No Malik at all in the second half?

[Buddy Holly]

He could have been effective (defense wise) if given the shot. :depressed

His defense might have helped when the Mavs went on their runs. I don't think suggesting playing him is that radical, is it?

[ducks]

yeah and so could have poops according to you

[EricB]

:lol

Pops leaves,

in comes savior Malik.

[Buddy Holly]

yeah and so could have poops according to you

Que?

[Buddy Holly]

:lol

Pops leaves,

in comes savior Malik.

Did Ducks steal TPark's username?

[bigdog]

:lol

Pops leaves,

in comes savior Malik.

:lol

Guys, I like Malik alot. He hustles his ass off, plays decent defense for an undersized forward/guard, but he isn't going to be a major contributor. Let him develop as the season goes along. He's not an offensive threat yet.

[lefty]

Malik Rose? :D

[EricB]

:lol

Guys, I like Malik alot. He hustles his ass off, plays decent defense for an undersized forward/guard, but he isn't going to be a major contributor. Let him develop as the season goes along. He's not an offensive threat yet.


Malik is what he is.

He's a 4 A player.

Too good for the D League, not good enough yet for the NBA.

That simple.

[i LUV da SpURZ]

fuck it, i was waiting for udoka 2 come out the phone booth and save ussss

ahaa

[Buddy Holly]

Malik is what he is.

He's a 4 A player.

Too good for the D League, not good enough yet for the NBA.

That simple.

What? Did you just pull that out of your ass? :lol

[EricB]

What? Did you just pull that out of your ass? :lol


Rather insult me rather than address the truth?

No problem.

[Buddy Holly]

Rather insult me rather than address the truth?

No problem.

What truth? What's 4 A? Is there truth in opinion because aside from a made up term, that's all you'd brought with that post?

p.s.

Insult you? Man you're getting really soft. Is it the name change?

[EricB]

What truth? What's 4 A? Is there truth in opinion because aside from a made up term, that's all you'd brought with that post?

p.s.

Insult you? Man you're getting really soft. Is it the name change?


4A player is a term from baseball.

Too good for the minors, but not good enough for the majors.

Malik Hairston right now as we speak, is a 4A player.

[EricB]

He needs to develop his jump shot and work on his passing and he could be a good role player in a year or two. I can see him taking a Roger Mason type path.

Jump shot yeah, passing? eh, no big deal to me.

Malik should be fine with a summer in the gym with Tony and Chip.

[Buddy Holly]

4A player is a term from baseball.

Too good for the minors, but not good enough for the majors.

For a minute there I thought we were talking basketball. My bad.


Malik Hairston right now as we speak, is a 4A player.

No, no he's not.

[ducks]

so he is a superstar?

[Buddy Holly]

so he is a superstar?

Only you Ducks, only you.

[EricB]

For a minute there I thought we were talking basketball. My bad.



No, no he's not.


:lol

Pardon me, he should be starting.

:rolleyes


Yeah he is not good enough to be a consistent 18 to 20 minute a game player.

Again people, these guys are NOT on the bench because Pop hates them.

They are there, for. a . reason....

[Buddy Holly]

:lol

Pardon me, he should be starting.

Yes because those are the only two opinions, those two extremes. 4A or starting. You're either a made up 4A player or starter. Keep bringing the goods Eric. :lol


Yeah he is not good enough to be a consistent 18 to 20 minute a game player.

But his defense is good enough so that when we're getting pounded that inserting him wouldn't hurt and could help. HOW HARD IS THAT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND?


Again people, these guys are NOT on the bench because Pop hates them.

They are there, for. a . reason....

Because Pop says so. But we all know Pop is not infallible.

[ducks]

and we all know you are the best ever thing since slice bread

why do you not coach
8 coaches were fired not to long ago
apply!

[Buddy Holly]

and we all know you are the best ever thing since slice bread

When you think about it, was slice bread really that great of an invention?

[ducks]

depends if you like slice bread idiot

[Buddy Holly]

depends if you like slice bread idiot

I like sliced bread but I wouldn't put it up there with the likes of the pet rock, vanishing ink, x-ray glasses and the chia pet as far as best inventions ever. Would you?

