Which NFL team will be so desperate to get TO?

[JudynTX]

I'm betting on the Lions! :lmao

[seth210]

haha

my guess would be the raiders. they need wideouts bad and al davis is crazy enough to take T.O. detroit has calvin johnson and that dude is a freak.

[stretch]

Raiders or Titans.

Cowboys will miss the playoffs again, largely due to poor WR play. watch.

[Antoni_Laker]

TO to the Raiders is a popular link but I don't see it. As crazy as Davis is, I think he passes here to protect his 60 million investment at QB who is on the verge of becoming a bust. Signing TO all but guarantees it


Redskins? They mentioned this on Mike and Mike. 2 games against Dallas and Philly along with Snyder who is more capable of doing this. Maybe

New England? Another popular pick because of their success with Moss and Dillon, only problem is Moss and Owens can't stand each other.

My sleeper pick is Indy. Established QB, established franchise, big question mark at HC though. Just a hunch

[JudynTX]

TO to the Texans!

[Antoni_Laker]

With Andre Johnson? That would be an interesting 1-2 punch. Owens looks real good on alot of teams, on paper.

[JudynTX]

:nope I don't want his ass back in Philly, that's for sure.

[Antoni_Laker]

Yeah, you can basically rule Philly, New York Giants, and Miami out.

[stretch]

TO to the Raiders is a popular link but I don't see it. As crazy as Davis is, I think he passes here to protect his 60 million investment at QB who is on the verge of becoming a bust.

I'm a little curious as to how basically a rookie QB is already on the verge of becoming a bust? He put up a 77 QB rating, and threw a low # of INTs. I think he is far from being on the verge of becoming a bust. Those #'s arent bad for a rookie, considering how shitty his offense is. The only competent reciever he has is Zach Miller, who is a TE and is used to block more than he should be used, cuz their OL is so terrible.

[IronMexican]

I guess Antoni_Laker didn't watch Jamarcuss' last 3 games of the regular season once Mario Henderson started over Kwame Harris. All the Raiders need to do is get him a good line, and they will be set.

[mardigan]

Yay another T.O. thread!

[Antoni_Laker]

You guys are completely missing my point. For the #1 overall pick those numbers, and his play, are not promising numbers. You are looking at his numbers and assuming he will improve. I'm looking at those numbers and thinking that based on what we've seen of him so far, they won't. And if they don't, then he is a bust. Now take TO, who hand-picked Donavan by the way, and who couldn't get along with other established QBs he's played with and you pair him up with Russell? Recipe for disaster, and that's why Davis won't do it.

[monosylab1k]

You guys are completely missing my point. For the #1 overall pick those numbers, and his play, are not promising numbers. You are looking at his numbers and assuming he will improve. I'm looking at those numbers and thinking that based on what we've seen of him so far, they won't.

Why are you assuming they won't?

:flag::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[florige]

I wouldn't mind the Ravens picking him up. He would be a hell of a target for Flacco. The son of a bitch is all world when he stays on his meds.

[monosylab1k]

Jamarcus Russell's progress in his first 2 seasons is actually pretty comparable to John Elway's first 2 seasons. I always thought Elway was overrated, but even so, I'm guessing Raider fans won't complain if Russell keeps progressing that way.

spurs have 4 rings

[JamStone]

San Diego Chargers.

[jack sommerset]

Mort from ESPN said only 1 team might want him......The Raiders. I think if T.O would take half of what The Cowboys were paying him alot of team would take a shot at him. And once again a NFL contract means SHIT.

[jack sommerset]

Don't underestimate T.O's agent, that guy is damn good

[IronMexican]

If signing T.O. means staying away from Crabtree with the #7 pick, I am all for it. I really want to grab an O-Linemen or BJ Raji.

[IronMexican]

You guys are completely missing my point. For the #1 overall pick those numbers, and his play, are not promising numbers. You are looking at his numbers and assuming he will improve. I'm looking at those numbers and thinking that based on what we've seen of him so far, they won't. And if they don't, then he is a bust. Now take TO, who hand-picked Donavan by the way, and who couldn't get along with other established QBs he's played with and you pair him up with Russell? Recipe for disaster, and that's why Davis won't do it.

