Game BLog: Spurs @ Mavs - March 4, 2009

[dolacheck]

OMG dont touch dirk, it will be a foul

[Spursfan092120]

AND he FOULED OUT on that call?

[Spursmania]

Once again-Queen Crawford crew!

[Death In June]

Well, I've given the spurs the benefit of the doubt for the entire season. But if they go on to lose this game, I'll be genuinely worried for the first time this season. They're just not playing well at all at a time of year they're suppose to. There hasn't been a consistent improvement over the year. Maybe it's needless worrying, and everything will be fixed come playoff time.

[BeeGee]

Almost great D, Kurt.

[hitmanyr2k]

So how did Tim's lazy ass get 4 rings

Tim Duncan sure as hell didn't get rings playing like this. If a 7 footer can't get a few inches off the ground to dunk a damn ball when he's wide open there's problems. It's not like Duncan pulls this every once in awhile. He throws up weak shit ALL THE TIME.

[Spursfan092120]

Sketchy ass calls...bs.

[BeeGee]

On second look, it was great D. How was that a foul?

[Yorae]

Damn KT will soon be gone too....

[Horse]

Really though it's only one game, They got hot and we went cold. Do you think all the sudden dirk is not a pussy, C'mon we'll get em next time. mavs will always suck our problem is avoiding crawford in the playoffs.

[boutons_]

Spurs have shot a very low %age in 2nd half.

[EricB]

Dirk gets the most calls of any unagressive player I've ever seen.

Whatever happened to the agressive player gets the calls?

[Crookshanks]

Damn - I hate the games that Crawford refs! And I hate that ugly Terry.

This game is very quickly getting out of hand - did I say how much I hate the Mavs, their owner and their fans?! :bang

[Spursfan092120]

Get a STOP!

[dolacheck]

Give Dallas thier trophy, this is thier Finals

[BeeGee]

Finally, a stop.

[Yorae]

TP. But we need stops.

[Quiet Strength]

Yeah, they definitely could use him, but let's not start acting like the Spurs are invincible with Manu.

Well no team is invincible but manu in my opinion does make the spurs a way better team. What he really helps the team with are his steals late in games and his free throws. He gets to the line and he makes most of them unlike duncan and parker.

[peskypesky]

still have a chance

[Spursfan092120]

There we GO MASON!!

[Spurtacus]

Money!

Down to 4. We can do it.

[Yorae]

Mason!!!

[peskypesky]

mavs 100 spurs 96

[TampaDude]

Biiiiig Nuuuutz!!!!!

[lefty]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaze

[Spursmania]

100-96 Mavs
less than 2 minutes to go

[Quiet Strength]

Give Dallas thier trophy, this is thier Finals


:lol

[JohnnySixString]

Tim Duncan sure as hell didn't get rings playing like this. If a 7 footer can't get a few inches off the ground to dunk a damn ball when he's wide open there's problems. It's not like Duncan pulls this every once in awhile. He throws up weak shit ALL THE TIME.

This is true, but it always has been though. Why are we acting like Tim's 1" vertical is something new?

[Spursfan092120]

Now...DEFENSE!!

[MateoNeygro]

Tim Duncan is playing terribly. The main problem is these sorry ass refs who want to blow the whistle for the Mavs every fuckin play. Isn't bitch ass Joey Crawford reffin the game?? Can't say I'm suprised with the bullshit calls.

[BeeGee]

Mason has nuts... Now they gotta get another stop.

[mFFL03]

woooooooooooooooooo

[EricB]

Couple stops, drive to the basket, win it in OT.

Fuck this shit.

[boutons_]

so easy to win if you hit a few shots.

come on, destroy the assholes and all of fucking ugly sterile Dallas

[Yorae]

:ihit of course we can!!!! Come on! Defense!!!!!!!

[sprrs]

pop's dilemma-bowen is good defensively, but he's not a shooter like mason.

30 minutes for Finley shooting 2/8. You would think Bowen could get some of those minutes.

[lefty]

But.... but.........but....

Crawford will ruin any chance we have :flipoff

[peskypesky]

THIS is where we really need Manu.

[Spursfan092120]

Just take everyone else off the court and let Mason take on the Mavs by himself..lol

[Banzai]

Spurs gonna win.

[JohnnySixString]

But.... but.........but....

Crawford will ruin any chance we have :flipoff

If the Spurs don't do it to themselves first.

[ftwspursfan]

less than 2 min?

[Horse]

Cross your fingers this is when choke nitwitski usually blows it

[mFFL03]

mason's the gayest player....he's the white guy hanging out on the 3 line in a pick up game, but he's stuck in a black man's body.

[EricB]

This is where you miss Manu Ginobili, tight game, wild card on D, agressive drive to the basket guy.

Gotta have Tony and TIm fill that role.

[peskypesky]

tony says spurs like playing close games and know they can get stops in the last 2 minutes....ok...the DO IT!!!

[BeeGee]

TP's got pussy mouth. Time to shave, son.

[Spursmania]

Really though it's only one game, They got hot and we went cold. Do you think all the sudden dirk is not a pussy, C'mon we'll get em next time. mavs will always suck our problem is avoiding crawford in the playoffs.

Exactly. It;s like a broken record. I mean I don't want to make excuses like weak ass Mav and Sun fans, but if you look at the record when Crawford officiates, we loses a lot of close games.

[peskypesky]

we got the stop

[BeeGee]

Mavs for the choke, lol.

[Spursfan092120]

Defense kicking in..COME ON TONY! HIT THEM FREE THROWS!

[boutons_]

come on tony, hit both FTs with clock stoppped, go to -2

[BeeGee]

Great finish comin' up.

[Spursmania]

mavs 100-98
1:17 left

[Quiet Strength]

Come on spurs... get another stop!

[peskypesky]

spurs down 2

[Yorae]

Go tp!

[peskypesky]

One.more.stop!

[Yorae]

Defense!

[ducks]

This is where you miss Manu Ginobili, tight game, wild card on D, agressive drive to the basket guy.

Gotta have Tony and TIm fill that role.

yeah only manu can do that
no other spur can

[BeeGee]

Breakdown.

[peskypesky]

not

[lefty]

Fuck

Well played Mavs

[Yorae]

Fuck. We need a quick two.

[Spurtacus]

Man, TP is tearing it up!

[peskypesky]

parker drives for 2!

[lurker]

I'm always taken back when Josh Howard does something right in the 4th quarter.

[BeeGee]

Oooooooooh my

[hitmanyr2k]

This is true, but it always has been though. Why are we acting like Tim's 1" vertical is something new?