[Manufan909]

:lol

Pardon me, he should be starting.

:rolleyes


Yeah he is not good enough to be a consistent 18 to 20 minute a game player.

Again people, these guys are NOT on the bench because Pop hates them.

They are there, for. a . reason....

Yeah, Pop always make the right decision when it comes to minutes...coughFincough

And to BH, he fucked up on D more than once(and fouled Howard twice, but you can expect that from rookies, they always get the calls against) and blew a layup where he was standing under the basket, but imo he should've had more than one chance. Fin didn't even earn HALF of his 39 minutes, but whatevz.

[ducks]

no computers were cooler

[Manufan909]

I like sliced bread but I wouldn't put it up there with the likes of pet rock, vanishing ink, x-ray glasses and so on for best inventions ever. Would you?

Don't forget sporks!!!!!!!!:p:

[Buddy Holly]

no computers were cooler

:toast

[EricB]

Yeah, Pop always make the right decision when it comes to minutes...coughFincough

And to BH, he fucked up on D more than once(and fouled Howard twice, but you can expect that from rookies, they always get the calls against) and blew a layup where he was standing under the basket, but imo he should've had more than one chance. Fin didn't even earn HALF of his 39 minutes, but whatevz.

If Fin didn't earn his minutes, and Hairston didn't, who the fuck plays?

[Buddy Holly]

If Fin didn't earn his minutes, and Hairston didn't, who the fuck plays?

You? Or was that a rhetorical question? :wow

[Manufan909]

If Fin didn't earn his minutes, and Hairston didn't, who the fuck plays?

You do realize Hairston had 3.5 minutes to show his stuff, no? Fin doesn't earn shit, I wouldn't be suprised if his crap shooting nights he only got 5-7 less minutes than when he's hot. His play just doesn't affect his PT.

And I understand a rookie having a short leash, but not even a 2nd chance, WTF???

[EricB]

You? Or was that a rhetorical question? :wow


wtf?

Hairston's play in the first half did not earn him squat in the second thats for damn sure.

Howard beat him like a rented mule and the blown wide open layup was weak.

[EricB]

You do realize Hairston had 3.5 minutes to show his stuff, no? Fin doesn't earn shit, I wouldn't be suprised if his crap shooting nights he only got 5-7 less minutes than when he's hot. His play just doesn't affect his PT.

And I understand a rookie having a short leash, but not even a 2nd chance, WTF???


2nd chance to suck even worse?


He's a 2nd round D Leaguer. He doesn't deserve shit.

[Buddy Holly]

wtf?

Hairston's play in the first half did not earn him squat in the second thats for damn sure.

So we're judging players in three minute blocks? I guess continuing to suck defensively warrants that type of retarded logic.

[Manufan909]

2nd chance to suck even worse?


He's a 2nd round D Leaguer. He doesn't deserve shit.

There's a 2nd round of the D League, wtf are you smoking?

And I find it curious you are not arguing at all my point about Fin not having to earn minutes. What, was he 2-2 in the first half? I doubt it. Someone who plays 37 minutes should have more than FIVE POINTS, if said player is a scorer and 3pt specialist.

[Buddy Holly]

2nd chance to suck even worse?


He's a 2nd round D Leaguer. He doesn't deserve shit.

If Pop shoot you in the ass with a gun would you rationalize as well?

[Manufan909]

Hell, Bonner had 11 in 21 minutes. At least he had one bright spot in this game, Fin did not. Yet he played as much or more than the Big 2+Mason.

[Manufan909]

I wonder if OV or benefactor want in on this asswhipping, or maybe they think we have it covered?

[EricB]

There's a 2nd round of the D League, wtf are you smoking?

And I find it curious you are not arguing at all my point about Fin not having to earn minutes. What, was he 2-2 in the first half? I doubt it. Someone who plays 37 minutes should have more than FIVE POINTS, if said player is a scorer and 3pt specialist.

Drafted in the second round, played in the D League.


Thats fine if you want to bench Fin, but play who instead? You've yet to answer that.

You want Malik Hairston taking open jumpers in the 4th quarter?

