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LockBeard
03-04-2009, 12:31 AM
I'm sitting here watching this idiot Rachel Maddow talk about Rush while on Jay Leno. She is bitching and bitching in typical douchebag dyke character, until Leno finally says "To be fair, is he saying he wants Obama to fail or his policies to fail." Of course this liberal cheerleader says "No, he actually wants Obama to fail."

Over the past days all of these liberal douchebags on MSNBC and all the other Obama cheerleader channels have been talking about RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH. Yet not one single person that I have listened to even tells the American people what Rush really fucking said.

They are either smart enough to understand his message in the context, he makes a great point, so they ignore it and say he means something else.


Or they are too fucking stupid to put something into context.

Either way, I am fucking sick of these people. Their new messiah is doing such a shitty job they are desperately clinging onto this Rush thing way too hard.

LockBeard
03-04-2009, 12:33 AM
I seriously feel bad for the average person who doesn't educate themselves on politics daily and is left to listen to these pathetic snakes twist the truth and brainwash them.

I hope Rachel Maddow fails.

baseline bum
03-04-2009, 12:37 AM
I seriously feel bad for the average person who doesn't educate themselves on politics daily and is left to listen to these pathetic snakes twist the truth and brainwash them.

I hope Rachel Maddow fails.

http://thevoiceforschoolchoice.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/pot-and-kettle1.jpg

LockBeard
03-04-2009, 12:39 AM
Nah, I read from enough sources to know when someone is bullshitting me.

I am constantly listening to and trying to figure out what far-left liberals know that I don't. Not the control hungry politicians, but the good intentioned decent liberals.

It's so easy to see these Obama cheerleader political analysts all following orders by missing the point and lying in this matter. There can't be this many stupid people after having reached the pinnacle of their profession.

ChumpDumper
03-04-2009, 01:23 AM
Rush misquoted the Declaration of Independence and misattributed it to the Constitution.

That's what he said while accepting the award for Defender of the Constitution.

:lol

PixelPusher
03-04-2009, 01:27 AM
Rush misquoted the Declaration of Independence and misattributed it to the Constitution.

That's what he said while accepting the award for Defender of the Constitution.

:lol

^yet another drive-by liberal media type taking El Rushbo out of context.

MavTalker
03-04-2009, 01:52 AM
How does an asshat like Rush go through life with no bullets and yet this guy is dead?

http://adeli.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/john-lennon_vikram_g_fanmigo_contribution1206336832823. jpg

Jacob1983
03-04-2009, 05:05 AM
I think it's funny how so many people especially liberals and Democrats care what Rush has to say. Who honestly takes Rush serious? The guy is just a talking head.

MannyIsGod
03-04-2009, 07:11 AM
I think it's funny how so many people especially liberals and Democrats care what Rush has to say. Who honestly takes Rush serious? The guy is just a talking head.

Who takes him seriously? Every GOP politician who has gone groveling back to him.

Thats the point.

FromWayDowntown
03-04-2009, 07:58 AM
I could care less about Rush Limbaugh or what he's said or hasn't said.

Frankly, if he's hoping that Obama fails -- or even hoping that Obama's policies fail -- I think he's patently unpatriotic (after all, those who opposed certain policies of the prior Administration were giddily labeled unpatriotic by those on the right; there's precedent).

But the funny part of this entire episode has little to do with what Rush Limbaugh said or didn't say; it's the unwillingness of Republican/conservative power players to stand by their criticisms of Rush and their immediate moves to kiss Limbaugh's ring when he calls those power players out. THAT -- more than anything else -- makes it seem apparent that Rush is the leader of the GOP in some significant sense.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-04-2009, 09:35 AM
I could care less about Rush Limbaugh or what he's said or hasn't said.

Frankly, if he's hoping that Obama fails -- or even hoping that Obama's policies fail -- I think he's patently unpatriotic (after all, those who opposed certain policies of the prior Administration were giddily labeled unpatriotic by those on the right; there's precedent).

But the funny part of this entire episode has little to do with what Rush Limbaugh said or didn't say; it's the unwillingness of Republican/conservative power players to stand by their criticisms of Rush and their immediate moves to kiss Limbaugh's ring when he calls those power players out. THAT -- more than anything else -- makes it seem apparent that Rush is the leader of the GOP in some significant sense.

And from what Gibbs and Obama have had to say over the past couple of weeks, it seems apparent that the administration is scared of Rush in some significant sense, or at least incredibly thin skinned (oh, add Santelli and Cramer in as well).

But I guess that's what hope and change gets you these days - an administration more concerned about criticism it's receiving in the media for its socialist bullshit than actually leading this country out of the current economic situation.

101A
03-04-2009, 09:47 AM
I could care less about Rush Limbaugh or what he's said or hasn't said.

Frankly, if he's hoping that Obama fails -- or even hoping that Obama's policies fail -- I think he's patently unpatriotic (after all, those who opposed certain policies of the prior Administration were giddily labeled unpatriotic by those on the right; there's precedent).

But the funny part of this entire episode has little to do with what Rush Limbaugh said or didn't say; it's the unwillingness of Republican/conservative power players to stand by their criticisms of Rush and their immediate moves to kiss Limbaugh's ring when he calls those power players out. THAT -- more than anything else -- makes it seem apparent that Rush is the leader of the GOP in some significant sense.


A ship with no rudder travels which ever way the currents take it.

- Me


He's certainly appears a defacto leader - and it is hurting Republicans. Yet, he keeps it up; relishes it, throws fuel on the fire. Why? Because he could give a shit about those weak asshats, that's why. If one of them criticizes him; OF COURSE he's gonna slam that dude - people tune it for that, right? Controvercy and conflict are the BIGGEST sellers in media, after all. When that guy then cows; that's not Rush's problem; he picked up another million listeners for a few hours, and probably several hundred million more dollars. I think Dude's contract is 2nd only to Oprah's!

He's the leader, not because he specifically went out to grab the title, but because the Democrats gave it to him, and no Republican is willing to take it - either by direct claim or action. Hell, that's a major reason why the Republicans are in the boat they are in; they have had NO conservative leader since Gingrich left - they've had Bush/Cheney politics; which defined, and continues to define conservatism, but which was NOT conservative. They spent WAY too much capital and energy overseas, and at no time were they concerned with actual fiscal responsibility. They have filled the Democrats and liberals quivers with arrows - they rode out into the sunset for other people to deal with them.

But again, if ANY Republican had taken the reigns, or would take the reigns of the party - they could begin to right the ship. As it is what Republicans "are" is going to continue to be defined by Limbaugh and the triumvirate of Carville, Begala, and Emmanuel.