Duncan's 1" vertical didn't hurt him much because he used to use headfakes and footwork (something that's also missing from his game these days). These days in the post Duncan gets the ball, waits awhile, makes one lazy fuckin move and then throws up weak shit. I can't remember the last time I' saw Tim Duncan give a quick pivot or make any kind of sharp offensive movement.

[peskypesky]

Kidd for 3

[Spursfan092120]

Damn..nice shot Kidd

[mFFL03]

someone kick tony in the knees

[lefty]

Wide open 3


Sure :tu

[boutons_]

Kidd hits the dagger 3

[TampaDude]

I called it...Kidd with the dagger 3!!!

[Spurtacus]

Kidd for 3. That's game.

Screw you Cuban.

[Yorae]

Fuck...that hurts....

[peskypesky]

ouch

[EricB]

That's who you want shooting that shot.

No qualms with the defense there.

[Banzai]

oops

[Quiet Strength]

Thats why I hate when they double team.... seriously it never works for the spurs yet they do that alot.

[Death In June]

Was that marc cuban dancing like a giant douche?

[MateoNeygro]

God losing to the Mavs pisses me off sooooo bad.

[Ice009]

WHAT KIND OF FAGGOT DEFENSE IS THIS.

The game is on the line and the Spurs give up a wide open lane for a layup and then an open 3.

That is fucking putrid.

[EricB]

Fuck...that hurts....

It does?

[Ice009]

WHAT KIND OF FAGGOT DEFENSE IS THIS.

The game is on the line and the Spurs give up a wide open lane for a layup and then an open 3.

That is fucking putrid.

[Horse]

Has anyone on the fucking Spurs noticed kidd has been super-hot allnite why leave him open. Let dick shoot in the clutch and we would win

[Manu-of-steel]

fuck that 3 by kidd, that was a dagger

[Spursfan092120]

Quick shot here...

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

HAHA what the hell...did kidd just made a 3??? them mavs r on fire tonigt

[Yorae]

Not if Romaju replies!

[lefty]

That defensive sequence was retarded

[mFFL03]

oh dammit, i forgot i'm behind on tivo

[BeeGee]

Mason has big nuts........Kidd has bigger nuts with his non-shootin' ass


Actually, he's shot the 3ball well this year. That one HURT!

[EricB]

WHAT KIND OF FAGGOT DEFENSE IS THIS.

The game is on the line and the Spurs give up a wide open lane for a layup and then an open 3.

That is fucking putrid.


Never heard of "rotations" have you.

You leave the worst shooter on the floor open to get the ball out of their best shooter's hands.


Don't quite understand that do ya eh genius.

[lefty]

Was that marc cuban dancing like a giant douche?

Cuban.....BUMPS.......every Mavs fan

[EricB]

Duncan U lazy pc of shit! Get out on your man.........Pops needs to slap tim around after the game, he is picking up bonners bad D.


Yeah that Duncan guy sucks.

[Amarelooms]

God losing to the Mavs pisses me off sooooo bad.

Spurs are really not that much better than the Mavs...esp head to head :elephant

[Spursmania]

I think Kidd may have thrown in the dagger! SHit

[Yorae]

It does?

Who are you? Thanks for your gay concern.

[Capt Bringdown]

You can talk all you want about defense, but it was the long offensive drought in the 3rd that really killed us.
As it is every year that we come up short.

[boutons_]

Spurs just got outplayed and out shot

[BeeGee]

Spurs rotation out of the low post has been turrible-turrible-turrible tonight.

[TampaDude]

Last timeout...game over...

[lefty]

Hey, we even burn time outs !

Can we burn Crawford?

[JohnnySixString]

Spurs and Defense.


Two things we never see together anymore.

[Manu-of-steel]

timmy's 2nd game from injury isn't bad at all

[sprrs]

Never heard of "rotations" have you.

You leave the worst shooter on the floor open to get the ball out of their best shooter's hands.


Don't quite understand that do ya eh genius.

Kidd's been hitting the three today.

[Spursmania]

Spurs are really not that much better than the Mavs...esp head to head :elephant

Yeah-keep dreaming. You know you won't always have Crawford to help you guys.
:hat

[lefty]

Never heard of "rotations" have you.

You leave the worst shooter on the floor open to get the ball out of their best shooter's hands.


Don't quite understand that do ya eh genius.

That rotation happened because of a bad double team

[EricB]

Who are you?


Just a casual observer laughing at you ninnys.

[Spursfan092120]

Damn..now we have to foul even if we score.

[BeeGee]

Great defense on Mason...that play was for him to bomb it.

[EricB]

That rotation happened because of a bad double team

So you don't want to double Dirk Nowitzki?

interesting.

[Spursfan092120]

oh well...congrats Mavs fans...good game.

[EricB]

In this game he does........Past performance doesnt excuse lack of effort! You have to run a set shooter off the line........again no heart!!


Kill yourself.

[lefty]

So you don't want to double Dirk Nowitzki?

interesting.

No

[BeeGee]

Mavs defensive rotation > Spurs defensive rotation = difference in this game.

[024]

WTF duncan should have fouled dampier instead of bitching about the ball being out of bounds.

[lefty]

Parker 3?

Sure:tu

[mFFL03]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooo

viva barea

[Yorae]

Just a casual observer laughing at you ninnys.

You're EricBading. You're worse than a ninny. You're Josh Howard.

[EricB]

Kidd's been hitting the three today.


You keep seeing if he can.

You don't leave open terry or Nowitzki. That simple.

[01Snake]

The Mavs just won the Championship!! OMG!!! No wait, its a regular season game.

[duncan228]

Do u believe Duncan is in the best shape of his life? I have done the tire routine and the running in sand.......that is all well and good for stamina but isnt gonna make you stronger. Duncans lack of hops has to do with his lack of effort or training at improving it. He is not a toned guy either, Im sorry, with the diet and training these guys have, no excuse not to be in top shape. Again I love the guy but hes 32.........Look at shaq who we all know is 40lbs over wt, yet his moves well due to training.

I believe Duncan came into camp in the best shape he's been in for the last few seasons. Pop said it, I have no reason to doubt him.

Duncan is stronger than he looks, he's powerful on that court. His game is a finesse game, it always has been. I don't know why anyone would think he needs to start jumping now, when it's never been a big part of his game.

He had surgery on his left knee in 2000, the right knee is acting up. He's not going to start jumping now.

Duncan will rise like he always does. Pop has kept him outside more this season, hopefully it's helped protect his body a little more for the Playoffs. He'll be there when it matters.