[Obstructed_View]

Keeping Bonner out so long was the big puzzler, especially with the offense struggling.

[EricB]

If Pop shoot you in the ass with a gun would you rationalize as well?


Grow up.

Malik hairston is a fucking D leaguer, stop making him more than he fucking is.

[porscha]

hairston sucks

[EricB]

Keeping Bonner out so long was the big puzzler, especially with the offense struggling.

5 fouls will do that.

[Obstructed_View]

I wonder if OV or benefactor want in on this asswhipping, or maybe they think we have it covered?

Que?

[Obstructed_View]

5 fouls will do that.

Yeah, you gotta save him because your fouls don't reset at the end of the game.

[Buddy Holly]

Grow up.

Malik hairston is a fucking D leaguer, stop making him more than he fucking is.

He's in the NBA being judged by you, sorry, he's more than a D League[r].

Question, if someone with Finley's current skills and capabilities were in the 2008 draft does he get drafted in the late second round or not at all?

[EricB]

He's in the NBA being judged by you, sorry, he's more than a D League[r].

Question, if someone with Finley's current skills and capabilities were in the 2008 draft does he get drafted in the late second round or not at all?


A middle late 30s jump shooting shooting guard probobly wouldn't get drafted well I agree.

[EricB]

Yeah, you gotta save him because your fouls don't reset at the end of the game.


He came in with 5 fouls and fouled out in seconds.

The refs weren't letting him play for shit tonight. Thats how it goes.

[Buddy Holly]

A middle late 30s jump shooting shooting guard probobly wouldn't get drafted well I agree.

I know Tpark isn't that stupid so let's hope EricB isn't either. Answer the question I gave you.

[Obstructed_View]

Hairston played better defense than Bowen or Udoka did. His big defensive mistake was leaving Howard in the corner to rotate to Kidd, but the vets left Howard wide open at the three point line several times after that. That said, the whole team collectively played bad enough defense that combined with inept offensive sets they were lucky to even be close at the end.

[Manufan909]

Nothing, I was just curious why you were viewing but not posting.

And to tpark, Hairston would've probably driven, and succeeded in doing so. If Hairston and Fin are both cold, at least Hairston has youth, athleticism, and nice D on his side. The play in the 1st quarter was the worst I've seen from him in his short career as a Spur. IIRC, he didn't do too well in the 1st quarter against the Clips, but picked it up in the third. Going off my memory of timvps gt though, so feel free to blast me.

[Obstructed_View]

He came in with 5 fouls and fouled out in seconds.

The refs weren't letting him play for shit tonight. Thats how it goes.

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize he actually fouled out. Airmail on my part.

[Manufan909]

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize he actually fouled out. Airmail on my part.

Were you multitasking or something, cuz Bonner made a loop on the court muttering under his breath before sitting down.

[benefactor]

We probably still would have lost whether or not Hairston got back on the court. The defense as a whole was garbage tonight.

As far as Hairston goes...he is a rookie with potential, but a rookie nonetheless. Judgment is reserved until we see where he is next season.

[Obstructed_View]

Were you multitasking or something, cuz Bonner made a loop on the court muttering under his breath before sitting down.
Yeah, my kids came in asking why daddy was yelling at the TV, and I sort of resigned myself to the loss. I hadn't thought it through why Bonner wasn't in there, but he had three pretty quick fouls in the third so I should have put it together. I just didn't.

[Obstructed_View]

We probably still would have lost whether or not Hairston got back on the court. The defense as a whole was garbage tonight.

Yeah, that's definitely true. This was also probably the best effort anyone's going to see from the Mavs this year, as they just got yelled at by the boss. I'd like to see some 48 minute efforts put together in a row.

[Manufan909]

Yeah, that's definitely true. This was also probably the best effort anyone's going to see from the Mavs this year, as they just got yelled at by the boss. I'd like to see some 48 minute efforts put together in a row.

Indeed. It seems lame to acknowledge variables like the Mavs getting chewed out by Cuban, but that's the NBA. Sometimes enough shit goes wrong, but the fault was most definitely the D tonight, if the Spurs get over 95, they had a great night on offense.