RandomGuy
03-04-2009, 10:02 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090304/pl_politico/19596

Gold Rush: Dems launch Operation Rushbo

Top Democrats believe they have struck political gold by depicting Rush Limbaugh as the new face of the Republican Party, a full-scale effort first hatched by some of the most familiar names in politics and now being guided in part from inside the White House.

The strategy took shape after Democrats included Limbaugh’s name in an October poll and learned their longtime tormentor was deeply unpopular with many Americans. Then the conservative talk-radio host emerged as an unapologetic critic of Barack Obama shortly before his inauguration, when even many Republicans were showering him with praise.

Soon it clicked: Democrats realized they could roll out a new GOP bogeyman for the post-Bush era by turning to an old one in Limbaugh, a polarizing figure since he rose to prominence in the 1990s.

Limbaugh is embracing the line of attack, suggesting a certain symbiosis between him and his political adversaries.

"The Administration is enabling me,” he wrote in an email to POLITICO. “They are expanding my profile, expanding my audience and expanding my influence. An ever larger number of people are now being exposed to the antidote to Obamaism: conservatism, as articulated by me. An ever larger number of people are now exposed to substantive warnings, analysis and criticism of Obama's policies and intentions, a ‘story’ I own because the [mainstream media] is largely the Obama Press Office.”

The bigger, the better, agreed Democrat James Carville. “It’s great for us, great for him, great for the press,” he said of Limbaugh. “The only people he’s not good for are the actual Republicans in Congress.”

If Limbaugh himself were to coin a phrase for it, he might call it Operation Rushbo – an idea that started out simply enough but quickly proved to be deeply resonant by a rapid succession of events, say Democrats inside and outside the West Wing.

The seeds were planted in October after Democracy Corps, the Democratic polling company run by Carville and Stanley Greenberg, included Limbaugh’s name in a survey and found that many Americans just don’t like him.

“His positives for voters under 40 was 11 percent,” Carville recalled with a degree of amazement, alluding to a question about whether voters had a positive or negative view of the talk show host.

Paul Begala, a close friend of Carville, Greenberg and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, said they found Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign.

Then came what Begala called “the tripwire.”

“I hope he fails,” Limbaugh said of Obama on his show four days before the president was sworn in. It was a time when Obama’s approval ratings were soaring, but more than that, polls showed even people who didn’t vote for him badly wanted him to succeed, coming to office at a time of economic meltdown.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee was the first to jump on the statement, sending the video to its membership to raise cash and stir a petition drive.

“We helped get the ball rolling on this because we’re looking and listening to different Republican voices around the country, and the one that was the loudest and getting the most attention was Rush Limbaugh,” explained DCCC chairman and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.)

Soon after, Americans United for Change, a liberal group, was airing Limbaugh’s statement in an ad aimed at pushing Senate Republicans to support the stimulus bill.

“It just cropped up out of how much play that comment was getting on the air,” said Brad Woodhouse, who runs the group and is about to take over as communications director at the Democratic National Committee. “When we did it and it generated so much press, it just started to snowball from there.”

But liberals quickly realized that trying to drive a wedge between congressional Republicans and Limbaugh was unlikely to work, and their better move was to paint the GOP as beholden to the talk show host.

This was driven home to them, according to one Democrat, when Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) took a shot at Limbaugh in late January only to appear on his program the next day and plead having momentarily had “foot-in-mouth disease.”

By February, Carville and Begala were pounding on Limbaugh frequently in their appearances on CNN.

Neither Democrat would say so, but a third source said the two also began pushing the idea of targeting Limbaugh in their daily phone conversations with Emanuel.

Conversations and email exchanges began taking place in and out of the White House not only between the old pals from the Clinton era but also including White House senior adviser David Axelrod, Deputy Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and Woodhouse.

The White House needed no more convincing after Limbaugh’s hour-plus performance Saturday, celebrated on the right and mocked on the left, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where he re-stated his hope Obama fails.

“He kicked this into full-gear at CPAC by reiterating it,” said a senior White House official of Limbaugh.

By Sunday morning, Emanuel elevated the strategy by bringing up the conservative talker, unprompted, on CBS’s “Face the Nation” and calling him the “the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

Even Republican National Chairman Michael Steele joined in with a surprising critique of Limbaugh as a mere “entertainer,” who is “ugly” and “incendiary.”

“He took a little match we had tossed on the leaves and poured gasoline on it,” said one Democrat of Steele.

Steele was forced into calling Limbaugh to apologize Monday, an embarrassing climb-down following the RNC chairman’s criticism of the conservative talk-show host.

But Democrats kept at it in rapid-fire succession, thrilled that Steele had validated their claim that Republicans were scared to cross Limbaugh.

Americans United for Change launched a new ad featuring Limbaugh’s CPAC appearance. A left-leaning media watchdog group began a new Limbaugh tracking homepage. Democratic National Chairman Tim Kaine tweaked Steele for his apology. Terry McAuliffe tried to inject Limbaugh into the Virginia governor’s race. The DCCC launched a new website, www.imsorryrush.com, mocking the Republicans who have had to apologize to Limbaugh.

And Gibbs served up a made-for-cable-TV quote to end his daily briefing Tuesday.

“I was a little surprised at the speed in which Mr. Steele, the head of the RNC, apologized to the head of the Republican Party,” Gibbs quipped with a grin, before striding out of the press room.

David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager last year and a member of his inner circle still, will publish an op-ed in Wednesday’s Washington Post chiding Republicans for being “paralyzed with fear of crossing their leader.”

A senior White House aide has been tasked with helping to guide the Limbaugh strategy.

Outside, Americans United for Choice, a liberal group, and the Democratic National Committee are driving the message, in close consultation with the White House.

Democrats can barely suppress their smiles these days, overjoyed at the instant-ad imagery of Limbaugh clad in Johnny Cash-black at CPAC and, more broadly, at what they see as their success in managing to further marginalize a party already on the outs.

“I want to send Rush a bottle of vitamins,” said Begala. “We need him to stay healthy and loud and proud.”

With President George W. Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney out of the White House and Tom DeLay gone from Congress, the left had been suddenly absent an unpopular right-wing figure.

Few Americans know who the congressional Republican leaders are. Even Sarah Palin is now four time zones away from Washington.

Enter Limbaugh.

It’s something of a back to the future tactic for Democrats: painting the GOP as the party of the angry white male. But unlike Newt Gingrich or other prominent Republicans, Limbaugh doesn’t have to mind his tongue.

And the liberal political apparatus is at battle stations taking note of his every comment.

Media Matters, the left-leaning media watchdog and advocacy group, began a “Limbaugh Wire” web-site Tuesday to track him. “For a long time Americans haven’t really been aware that he’s so influential,” said Eric Burns, the group’s president.

Democrats are now working hard to ensure that changes.