[MateoNeygro]

GAME OVER. Jason Terry ripped us apart this game. Tim Duncan playing soft didn't help at all....

[lurker]

Yeah-keep dreaming. You know you won't always have Crawford to help you guys.
:hat
http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/images/smilies/jvb.gif

[Quiet Strength]

So you don't want to double Dirk Nowitzki?

interesting.


I would rather the spurs didn't double him. Much better having him shoot with one defender guarding him than kidd shoot with no defender on him.

[EricB]

You're EricBading. You're worse than a ninny. You're Josh Howard.


I'm an america hating dallas maverick?

[Horse]

This makes me fucking sick especially cause some douchebag started that thread about the mavs are better than the Spurs and the dumbshit probly believes it.

[Spurtacus]

5-5 in our past 10 games now?

[EricB]

I would rather the spurs didn't double him. Much better having him shoot with one defender guarding him than kidd shoot with no defender on him.


Right.

Let the best player on the other team play single coverage.

Great idea.

[alchemist]

This one is on Pop. Throws Parker out with no shooters to space the floor, next thing that happens is the Mavs take the lead and never relinquish it.

[Spursfan092120]

Oh well...we lost...with Manu we win...with Gooden we REALLY win.

[tomtom]

wow mavs just play there best against us...

[Spursmania]

Oh well,
Here come the sucky Mav fans to gloat.

[Yorae]

You keep seeing if he can.

You don't leave open terry or Nowitzki. That simple.

Wow, you're the smartest motherfucking asshole in here. You're Naismith ain't ya?

[dolacheck]

Give em the Trophy, this is the biggest win for them all year

[Quiet Strength]

Right.

Let the best player on the other team play single coverage.

Great idea.

Yeah if dirk scored his 2 would have hurt more than kidds 3... lol whatever

[Fundamental]

<<missing Ginobili right about now

[justinandimcool]

I take this with a grain of salt. No Manu as it is...Gooden will improve us...and how often will Timmy miss 15 shots? Terrible 3rd quarter, terrible final possessions, but an easy one to get over.

[Yorae]

I'm an america hating dallas maverick?

Well, you're acting like a mavs right now.

[BeeGee]

Gotta give the Mavs credit. They could've folded in the last minute/change. The shot by Kidd and the Mavs defense on Mason out of that timeout was huge.

[lefty]

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/images/smilies/jvb.gif

No Manu and you struggled to beat us.

Impressive Mavs :tu

[lurker]

This makes me fucking sick especially cause some douchebag started that thread about the mavs are better than the Spurs and the dumbshit probly believes it.
Stop taking internet trash talk so seriously.

[TampaDude]

Give em the Trophy, this is the biggest win for them all year

Dallas Mavericks...regular season champions...oh, wait...that's the Lakeshow... :lol

[BeeGee]

Oh well...we lost...with Manu we win...with Gooden we REALLY win.Is this how you comfort yourself, with the word "IF"? Hey, whatever it takes, homie.

[boutons_]

Spurs 2-2 with Mavs on the season.

Spurs 5-5 in Last10, in March

[alchemist]

<<missing Ginobili right about now
hope Argentina really appreciates the shitty metal he got them. :pctoss

[Capt Bringdown]

Credit the Mavs D in the 3rd. We had no answers and went on one of our patented 5 minute scoring droughts.
This stretch was the difference in the game IMO.

[TampaDude]

Spurs D was AWOL tonight...NFW they win a 7-game series without D. If that had been the Lakers tonight, the Spurs would've lost by 30.

[lurker]

No Manu and you struggled to beat us.

Impressive Mavs :tu
No Durant and Green, the Thunder beat us. :toast

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So much for SPAM.

Can't blame the lack of Ginobili on the pitiful defense.

The clock is ticking.

[Quiet Strength]

No Durant and Green, the Thunder beat us. :toast

:lol

[TampaDude]

Credit the Mavs D in the 3rd. We had no answers and went on one of our patented 5 minute scoring droughts.
This stretch was the difference in the game IMO.

+1 3rd quarter has been death for the Spurs this season...I don't know why, but it's happening...and Pop needs to fix that shit, pronto!

[Spursfan092120]

Is this how you comfort yourself, with the word "IF"? Hey, whatever it takes, homie.
Trust me man..I'm not comfortable at all. This game sucked. We couldn't hit a thing...but I know the Spurs...we'll turn it around.

[mexicanjunior]

I'm glad I didn't buy tickets to that bullshit game...

[EricB]

Yeah if dirk scored his 2 would have hurt more than kidds 3... lol whatever


Then people would've bitched about not getting the ball out of Dirk's hands.

Or he could've dribbled and kicked out to Terry and he hits a three.

You let the worst shooter on the team shoot the big shot.

Period.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

+1 3rd quarter has been death for the Spurs this season...I don't know why, but it's happening...and Pop needs to fix that shit, pronto!

Happened a lot in last year's Hornets series too.

[peskypesky]

This one is on Pop. Throws Parker out with no shooters to space the floor, next thing that happens is the Mavs take the lead and never relinquish it.

he also left Finley on the floor way to long....should've had Bowen on Howard a lot sooner...he also should've figured out some way to exploit the fact that Dampier and Dirk were often double-teaming Duncan.

[ducks]

duncan's d on kidd on that three sucked
duncan was garbage tonight

[Gutter92]

Is this how you comfort yourself, with the word "IF"? Hey, whatever it takes, homie.
Well, what were the Lakers excuses when they lost to us? "Our key rotation players(Farmar, etc.) were out..." but hey, whatever it takes homie.

[Spursfan092120]

Well, Houston lost too...but now Denver is only 1.5 games behind us.

[crc21209]

:lol at Sean callin out the Mav's fans saying to celebrate their championship for tonight. No biggie, we knew the Mavs were going to come out guns blazing. Pop never seems to show his entire deck of cards, I mean cmon, Fin on Dirk in the last couple mins? Pllleeeease. The Spurs will be fine, Manu is coming, and so is Gooden.

[Spursmania]

Mavs defensive rotation > Spurs defensive rotation = difference in this game.


Yeah, so I'm sure you'd rather play us first round instead of the sucky Mavs right. Who you kidding???:lmao It's one game numbnuts...not to mention no Manu...

[SouthTexasRancher]

Why the hell does Pop always play Finley against his old team? Damn Finley has his worst games against them. Then again why the hell does Pop even play the OLD bum period. He is over the hill and 3' under. One good game and then 3 bad games does not a champion make!

At least Gooden will give us some help in the paint. We had a Free Pass all night for the Mavs. Bring David Robinson back because our frontline stunk like crap tonight! But, Pop loves the old guys.

