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tlongII
03-03-2009, 12:23 PM
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Portland stood pat at the trade deadline with good reason. Randy Hill says a young nucleus has the Blazers on the right path.


The drama-rama that permeates the NBA's Western Conference has several teams angling to steal the stretch-run spotlight.
In Salt Lake City, the Utah Jazz are attempting to parlay their return to relative health into a playoff seed that generates home-court advantage in Round 1. That's also the goal in Houston, where the Rockets have been rollin' without Tracy McGrady and Rafer Alston.

The doomed trade of Tyson Chandler has 'em talkin' in New Orleans, where the Hornets are hoping their 7-foot-1 center is fit enough to help the Hornets play as well as we were expecting them to play.

Jason Terry's injured wrist has been the buzz in Dallas, where owner Mark Cuban — although relatively quiet on his terms — keeps the Mavericks viable in most news cycles.

And Phoenix may lead this league in soap-opera premises, but now any seed will do as the Suns attempt a season-saving rally.

But relatively little attention is mustered in Portland, where the left knee of redshirt rookie center Greg Oden is inspiring the most national interest. The Trail Blazers, who currently are sitting on the fifth seed in a tightly bunched Western pack, are led by a radar-skimming star in Brandon Roy and are right where most of us thought they'd be.

How did they go from out of the playoffs last season to home-court contender this season? Well, most of this upward skip can be attributed to the magical variable of on-the-job experience. The Blazers simply have a couple of really good young players (power forward LaMarcus Aldridge is the other) who are getting better and a few others with the potential to be far above average.

The chronologically explained improvement has been abetted now and then by the presence of the 7-foot Oden, whose roller-coaster performance casts Portland in the role of darkhorse for this season and maybe a couple more.

Before examining the Blazers' potential Western Conference footprint, let's look at what Oden — who has missed the last seven games courtesy of a bone chip in that left knee — has accomplished. In his 46 games (39 as a starter), the one-year Ohio State wonder has averaged nine points and 7.2 rebounds over 23 minutes.

Oden also is credited with 16 double-doubles, a nice and possibly revealing statistic that is somewhat diminished when we remind you that Greg is giving Portland just 5.6 and 4.8 in the 14 games against the conference's eight other solid playoff contenders.

While we're digging into Oden, please note that the Blazers (37-22) are a salty 9-4 in the games he's missed, but a mediocre 4-4 without Greg against quality foes.

So Oden's knee, his raw footwork on offense and that sub-par lateral footwork on defense are teaming up as issues in Portland's future as a potential Finals contender.

But as their center occupies a space tucked safely between Bill Russell and Sam Bowie, the Blazers seem to be stuck in that void that separates potential and arrival.

The big test for management was to determine where they are right now, what they can become and when.

That's why general manager Kevin Pritchard was one of the most closely watched personnel sharpies during the NBA's recently expired trading-deadline deliberations. With several unsolicited advisors assisting him, Pritchard was informed the Blazers needed a third scoring option, preferably a small forward with more consistency than super-sub Travis Outlaw and much greater offensive chops than rookie Nicolas Batum.

The reported candidates included Charlotte's hard-working Gerald Wallace, highly compensated New Jersey Net Vince Carter and the accomplished Richard Jefferson of the Milwaukee Bucks. After sifting through the list of names that might go away in one of these deals and the length of a big contract coming to Portland in return, Pritchard and the Blazers decided to remain status quo.

While attempting to ride the existing roster into a better playoff position, the Blazers will go into the summer buying season armed with a new trade exception and only $50 million in committed salaries (thank you, Raef LaFrentz) for the 2009-2010 campaign.

In my opinion, Pritchard's patience should reward Portland with the greatest opportunity for long-term success. Adding one of the aforementioned players may have pushed this team into the second round, but probably not to ultimate NBA glory.

The diminishing return on one of those big contracts may have undermined the franchise when extensions are due for key players on the current rotation, which — unless a trade occurs — will return intact next season (for the record, I really whiffed by missing Roy on my list of underpaid players in a column last week).

It also was reported that coach Nate McMillan — who was dealing with an injury to Steve Blake at the time — had pre-deadline concerns about his point guards. But a quick review of the numbers indicates the Blazers are ranked second in offensive efficiency; getting the ball in the basket out of their patterned sets doesn't seem to be a problem.

Portland also checks in at 30th in possessions per 48 minutes, which suggests that instead of going nowhere fast, a slower, half-court oriented offense is allowed to flow through the playing skills of Roy. And if the point guard du jour can bring the ball into the forecourt without incident, defend the position and make open shots, point guard concerns may be overblown.