I wasn't looking at the stats. I watched all 16 Raider games and Russel was clearly improving towards the end of the season.

His problem is holding on the ball to long. But what were you going to do with your best receiver being Zach Miller and having the two worst Tackles in the NFL protecting you?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I wouldn't mind the Ravens picking him up. He would be a hell of a target for Flacco. The son of a bitch is all world when he stays on his meds.

ya he's supposed to take two a day.....unfortunately he has days where he accidentally take 33 more than that and almost kills himself.

[K-State Spur]

Mort from ESPN said only 1 team might want him......The Raiders. I think if T.O would take half of what The Cowboys were paying him alot of team would take a shot at him. And once again a NFL contract means SHIT.

are you an agent? it seems to really bother you that NFL contracts are enforced exactly how they are worded.

[florige]

ya he's supposed to take two a day.....unfortunately he has days where he accidentally take 33 more than that and almost kills himself.


:lol I doubt Oz would sign off on that deal with the way he spit in our face last time. You never know though.

[florige]

are you an agent? it seems to really bother you that NFL contracts are enforced exactly how they are worded.



Hey K-State how about your Skins? Would you mind if Snyder scooped him up?

[Blake]

#1 team right now has to be the Raiders.

but I wouldn't be surprised to see a desperate team that has playoff potential make a move.....

the Vikings come to mind.

[K-State Spur]

Hey K-State how about your Skins? Would you mind if Snyder scooped him up?

Yes I would. We have a couple of 2nd year guys that need to be given an opportunity.

Besides, the Skins reputation is for overpaying. They don't really have a track record for picking up malcontents.

TO's skills aren't going to get any better at this stage in his career. And, as his numbers go down, he's going to get crankier, and it'll just be a perpetual toilet bowl from here on out.

[jack sommerset]

are you an agent? it seems to really bother you that NFL contracts are enforced exactly how they are worded.

Its wrong and I am pointing it out. And if the T.O goes to the Skins remember he is 35-36, its not like he will be there but 1-2 years tops. He would help those young WR's and that offense.

Like I said I don't buy all this "he ruins team" thing and if he does go to a team he is without question on his last legs. Whoever gets him T.O will be quiet. Gurantee it!

[K-State Spur]

Its wrong and I am pointing it out. And if the T.O goes to the Skins remember he is 35-36, its not like he will be there but 1-2 years tops. He would help those young WR's and that offense.

Like I said I don't buy all this "he ruins team" thing and if he does go to a team he is without question on his last legs. Whoever gets him T.O will be quiet. Gurantee it!

he wouldn't help them because santana moss is going nowhere, so neither Kelly or Thomas would be able to get much field time. and TO sure as hell wouldn't be content sharing snaps with them.


if NFL contracts are so wrong, I wish I could be so wronged. coal miners' deals are wrong. teachers' salaries are wrong. firemen make far less compared to the service that they provide.

Professional athletes' contracts - even those without guaranteed deals (and they sign those contracts KNOWING that the deal is not guaranteed - they NEGOTIATE for other things knowing that the deal is not guaranteed), there's nothing underhanded taking place.

[K-State Spur]

LOL at ESPN's rumor on the front page that Owens could team up with Santana Moss. They're just plain lazy. Any time any big name hits the market, they speculate him to DC - whether there is any actual evidence to it or not.

This was posted on the Redskins site this morning:

“[Owens’s representatives] called us three years ago before he went to Dallas, and we didn’t have interest then,” Cerrato said. “Why would we have interest when he’s three years older now? We have no interest.”

[Harry Callahan]

The best situation for T.O. was Dallas and he's stupid enough to screw that up. There's no hope for a petulant 35 year old child.

Obama should hire him as his press secretary. The current one isn't working out.