[TampaDude]

Dirk is a monster in the regular season, especially against the Spurs, but he disappears in the playoffs...Mavs will probably get 8th seed and have to face the Lakers on the road in the first round...buh bye...

[JohnnySixString]

This isn't Tim's fault. Or Parker's. Or Pop's or even Finley's. THE WHOLE FUCKING SPURS TEAM is pretty much turned into a big pile of shit. Now we can only hope they figure their problems out before the playoffs. Unless of course they keep playing this shitty style of basketball, in which case they won't have to worry about the playoffs at all.

[ducks]

pop went to duncan to much early duncan struggling pop went to tp which was smart late 4

[justinandimcool]

Timmy and Bonner's defensive rotations were awful today. Howard, Terry, and Kidd on that last play had all day to shoot.

[Mugen]

lol at cuban and terry celebrating like they just won the championship.

if im a spurs fan i'm still worried that our worst defenders have been getting exposed and that our interior D is still really shaky.

if im a mavs fan, i kill myself because my team played incredible and still almost lost to a manu less spurs team. i dont think they make it past the first round against any of the other playoffs teams.

props to them though for playing a great game.

[Spursmania]

duncan's d on kidd on that three sucked
duncan was garbage tonight


Ouch ducks-it was Duncan's second game back. That's harsh dude...:wakeup

[justinandimcool]

And I love Timmy, but he played too many minutes tonight. 39 is kind of unusual.

[Ice009]

Duncan U lazy pc of shit! Get out on your man.........Pops needs to slap tim around after the game, he is picking up bonners bad D.

How can people here call out Drew Gooden for playing bad defense. That is what gets me when I've read all threads on his signing. The Spurs have been playing defense like that almost all season.

[SpursDynasty]

Tonight's loss is not a big deal. The Mavs just got a couple of shots here, a couple of shots there....no big deal...We are 2-2 on the season series with them. The Mavs actually played like they gave a shit tonight...

[Quiet Strength]

Then people would've bitched about not getting the ball out of Dirk's hands.

Or he could've dribbled and kicked out to Terry and he hits a three.

You let the worst shooter on the team shoot the big shot.

Period.

I wouldnt have bitched about that. As long as he was being guarded even if he made it I would have been okay with that... leaving any player open is pathetic and stupid defense and the spurs are better than that... well they used to be. I dont think leaving any player wide open that is shooting a nice percentage at 3's is the smartest defense to play. But yeah whatever floats your boat man

[Hoy]

The thing that stands out from this game is how slow Tim is. He is slower than Kurt, Bonner, Oberto and Dampier. Tim was the slowest guy on both teams. Every and any Maverick just drove right by Tim when he was isolated. Layup drill.
And this is THE REASON our defense is so bad.

[FREEDOM]

His numbers are good, my problem with him is he lets guys that shouldnt even be on the floor push him around, like Bass....Dirk is a worthless post defender but Tim struggled against him, all season its been like this.

When hes on hes one, but miss a couple shots.....he starts playing soft, going timidly to the basket and starts shooting jumpers. He needs to go and be physical, want it more, show your team that you have the will to win! He has rarely done that this year thats my issue with him.

in short,Tim gets rattled easily and does not show a desire to win....

[Thompson]

Not only was it a layup line, we were getting called for letting them get layups, or for daring to get in the way. At the other end Dampier is free to shove Duncan in the waist with his forearm (this apparently isn't a foul, Duncan gets this in most games with no calls) or out right knock him down without any problems.

It's bad enough they let Joey Crawford back in the league. It's a disgrace he's ever allowed to ref any Spurs games. 2 techs for laughing, game deciding no-call on Brent Barry in the Western Conference Finals, and games like this. I can't help but wonder what wonderful things that fat hairless troll has in store for us in this year's playoffs.

Even if everything were on the up-and-up, his history makes every call (or no call) questionable. The NBA is pathetic.

[EricB]

I wouldnt have bitched about that. As long as he was being guarded even if he made it I would have been okay with that... leaving any player open is pathetic and stupid defense and the spurs are better than that... well they used to be. I dont think leaving any player wide open that is shooting a nice percentage at 3's is the smartest defense to play. But yeah whatever floats your boat man


Yeah letting a 30% shooter in Jason Kidd shoot is a horrible idea.

[Ice009]

Never heard of "rotations" have you.

You leave the worst shooter on the floor open to get the ball out of their best shooter's hands.


Don't quite understand that do ya eh genius.

Ever heard of slow rotations. You get back on your man after the rotation.

[hitmanyr2k]

Duncan is averaging 20, 10.5, 4 assists..he's carried us most of the season..he had a bad game, I criticized him..but I have no idea why some of these dudes are criticizing him for his season performance..puzzling..

Because numbers never tell the whole story. If Duncan came into this season in the best shape of his career it isn't showing. Shaq at 37 and carrying 50+ more pounds than Duncan moves faster than TD, has better hops than TD, has better footwork and more offensive moves than TD. That's a fuckin shame to me. Duncan is only 32 years old and he's the one playing like he's 37.

[EricB]

The thing that stands out from this game is how slow Tim is. He is slower than Kurt, Bonner, Oberto and Dampier. Tim was the slowest guy on both teams. Every and any Maverick just drove right by Tim when he was isolated. Layup drill.
And this is THE REASON our defense is so bad.


Would have nothing to do with rust after sitting out almost a week?

Nah...

[Quiet Strength]

Yeah letting a 30% shooter in Jason Kidd shoot is a horrible idea.


He made it... it obviously was

[loveforthegame]

It's disappointing but I'm not too concerned about it.

The Mavs played their hearts out and the Spurs struggled on both ends and still the Mavs barely won.

I don't mean to take away from the Mavs because they won but they played their A game and the Spurs didn't.

[FREEDOM]

The thing that stands out from this game is how slow Tim is. He is slower than Kurt, Bonner, Oberto and Dampier. Tim was the slowest guy on both teams. Every and any Maverick just drove right by Tim when he was isolated. Layup drill.
And this is THE REASON our defense is so bad.

Tim = slowest, which equals problems and loss..

[EricB]

Ever heard of slow rotations. You get back on your man after the rotation.


Duncan was right there with Kidd.

He preffered Kidd to hit a tough 3.

Duncan made the right move. Learn the game.

[Spursmania]

Why the hell does Pop always play Finley against his old team? Damn Finley has his worst games against them. Then again why the hell does Pop even play the OLD bum period. He is over the hill and 3' under. One good game and then 3 bad games does not a champion make!