And I hope no one believes I think Hairston taking 10-15 minutes from Fin makes the Spurs win(when I typed that, I almost did:lol), but if Fin shoots 25% and plays damn near the whole game, that just boggles my mind. Only TP and Mason truly deserved their minutes. Hell TP got like 39 pts, but I didn't even notice. He's just that good, and this coming from a member of CoM and CoPBM.:hat

[Obstructed_View]

I won't make a lot of friends for saying this, but the Spurs could have used JV running the point tonight. Parker was good offensively but did very little to help the team score, and when you aren't playing defense or scoring on the break, you need to take smart shots. Any number of things could have been the difference in the game, and there's really not anything to be satisfied about. I was much happier with the effort against the Cavs, even though they got blown out.

[MasonMadness]

:lol

Guys, I like Malik alot. He hustles his ass off, plays decent defense for an undersized forward/guard, but he isn't going to be a major contributor. Let him develop as the season goes along. He's not an offensive threat yet.



I agree completely

[Chomag]

Man whats with people throwing our young players under the bus latley? Its as if they have to all be All-star type players right now our they are just garbage and don't belong on our team.

So much hate for Hairston, Pops and even Hill lately it's crazy. These guys have done nothing but hustle and work hard for the Team.

Sure they make a mistake here and there but if you don't think our vets and even the Big 3 make mistakes you are pretty blind.

Hairston did not let the Mavs score 107 on us. Our team did that.

[underdawg]

Man whats with people throwing our young players under the bus latley? Its as if they have to all be All-star type players right now our they are just garbage and don't belong on our team.

So much hate for Hairston, Pops and even Hill lately it's crazy. These guys have done nothing but hustle and work hard for the Team.

Sure they make a mistake here and there but if you don't think our vets and even the Big 3 make mistakes you are pretty blind.

Hairston did not let the Mavs score 107 on us. Our team did that.

cuz these guys are scrubs - we have nothing but All Stars on our squad - Finley, Udoka, Bonner, Oberto, Vaughn. If any of these guys were playing on another team they would double their stats easily. Tim, Tony and Manu are ok, but they've only done well because of the fact that our bench is basically made up of players that could be starters on any team in the NBA. Gooden is more like it - he's going to come in and average about 5 blocks a game along with his 20 and 10 -guaranteed.

[crc21209]

I like Malik, as do many people here. And we all want him to take Udoka's minutes but I dont see it happening. Pop used Udoka last yr in the playoffs so of course he has some attachment to him still. But man watching Ime out there makes me wish Manu was back already because once Manu gets back, Ime's ass is going back to the bench where he belongs! Our guard rotation should be TP/Hill/Mason/Manu with Bowen and Finley at the SF spot.

[thOOdee]

FREE MALIK!!!!!!!!!
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8491/freemalik.jpg

[Austin_Toros]

No idea if this has been posted yet:

"Malik Hairston botched a few [defensive] covers early, too, and Popovich sat him the rest of the way."
-Buck Harvey

[Capt Bringdown]

I don't understand Pop's "one mistake and you're out for the rest of the game" philosophy when it comes to rooks and/or new players.

I think a specific policy of "do little else but shoot bricks all night and you just might have to have some of your mintues shaved" might be a better approach, especially when it comes to Finley.

Sure, Finley had the great quarter the other night, soon to be followed by a string of 2 for 8 brickfests. So we can be patient enough with Finley's frequent disappearing acts across many games, but heaven forbid a rookie has a few bad possesions.

[SenorSpur]

wtf?

Hairston's play in the first half did not earn him squat in the second thats for damn sure.

Howard beat him like a rented mule and the blown wide open layup was weak.

Howard beat Finley like a rented mule on many, many more occasions, too.

[SenorSpur]

No idea if this has been posted yet:

"Malik Hairston botched a few [defensive] covers early, too, and Popovich sat him the rest of the way."
-Buck Harvey

Understand. That still doesn't explain why Finley gets a longer leash. He may not botch as many covers, but his inability to stay in front of his man, failure to box out and cold-shooting certainly do not warrant his extended minutes. In such situation, I'd prefer more Bowen and less Finley.