It should be noted that the league's most statistically efficient offense can be found in Los Angeles, where the Lakers punish the scoreboard with no card-carrying point guard in the starting lineup. This doesn't mean Roy is the equal of Kobe Bryant as a defense-challenging threat or that the Blazers need to run the triangle. But it does reveal that — especially as rookie Jerryd Bayless continues to evolve — the Blazers can flourish without spitting up a key rotation player for someone who fits the point guard definition on offense without being able to defend.

But going forward (in time and in the conference standings), Portland and its maturing roster must commit to a consistently stingy effort on defense. The Blazers are ranked 18th in defensive efficiency, which is last among teams currently registered as playoff-bound.

Goal-tending improvement from Oden — with rebounding and fly-swatting assistance from Aldridge — also improves the Blazers' overall versatility by allowing McMillan to play three perimeter-oriented players at the same time. This (in theory) would boost defensive pressure and allow greater spacing and dribble penetration on offense.

Tactics and player groupings can be irrelevant without leadership from a premier player, and the Blazers have one in Roy. Blazer fans eventually may rejoice that Pritchard didn't compromise future roster flexibility by attempting to swing for the fences now. Sure, the window of title opportunity doesn't stay open forever, but Portland's is barely cracked.

How far the Blazers go in the coming years depends on how Pritchard massages the cap in building around Roy.

Considering the wisdom used in acquiring Roy in the first place, I'd say the franchise is in pretty good shape.

Red Hawk #21
03-03-2009, 01:53 PM
Tlong, we don't care...

pauls931
03-03-2009, 01:57 PM
Portland gets one good win and it's nonstop tllong... I better start a thread about the Suns beating La...

monosylab1k
03-03-2009, 02:04 PM
I'm calling it right now - the Oden/Roy/Aldridge Blazers won't win any championships, they may never make it to the Finals. The Durant/Green/Westbrook Thunder is the real future of the Western Conference.

Red Hawk #21
03-03-2009, 02:11 PM
I'm calling it right now - the Oden/Roy/Aldridge Blazers won't win any championships, they may never make it to the Finals. The Durant/Green/Westbrook Thunder is the real future of the Western Conference.

I think I can agree with this, I don't know if you can just say a team like the blazers won't win any championships though.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 02:21 PM
^ Sure you can.

They could very easily develop into one of those teams like the Suns, Mavs (although we won it all in 2006), Kings, and Blazers of earlier this decade that string together a great number of regular seasons but never makes it over the hump. Their future is really dependent on Oden as well too IMO. Plus they're a little soft.

Green Westbrook and Durant IMO can become very good defenders.

Durant has "it". Roy is very good, but I don't think he has "it".

a 6'9 shooting guard with a 7'5 wingspan. Kinda a toothpick, but his offensive skillz is off the hook.

I can't reall describe what i mean by "it", but I'm sure you know :).

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 02:23 PM
There's so many good young teams in the league too really.

Memphis, Oklahoma City, Portland, Indiana, Golden State, Charlotte to some extent.

But of course there's a limited supply of championships and a limited supply of elite teams per year, the future is bright for all but doesn't guarantee titles or even elite status.

But really, the immediate future does belong to the muthafuckin King, who is on the verge of his first championship at the age of 24, and can still add elements to his game.

Iraklis
03-03-2009, 03:51 PM
I agree, I dont think the current core of Oden/Aldridge/Roy is good enought to win a championship, unless Oden surpasses current expectations (which at best are 15-12-3 for 70 games a season). But they have a lot of good peripheral talent and some draft picks they can package together and trade for superior talent in the sf and pg positions.
If only they had drafted Durant...They could trade Raef's contract, Outlaw, Rodriguez, cash and some picks for a center like Chandler or Kaman and a pg (maybe Nash/Miller?)

The following lineup would contend right now.

