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VI_Massive
03-02-2009, 06:20 PM
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March 2, 2009 5:18 PM
It's a theory I accept without proof.
But it's nice to have proof all the same.
Look around the League, and show me a team with great defense, and I'll show you a team with great veterans.
I don't know precisely why that is -- I suspect part of that has to do with "earning the respect of the referees."
But today, I think for the first time, there is some proof.
Kevin Pelton (of Basketball Prospectus (http://basketballprospectus.com/) fame) pored through nearly a decade of 30 teams' data, and has come up with some nice evidence showing a trend -- team defensive efficiency improves with age. There is a big and easy-to-read explanation at BlazersEdge (http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/3/2/773198/kevin-pelton-blows-minds-a).
How big is the effect? Pelton estimates about 19% of a team's defensive prowess is explainable simply by their age. Well worth reading the whole thing.
And one other finding that fell out of the analysis and is well worth noting: Remember the exciting young Bulls teams of 2004,-2005 and 2005-2006? That was a very rare case of a young team that excelled at the less sexy end of the floor.
What drives this? Who knows? Maybe everyone arrives in the league expecting to make highlight reel offensive moves, while older player realize they want to win, and focus on boring things like D. Maybe players who don't defend well don't last very long in the NBA, so there's improvement with age by natural selection, if you will. Maybe some elements of defense are secrets that take years to learn. Maybe veterans make so much money that it's worth doing just about anything to impress coaches, be irreplaceable, and extend their careers.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0302/nba_e_plot_300.jpgOne thing that might be something of a factor is that older teams get called for slightly fewer fouls. Justin Kubatko of Basketball-Reference was nice enough to quickly cobble together the graph to the right in response to my question about that issue.
On the bottom axis is a team's age, as determined by minutes played (this way it's not skewed by the injured or those who seldom play).
On the vertical axis are fouls per 48 minutes.
The points on the graph represent every NBA team from 2001-02 through 2007-08.
You can see that with age, there is a slight trend toward fewer fouls.
"The correlation between weighted team age and fouls per 48 minutes," explains Kubatko, "is -0.32. So there is a negative association between the two variables, but it's not particularly strong. An increase of one year in weighted team age would lead to a predicted decrease of 0.3 fouls per 48 minutes."
Now, why do veteran teams get called for fewer fouls? Is there some referee bias against youngsters? Are veterans just better at not breaking the rules?
I don't think we have evidence to answer that question with any kind of certainty, but it's a good topic for another day.
In the meantime, what I take away from this is some support for the long-held theory that young players who stick in the NBA will generally tend to become more effective defenders with time.



The proof behind Pop's gerontophilia........

PDXSpursFan
03-02-2009, 07:56 PM
Exeption to the rule: Los Suns :lol

GSH
03-02-2009, 09:53 PM
The guy came up with a metric to explain why Portland's defense doesn't really suck. Instead he shows how good their defense would be if they were older. Which is practically as good as playing defense, huh?

Another Blazers' "analyst" came up with this gem:
So I have to amend my earlier statement that Greg Oden's health is crucial to this team's fortunes, and say it's only crucial if the rest of the team doesn't plan on helping out on court

I love guys who claim that they are still right when their predictions turn out to be crap. This guy just had to "change his assumptions a little". So the Blazers will definitely play worse without Oden... unless they play better without Oden.

Put the whole article in the Who-Gives-A-Rat-Fuck drawer.

Dalamar_the_Dark
03-03-2009, 12:49 AM
My belief is that Veterans are Veterans cause they usually have to be pretty decent in terms of D if not they will be cut. There are very few Veterans who do not play decent to solid D.

Veterans do not need to be on highlight reels. They leave that to the athletic young guys. All they need to do is be smart on D and work the glass and they will get a decent contract from teams.