“He’s driving the Republican reluctance to deal with Obama, which Americans want,” said Greenberg. “He’s the policeman [keeping them in line].”

They’ll all get a fresh hook for the story after Wednesday, when a Democratic polling firm goes into the field to test, among other things, Limbaugh’s standing with the public.

All the attention only offers upside for the buzz-hungry Limbaugh, said Carville.

“The television cameras just can’t stay away from him,” Carville said Tuesday, a day when cable news played images of Limbaugh seemingly on a loop. “Our strategy depends on him keeping talking, and I think we’re going to succeed.”

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 10:05 AM
He's certainly appears a defacto leader - and it is hurting Republicans. Yet, he keeps it up; relishes it, throws fuel on the fire. Why? Because he could give a shit about those weak asshats, that's why. If one of them criticizes him; OF COURSE he's gonna slam that dude - people tune it for that, right? Controvercy and conflict are the BIGGEST sellers in media, after all. When that guy then cows; that's not Rush's problem; he picked up another million listeners for a few hours, and probably several hundred million more dollars. I think Dude's contract is 2nd only to Oprah's!

He's the leader, not because he specifically went out to grab the title, but because the Democrats gave it to him, and no Republican is willing to take it - either by direct claim or action. Hell, that's a major reason why the Republicans are in the boat they are in; they have had NO conservative leader since Gingrich left - they've had Bush/Cheney politics; which defined, and continues to define conservatism, but which was NOT conservative. They spent WAY too much capital and energy overseas, and at no time were they concerned with actual fiscal responsibility. They have filled the Democrats and liberals quivers with arrows - they rode out into the sunset for other people to deal with them.

But again, if ANY Republican had taken the reigns, or would take the reigns of the party - they could begin to right the ship. As it is what Republicans "are" is going to continue to be defined by Limbaugh and the triumvirate of Carville, Begala, and Emmanuel.I would argue that Gingrich is a big fat neoliberal pansy too, but this is a solid conservative take, warts and all.

Wish I saw more of those. Whiny partisan apologetics has mostly replaced political thought, on this board like everywhere else.

Kudos to you, 101A, for daring to operate outside the shitty dualism. .

RandomGuy
03-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Republicans are losing the war of ideas and perceptions for people under 40, apparently.

Limbaugh is the albatross around your neck, and is perched right up there with Bush and Cheney.

If new voters start going substantially Democratic, things do not look good in the long term for the GOP, and if Obama DOES manage to pull things out of the fire, or at least make it look as if he is halfway competant if things go badly, it will be even worse for the GOP in congress.

RandomGuy
03-04-2009, 10:08 AM
He's certainly appears a defacto leader - and it is hurting Republicans. Yet, he keeps it up; relishes it, throws fuel on the fire. Why? Because he could give a shit about those weak asshats, that's why. If one of them criticizes him; OF COURSE he's gonna slam that dude - people tune it for that, right? Controvercy and conflict are the BIGGEST sellers in media, after all. When that guy then cows; that's not Rush's problem; he picked up another million listeners for a few hours, and probably several hundred million more dollars. I think Dude's contract is 2nd only to Oprah's!

He's the leader, not because he specifically went out to grab the title, but because the Democrats gave it to him, and no Republican is willing to take it - either by direct claim or action. Hell, that's a major reason why the Republicans are in the boat they are in; they have had NO conservative leader since Gingrich left - they've had Bush/Cheney politics; which defined, and continues to define conservatism, but which was NOT conservative. They spent WAY too much capital and energy overseas, and at no time were they concerned with actual fiscal responsibility. They have filled the Democrats and liberals quivers with arrows - they rode out into the sunset for other people to deal with them.

But again, if ANY Republican had taken the reigns, or would take the reigns of the party - they could begin to right the ship. As it is what Republicans "are" is going to continue to be defined by Limbaugh and the triumvirate of Carville, Begala, and Emmanuel.

Heh, talk about pegging it, both the politico article, and what I just posted that sums this up fairly succinctly agree with this.

:tu

101A
03-04-2009, 10:16 AM
Republicans are losing the war of ideas and perceptions for people under 40, apparently.

Limbaugh is the albatross around your neck, and is perched right up there with Bush and Cheney.

If new voters start going substantially Democratic, things do not look good in the long term for the GOP, and if Obama DOES manage to pull things out of the fire, or at least make it look as if he is halfway competant if things go badly, it will be even worse for the GOP in congress.


Meh. People are lemmings; political winds shifts; they shift with them.

I could give a crap about the future; the present is chilling.

The younger generation has had their ideas formed with an unpopular Republican President fighting an unpopular war - then presiding over an economy in free fall. They have then seen the savior rise and promise this that and the other miracle. When they see ALL politicians are capable of screwing things up, some will swing back the other way.

Obama's plans, IMO are not going to pull us out of the fire, but he will probably always look and sound competent - although on this recent Russian/Iranian/Missile deal he came off as a neophyte.

Also, if status quo holds - and domestic politics dominate, it'll probably work for him in the time being. If we get hit, especially if we get hit hard; ALL bets are off - everything changes.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 10:31 AM
Obama's plans, IMO are not going to pull us out of the fire, but he will probably always look and sound competent - although on this recent Russian/Iranian/Missile deal he came off as a neophyte.Well he is and Russian diplomacy is no joke.

Nothing was promised in the secret letter. Effectively all Obama has done is establish a back channel on missile defense with the Russians. It's not too early for Obama to consider that, not at all, but it is a lot to put on the shoulders of his new Secretary of State while she mediates the Arab-Israeli conflict.

doobs
03-04-2009, 10:40 AM
I could care less about Rush Limbaugh or what he's said or hasn't said.

Frankly, if he's hoping that Obama fails -- or even hoping that Obama's policies fail -- I think he's patently unpatriotic (after all, those who opposed certain policies of the prior Administration were giddily labeled unpatriotic by those on the right; there's precedent).


So let me get this straight: you're adopting the right's (alleged) argument that those who disagree with the president are unpatriotic. Does that mean you agree that those who opposed the Iraq war were unpatriotic? (Your little "after all" comment reeked of butt-hurtedness, by the way.)

Is it unpatriotic to hope Obama fails politically? No, of course not. I just don't want him to enact a left-wing agenda. I want him to fail at that endeavor. I want the Democrats to lose congressional seats in 2010. I want Obama to lose reelection if he continues governing from the left. I don't know this for sure, but I bet that's what Rush meant.

cool hand
03-04-2009, 10:41 AM
^yet another drive-by liberal media type taking El Rushbo out of context.

drive-by....if you use that term are you not a lemming.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 10:48 AM
If we get hit, especially if we get hit hard; ALL bets are off - everything changes.Most of us can recall from recent experience that the catastrophe changes everything.

