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Winehole23
03-03-2009, 10:16 PM
PennyMac (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/business/04penny.html?_r=1&hp).


Its biggest deal has been with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_deposit_insurance_corp/index.html?inline=nyt-org), which it paid $43.2 million for $560 million worth of mostly delinquent residential loans left over after the failure last year of the First National Bank of Nevada. Many of these loans resemble the kind that Countrywide once offered, with interest rates that can suddenly balloon. PennyMac’s payment was the equivalent of 38 cents on the dollar, according to the full terms of the agreement.

boutons_
03-03-2009, 10:23 PM
I read today that the PennyMac people are ex-Countrywide.

Winehole23
03-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Bingo. Ain't capitalism great? :lol

boutons_
03-04-2009, 12:16 AM
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March 4, 2009


Ex-Leaders at Countrywide Start Firm to Buy Bad Loans

By ERIC LIPTON (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/eric_lipton/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

CALABASAS, Calif. — Fairly or not, Countrywide Financial (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/countrywide_financial_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) and its top executives would be on most lists of those who share blame for the nation’s economic crisis. After all, the banking behemoth made risky loans to tens of thousands of Americans, helping set off a chain of events that has the economy staggering.

So it may come as a surprise that a dozen former top Countrywide executives now stand to make millions from the home mortgage mess.

Stanford L. Kurland, Countrywide’s former president, and his team have been buying up delinquent home mortgages that the government took over from other failed banks, sometimes for pennies on the dollar. They get a piece of what they can collect.

“It has been very successful — very strong,” John Lawrence, the company’s head of loan servicing, told Mr. Kurland one recent morning in a glass-walled boardroom here at PennyMac’s spacious headquarters, opened last year in the same Los Angeles suburb where Countrywide once flourished.

“In fact, it’s off-the-charts good,” he told Mr. Kurland, who was leaning back comfortably in his leather boardroom chair, even as the financial markets in New York were plunging.

As hundreds of billions of dollars flow from Washington to jump-start the nation’s staggering banks, automakers and other industries, a new economy is emerging of businesses that hope to make money from the various government programs that make up the largest economic rescue in history.

They include big investors who are buying up failed banks taken over by the federal government and lobbyists. And there is PennyMac, led by Mr. Kurland, 56, once the soft-spoken No. 2 to Angelo R. Mozilo (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/angelo_r_mozilo/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the perpetually tanned former chief executive of Countrywide and its public face.

Mr. Kurland has raised hundreds of millions of dollars from big players like BlackRock, the investment manager, to finance his start-up. Having sold off close to $200 million in stock before leaving Countrywide, he has also put up some of his own cash.

While some critics are distressed that Mr. Kurland and his team are back in business, the executives say that PennyMac’s operations serve as a model for how the government, working with banks, can help stabilize the housing market and lead the nation out of the recession. “It is very important to the entire team here to be part of a solution,” Mr. Kurland said, standing in his office, which has views of the Santa Monica Mountains.

It is quite evident that their efforts are, in fact, helping many distressed homeowners.

“Literally, their assistance saved my family’s home,” said Robert Robinson, of Felton, Pa., whose interest rate was cut by more than half, making his mortgage affordable again.

But to some, it is disturbing to see former Countrywide executives in the industry again. “It is sort of like the arsonist who sets fire to the house and then buys up the charred remains and resells it,” said Margot Saunders, a lawyer with the National Consumer Law Center, which for years has sought to place limits on what it calls abusive lending practices by Countrywide and other companies.

More than any other major lending institution, Countrywide has become synonymous with the excesses that led to the housing bubble. The firm’s reputation has been so tarnished that Bank of America (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/bank_of_america_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org), which bought it last year at a bargain price, announced that the name and logo of Countrywide, once the biggest mortgage lender in the nation, would soon disappear.

Mr. Kurland acknowledges pushing Countrywide into the type of higher-risk loans that have since, in large numbers, gone into default. But he said that he always insisted that the loans go only to borrowers who could afford to repay them. He also said that Countrywide’s riskiest lending took place after he left the company, in late 2006, after what he said was an internal conflict with Mr. Mozilo and other executives, whom he blames for loosening loan standards.
In retrospect, Mr. Kurland said, he regrets what happened at Countrywide and in the mortgage industry nationwide, but does not believe he deserves blame. “It is horrible what transpired in the industry,” said Mr. Kurland, who has never been subject to any regulatory actions.