C - Chandler/Kaman, Pryzbilla
PF- Aldridge, Frye
SF- Durant, Webster, Batum
SG- Roy, Fernandez
PG- Nash?, Bayliss, Blake

Still, they can decide to throw some money in the summer and go after a SF like Marion or Turkoglu and a PG like Sessions.

djohn2oo8
03-03-2009, 04:01 PM
The blazers will win a championship with that core. Ghazi's just pissed because the mavs have blown every opportunity they have had. Even when they won 67 games, golden state beat the shit out of em' in the first round. Before it is even brought up, yeah the rockets have not been out of the first round in a while, but at least our owner isnt a mental midget

SpursDynasty
03-03-2009, 04:12 PM
No one takes the Blazers seriously. This team is comprised of guys that were always picked last for the team on the playground to play basketball. They are just not a threat.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 04:29 PM
The blazers will win a championship with that core. Ghazi's just pissed because the mavs have blown every opportunity they have had. Even when they won 67 games, golden state beat the shit out of em' in the first round. Before it is even brought up, yeah the rockets have not been out of the first round in a while, but at least our owner isnt a mental midget

:rolleyes, "atleast our owner isnt a mental midget?"

I think I'll take a mental midget owner and a 67 win season and trip (championship) to the Finals over perennial 1st round defeat thank you very much.

The Franchise
03-03-2009, 05:20 PM
They would be better a lot sooner if they were willing to give up some of that surplus of young talent for some veteran leadership. It's not like they will be able to keep everyone signed up anyway.

tlongII
03-03-2009, 05:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/tlongII/blazerpoll.jpg?t=1236119000

ElNono
03-03-2009, 05:47 PM
Right now, they're headed to a first round exit...
And anything over 2 years is looking way ahead and extremely difficult to predict in this league...

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 06:11 PM
Blazers can win a playoff series this year if they secure the 4 seed, especially against a team like the Hornets who are a bunch of lazy old jump shooters who don't play defense.

Mr.Bottomtooth
03-03-2009, 06:39 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/tlongII/blazerpoll.jpg?t=1236119000

It's just a poll.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 09:48 PM
Blazers can win a playoff series this year if they secure the 4 seed, especially against a team like the Hornets who are a bunch of lazy old jump shooters who don't play defense.

Sorry to burst your bubbly Ghazi, but Portland doesn't match up well with us. West always outplays Aldridge. Oden is ineffective against Chandler, and they have no answer for CP3. Portland's a nice young team, but we've done really well against them this season. Should have won the series 3-1 easily, but the team collapsed and blew a 20 point lead right after CP3 got hurt. We will beat Portland in a 7-game series. Also Denver too. Rockets and Spurs are a question mark while not so likely against LA and Utah.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 09:50 PM
OKC won't win anything with Westbrook at the point. He will take too many shots away from everyone else. Need to move him to the SG or a 6th man type and find a real PG.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Sorry to burst your bubbly Ghazi, but Portland doesn't match up well with us. West always outplays Aldridge. Oden is ineffective against Chandler, and they have no answer for CP3. Portland's a nice young team, but we've done really well against them this season. Should have won the series 3-1 easily, but the team collapsed and blew a 20 point lead right after CP3 got hurt. We will beat Portland in a 7-game series. Also Denver too. Rockets and Spurs are a question mark while not so likely against LA and Utah.


"should be"? One of the games the Hornets won was when Roy was out.

iggypop123
03-03-2009, 09:56 PM
by the time they are ready to start winning contracts for roy, alridge, etc will be and even that rich owner wont sign them all. and they still have blake as a pg not an elite guard they wanted

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 09:56 PM
"should be"? One of the games the Hornets won was when Roy was out.

Big deal. Chandler was ejected early in the 3rd quarter of that game. Even with a healthy Roy, we fare pretty well against them. They don't matchup well with us. If you think West is a soft jumpshooter, watch Aldridge play. Besides, you really think Steve Blake can stay with CP3? No chance. We probably win that series in 5 or 6.

tlongII
03-03-2009, 10:01 PM
The Hornets are done. Their chemistry is hosed after what they did to Chandler. We would take them out in 5 games.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 10:01 PM
Not if they had home court, then the Blazers would win in 5.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 10:03 PM
The Hornets are done. Their chemistry is hosed after what they did to Chandler. We would take them out in 5 games.

That's why we're 5-0 with him back in the lineup. Not an impressive 5-0. Kinda like a Big Ten 5-0, grinding out victories lately. Deep down, you know your team would struggle mightily in a 7-game series against us, especially if we have a home court. You have a nice young team and I think Roy is fantastic, but this season is not your time.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 10:04 PM
Not if they had home court, then the Blazers would win in 5.

Keep hatin. You'll just get more and more disappointed.

tlongII
03-03-2009, 10:05 PM
That's why we're 5-0 with him back in the lineup. Not an impressive 5-0. Kinda like a Big Ten 5-0, grinding out victories lately. Deep down, you know your team would struggle mightily in a 7-game series against us, especially if we have a home court. You have a nice young team and I think Roy is fantastic, but this season is not your time.