I'm not personally sanguine about the attempted rescue. You can hardly fault it for being attempted, but we also have to face that the attempt not just to cheat disaster (valorous and worthy) but to deny its very existence (craven, dishonest) is what led us to this point.

RandomGuy
03-04-2009, 10:54 AM
I'm not entirely sure I am comfortable with the bare-knuckle politics, but it is about the equivalent of the Pelosi-bashing that goes on for the right, so I guess we get another dose of politics as usual from both parties.

I don't entirely think that is a bad thing, though. Competition of ideas and all that.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 11:02 AM
So let me get this straight: you're adopting the right's (alleged) argument that those who disagree with the president are unpatriotic. What does FWD seem to be butthurt about, in your opinion? Do you like being called a traitor for a mere differences of opinion?


Does that mean you agree that those who opposed the Iraq war were unpatriotic? (Your little "after all" comment reeked of butt-hurtedness, by the way.)I thought it was flippancy, but I could be wrong.



Is it unpatriotic to hope Obama fails politically? No, of course not. I just don't want him to enact a left-wing agenda. I want him to fail at that endeavor. I want the Democrats to lose congressional seats in 2010. I want Obama to lose reelection if he continues governing from the left. I don't know this for sure, but I bet that's what Rush meant.Sure. The liberal cries of "traitor" are more mocking than sincere IMO, but that does not make them any less lame and unpersuasive.

It was chickenshit in 2001-9 and it still is.

doobs
03-04-2009, 11:08 AM
Pelosi is an elected official.

Anyway, if there was any doubt about Team Obama's plans regarding Limbaugh, David Plouffe has come out and said Rush is leader of the GOP:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/03/AR2009030303210.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

I really think this strategy is foolish. People on the left underestimate Limbaugh's ability to persuade through humor. A great many Americans are impressionable--in the mushy middle--and Limbaugh can reach them. An administration that targets and spars with an influential private citizen like Limbaugh will accomplish two things: (1) demeaning the President; and (2) picking a fight, at a disadvantage. (Rush has three hours a day, five days a week to make his point to millions.)

doobs
03-04-2009, 11:16 AM
What does FWD seem to be butthurt about, in your opinion? Do you like being called a traitor for a mere differences of opinion?

I thought it was flippancy, but I could be wrong.


Sure. The liberal cries of "traitor" are more mocking than sincere IMO, but that does not make them any less lame and unpersuasive.

It was chickenshit in 2001-9 and it still is.

No one ever called him a traitor, or unpatriotic. (Those are two different thing, by the way.) That's what I don't understand--this imagined narrative about those opposed to the Iraq war having being labeled traitors, or unpatriotic. If it happened, then it was wrong. But to now adopt that argument in reference to those opposed to Obama, even if in jest, yes, that's butt-hurtedness.

Anyway, there's an important distinction to observe. Hoping for the political failure of the president is different from hoping for the failure of the country. For example, although opposition to the war was not unpatriotic, hoping for American soldiers to die and for the US to lose in Iraq is unpatriotic. Once the war started, you hope for the best. There was some professor at Columbia who said something about wanting a million Mogadishus, or something. That was an unpatriotic thing to say. But hoping Bush failed, politically, in his desire to invade Iraq was not unpatriotic.

Likewise, opposing Obama politically is not unpatriotic or wrong. But you should always hope for the best, that his policies don't screw the country up.

101A
03-04-2009, 11:17 AM
Most of us can recall from recent experience that the catastrophe changes everything.

I'm not personally sanguine about the attempted rescue. You can hardly fault it for being attempted, but we also have to face that the attempt not just to cheat disaster (valorous and worthy) but to deny its very existence (craven, dishonest) is what led us to this point.


I had to read it 3 times.

Ultimately, I agree.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Rush is just doing his job. He is a conservative talk show host -- nothing more.

He'd be equally critical if it were Hillary or anyone else in the White House.



But HOW DARE he say anything negative about the messiah. Personally, I'd rather listen to Dennis Prager.

clambake
03-04-2009, 11:32 AM
constantly calling him the messiah only hurts your cause even more.

keep it up.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 11:34 AM
Anyway, if there was any doubt about Team Obama's plans regarding Limbaugh, David Plouffe has come out and said Rush is leader of the GOP:Echo chamber, Blue Team version.


(Rush has three hours a day, five days a week to make his point to millions.) Rush's high negative recognition numbers (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/http;//www.democracycorps.com/download.php?attachment=dcor102408.pdf) (Carville alert!)may also be related to his high market saturation. Rush is a polarizer, and not by driving at the gooey reasonable center IMO.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 11:41 AM
constantly calling him the messiah only hurts your cause even more.

keep it up.


that was deep

doobs
03-04-2009, 11:43 AM
Rush's high negative recognition numbers may also be related to his high market saturation. Rush is a polarizer, and not by driving at the gooey reasonable center IMO.

I guess my point is that gooey "reasonable" center is very impressionable, and variable. They swing to the right, they swing to the left, sometimes they get care about issues, sometimes they just stay at home and watch American Idol . . . they're always in play for both parties. Rush can reach a lot of these people. Or at least part of his message can reach these people.

RandomGuy
03-04-2009, 11:47 AM
constantly calling him the messiah only hurts your cause even more.

keep it up.


that was deep

"I'm really upset that my ideology isn't getting a fair shake and people aren't getting the message about how right it is, but I will continue to be sarcastic, come across mean-spirited, and obviously distort the opposing ideology in such a way as to make it obvious to young people that I am willing to lie to make my case. I will then act surprised when they don't trust me anymore."

As a liberal and Obama supporter: keep calling him the "messiah", please. It just makes it easier to make the case that you and people who believe as you do care more about scoring poltical points than, say, actuallly solving problems.

Be my guest and don't stop using that word.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 11:53 AM
I guess my point is that gooey "reasonable" center is very impressionable, and variable. They swing to the right, they swing to the left, sometimes they get care about issues, sometimes they just stay at home and watch American Idol . . . they're always in play for both parties. Rush can reach a lot of these people. Or at least part of his message can reach these people.Yes he can, but you don't sound very sanguine about it, doobs.

Are you really psyched up for Rush as your poster, gimme cap and bumper sticker guy for the next four years?

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-04-2009, 12:01 PM
The market has tanked 25% since Obama took over, and the Democratic Party and Obama Administration is worried about a talk radio host.

Hope and change you can believe in :tu

clambake
03-04-2009, 12:12 PM
The market has tanked 25% since Obama took over, and the Democratic Party and Obama Administration is worried about a talk radio host.