[Brazil]

I won't make a lot of friends for saying this, but the Spurs could have used JV running the point tonight. Parker was good offensively but did very little to help the team score, and when you aren't playing defense or scoring on the break, you need to take smart shots. Any number of things could have been the difference in the game, and there's really not anything to be satisfied about. I was much happier with the effort against the Cavs, even though they got blown out.

G Hill as back up PG anybody ?

[Ocotillo]

Finley??

[JoshO501]

i actually think it would of been nice to see malik come in during the second half. if nothing else was working why not give him a shot.

[VI_Massive]

I think the short leash on Hairston was a measure Pop took to make sure the young guy realizes that his minutes can come and go with performance.

That being said, I am continually mystified by Pops' love affair with Finley. He is so maddeningly inconsistent offensively and its not like he's bringing the killer D to justify those minutes. I'm beginning to think he has some incriminating photos of Pop drinking a subpar Merlot or something.

[rayray2k8]

Do you honestly believe Hairston is gonna get playing time
in a tight game during the playoffs?

[VI_Massive]

Do you honestly believe Hairston is gonna get playing time
in a tight game during the playoffs?

Not likely unless we have an injury or foul trouble or some other extenuating circumstance.

But, I could see Pop bringing him in as someone with some extra fouls to put on a Kobe or LeBron or just as part of a strategy of throwing different guys and different looks at a killer player like that. Let me be clear, I'm NOT saying Hairston will have major minutes guarding one of these guys, but a lot of coaches, Pop included, like to throw different looks at a top-flight player, to keep them off balance, guessing etc. I can see Hairston as being part of such an approach.

The only other time I see Hairston playing meaningful playoff minutes is as a change of pace type guy Pop brings in if we're stagnant. That's usually Manu's job, but if he's failing at it I could see Hairston getting some minutes there.

[rayray2k8]

Not likely unless we have an injury or foul trouble or some other extenuating circumstance.

But, I could see Pop bringing him in as someone with some extra fouls to put on a Kobe or LeBron or just as part of a strategy of throwing different guys and different looks at a killer player like that. Let me be clear, I'm NOT saying Hairston will have major minutes guarding one of these guys, but a lot of coaches, Pop included, like to throw different looks at a top-flight player, to keep them off balance, guessing etc. I can see Hairston as being part of such an approach.

The only other time I see Hairston playing meaningful playoff minutes is as a change of pace type guy Pop brings in if we're stagnant. That's usually Manu's job, but if he's failing at it I could see Hairston getting some minutes there.

Hmm, you got a point.
Depending on Manu's ankle, they might have to give Malik a try in the playoffs.
So I get what you're saying..

[bigdog]

G Hill as back up PG anybody ?

Please stop using Mason as a backup PG.

When I saw that Mason came into the game to replace Parker instead of Hill, I cringed. Then Mason turned the ball over......and then he turned it over again. HE IS NOT A PG.

[iilluzioN]

Malik Hairston just needs more playing time! Hes doing a great job out there and he seems ready for the NBA.

Im sure he will get that jump shoot down, and improve on hes D.... but simply he needs mroe playing time and im pretty sure he will get the MIN next year, once Udoka leaves, maybe even fin

[Obstructed_View]

G Hill as back up PG anybody ?

He's not, though. Pop's using Mason as the back up PG, and Hill's not really any better at running the offense. On a night where Parker is shooting and not passing, they need a pass first PG. I'd bet that last night was one of the worse nights for the Spurs in assists.

As for Hairston's one mistake costing him playing time, that's just Pop being a fucking retard. Hairston left Howard to cover Kidd, who somebody left wide open at the three point line, and the Mavs were smart enough to pass the ball back the other direction. After Hairston was yanked, how many times were either Kidd or Howard left for wide open threes? Ten times? Twenty times? But the rookie doesn't get any PT because it's all his fault. Idiotic.

I'd rather the Spurs have traded Hill and Hairston if Pop isn't going to get them some fucking burn before the playoffs, or at least let them make mistakes and learn from them.

[Das Texan]

Malik played like shit in his short time last night. Simple as that.