[jack sommerset]

he wouldn't help them because santana moss is going nowhere, so neither Kelly or Thomas would be able to get much field time. and TO sure as hell wouldn't be content sharing snaps with them.


if NFL contracts are so wrong, I wish I could be so wronged. coal miners' deals are wrong. teachers' salaries are wrong. firemen make far less compared to the service that they provide.

Professional athletes' contracts - even those without guaranteed deals (and they sign those contracts KNOWING that the deal is not guaranteed - they NEGOTIATE for other things knowing that the deal is not guaranteed), there's nothing underhanded taking place.

:lmao I could not disagree with someone more. Atleast you are being honest. You are jealous that these players make so much money.

You compare a CONTRACT to a teachers salary or a coal minor. A NFL player who can barley walk the day after a game. NFL average work life span is 5 years so they better have a back up plan.These players are drafted so they donot have a choice in who they play for. They can lose their job at anytime. These peoples lives are broadcasted all over the world so you can bitch about them. Not talking football either. But they make millions so fuck them. Classic dude.

The money is there for the players thanks to people like us. I am sure you shelled out the bucks for tickets,cable, merchandise,etc. Someone is getting the money. If you think the players are rich take a peak at the owners take,the CEO's who sponsor these teams, the network big wigs who cover the games. A contract is a contract and out of the 4 major sports in the USA the NFL is the only ones who can rip up one the day after they all sign it. I think its the only business that gets away with this shit. But thats okay with u. Thats funny. Cuz they make more money than a fireman.

Seriously.... I don't give two shits how much these guys make. They actually deserve it because people pay for it. People like you back people like Jerry Jones. Fucking Jerry Jones, a selfish prick. Or Synder or any owner. You bitch about how much money these player make. Stop watching it bro. Stop feeding the machine if you really care that much. I for one will watch and buy and say everytime "contracts mean shit in the NFL" because they do. Pretty simple.

[K-State Spur]

:lmao I could not disagree with someone more. Atleast you are being honest. You are jealous that these players make so much money.

You compare a CONTRACT to a teachers salary or a coal minor. A NFL player who can barley walk the day after a game. NFL average work life span is 5 years so they better have a back up plan.These players are drafted so they donot have a choice in who they play for. They can lose their job at anytime. These peoples lives are broadcasted all over the world so you can bitch about them. Not talking football either. But they make millions so fuck them. Classic dude.

The money is there for the players thanks to people like us. I am sure you shelled out the bucks for tickets,cable, merchandise,etc. Someone is getting the money. If you think the players are rich take a peak at the owners take,the CEO's who sponsor these teams, the network big wigs who cover the games. A contract is a contract and out of the 4 major sports in the USA the NFL is the only ones who can rip up one the day after they all sign it. I think its the only business that gets away with this shit. But thats okay with u. Thats funny. Cuz they make more money than a fireman.

Seriously.... I don't give two shits how much these guys make. They actually deserve it because people pay for it. People like you back people like Jerry Jones. Fucking Jerry Jones, a selfish prick. Or Synder or any owner. You bitch about how much money these player make. Stop watching it bro. Stop feeding the machine if you really care that much. I for one will watch and buy and say everytime "contracts mean shit in the NFL" because they do. Pretty simple.

A contract is just a formal document - it can stipulate or mean anything. Just because it offers bonuses up front and says that it can be terminated at any time of the employer's discretion does not make it any less of a contract. It doesn't have to be exactly the same type of a contract that MLB or the NBA offers to be equally valid.

And you make a hell of a lot of assumptions about me based solely on my pointing out that you don't understand what a contract is.

[jack sommerset]

A contract is just a formal document - it can stipulate or mean anything. Just because it offers bonuses up front and says that it can be terminated at any time of the employer's discretion does not make it any less of a contract. It doesn't have to be exactly the same type of a contract that MLB or the NBA offers to be equally valid.

And you make a hell of a lot of assumptions about me based solely on my pointing out that you don't understand what a contract is.

I understand what a contract is and I am sorry if I offended you. Not my intention.

[IronMexican]

See sig.

[K-State Spur]

I understand what a contract is and I am sorry if I offended you. Not my intention.

Not at all. I just like to argue.