At least Gooden will give us some help in the paint. We had a Free Pass all night for the Mavs. Bring David Robinson back because our frontline stunk like crap tonight! But, Pop loves the old guys.

Yeah, I'm not sure why Pop stuck with Finley. He wasn't shooting well and didn't seem to play such great D. Is it just us? Did anyone else think Fin sucked?

[justinandimcool]

in short,Tim gets rattled easily and does not show a desire to win....

Eh, Tim's competitiveness works a lot like Pop's. His main focus during the season is to keep improving, playing well individually, and making the team gradually better, which he does a lot (hence many wins over the years). During the playoffs, the in-game competitiveness takes front and center.

[EricB]

He made it... it obviously was

:lmao

The epitome of monday morning quarterbacking

[Spork KIller]

Yet anotehr LOSS for the pathetic and boring Spurs to a D-league team ...

These mother fuckers are way overrated!! hehehe

And prepare to die on Sunday!! assholes!

[Quiet Strength]

Yeah, I'm not sure why Pop stuck with Finley. He wasn't shooting well and didn't seem to play such great D. Is it just us? Did anyone else think Fin sucked?

Finley always sucks

[JohnnySixString]

I think they know the problems but only a shot blocker is gonna solve most of them. I think the spurs are just gonna try to outscore teams and say the hell with D........at least for this year. If you look at it with gooden we could match LAs scoring.

I hope Ian will be able to play in the post season, I think he will and pops is keeping a lid on it for now, but if not I think we have enough if Manu is healthy and we shoot well.

Has anyone heard anything about Bynum? Leggler and Rose said the lakers are going on as if hes out for the year?


Wanted to make sure we all saw your post huh? :lol

[Spork KIller]

Finley always sucks

Your whole team sucks asswipe

[Ice009]

Kill yourself.

Look at this fucking clown know as T-Park. You say you're a casual fan and don't take losses too hard, but that is at least the second time you've told someone in this thread to Kill themselves. WHAT IS THE REASON for telling someone to cause harm to themselves?

[Spork KIller]

you guys do realize that Duncan is injured, right? it's like you guys haven't watched every other game this season LOL..

Your ass is injured bitch!

[SouthTexasRancher]

Tonight's loss is not a big deal. The Mavs just got a couple of shots here, a couple of shots there....no big deal...We are 2-2 on the season series with them. The Mavs actually played like they gave a shit tonight...

Not a big deal??? We could have gone 3-1 for the season and made them believe they were not good enough to play us in the playoffs. Now they feel like world beaters and everyone saw a slow and old looking Spurs team. We are losing way too damn many games we should be winning. Tim looks slower than frozen molasses going up hill. We are showing NO defense in the paint. We only have 3-4 guys that actually contribute on any given night. We are just not coming together as a team like in prior championship years. There is something not right about this years Spurs team...like no leadership & no confidence! It is gut check time for our guys and we'll see if they can step it up or not. Beating a lowly Clippers or Wizards team is NOT championship ball.

[Thompson]

Yeah letting a 30% shooter in Jason Kidd shoot is a horrible idea.

Yahoo says his stats are 40% for this year from 3. That's almost as bad as leaving Roger Mason wide open (though of course Mason is probably more clutch).

[BeeGee]

Well, what were the Lakers excuses when they lost to us? "Our key rotation players(Farmar, etc.) were out..." but hey, whatever it takes homie.That's what you get for talkin' to fairweather Laker fans, homeboy. Any real fan of the game knows that you gotta come out and play every team despite injuries. Any real fan knows that the injury excuse is a very lame one because teams at full strength get beaten by lesser-equipped teams all the time. The Mavs won this game because of the Spurs poor rotation in the post. Dampier got the layup/dunk on Kurt and Kidd was wide open for 3 because of that poor rotation. The Mavs also played better than the Spurs defensively at the end of the game. Were it not for Parkers speed and ability to get to the rack, you'd be hard-pressed to name a possession in which the Spurs got an easy bucket. What Pop should've done is spread it out with Mason posted on the wing and let Tony drive and decide. Instead, he kept tryin' to run Mase off of the baseline and the Mavs switched nicely to ball-deny.

Ginobili or no Ginobili, the Spurs could've won this game.
Ginobili or no Ginobili, the Mavs outplayed the Spurs to earn a good win.

Injuries happen and the NBA season is a grind. Either you survive or you don't. But you do not use injuries as an excuse.

[Spursmania]

Because numbers never tell the whole story. If Duncan came into this season in the best shape of his career it isn't showing. Shaq at 37 and carrying 50+ more pounds than Duncan moves faster than TD, has better hops than TD, has better footwork and more offensive moves than TD. That's a fuckin shame to me. Duncan is only 32 years old and he's the one playing like he's 37.

Dude you're absurd...:lmao:lmao
Please look at the stats and numbers and where the Spurs are as compared to the Suns who are in 9th place right now. Just forget it...sigh...go ahead and say more stupid things...we can always use more entertainment!

[Spork KIller]

:lmao

The epitome of monday morning quarterbacking

Why is this fat ass posting with another scree name..?

Fat lips!

[TampaDude]

Yet anotehr LOSS for the pathetic and boring Spurs to a D-league team ...

These mother fuckers are way overrated!! hehehe

And prepare to die on Sunday!! assholes!

The Suns will lose big on Sunday...I guarantee it. :hat

[EricB]

Yahoo says his stats are 40% for this year from 3. That's almost as bad as leaving Roger Mason wide open (though of course Mason is probably more clutch).

Good for him.

I'd still let him shoot that fucking shot.

[JohnnySixString]

Yet anotehr LOSS for the pathetic and boring Spurs to a D-league team ...

These mother fuckers are way overrated!! hehehe

And prepare to die on Sunday!! assholes!

You talk a lot shit for an asshat folowing a team that just lost two in a row and most likely won't even make the playoffs. You sir, are troll shit.

[TampaDude]

We got both the Cavs and the Mavs right after they had frustrating losses...so we caught both teams at their most motivated...the Mavs won't make it past the first round, and we already know we can beat the Cavs in the Finals.

[Quiet Strength]

Your whole team sucks asswipe

And you think that hurts me? lol wow you're such an internet bully... hows your internet girlfriend doing?

[Quiet Strength]

Good for him.

I'd still let him shoot that fucking shot.


Yeah and you would always lose :lol

[EricB]

Right there with Kidd? Kidd had time to catch, set his feet, look at TD then release a slow soft set shot over a lazy rotating TD. TD knows thats his man and he didnt make the play. No way he gets that shot off if Tim goes all out.


No he pump fakes, drives in and gets an open shot for Howard, Dirk, or Terry.