[VI_Massive]

Malik played like shit in his short time last night. Simple as that.

Agreed. He's on a short leash because he's a rookie. I know it has to do with Manu's injury and Udoka's ineptitude, but I've been amazed at how MUCH Hairston has been playing. He's been the first guy off the bench the past three or four games and has seen good minutes in all except last night.

I think we have to remember that Hill didn't play the point in college, this is his first year doing it. It takes college point guards a few years to blossom in the NBA and it will take Hill time too. In the meantime, he can do well at guarding the other team's best small player and trying to add some hustle plays on offense and the boards. He's going to be a great back-up for TP one day, but not now, not in his first season. He can still contribute in the playoffs though.

We will use Mason as a back-up PG in the playoffs, I think. He's not incredible at it, but he is a huge pull-up jumper threat whereas Manu is a drive and kick threat when he runs the backup point. I think Pop likes these threats more than having an assist-first type PG. Parker isn't that type of player and I don't think Pop wants that kind of guard. Anyways, I don't think TP will be resting much in the playoffs anyway, so I expect back-up PG minutes to be pretty limited.

[Chomag]

He's not, though. Pop's using Mason as the back up PG, and Hill's not really any better at running the offense. On a night where Parker is shooting and not passing, they need a pass first PG. I'd bet that last night was one of the worse nights for the Spurs in assists.

As for Hairston's one mistake costing him playing time, that's just Pop being a fucking retard. Hairston left Howard to cover Kidd, who somebody left wide open at the three point line, and the Mavs were smart enough to pass the ball back the other direction. After Hairston was yanked, how many times were either Kidd or Howard left for wide open threes? Ten times? Twenty times? But the rookie doesn't get any PT because it's all his fault. Idiotic.

I'd rather the Spurs have traded Hill and Hairston if Pop isn't going to get them some fucking burn before the playoffs, or at least let them make mistakes and learn from them.

I completely agree with you. These guys have shown promise but how the hell are they going to improve when they make a mistake by pulling them out and burying them at the end of the bench... heh I wonder what they think when they see the vets in there doing the same thing over and over? Funny that you would think that the vets are the ones that should have a smaller leash on mistakes because they really don't have a reason to be messing up.

Like I said a few posts ago. Hairston did not let the Mavs score 107,but the team did. Why should Hairston be the one punished?

[Manufan909]

He's not, though. Pop's using Mason as the back up PG, and Hill's not really any better at running the offense. On a night where Parker is shooting and not passing, they need a pass first PG. I'd bet that last night was one of the worse nights for the Spurs in assists.

As for Hairston's one mistake costing him playing time, that's just Pop being a fucking retard. Hairston left Howard to cover Kidd, who somebody left wide open at the three point line, and the Mavs were smart enough to pass the ball back the other direction. After Hairston was yanked, how many times were either Kidd or Howard left for wide open threes? Ten times? Twenty times? But the rookie doesn't get any PT because it's all his fault. Idiotic.

I'd rather the Spurs have traded Hill and Hairston if Pop isn't going to get them some fucking burn before the playoffs, or at least let them make mistakes and learn from them.

+1

If ST coached the Spurs, they'd be in 11th-15th place in the west though.:p: But rookies having no room for error and the Fin mancrush are my 2 biggest gripes with Pop. A solution to both is Pop being convinced that if anyone fucks up big/is cold/plays crappy D, they are OUT. Exceptions would be the Big 3, but not 4th-12th options. Hell, Fin isn't even top 5 anymore in that regard. And concerning rookies, they should get 2 chances at least before going to the doghouse. One chance with only 3 minutes is inexcusable.:bang:bang:bang

My biggest dream come true for next years season would be
A) Fin decides to retire after winning the LO.
B) Gist and Hairston become the 1st and 2nd options at SF after doing great in the preseason and Fin is behind Bowen on the depth chart.
C) Ian playing at least 77 games.
D) Fin doesn't start a single. fucking. game. Not even in the POs.
E) Ime and Fab leave for good.

I'm bound to have one of them come true.:flag:

[FvckMavs]

My biggest dream come true for next years season would be:
we signed Sheed for cheap.
and a healthy manu.