Hope and change you can believe in :tu

you must be exhausted.....the way you ran from your other thread.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 12:14 PM
"I'm really upset that my ideology isn't getting a fair shake and people aren't getting the message about how right it is, but I will continue to be sarcastic, come across mean-spirited, and obviously distort the opposing ideology in such a way as to make it obvious to young people that I am willing to lie to make my case. I will then act surprised when they don't trust me anymore."

As a liberal and Obama supporter: keep calling him the "messiah", please. It just makes it easier to make the case that you and people who believe as you do care more about scoring poltical points than, say, actuallly solving problems.

Be my guest and don't stop using that word.



Ok, from now on, I'll refer to him as "his Elegance".


Seriously, has anyone in world history ever been this hyped without accomplishing jack shit? All he's done is spend more money than any president in history and talk the economy into the abyss. I'm not the one pushing commemorative plates and coins and running an hour long show comparing Obama to Lincoln.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 12:18 PM
Wow. This just in.


Dems' Limbaugh Plan

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19596.html

Top Democrats believe they have struck political gold by depicting Rush Limbaugh as the new face of the Republican Party, a full-scale effort first hatched by some of the most familiar names in politics and now being guided in part from inside the White House.

The strategy took shape after Democratic strategists Stanley Greenberg and James Carville included Limbaugh’s name in an October poll and learned their longtime tormentor was deeply unpopular with many Americans, especially younger voters. Then the conservative talk-radio host emerged as an unapologetic critic of Barack Obama shortly before his inauguration, when even many Republicans were showering him with praise.

Soon it clicked: Democrats realized they could roll out a new GOP bogeyman for the post-Bush era by turning to an old one in Limbaugh, a polarizing figure since he rose to prominence in the 1990s.

Limbaugh is embracing the line of attack, suggesting a certain symbiosis between him and his political adversaries.

"The administration is enabling me,” he wrote in an e-mail to POLITICO. “They are expanding my profile, expanding my audience and expanding my influence. An ever larger number of people are now being exposed to the antidote to Obamaism: conservatism, as articulated by me. An ever larger number of people are now exposed to substantive warnings, analysis and criticism of Obama's policies and intentions, a ‘story’ I own because the [mainstream media] is largely the Obama Press Office.”

The bigger, the better, agreed Carville. “It’s great for us, great for him, great for the press,” he said of Limbaugh. “The only people he’s not good for are the actual Republicans in Congress.”

If Limbaugh himself were to coin a phrase for it, he might call it Operation Rushbo – an idea that started out simply enough but quickly proved to be deeply resonant by a rapid succession of events, say Democrats inside and outside the West Wing.

The seeds were planted in October after Democracy Corps, the Democratic polling company run by Carville and Greenberg, included Limbaugh’s name in a survey and found that many Americans just don’t like him.

“His positives for voters under 40 was 11 percent,” Carville recalled with a degree of amazement, alluding to a question about whether voters had a positive or negative view of the talk show host.

Paul Begala, a close friend of Carville, Greenberg and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, said they found Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign.

Then came what Begala called “the tripwire.”

“I hope he fails,” Limbaugh said of Obama on his show four days before the president was sworn in. It was a time when Obama’s approval ratings were soaring, but more than that, polls showed even people who didn’t vote for him badly wanted him to succeed, coming to office at a time of economic meltdown.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee was the first to jump on the statement, sending the video to its membership to raise cash and stir a petition drive.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-04-2009, 12:22 PM
you must be exhausted.....the way you ran from your other thread.

Which one was that? Sorry, some of us are working and don't have time to hit F5 all day long on the politics forum.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 12:29 PM
Rasmussen poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/just_11_of_republicans_say_limbaugh_is_their_party _s_leader): Just 11% of Republicans identify Rush Limbaugh as the leader of the GOP, based on this question:


"Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party -- he says jump and they say how high.'"via TPM (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/new-poll-on-limbaugh-its-all-in-how-you-ask-the-question-isnt-it.php).

clambake
03-04-2009, 12:30 PM
Sorry, some of us are working and don't have time to hit F5 all day long on the politics forum.

sounds like you didn't prepare very well for the future.

doobs
03-04-2009, 12:32 PM
Yes he can, but you don't sound very sanguine about it, doobs.

Are you really psyched up for Rush as your poster, gimme cap and bumper sticker guy for the next four years?

Look, I'm just talking about politics here. I think the Democrats are making a mistake by going after Rush. If the administration really does want to elevate Rush, they're playing with fire. They think, maybe, that they can straw-man the GOP and pretend like all opposition to Obama can be dismissed as directives from their "leader" Rush. But, like I said before, there's a huge dual risk in all this.

The thing is, Rush is very good at getting the stupid conservatives agitated and voting, and he can provide the gooey, unprincipled middle an alternative voice to ruling party, a counterpoint. As the budget deficit projections will likely be revised downwards, people will become upset. The stimulus package, regardless of its merit, contains obvious liberal pet projects that piss people off. In part because of Rush, the GOP is finding its voice and its strategy for reconnecting with the American people.

Regarding my own thoughts on Rush . . . who cares, really? There's so much about the Republican Party that I dislike already . . . it's sad to say, but I would prefer Rush leading the GOP to Palin.

I mean, he's an entertaining guy who's very talented. Do I listen to him? Very rarely. Do I think he's an influential person, perhaps an asset for conservatives? Sure. But I don't look to him for ideas or information.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 12:33 PM
Which one was that? Sorry, some of us are working and don't have time to hit F5 all day long on the politics forum.Touche'! :lol

word
03-04-2009, 12:35 PM
This is a bad bad mistake by Obama. He's gone after Hannity...yeah Hannity is an ass, that's not the point...the one WH reporter...Jack Tapper...Jim Cramer ....and the CNBC reporter that went off on Obama....Rick Santelli and now Limbaugh.

It's looking a lot like a Nixon type 'enemies list' that was one of the articles of Nixons impeachment:

'Conspiracy to Suppress Free Speech of named persons designated as political "enemies" of President Nixon..... for the purpose of inhibiting or preventing their exercise of First amendment rights.'

Nothing good can come from Obama doing this type of stuff. You're the president. People are going to disagree with you and say things you don't like. It's called the 1st amendment. It's in the Bill of Rights, if you'd like to read it.

Ignignokt
03-04-2009, 12:36 PM
was winehole born after nov 2008. He seems to be appalled and bewildered that opposition to the majority party is a new 21st century phenomena.

word
03-04-2009, 12:36 PM
meant to edit and hit quote...

what happened to delete anyway ?

George Gervin's Afro
03-04-2009, 12:57 PM
I'm sitting here watching this idiot Rachel Maddow talk about Rush while on Jay Leno. She is bitching and bitching in typical douchebag dyke character, until Leno finally says "To be fair, is he saying he wants Obama to fail or his policies to fail." Of course this liberal cheerleader says "No, he actually wants Obama to fail."

