just never get passed hearing words and stopping there.

This is Obama's greatest strength.

[Winehole23]

LOL, he doesn't work for the American people. He's a socialist.Coming from me Amen was sarcasm, but it was heartfelt. I wish the President worked for us.


For over 200 years the free market has worked in this country, and now we're seeing the largest power grab in history. Obama has declared war on personal success with his policy moves so farThis meme is starting to catch on.

The power grab is unprecedented, but the ground started shifting in mid September 2008. The US republic will be a subunit of our central bank, forever attached to its debt.


and we're going to reach a breaking point sooner than later.And so is this one, setting the table for bogus causality.

[Winehole23]

BTW, you Obama nutsuckers are hilarious. Obama's getting all righteous about lobbyists with these press clippings, but he's got a ton of lobbyists on staff and basically our porkulus package was written by lobbyists. It's been reported they had the contents of the whole bill prior to Congress even getting it.

Do as I say, not as I do. Welcome to the Obama Administration and corrupt Chicago politics.Rag bag and insults.This is basically what passes for principled opposition. Rhetorical rags. Sure beats working.

[Winehole23]

who passed the first bailout?The US Congress, signed by a nominal Republican.

Blame the Dems. It just feels good.

[LockBeard]

Rag bag and insults.This is basically what passes for principled opposition. Rhetorical rags. Sure beats working.

IMO, we mostly resort to rag bag insults because even if we provided real facts and data the other side would not be open minded enough to compromise because of the different ideas and beliefs that drive us towards a political alignment.

This is how it seems from a conservative trying to understand why liberals never wise up, so I am sure it goes the same for liberals trying to understand conservatives.

My only question is when the "two" sides are so polarized, why put up with each other. It is an obvious disagreement that cannot be solved.

Answer: Because the far-left liberals NEED conservatives to pay for their shit. Conservatives would love not to have to even put up or interact with the far-left.

[Winehole23]

.This is how it seems from a conservative trying to understand why liberals never wise up, so I am sure it goes the same for liberals trying to understand conservatives.At least you're coming from an open-minded place. WH23 appreciates that about you.


My only question is when the "two" sides are so polarized, why put up with each other. It is an obvious disagreement that cannot be solved.Why tolerance?


Answer: Because the far-left liberals NEED conservatives to pay for their shit. Conservatives would love not to have to even put up or interact with the far-left.Excuse me. What far left?

[baseline bum]

For over 200 years the free market has worked in this country, and now we're seeing the largest power grab in history.

How well has it worked this year?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

How well has it worked this year?

Did we survive the Great Depression and the 80s without rampant socialism?

We're still paying for that shitty New Deal, when it took until WWII to get us out of the depression.

Sadly we have a president in office now who thinks the New Deal didn't go far enough.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Rag bag and insults.This is basically what passes for principled opposition. Rhetorical rags. Sure beats working.

Gimme a fucking break. I know you're new here, but look around - the resident libs throw insults out left and right. Obama could hand control of our country over to China on Monday and the libs on here would still be erecting statues to him.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

who passed the first bailout?

Shitty government last fall shouldn't be an excuse for shittier government this spring.

[Winehole23]

Obama could hand control of our country over to China on Monday and the libs on here would still be erecting statues to him.Maybe it's the other way around.

Madame Tussaud's (http://video.aol.com/video-detail/raw-videostatue-of-obama-unveiled-in-hong-kong/144115197561699343/?icid=VIDURVNWS12), Hong Kong.

[boutons_]

loser dickless Aggie is upset at the Magik Negro, soMN must be doing everything right. :lol

[Bigzax]

as long as Obama does what he says he'll do, i'll support him.

if people in washington are pissed, i think that's a good thing. :tu

[Winehole23]

Obama could hand control of our country over to China on Monday and the libs on here would still be erecting statues to him.Why make your own statue when so many are commercially available?



http://www.jollyobama.com/

http://skirmisher.org/strange-commodities/shitty-mini-statues-of-famous-people-from-catalonia/attachment/catalonia-statues-barack-obama/

http://mcfarlaneonline.stores.yahoo.net
http://www.collectiblestoday.com/ct/product/prdid-903059001.jsp?cm_ven=Search&cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=Broad&cm_ite=obama figurines&External=Y&gclid=CODO1OH1_5gCFQGbnAodH0HNlg

http://www.thegreenhead.com/link/obama-dragon-mccain-gargoyle-statues

http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2009/01/2009-01-08-ABC-GMA-Cuomoc.jpg

Statue for Obama: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7468662.stm

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

loser dickless Aggie is upset at the Magik Negro, soMN must be doing everything right. :lol

boutons, maybe one day when you move out of mom's basement and have a job, you'll have a problem with working and having your money taken from you to pay for other people's irresponsibility.

Until then, go fuck yourself.

[clambake]

aggie being worried about having to pay more taxes is funny.

[NFGIII]

Some people will just never get passed hearing words and stopping there.

This is Obama's greatest strength.


Some have compared Obama to Reagan in that both have the ability to smooze the public. Great orators are always a concern, regardless of what party they belong to. Most fail to get beyond the emotional/political rhetoric and understand the substance.