I love CP3, but your chance was last year.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 10:07 PM
Pretty much.

The Hornets had a 1 year window and blew it even though up 2-0 against the Spurs.

Even then, they had game 7 in NOLA, where SA was 0-5 on the season, but CP3 decided Jannero muthafuckin Pargo could be the hero. he was wrong.

Now, they have an old assemblage of soft ass jump shooters that are on the decline, whereas CP3 is reaching is ceiling. This is the 2nd straight year of near identical production for CP3, so we must assume he's hit the wall... whereas the rest of the roster will fade into irrelevancy and the FO is too cheap to do anything about it.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 10:14 PM
Pretty much.

The Hornets had a 1 year window and blew it even though up 2-0 against the Spurs.

Even then, they had game 7 in NOLA, where SA was 0-5 on the season, but CP3 decided Jannero muthafuckin Pargo could be the hero. he was wrong.

Now, they have an old assemblage of soft ass jump shooters that are on the decline, whereas CP3 is reaching is ceiling. This is the 2nd straight year of near identical production for CP3, so we must assume he's hit the wall... whereas the rest of the roster will fade into irrelevancy and the FO is too cheap to do anything about it.

Can't argue with the one-year window, 2-0 lead, muthafuckin Pargo, etc. You got me there.

But CP3's numbers are identical because its hard to improve on legendary seasons. Seriously, his numbers are astronomical for a PG. Insanely awesome. So he's doing everything he can.

We do have old soft jumpshooters (Peja, Posey). But West has played really well lately, Chandler is starting to return to last year's form, and Butler has been surprisingly good. In fact, an upgrade over Mo-Pete at SG. The problem is our bench. It's terrible, old, slow, etc. Scott refuses to play Hilton and Wright which would insert some athleticism. Also, Peja has really been off lately, even the games we're winning, he's being picked up by Butler's production. We're still off from last year's momentum, but not that far off.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 10:16 PM
CP3 can't get any better though, he really can't. AS far as production was concerned. It's not as if there's a gaping hole in his game.

If he did, we'd have to start mentioning him in the same breath as Jordan, at least as far as PER statistics are concerned.

And I'm pretty sure if it was the 4th quarter of a game 7 Jordan wouldn't be deferring to Jannero muthafuckin Pargo.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 10:23 PM
CP3 can't get any better though, he really can't. AS far as production was concerned. It's not as if there's a gaping hole in his game.

If he did, we'd have to start mentioning him in the same breath as Jordan, at least as far as PER statistics are concerned.


And I'm pretty sure if it was the 4th quarter of a game 7 Jordan wouldn't be deferring to Jannero muthafuckin Pargo.

I agree, CP3 really can't improve much more except for his perimeter shooting. He's improved alot already, but it remains to be seen how much more he can improve.

But CP3 isn't a scorer by trade. He's a creator on the floor. He's a decent perimeter shooter, but not a true scorer. Honestly, the whole team choked that game. Everyone. They were too afraid to execute and needed Pargo to bring them back. Pargo did that alot last season. He was a big sparkplug. Unfortunately, he missed the game tying 3 late in the 4th. I keep having visions of that play. Instead of shooting it, he could have drove to the basket and found Chandler for an easy dunk cutting the lead to one, but alas it wasn't meant to be.

Honestly, we need a wing player to replace Peja and play alongside Sual. We also need Hilton and Wright to develop fast and bring youth and athleticism to the bench. Until those things happen, we probably won't compete for a championship even though Skip Bayless believes we're good enough to beat the Lakers with this current group.

Ghazi
03-03-2009, 10:24 PM
Skip Bayless is just drinking the Posey Kool Aid.

Pelicans78
03-03-2009, 10:28 PM
Skip Bayless is just drinking the Posey Kool Aid.

I think you're right. Posey is a very good bench player and i'm hoping he will step up in the playoffs because it seems like he only plays hard against the Lakers right now. But he can only guard SFs. He doesn't seem quick enough to guard SGs. Maybe I'm wrong.

Kai
03-03-2009, 10:45 PM
If the Thunder draft Blake Griffin, then I will agree they have a better future than the Blazers. If not, then no.

Lars
03-03-2009, 11:12 PM
I don't see the Blazers doing much.

angelbelow
03-03-2009, 11:37 PM
I love CP3, but your chance was last year.

i love BROY, but your chance is not now.