Over the past days all of these liberal douchebags on MSNBC and all the other Obama cheerleader channels have been talking about RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH. Yet not one single person that I have listened to even tells the American people what Rush really fucking said.

They are either smart enough to understand his message in the context, he makes a great point, so they ignore it and say he means something else.


Or they are too fucking stupid to put something into context.

Either way, I am fucking sick of these people. Their new messiah is doing such a shitty job they are desperately clinging onto this Rush thing way too hard.

So are you against taking a statement out of context? Seems to me that your heroes on talk radio make a living off of out of context statements.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 12:59 PM
I would prefer rush leading the gop to palin.Palin has her own state to lead. Was anybody else in the running? Michael Steele (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/19/steele-gop-needs-hip-hop-makeover/)? :lol

George Gervin's Afro
03-04-2009, 12:59 PM
Are conservatives against taking a statement out of context and misleading the public about it? I would love to hear the answer...

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 01:00 PM
He's gone after HannityLink please or start a new thread. Thx.

word
03-04-2009, 01:05 PM
Go fuck yourself. Thx.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 01:13 PM
No harm meant, word. i just wondered if you had backup. You didn't. No biggie.

Cry Havoc
03-04-2009, 01:14 PM
The market has tanked 25% since Obama took over, and the Democratic Party and Obama Administration is worried about a talk radio host.

Hope and change you can believe in :tu


Yes, because Bush's idea of, "I have what basically amounts to divine right to do what I please, so fuck everyone else and what they think" is SO much better for American policy.

If Obama ignored the republican party, he would be accused of being self-righteous and out for his party's own interest. Now that he actually shows he's concerned what the other side thinks of him, he's catching fire for... what, exactly? Not being polarizing enough? Not alienating enough republicans from the current government?

It's baffling to me that the republican party has got to the point where they actually think Rush is GOOD for the country. Where Rush actually has individuals coming to his defense like he's a man of the people and for the people. :wow That's the guy that once accused Michael J. Fox of over-exaggerating his Parkinson's Disease.

The GOP is a joke, as it stands, and has nothing to do with conservative ideals any longer.

word
03-04-2009, 01:15 PM
Again, go fuck yourself.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 01:17 PM
Seriously, has anyone in world history ever been this hyped without accomplishing jack shit?


After giving this more thought, I must admit that Tony Romo is a close 2nd.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 01:18 PM
The GOP is a joke, as it stands, and has nothing to do with conservative ideals any longer.My basic problem with the GOP is it has no coherent idea of what it wants to conserve, and so fails the most basic test of conservatism.

Cry Havoc
03-04-2009, 01:24 PM
My basic problem with the GOP is it has no coherent idea of what it wants to conserve, and so fails the most basic test of conservatism.

Toupees?

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 01:25 PM
My basic problem with the GOP is it has no coherent idea of what it wants to conserve, and so fails the most basic test of conservatism.


What's that quote? "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"? Or something like that.


There hasn't really been a true conservative since Ronald Reagan, who said it best in his first inaugural address: "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."


Obama is truly the polar opposite of Ronald Reagan and that's what has a lot of true conservatives worried.

baseline bum
03-04-2009, 01:28 PM
Obama is truly the polar opposite of Ronald Reagan and that's what has a lot of true conservatives worried.

Are you saying Obama doesn't like to run up deficits?

Cry Havoc
03-04-2009, 01:29 PM
What's that quote? "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"? Or something like that.


There hasn't really been a true conservative since Ronald Reagan, who said it best in his first inaugural address: "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."


Obama is truly the polar opposite of Ronald Reagan and that's what has a lot of true conservatives worried.

A true conservative would never, ever, ever support a divisive, angry, sound-byte bigot like Rush.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 01:29 PM
Obama is truly the polar opposite of Ronald Reagan and that's what has a lot of true conservatives worried.Obama also has some of the same personal strengths as Reagan -- public charisma, speaking and personability -- so that should only worry you the more. :wow

jack sommerset
03-04-2009, 01:35 PM
This is a diversion. It gets people to talk about this instead of the economy. A freaken radio head is the voice of the Republicans is sooooooooooooo stupid.

angrydude
03-04-2009, 01:41 PM
Who takes him seriously? Every GOP politician who has gone groveling back to him.

Thats the point.


Obviously they don't, otherwise they wouldn't have to grovel. They're just politicians who realize making fun of Rush makes them unpopular.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 01:44 PM
A freaken radio head is the voice of the Republicans is sooooooooooooo stupid.The voice of reason, ladies and gentlemen. :tu

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 01:46 PM
Obama also has some of the same personal strengths as Reagan -- public charisma, speaking and personability -- so that should only worry you the more. :wow

I'll give him that.

LnGrrrR
03-04-2009, 01:54 PM
Ok, from now on, I'll refer to him as "his Elegance".


Seriously, has anyone in world history ever been this hyped without accomplishing jack shit? All he's done is spend more money than any president in history and talk the economy into the abyss. I'm not the one pushing commemorative plates and coins and running an hour long show comparing Obama to Lincoln.

Being the first black president, I believe is "accomplishing jack shit".

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 02:00 PM
Touched, DarrinS.

DarrinS
03-04-2009, 02:02 PM
Being the first black president, I believe is "accomplishing jack shit".


And to think I voted for him because I thought he was more qualified.

That's just how I roll.

jack sommerset
03-04-2009, 02:06 PM
Being the first black president, I believe is "accomplishing jack shit".

Being the first black prez has nothing to do with that guy screwing up so fast.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 02:31 PM
And to think I voted for him because I thought he was more qualified.

That's just how I roll.Bravo, Darrin.

Your riposte was true. 1-1. Are you up for the rubber match?:lol

101A
03-04-2009, 02:46 PM
Rush responds (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030409/content/01125106.guest.html).