But lawsuits against Countrywide raise questions about Mr. Kurland’s portrayal of his role. They accuse him of being at the center of a culture shift at Countrywide that started in 2003, as the company popularized a type of loan that often came with low “teaser” interest rates and that, for some, became unaffordable when the low rate expired.

The lawsuits, including one filed by New York State’s comptroller, say Mr. Kurland was well aware of the risks, and even misled Countrywide’s investors about the precariousness of the company’s portfolio, which grew to $463 billion in loans, from $62 billion, three times faster than the market nationwide, during the final six years of his tenure.

“Kurland is seeking to capitalize on a situation that was a product of his own creation,” said Blair A. Nicholas, a lawyer representing retired Arkansas teachers who are also suing Mr. Kurland and other former Countrywide executives. “It is tragic and ironic. But then again, greed is a growth industry.”

David K. Willingham, a lawyer representing Mr. Kurland in several of these suits, said the allegations related to Mr. Kurland were without merit, and motions had been filed to seek their dismissal.

Federal banking officials — without mentioning Mr. Kurland by name — added that just because an executive worked at an institution like Countrywide did not mean he was to blame for questionable lending practices. They said that it was important to do business with experienced mortgage operators like Mr. Kurland, who know how to creatively renegotiate delinquent loans.

PennyMac, whose full legal name is the Private National Mortgage Acceptance Company, also received backing from BlackRock and Highfields Capital, a hedge fund based in Boston. It makes its money by buying loans from struggling or failed financial institutions at such a huge discount that it stands to profit enormously even if it offers to slash interest rates or make other loan modifications to entice borrowers into resuming payments.

Its biggest deal has been with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/f/federal_deposit_insurance_corp/index.html?inline=nyt-org), which it paid $43.2 million for $560 million worth of mostly delinquent residential loans left over after the failure last year of the First National Bank of Nevada. Many of these loans resemble the kind that Countrywide once offered, with interest rates that can suddenly balloon. PennyMac’s payment was the equivalent of 38 cents on the dollar, according to the full terms of the agreement.

Under the initial terms of the F.D.I.C. deal, PennyMac is entitled to keep 20 cents on every dollar it can collect, with the government receiving the rest. Eventually that will rise to 40 cents.
Phone operators for PennyMac — working in shifts — spend 15 hours a day trying to reach borrowers whose loans the company now controls. In dozens of cases, after it has control of loans, it moves to initiate foreclosure proceedings, or to urge the owners to sell the house if they do not respond to calls, are not willing to start paying or cannot afford the house. In many other cases, operators offer drastic cuts in the interest rate or other deals, which PennyMac can afford, given that it paid so little for the loans.

PennyMac hopes to achieve a profit of at least 20 percent annually, and it is actively courting other investors to build its portfolio, which now consists of $800 million in loans, to as much as $15 billion in the next 18 months, executives said. For the borrowers whose loans have ended up with PennyMac, it can translate into an extraordinary deal.
The Laverdes, of Porter Ranch, Calif., had fallen three months behind on their mortgage after sales at a furniture store owned by the family dipped in the economic crisis. Margarita Laverde and her husband were fearful that they might need to move their four children, three dogs and giant saltwater aquarium into a cramped apartment, leaving behind their dream home — a five-bedroom ranch on a suburban street overlooking the San Fernando Valley.

But a PennyMac representative instead offered to cut the interest rate on their $590,000 loan to 3 percent, from 7.25 percent, cutting their monthly payments nearly in half, Ms. Laverde said.

“I kept on asking, ‘Are you sure this is correct? Are you sure?’ ” Ms. Laverde said. Even with this reduction, PennyMac stands to make a profit of at least 50 percent, a company official said.

Ms. Laverde could not care less that executives at PennyMac used to work at Countrywide.

“What matters,” she said, “is that we know our house is secure and our credit is safe.”

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 08:10 AM
You didn't follow the link, did you boutons?

Thanks for reposting the OP, I guess.

RandomGuy
03-04-2009, 11:26 AM
I read today that the PennyMac people are ex-Countrywide.

That is what chaps my hide the most about this shit.