Duncan played it perfectly.

[Thompson]

Good for him.

I'd still let him shoot that fucking shot.

:lol Why do I get the feeling I could have said he shoots 95% from 3 and you would have given me the same reply?

[EricB]

Yeah and you would always lose :lol


Sure.

Killed the Spurs in 2003 thats for su......

Oh wait...

[EricB]

:lol Why do I get the feeling I could have said he shoots 95% from 3 and you would have given me the same reply?


Why do I have the feeling you have zero clue about the other 4 players on the Mavericks on the floor at the time?

[Quiet Strength]

Sure.

Killed the Spurs in 2003 thats for su......

Oh wait...

Yeah and the spurs defense is just as good today as it was then... oh wait.. no!

[bdictjames]

IMO the team should've let Parker take over and get out of the way. Foul trouble cost us the game, as well. Bonner was effective down there.

[MarHill]

Not a big deal??? We could have gone 3-1 for the season and made them believe they were not good enough to play us in the playoffs. Now they feel like world beaters and everyone saw a slow and old looking Spurs team. We are losing way too damn many games we should be winning. Tim looks slower than frozen molasses going up hill. We are showing NO defense in the paint. We only have 3-4 guys that actually contribute on any given night. We are just not coming together as a team like in prior championship years. There is something not right about this years Spurs team...like no leadership & no confidence! It is gut check time for our guys and we'll see if they can step it up or not. Beating a lowly Clippers or Wizards team is NOT championship ball.


You are going overboard!!!

Sometimes, you have to give the other team credit. The Mavs made some jump shots tonight and the game came down to the last 2 possessions. The Spurs cut the lead to 2 and Kidd hits the 3 pointer.

Also, the Spurs were w/o Manu and they have already beaten Dallas at their gym this season.

You just tip your cap to them.

Relax....the Spurs will be alright!!

[Manufan909]

Damn,Timmy was horrible. TP and Mase weren't enough tonight. I hope Gooden can avg 7 or so boards while he's here, Bonner only got 3 in 21 minutes, whilst KT got 8 in 28 minutes. Mason, Parker, and Fin all got one more board than Bonner.

[Duncan2177]

Your ass is injured bitch!

Whats up your ass dude?

[SouthTexasRancher]

Why is this fat ass posting with another scree name..?

Fat lips!


Hey sporkieWorkie, how did your lowly Phoney Suns do against the equally lowly Miami Cold tonight?

ROTFFLMFAO!!!

[Manufan909]

You are going overboard!!!

Sometimes, you have to give the other team credit. The Mavs made some jump shots tonight and the game came down to the last 2 possessions. The Spurs cut the lead to 2 and Kidd hits the 3 pointer.

Also, the Spurs were w/o Manu and they have already beaten Dallas at their gym this season.

You just tip your cap to them.

Relax....the Spurs will be alright!!

I love how teams are never hot against the Spurs, they only beat themselves.

[hitmanyr2k]

Dude you're absurd...:lmao:lmao
Please look at the stats and numbers and where the Spurs are as compared to the Suns who are in 9th place right now. Just forget it...sigh...go ahead and say more stupid things...we can always use more entertainment!

Reading comprehension kid....learn it. I didn't compare the Spurs to the Suns simpleton. I compared a 32 year old Duncan's movements to a 37 year old Shaq's movements. And Shaq moves a hell of a lot better despite being older and carrying more weight. Tim Duncan had 19 points and 12 boards tonight and STILL looked like garbage. Like I said before, numbers don't tell the whole story.

[Thompson]

Sure.

Killed the Spurs in 2003 thats for su......

Oh wait...

In 02-03 Kidd was shooting .341 from 3.
This year he's shooting .401. Not only that, he'd been hitting them most of the night. No other Mav shoots the 3 better this year, and you're saying we should leave Kidd open for 3. You may have a point in your argument that we need to double one player or another, but your stubborn insistence that we should leave him wide open is ridiculous.

[Mugen]

He has to make his play, and hope his team mates rotate like they need to. You just cant say fuck it let him have the wide open shot when we need a stop!

Face it Tim is either injured or Lazy with no heart. The Mavs wanted it more, and Im sorry getting paid 20 mil a year, being the face of the SPURS and talking on TV about wanting to get to the finals..........then you just give up with the game on the line.

I love the Spurs but we have had too many games like this- this year and its flat out a lack of heart! We have won 4 titles with an avg offense but grind it out D. Now we have the O and we decide we are no longer gonna play good D! No excuses we lost to a bad team because we didnt want it.

lol at questioning timmy's heart because a regular season game overshadows 12 years of clutchness.

[SouthTexasRancher]

You are going overboard!!!

Sometimes, you have to give the other team credit. The Mavs made some jump shots tonight and the game came down to the last 2 possessions. The Spurs cut the lead to 2 and Kidd hits the 3 pointer.

Also, the Spurs were w/o Manu and they have already beaten Dallas at their gym this season.

You just tip your cap to them.

Relax....the Spurs will be alright!!


Sorry but, I've never been into excuses. This year's Spurs team needs to do some serious soul searching because at this stage of the season, just winning one, losing one, will not bring #5 home to the Alamo city. There is no excuse for us playing the way we've been playing since the start of the rodeo road trip. We should be winning 8 out of 10 at this stage of the season...not .500 ball. If there is something wrong with Timmy then Pop should sit his ass and get him healthy. We have way too many deadbeats like Finley, Vaughn, Udoka, Oberto, etc.

[hitmanyr2k]

I really don't think you have been watching any games..

numbers don't tell the whole story is a horrible argument..

Duncan has been great this entire season..he's more mobile than he's been in years, and it definitely shows..he was averaging 25 PPG on 50+% shooting for a while until Manu returned..he's had to carry this team on his back with our injuries..

I guarantee this is one of the few games you've seen this year..Duncan is injured..either that, or you're an idiot..I wouldn't be surprised with either answer..

Shaq doesn't even play on most back to backs..he also doesn't play D in any shape or form..he doesn't rebound well..he doesn't really use any moves anymore, he still relies heavily on his size..I have no idea what you're talking about..

basically you have no arguments, and you're an idiot..

I've watched Duncan all year homer. I watch him all the time. Duncan has NOT been mobile all year long. Sometimes he gets away with his little pussy game that he plays and some nights he doesn't. Either way his post game has been crap for the most part. Barely any footwork or post moves. It's get the ball, wait awhile, make a lazy move, throw some weak shit up and hope it goes in. His moves aren't quick, they aren't decisive. They're slow and plodding which is why he's probably been blocked more times this season than at anytime in his career.