RUSH: It is on the record -- thanks to Politico.com -- since last fall, the White House, led by Rahm Emanuel, the chief of staff to Barack Obama, has been targeting me, your host, your harmless, lovable little fuzzball. Their standard operating procedure: they need a demon to distract and divert from what their agenda is. They need a demon about whom they can lie so as to persuade average Americans that they're the good guys, the benevolent good guys, and the mean SOBs are their enemies trying to stop this great young little president from doing miraculous and wonderful things.
Here is a new ad that this union bunch is running in Washington, DC, ladies and gentlemen. And, of course, it's been picked up all over the Web. You guys, if you haven't done so, you gotta go to RushLimbaugh.com. The DNCC, whatever it is, they have a questionnaire up there. It's hilarious. I have to give 'em credit. You can see it right now (http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry) at RushLimbaugh.com. It is a form letter where any Republican can send a note of apology to me. The note is an apology note to me, and you can fill in your name and the reason you're apologizing. It is funny. I had to laugh when I saw it last night. I instructed Koko, just put it up there, 'cause it's hilarious. It's as good as the old Saturday Night Live stuff back when Saturday Night Live was actually funny. But there's a new ad targeted at your lovable, harmless little fuzzball host from that union bunch. It starts today in Washington, DC, which means it's going to be all over the cable networks pretty soon.
ANNOUNCER: Who is the leader Republicans hailed as a hero last weekend? Was it Sarah Palin?
PALIN: Nope, nope, nope.
ANNOUNCER: Bobby Jindal?
JINDAL: No, no, no.
ANNOUNCER: Michael Steele?
STEELE: No, no, no.
ANNOUNCER: Mitch McConnell?
MCCONNELL: No, no, no.
ANNOUNCER: Then who? Not Rush Limbaugh?
RUSH ARCHIVE: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
ANNOUNCER: Call the Republican leadership. Tell them to just say "no" to the politics of Rush Limbaugh.
RUSH ARCHIVE: I hope he fails.
ANNOUNCER: Paid for by Americans United for Change.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/spc.gif

RUSH: That's the union bunch. Can you just see...? (laughing) "Call the Republican leadership and say no to Limbaugh." (laughing) Now, ladies and gentlemen, the Politico story today. I got an e-mail last night from the writer of the story, Jonathan Martin, who did not tell me the full details of what the story they were working on was. He did not tell me that they have discovered that there is a team inside the White House targeting me and that they've been doing this since last fall, when they went out and did some polling data and found out I've got very high negatives among certain groups. So they thought, "Well, this is the guy to demonize! Since Bush is leaving, we need somebody," and so this is being led from the White House. There is an orchestrated attack, daily drumbeat on me from the White House. The participants here are James Carville, Paul Begala and Rahm Emanuel.

But make no mistake about it. Emanuel is the leader of all of this. Carville and Begala are just trying to ride my fame into their fortune and become relevant again. Begala and Carville, don't confuse them with the power brokers that are managing this. It all Emanuel. Begala and Carville are second-rate talking heads on CNN. CNN has no audience. Rahm Emanuel is the power behind the throne -- and don't let his effeminate nature and his ballerina past mislead you on this. He may look effeminate (he was a ballerina at one time) but he has the feral instincts of a female rat defending its young. Well, take a look. When Emanuel and Carville and Begala are together (and I've seen pictures) it looks like a reunion of the Village People. (singing) Y! M! C! A! They are really the official greeters in Roswell, New Mexico, in Area 51 where Carville was born.

My point here is that these are really odious, empty, nasty people who are feasting on their own arrogance. They are power hungry. But, you know what? They've never had a serious debate over ideas. Their goal is to destroy opponents, which is what they're trying to do now. They don't want to engage opponents. Their idea of victory is the destruction of the opponent. They're not for a level playing field. They want to clear the playing field so that their ideas do not have to undergo any scrutiny. So what do they do? They leak stories to The Politico intended to create impressions about their own importance and their brilliance, when in fact they aren't even bit players on the nation's stage. This is Emanuel, and this is Obama.

But I have an idea. If these guys are so impressed with themselves, and if they are so sure of their correctness, why doesn't President Obama come on my show? We will do a one-on-one debate of ideas and policies. Now, his people in this Politico story, it's on the record. They're claiming they wanted me all along. They wanted me to be the focus of attention. So let's have the debate! I am offering President Obama to come on this program -- without staffers, without a teleprompter, without note cards -- to debate me on the issues. Let's talk about free markets versus government control. Let's talk about nationalizing health care and raising taxes on small business.

Let's talk about the New Deal versus Reaganomics. Let's talk about closing Guantanamo Bay, and let's talk about sending $900 million to Hamas. Let's talk about illegal immigration and the lawlessness on the borders. Let's talk about massive deficits and the destroying of opportunities of future generations. Let's talk about ACORN, community agitators, and the unions that represent the government employees which pour millions of dollars into your campaign, President Obama. Let's talk about your elimination of school choice for minority students in the District of Columbia. Let's talk about your efforts to further reduce domestic drilling and refining of oil. Let's talk about your stock market. By the way, Mr. President, I want to help. Yesterday you said you looked at the stock market as no different than a tracking poll that goes up and down.

There's no "up and down" here. We have a plunge. The president yesterday suggested "we're getting to the point where profits and earnings ratios are approaching that point where you want to invest." Uh, Mr. President? There is no "profits and earnings" ratio. It's "price and earnings" ratio. He's the president of the United States. He doesn't know anything about the stock market. He's admitted it before. Let's talk about it anyway. You want to maintain it's a tracking poll? I'd love to talk to you about that. Let's talk about all of these things, Mr. President. Let's go ahead and have a debate on this show. No limits. Now that your handlers are praising themselves for promoting me as the head of a political party -- they think that's a great thing -- then it should be a no-brainer for you to further advance this strategy by debating me on the issues and on the merits, and wipe me out once and for all!

Just come on this program. Let's have a little debate. You tell me how wrong I am and you can convince the rest of the Americans that don't agree with you how wrong we all are. You're a smart guy, Mr. President. You don't need these hacks to front for you. You've debated the best! You've debated Hillary Clinton. You've debated John Edwards. You've debated Joe Biden. You've debated Dennis Kucinich. You've debated the best out there. You are one of the most gifted public speakers of our age. I would think, Mr. President, you would jump at this opportunity. Don't send lightweights like Begala and Carville to do your bidding -- and forget about the ballerina, Emanuel. He's got things to do in his office. These people, compared to you, Mr. President, are rhetorical chum.

I would rather have an intelligent, open discussion with you where you lay out your philosophy and policies and I lay out mine -- and we can question each other, in a real debate. Any time here at the EIB Network studios. If you're too busy partying or flying around giving speeches and so forth, then send Vice President Biden. I'm sure he would be very capable of articulating your vision for America -- and if he won't work, send Geithner, and we can talk about the tax code. And if that won't work, go get Bob Rubin. I don't care. Send whoever you want if you can't make it. You don't need to be leaking stories to Politico like this thing that's published today. You don't need to have your allies writing op-eds and all the rest. If you can win at this, then come here and beat me at my own game, and get rid of me once and for all, and show all the people of America that I am wrong. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/spc.gif
In fact, Mr. President, you know what, I know these are tough economic times, and you're trying to convince people that you're "saving" the taxpayers money, that you're cutting spending, that you're cutting the deficit. In that vein, I, Mr. President, will send my jet, EIB One, to pick you up and bring you here and take you back to wherever you want to go. You'd love it. It's not as big and luxurious as your jet, but it's got enough seats for your Secret Service detail. But it is something to behold. I'm very proud of it, Mr. President. I worked for it. I paid for it. Taxpayers pay you for your travel. Nobody pays me for mine. I pay for it. I pay for the airplane. I pay for the travel. I pay for practically everything I do. We can talk about that, too. I could tell you what that's like.