In fact I was predicting an Obama victory a full 6 months prior to the election based solely on that factor. McCain just doesn't have the ability to grab one's attention and speak to the hearts of people. But he was slightly better then Dole, who was one of the worst at it. Damn that dude was hilarious after he was defeated when he hit the late night talk circuit. He should have started his campiagn there!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

aggie being worried about having to pay more taxes is funny.

clambake not recognizing that the costs of Obama's proposals, which will increase taxes on corporations and small businesses, will be passed onto us all (the consumers) is funny.

Oh wait, that's right. Obama's going to pay for it all by ending tax breaks for th wealthiest 2% of Americans or whatever it was. Too bad 1) you could take all their money and still not even cover a third of the tab for his socialist bullshit and 2) they'd either find elsewhere to move their money or get some creative accounting help.

Either way, the end result is the costs of it get passed on to the middle and lower classes of this country. Oh wait, the lower class is not paying any taxes, just getting handouts now from Obama (err, "tax cuts for non-tax paying folk").

So who does that leave? The middle class. You can call it class warfare, making things fair, whatever you want, but Obama's going to fuck this nation's middle class. He talks about protecting it, but his policies are going to result in an upper class and a lower class with no middle in between.

So fuck that piece of shit and any of you clueless fucks who think what he's doing is good for this country's future. It didn't work for Rome, didn't work for the USSR, didn't work for China, and it ain't going to work here.

[Winehole23]

So who does that leave? The middle class. You can call it class warfare, making things fair, whatever you want, but Obama's going to fuck this nation's middle class. He talks about protecting it, but his policies are going to result in an upper class and a lower class with no middle in between.We were already headed in that direction, but that would suck. Rebalancing equities is a bitch.

[clambake]

clambake not recognizing that the costs of Obama's proposals, which will increase taxes on corporations and small businesses, will be passed onto us all (the consumers) is funny.
the shit is already down the drain and ignorant people are crying about "proposals".


Oh wait, that's right. Obama's going to pay for it all by ending tax breaks for th wealthiest 2% of Americans or whatever it was. Too bad 1) you could take all their money and still not even cover a third of the tab for his socialist bullshit and 2) they'd either find elsewhere to move their money or get some creative accounting help.
trickle down :lol


Either way, the end result is the costs of it get passed on to the middle and lower classes of this country. Oh wait, the lower class is not paying any taxes, just getting handouts now from Obama (err, "tax cuts for non-tax paying folk").
:lol aggie making 250k a year is funny.


So who does that leave? The middle class. You can call it class warfare, making things fair, whatever you want, but Obama's going to fuck this nation's middle class. He talks about protecting it, but his policies are going to result in an upper class and a lower class with no middle in between.
some people don't know where we are now. :lol


So fuck that piece of shit and any of you clueless fucks who think what he's doing is good for this country's future. It didn't work for Rome, didn't work for the USSR, didn't work for China, and it ain't going to work here.
we've already heard from you and your kind, and look what happened.

[Blue Jew]

LOL, he doesn't work for the American people. He's a socialist.


Who cares if he is the grandson of Adolf Hitler? I need a job and medical.

[balli]

Dude, Lockbeard, IDK who you are, but you're a fucking moron. You just throw out shit left and right, with absolutely no factual support whatsoever. You spew dishonest and fucked up opinions as if they were fact, but that shit's not going to fly. I'd suggest you at least try to get a fucking clue.

Answer: Because the far-left liberals NEED conservatives to pay for their shit. Conservatives would love not to have to even put up or interact with the far-left.



If it's budget time, it's good to be a red state. And it's very good to be Mississippi.

According to an analysis by the nonpartisan Taxpayers for Common Sense, Mississippi has won the earmark contest in the omnibus budget package.

Mississippi Republican Sen. Thad Cochran led his colleagues by raking in more than $470 million in 204 earmarks. Mississippi's junior Republican, Roger Wicker, pulled in more than $390 million. The totals can't be added together because the figure includes earmarks each received solo and with others, so the same earmark could be in both senators' column. Cochran, on his own, pulled in roughly $76 million and Wicker brought home $4 million.

Cochran's $76 million ranks him sixth among solo earmarkers. (Earmarks can be requested individually, with other members of Congress or along with the president.)

Senate Democrats and Republican ate roughly the same amount from the government trough on a solo basis, although Democrats have one and half times as many members. Democratic members secured about $677 million in individual earmarks; Republicans brought home $669 million. Those solo figures, however, don't tell the entire story, because about six billion more was requested by groups of lawmakers.

For solo earmarks, nobody beat out Sen. Bob Byrd (D-W.Va.), last year's appropriations committee chairman. The defender of earmarks took home $123 million. Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) came in second, with $114 million. Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.) rounded out the top three, bringing home $86 million by himself.

Republican leader Mitch McConnell is bringing $51 million back to Kentucky and Democratic leader Harry Reid earmarked $27 million for Nevada. They ranked tenth and seventeenth, respectively.

Louisiana did well, too. Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu took in the third-most joint and solo earmarks, bringing home $332 million for local projects. Her Republican colleague, Sen. David Vitter, pulled down the fifth-most at $249 million.

The Louisianans straddled Iowa Democrat Tom Harkin, the chairman of the agriculture committee, who brought back $292 million.

Rural and small-state voters were the big winners on an absolute and on a per capita basis, even though it was big states and urban areas that have delivered Congress and the White House to Democrats. Of the top ten earmarking senators, only Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.; $77 million solo; $235 combined), represents a large state and only three of the top ten are blue states. In the top 20, only six blue states are represented.