The people that fucking ran their goddamn companies into the ground are the same butt-fucking turds that the government is turning to in order to run the wind-down of their own mess. FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK. :ihit

(wanders away from message board mutting to self)

These people don't deserve jobs cleaning up their own crap, they deserve firing squads, and I am not entirely kidding about that.

They should really be in jail, or at least to be forced to pick tomatoes for a living.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 11:30 AM
The people that fucking ran their goddamn companies into the ground are the same butt-fucking turds that the government is turning to in order to run the wind-down of their own mess. FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK. :ihit





Change you can believe in.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 11:44 AM
Change you can believe in.Corporate reform isn't really on the table yet. Maybe it will be more opportune when we fail to save ourselves from financial collapse.

implacable44
03-04-2009, 01:30 PM
How can you fault those guys for doing this ? They saved peoples homes. Capitalism afforded them this opportunity. He left CW in 2006 when there was a mass exodus. My group does somithing similar to this project on a smaller scale. We buy notes in pools of $1 to $5mm - modify the terms to an affordable level for the customer - with plans to service the loans for a year or two as performing and then sell them in the secondary market at a profit. There is a market there - and this is how the situation should be handled -Privatley.. the private sector will work it all out if the government would just get out of the way ... (I don't agree with the FDIC backing....or sharing - they should just sell the note period.)

The Obama alternative with Step-level Mods on 5-year terms ( where many banks were doing 2 and 3-year step Mods) is far worse than this. All Obama is doing is creating a false economy within the industry -- same thing that has been going on for years. Forced - incetived refi's called mods on 5-year terms and then in 5-years with the "HOPE" that "CHANGE" will have come and people will be able to make their payments? good luck with that plan -- creating another bubble for us to deal with 5 years from now ( as this is basically another ARM / Teaser rate)... Those same people who had problems with finances before -- will have them still -- and they will expect another bail out - another rescue.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 01:40 PM
How can you fault those guys for doing this ? They saved peoples homes. Capitalism afforded them this opportunity.For that, I called it great. I wasn't really kidding. :lol


There is a market there - and this is how the situation should be handled -Privatley.. the private sector will work it all out if the government would just get out of the way ... (I don't agree with the FDIC backing....or sharing - they should just sell the note period.) Agree 100%. It doesn't speak well for the condition of real estate that the hot new market is failed mortgages and that the people selling them to us now are the same greedy bastards who sold them to us in the first place --

-- but on the whole it is encouraging that part of the real estate market is still functional, if not profitable. Yay capitalism!


The Obama alternative with Step-level Mods on 5-year terms ( where many banks were doing 2 and 3-year step Mods) is far worse than this. All Obama is doing is creating a false economy within the industry -- same thing that has been going on for years. Forced - incetived refi's called mods on 5-year terms and then in 5-years with the "HOPE" that "CHANGE" will have come and people will be able to make their payments? good luck with that plan -- creating another bubble for us to deal with 5 years from now ( as this is basically another ARM / Teaser rate)... Those same people who had problems with finances before -- will have them still -- and they will expect another bail out - another rescue.Believable. Kick the can?

101A
03-04-2009, 03:55 PM
How can you fault those guys for doing this ? They saved peoples homes. Capitalism afforded them this opportunity. He left CW in 2006 when there was a mass exodus. My group does somithing similar to this project on a smaller scale. We buy notes in pools of $1 to $5mm - modify the terms to an affordable level for the customer - with plans to service the loans for a year or two as performing and then sell them in the secondary market at a profit. There is a market there - and this is how the situation should be handled -Privatley.. the private sector will work it all out if the government would just get out of the way ... (I don't agree with the FDIC backing....or sharing - they should just sell the note period.)

The Obama alternative with Step-level Mods on 5-year terms ( where many banks were doing 2 and 3-year step Mods) is far worse than this. All Obama is doing is creating a false economy within the industry -- same thing that has been going on for years. Forced - incetived refi's called mods on 5-year terms and then in 5-years with the "HOPE" that "CHANGE" will have come and people will be able to make their payments? good luck with that plan -- creating another bubble for us to deal with 5 years from now ( as this is basically another ARM / Teaser rate)... Those same people who had problems with finances before -- will have them still -- and they will expect another bail out - another rescue.

Good post; thanks.