[Agloco]

yeah and so could have poops according to you

:lol

[VI_Massive]

I completely agree with you. These guys have shown promise but how the hell are they going to improve when they make a mistake by pulling them out and burying them at the end of the bench... heh I wonder what they think when they see the vets in there doing the same thing over and over? Funny that you would think that the vets are the ones that should have a smaller leash on mistakes because they really don't have a reason to be messing up.

Like I said a few posts ago. Hairston did not let the Mavs score 107,but the team did. Why should Hairston be the one punished?

I think its OK for Hairston to get yanked like he did. Turns out the rest of the team took a defensive dump as well, but it emphasizes the importance of every rotation and what is at stake.

I know Pop is really reluctant to play rookies and young guys, but of the top 5 teams in the league, other than Courtney Lee, are any rookies playing meaningful minutes? Hickson in Cleveland is the only other one I can think of. I think Hairston is on a short leash, but its an appropriately short one given the level we're playing at and what usually happens with rookies in the league.

[Manufan909]

My biggest dream come true for next years season would be:
we signed Sheed for cheap.
and a healthy manu.

Fuck yeah dude, thanks for mentioning that.

I guess I'd add Manu to C), and have the F) be a hope for Sheed to make it, and maybe even get Gooden to sign for cheap next season. If he proves to be the missing piece, of course.

Since he already picked the Spurs over money once, maybe he'll do so again if he gets a ring this year. Good thing the given big rotation to start in the offseason is Tim/Bonner/KT/Ian. Shouldn't be hard at all for top 30-40% bigs(Sheed, Dice, Gooden easily make that bar) to get solid minutes, especially if they can do 2 of rebound/play D/score in the post./ makes 3s like only a few players avg overall.

Getting even more off track, you think Bonner can stay above 45% this season from 3?

[VI_Massive]

Fuck yeah dude, thanks for mentioning that.

I guess I'd add Manu to C), and have the F) be a hope for Sheed to make it, and maybe even get Gooden to sign for cheap next season. If he proves to be the missing piece, of course.

Since he already picked the Spurs over money once, maybe he'll do so again if he gets a ring this year. Good thing the given big rotation to start in the offseason is Tim/Bonner/KT/Ian. Shouldn't be hard at all for top 30-40% bigs(Sheed, Dice, Gooden easily make that bar) to get solid minutes, especially if they can do 2 of rebound/play D/score in the post./ makes 3s like only a few players avg overall.

Getting even more off track, you think Bonner can stay above 45% this season from 3?

Maybe....he might not be getting many chances to miss with Gooden in the rotation.

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He could have been effective (defense wise) if given the shot. :depressed

His defense might have helped when the Mavs went on their runs. I don't think suggesting playing him is that radical, is it?

Hello? He was benched for defensive lapses.

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He was benched for one defensive lapse, which was really only that he was rotating to cover Kidd who someone else left wide open. Why wasn't the person who left Kidd open punished? The rest of the team was terrible on rotations. Funny that the guy who had the most to gain from the game time was punished.

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He was benched for one defensive lapse, which was really only that he was rotating to cover Kidd who someone else left wide open. Why wasn't the person who left Kidd open punished? The rest of the team was terrible on rotations. Funny that the guy who had the most to gain from the game time was punished.

It's just so much easier to blame the rookie I suppose. That and it was a great excuse to play Finley more minutes.

You know I'm starting to think there was no win win for Malik on that play. He probably would have been chewed out and pulled anyway had he not rotated over to kid who was wide open since he was the closest player to him to make that play.

[Keepin' it real]

Watching Hairston be the first guy off the bench was sad for me. It made me wonder -- have we really fallen that far? The guy hustles, but he has no O and only marginal D from what I've seen. (and I've seen more than 90% of the games.)

But then I felt better when I thought about how poorly the Spurs were playing yet were in the game until the end.

I don't mind seeing more of Hairston down the stretch to rest Bowen, Finley, etc., but when the playoffs start, I hope it's "Have a seat, Malik."

And after the Spurs win another ring, he can go work on that horrible jumpshot so he can contribute some O next season."