And once you land, by the way, I have a fleet of SUVs because I have guests here all the time. I have four or five SUVs. I can send a caravan to pick you up. I'll even put you up at The Breakers. It's a five-star resort. I'll do it all on my dime. We don't want the taxpayers footing any of the bill for this -- and my jet burns a lot less fuel than your two and your C-130 to bring your limousine and SUV caravan here. In fact, you know what, Mr. President? I'll tell you what I will do, if you will do this. I will promise to order some Wagyu Kobe beef at $100 a pound, just like you serve at your cocktail parties and your Super Bowl parties. I'll get it from Allen Brothers (http://www.allenbrothers.com/rush-limbaugh-pac-assortments.html?utm_source=absteaks.com&utm_medium=Link&utm_content=RL&utm_campaign=absteaks_RL) in Chicago, since you like that. I know you like $100-per-pound beef. You serve it at the White House.

But I'll cover the cost. I will cover the cost, Mr. President, so that the taxpayers do not have to pay for it, as they did your Super Bowl party, and as they do your Wednesday afternoon cocktail party. So you have no excuses. Your flunkies are demanding this debate. Your flunkies are targeting a private citizen with an enemies list that so far has three or four names on it: Mine; Rick Santelli; Jim Cramer at CNBC; and let's not forget Joe the Plumber, who your allies in Ohio also tried to destroy. The difference is that Joe the Plumber does not have his own microphone every day. They're shutting Santelli up at CNBC. They're going to shut Cramer up pretty soon, too, but he'll go down with a fight. That isn't going to happen here, to me.

I'm calling. I'm ready. I'll do everything I can to facilitate it. You're a very courageous man, Mr. President. I am, after all, just The Last Man Standing. If you take me out, if you can wipe me out in a debate and prove to the rest of America that what I say is senseless and wrong, do you realize you will own the United States of America? You will have no opposition. You have America's media in your back pocket. It's amazing. In 1972, Richard Nixon had an enemies list, and the media was outraged by this. They were outraged. At the same time, those who weren't on it were a little jealous. But they were outraged that a president would engage in this kind of behavior toward the media. Now they go after a private citizen.

Rahm Emanuel is leading the team going after a private citizen, and the Drive-By Media applaud, get on board and help further the mission. We live in different times. So if you can wipe me out -- and, by the way, Mr. President, and Mr. Emanuel: Don't make the mistake of assuming I'm wiping myself out here in the process. I want to thank you guys for elevating me beyond the stature I already earned and achieved, because now more and more Americans have the opportunity to learn who you really are, what your ideas will really accomplish, and what damage and harm I think your policies will bring for a very, very long time to them and to this country. So I want to thank you for the opportunity. Obviously, it's a threat targeting me. I've extended the invitation. I'm looking forward to hearing back from whoever in your cabal one way or the other on accepting my offer.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 02:48 PM
The scrum recommences. Big Labor weighs in against Rush.:corn:

Cry Havoc
03-04-2009, 03:25 PM
Being the first black president, I believe is "accomplishing jack shit".

He's been in office all of what, 50 days? Did you expect him to wave a fairy wand to fix the American economy?

NO one can fix our economy. It's too badly damaged. We just have to hold on right now, and hope the people in charge don't make things worse. There's no "magic fix" to this, and no matter how educated Obama is, the coming economic fall is going to happen.

Cry Havoc
03-04-2009, 04:22 PM
http://blog.indecision2008.com/2009/03/04/jon-stewart-rush-limbaugh-is-the-very-picture-of-self-reliance-and-restraint/

Yeah. Rush is awesome. :lol

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-04-2009, 04:39 PM
Are conservatives against taking a statement out of context and misleading the public about it? I would love to hear the answer...

Where were you when liberals were doing the same? Just being a hypocrite? I would love to hear the answer.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Yes, because Bush's idea of, "I have what basically amounts to divine right to do what I please, so fuck everyone else and what they think" is SO much better for American policy.

If Obama ignored the republican party, he would be accused of being self-righteous and out for his party's own interest. Now that he actually shows he's concerned what the other side thinks of him, he's catching fire for... what, exactly? Not being polarizing enough? Not alienating enough republicans from the current government?

It's baffling to me that the republican party has got to the point where they actually think Rush is GOOD for the country. Where Rush actually has individuals coming to his defense like he's a man of the people and for the people. :wow That's the guy that once accused Michael J. Fox of over-exaggerating his Parkinson's Disease.

The GOP is a joke, as it stands, and has nothing to do with conservative ideals any longer.

Fuck man. I've been saying for a while now - Bush was a shitty president.

That shouldn't give Obama free reign to do even worse.

But that seems to be all you libs' response. And it's fucking lame.

Aggie Hoopsfan
03-04-2009, 04:41 PM
He's been in office all of what, 50 days? Did you expect him to wave a fairy wand to fix the American economy?

NO one can fix our economy. It's too badly damaged. We just have to hold on right now, and hope the people in charge don't make things worse. There's no "magic fix" to this, and no matter how educated Obama is, the coming economic fall is going to happen.

No one expects him to fix our economy in 50 days. The problem is no one expected him to further the destruction and commence class warfare in 50 days, either.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 04:42 PM
Ooh, that was mean but I did laugh.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 04:52 PM
No one expects him to fix our economy in 50 days. The problem is no one expected him to further the destruction and start to fulfill campaign promises in 50 days, either.Fixed. You didn't expect it?

Cry Havoc
03-04-2009, 04:52 PM
Fuck man. I've been saying for a while now - Bush was a shitty president.

That shouldn't give Obama free reign to do even worse.

But that seems to be all you libs' response. And it's fucking lame.

I'm not a "lib". Nice try though.

Winehole23
03-04-2009, 05:05 PM
If somebody calls you a lib, it just means they disagree with you. It's not meant analytically.

RandomGuy
03-05-2009, 10:52 AM
If somebody calls you a lib, it just means they disagree with you. It's not meant analytically.

It isn't like AHF actually bothers with such mundane things as facts.

That is for the pinko commie libs. Real men just need vitriolic partisanship. That's they way they roll.

So dreamy...

ploto
03-06-2009, 11:48 AM
Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign.

:rollin

Nbadan
03-06-2009, 07:18 PM
Just think, If a Palin/Limbaugh ticket was to win the world would likely end on Dec. 23, 2012, just like on the calendar!

Fucken Mayans!