[Ice009]

Well, Houston lost too...but now Denver is only 1.5 games behind us.

The thing is we don't have a tie breaker with anyone. We have to be 1 game ahead of all teams in the standings. We've lost almost every tie breaker and are even with the Mavs.

[Manufan909]

Bonner might be a great offensive threat for a role-player, but he negates most of it with his D. Not saying he doesn't give it his all or he's always in the wrong spot, he just doesn't have the tools to stop most of the bigs he faces as a starting C. Not that I expect alot of bigs to be able to stop guys like Dirk/Garnett/Amare, but it gets old seeing Bonner get shot over. Fuck, I wish him and Pops could trade wingspans.

And does anyone know much about Goodens man-D? Can he stay with quick guys like Amare better than the current bigs backing up Timmy? I have heard nothing but awful shit about his rotations, but I hope he at least can stay in front of his man.

[Capt Bringdown]

Another big factor was Howard's 3s in the first half. It seemed like everytime we would start to build a cushion he was right there with a 3.

Timmy and Finley had poor shooting nights and we got almost nothing from our bench. Hard to win if 2 starters are a combined 9 for 29 and the bench only chips in 7 points.

This seemed like the kind of game where we could have benefited from some youthful energy, i.e. Hill and Hairston.

[EricB]

In 02-03 Kidd was shooting .341 from 3.
This year he's shooting .401. Not only that, he'd been hitting them most of the night. No other Mav shoots the 3 better this year, and you're saying we should leave Kidd open for 3. You may have a point in your argument that we need to double one player or another, but your stubborn insistence that we should leave him wide open is ridiculous.


Right leave open Terry, Nowitzki, or Howard.

Makes sense.

Got it.

[EricB]

Another big factor was Howard's 3s in the first half. It seemed like everytime we would start to build a cushion he was right there with a 3.

Timmy and Finley had poor shooting nights and we got almost nothing from our bench. Hard to win if 2 starters are a combined 9 for 29 and the bench only chips in 7 points.

This seemed like the kind of game where we could have benefited from some youthful energy, i.e. Hill and Hairston.

Hairston and hill did jack shit when in there.

[Xylus]

Thanks for nothing.

[Manufan909]

I've watched Duncan all year homer. I watch him all the time. Duncan has NOT been mobile all year long. Sometimes he gets away with his little pussy game that he plays and some nights he doesn't. Either way his post game has been crap for the most part. Barely any footwork or post moves. It's get the ball, wait awhile, make a lazy move, throw some weak shit up and hope it goes in. His moves aren't quick, they aren't decisive. They're slow and plodding which is why he's probably been blocked more times this season than at anytime in his career.

Wow you have some weak arguements, do you really think what you said would be true, with him averaging 20.5???? How can someone who plays like you say get that? It's not like he's the tall version of D-Whistle, he earns that shit with his jay, bank shot, and vast array of post moves. It's true that he rarely goes up strong, and that I wish he would, but the player you describe would average more like 10 pts a game.

[justinandimcool]

I've watched Duncan all year homer. I watch him all the time. Duncan has NOT been mobile all year long. Sometimes he gets away with his little pussy game that he plays and some nights he doesn't. Either way his post game has been crap for the most part. Barely any footwork or post moves. It's get the ball, wait awhile, make a lazy move, throw some weak shit up and hope it goes in. His moves aren't quick, they aren't decisive. They're slow and plodding which is why he's probably been blocked more times this season than at anytime in his career.

He's played like this his whole career. A lot of his game is ugly/awkward. But he's successful at it. Tonight was an off game.

[Manufan909]

espn says with Gooden signed bonner will be used more at SF

Maybe if Pop has too many wine bottles RIGHT before a game. Bonner has nowhere near the speed to stay with almost any NBA SF in the league. I want Fin to come off the bench, but that was not what I had in mind.:bang

[MarHill]

Sorry but, I've never been into excuses. This year's Spurs team needs to do some serious soul searching because at this stage of the season, just winning one, losing one, will not bring #5 home to the Alamo city. There is no excuse for us playing the way we've been playing since the start of the rodeo road trip. We should be winning 8 out of 10 at this stage of the season...not .500 ball. If there is something wrong with Timmy then Pop should sit his ass and get him healthy. We have way too many deadbeats like Finley, Vaughn, Udoka, Oberto, etc.

There isn't any excuse making.

The Mavs are professional basketball players and they played well in their gym where the Spurs have already beaten them this season.

But you are going overboard...posting the Spurs need some soul searching.

Yes, the defense was bad tonight. However, the game came down to the last 2 possessions and Kidd hits the three and they win the game.

A good game by the Mavs.

Also, the fact this team is 40-20 and when they have missed Manu and Tony for a portion of the season and they have to incorporate Mason, Hill, and Bonner into the offense has been successful.

Please, don't get carried away like this team is a .500 team(like a lot people thought during the 1st month of the season) or the Phoenix Suns!!

Yikes!! :bang

[Mugen]

What does clutchness have to do with effort or heart. When you are the leader, you cant slack off and say well I have been clutch for 12 year and now I will take it easy. This doesnt define his career but it does define his season! He has shown a lack of effort and fear alot this season and when he does I have noticed TP starts to play the same way.

Everything starts and ends with TD thats why he gets 20 mil a year, you want another ring you gotta go play hard every play or put some one in who will. Lack of effort catches on as can be seen by our season long poor D!

not to make excuses for him but the guy is playing next to matt freaking bonner as the other big man. bonner was late on numerous rotations 2nite. even bowen was horrible with his perimeter D.

saying Timmy complained to the refs too much 2nite and that he sometimes doesn't try as hard in the regular season are valid arguments. But come playoff time, Duncan will be the last person you question about their effort and desire.

[Spursmania]

Reading comprehension kid....learn it. I didn't compare the Spurs to the Suns simpleton. I compared a 32 year old Duncan's movements to a 37 year old Shaq's movements. And Shaq moves a hell of a lot better despite being older and carrying more weight. Tim Duncan had 19 points and 12 boards tonight and STILL looked like garbage. Like I said before, numbers don't tell the whole story.


You poor soul. You're drivel is just that illogical and nonsensical drivel. A little bit of basketball knowledge is dangerous for you. I won't even glorify your idiocy, it will take too much time and frankly, it's entertaining to see your stupid comments posted here. :lmao:lmao

I guess you're right and Duncan's numbers which show he is having one of his best years along with the Spurs being in 2nd place in a very competetive conference (unlike the East) doesn't count for shit. You're right we much rather have Shaq, so we can be in 9th place fighting for a play-off spot. WAKE UP NUMBNUTTS!!:lmao:lmao

[MarHill]

What does clutchness have to do with effort or heart. When you are the leader, you cant slack off and say well I have been clutch for 12 year and now I will take it easy. This doesnt define his career but it does define his season! He has shown a lack of effort and fear alot this season and when he does I have noticed TP starts to play the same way.

Everything starts and ends with TD thats why he gets 20 mil a year, you want another ring you gotta go play hard every play or put some one in who will. Lack of effort catches on as can be seen by our season long poor D!

When Tim becomes a robot...please let me know!

Oh..I forgot he's human.

:bang

[Spursmania]

Thanks for nothing.

I know we would have liked to have won for you, but Cuban pulled the 15 minute you better win or you're fired talk and the Mavs played very well.
Sorry dude...
:depressed

[hitmanyr2k]

You poor soul. You're drivel is just that illogical and nonsensical drivel. A little bit of basketball knowledge is dangerous for you. I won't even glorify your idiocy, it will take too much time and frankly, it's entertaining to see your stupid comments posted here. :lmao:lmao

I guess you're right and Duncan's numbers which show he is having one of his best years along with the Spurs being in 2nd place in a very competetive conference (unlike the East) doesn't count for shit. You're right we much rather have Shaq, so we can be in 9th place fighting for a play-off spot. WAKE UP NUMBNUTTS!!:lmao:lmao

"Your" comprehension still needs work kid. And the juvenile smileys aren't helping. Are you a 14 year old girl or what?

[SouthTexasRancher]

There isn't any excuse making.

The Mavs are professional basketball players and they played well in their gym where the Spurs have already beaten them this season.

But you are going overboard...posting the Spurs need some soul searching.

Yes, the defense was bad tonight. However, the game came down to the last 2 possessions and Kidd hits the three and they win the game.

A good game by the Mavs.

Also, the fact this team is 40-20 and when they have missed Manu and Tony for a portion of the season and they have to incorporate Mason, Hill, and Bonner into the offense has been successful.

Please, don't get carried away like this team is a .500 team(like a lot people thought during the 1st month of the season) or the Phoenix Suns!!

Yikes!! :bang


Sorry, but I'm just not into mediocrity. With the kind of money these guys make I expect them to give 110% each and every game. When they need a breather then Pop can pull them out. I am not asking for a victory each and every night. I am asking for them to play like they care, to play hard and generally give a damn and they are just not showing that lately. This is not looking like a championship year when you compare the rolls we got on in previous championship years. Maybe that fag Cuban needs to come light a fire in our guys ass because Pop sure ain't doing it.

[Spursmania]

Your whole team sucks asswipe

As compared to your awesome team that lost again tonight, and isn't even in 8th place?? Good luck making the playing offs...:lmao

[Spursmania]

Wow you have some weak arguements, do you really think what you said would be true, with him averaging 20.5???? How can someone who plays like you say get that? It's not like he's the tall version of D-Whistle, he earns that shit with his jay, bank shot, and vast array of post moves. It's true that he rarely goes up strong, and that I wish he would, but the player you describe would average more like 10 pts a game.

The guys an ass living in a delusional hate Tim Duncan world.

[Manufan909]

I hope Houston and Denver lose a couple games so they get off the Spurs' ass.

EDIT: Meant Portland instead of Houston. At least Denver is on a losing streak, maybe they can keep it up. And Portland won their last 3, hope they crash back down.

[MarHill]

Sorry, but I'm just not into mediocrity. With the kind of money these guys make I expect them to give 110% each and every game. When they need a breather then Pop can pull them out. I am not asking for a victory each and every night. I am asking for them to play like they care, to play hard and generally give a damn and they are just not showing that lately. This is not looking like a championship year when you compare the rolls we got on in previous championship years. Maybe that fag Cuban needs to come light a fire in our guys ass because Pop sure ain't doing it.

What are you talking about?

40-20 is not mediocrity! That is the 5th best record in the league and 2nd seed in the west.

You are just talking with no sense!!

:bang

[Manufan909]

What are you talking about?

40-20 is not mediocrity! That is the 5th best record in the league and 2nd seed in the west.

You are just talking with no sense!!

:bang

+1

Anyone know the combined # of games Tony, Tim, and Manu have missed? I think they've had the injury bug as bad or worse than Houston, but Utah takes the cake from my guesstimation(Boozer was out forever, Deron was out too, but idk who their 3rd best guy is).

[mexicanjunior]

I was upset about this loss but TO just got cut so...Christmas has come early.

[Xylus]

I know we would have liked to have won for you, but Cuban pulled the 15 minute you better win or you're fired talk and the Mavs played very well.
Sorry dude...
:depressed

It's cool, not like it matters. Just when winning matters most, the Suns go on a 2-game losing streak. Such is a the mental fortitude of my team.

[SouthTexasRancher]

What are you talking about?

40-20 is not mediocrity! That is the 5th best record in the league and 2nd seed in the west.

You are just talking with no sense!!

:bang


Obviously marhill, you and I definitely have a different set of standards. I am into winning and you seem to think playing halfass is A-OK. If the way they played in Portland got you all excited then so be it. If you think us losing to the Cavs the other night got you all excited then so be it. And if you think us beating up on the lowly Clippers was showing the league that we are the big badasses on the block then you obviously have never been involved in anything that calls for being competitive.

Sorry kid, but you are wasting my time.

[duncan228]

Face it Tim is either injured or Lazy with no heart.

Duncan is injured. He just got back Monday from missing a week.

I never understood any so-called Spurs fan who could possibly think Duncan is lazy with no heart. Pop, when Duncan couldn't play last week:


I just think he's too important to us. When he said he couldn't go on Tuesday, that affects me. He doesn't say that. He doesn't miss anything. He doesn't miss practices. When he says that, that worries me.

Duncan is the heart and soul of this team. His work ethic is impeccable. He had a lousy game, but to call out his heart for the game, this team, is sad.

It's Duncan's heart that brought 4 Titles home.

Fuck.

[Fernando TD21]

Duncan is injured. He just got back Monday from missing a week.

I never understood any so-called Spurs fan who could possibly think Duncan is lazy with no heart. Pop, when Duncan couldn't play last week:



Duncan is the heart and soul of this team. His work ethic is impeccable. He had a lousy game, but to call out his heart for the game, this team, is sad.

It's Duncan's heart that brought 4 Titles home.

Fuck.
True. I can't believe some of these comments come from Spurs fans.

[Obstructed_View]

I was upset about this loss but TO just got cut so...Christmas has come early.

+1 :tu