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RandomGuy
03-06-2009, 05:41 PM
Gotta love the economist for looking to say, actual science and shit.

Executive summary:
Bees might not be dying from a mysterious desease, there is evidence they are simply dying because of cheap beekeepers not feeding their bees the right mix of proteins.

Read on for full details.

The bees are back in town
Mar 5th 2009
From The Economist print edition

The economic crisis has contributed to a glut of bees in California. That raises questions about whether a supposed global pollination crisis is real

AT THE end of February, the orchards of California’s Central Valley are dusted with pink and white blossom, as millions of almond trees make their annual bid for reproduction. The delicate flowers attract pollinators, mostly honeybees, to visit and collect nectar and pollen. By offering fly-through hospitality, the trees win the prize of a brush with a pollen-covered bee and the chance of cross-pollination with another tree. In recent years, however, there has been alarm over possible shortages of honeybees and scary stories of beekeepers finding that 30-50% of their charges have vanished over the winter. It is called colony collapse disorder (CCD), and its cause remains a mystery.

Add to this worries about long-term falls in the populations of other pollinators, such as butterflies and bats, and the result is a growing impression of a threat to nature’s ability to supply enough nectar-loving animals to service mankind’s crops. This year, however, the story has developed a twist. In California the shortage of bees has been replaced by a glut.

Bee good to me
The annual orgy of sexual reproduction in the Californian almond orchards owes little to the unintended bounty of nature. Francis Ratnieks, a professor of apiculture at Sussex University who has worked on the state’s almond farms, says the crop is so large and intensively grown these days that it has greatly surpassed the region’s inherent ability to supply pollinators. Decades ago, when there were fewer almonds, farmers could rely on pollination just from the beekeepers who live in the Central Valley. Now, they have to import migrant apian labour.

Scientific AG, a firm based in Bakersfield, California, helps broker pollination deals between local almond growers and apiarists from across America. Joe Traynor, the pollination broker who founded Scientific AG, says that in the 1960s there were 100,000 acres (40,000 hectares) of groves. Today it is 700,000 acres and the industry claims it supplies 80% of the world’s almonds. In order to meet this pollination demand, more than a third of America’s beehives must be moved to California for the season. Such changes to the industry have been reflected in the prices for bee hives. In 1995 growers could rent a hive for $35. Today, says Mr Traynor, a strong colony would cost $150-200.

It is hard to pin down what has been causing honeybees to vanish. “People want it to be genetically modified crops, pollution, mobile-phone masts and pesticides,” says Dr Ratnieks, and it is “almost certainly none of those”. But he adds that such large losses to a population are not unusual in epidemics.

One explanation offered by both Dr Ratnieks and Mr Traynor is of a once-rare disease, possibly caused by the Israeli acute paralysis virus (IAPV), sweeping through colonies that have already been weakened by parasites such as Nosema ceranae, a parasitic fungus from Asia. Some have suggested that N. ceranae alone might be sufficient to cause CCD, as the fungus is believed to have been widespread since 2006, when CCD first became a problem. There is also Varroa, a parasitic mite, which has been another problem in bees for some time, and which might also transmit the IAPV. But there is almost certainly a further factor causing stress on the bees—a poor diet.

Bee-conomics
It is increasingly being recognised that managed bees need food supplements. In some places, a decline in the area of pasture land on which they can forage, the loss of weedy borders and the growth of crop monocultures mean it is hard for bees to find a wide enough range of pollen sources to obtain all their essential amino acids. In extreme cases they may not even find enough basic protein. Writing in Bee Culture this February, Mr Traynor observes that places where crops with low-protein pollens, such as blueberries and sunflowers, are grown are also places where CCD has appeared.

The suggestion is that poor nutrition has weakened the bees’ immune systems, making them more vulnerable to viruses and other parasites. Feeding bees supplements, rather than relying on their ability to forage in the wild, costs time and money. Many beekeepers therefore try to avoid it. Anecdote suggests, however, that those who do fork out find their colonies are far more resistant to CCD.

This year’s Californian bee glut, then, has been caused by a mixture of rising supply meeting falling demand. The price of almonds dropped by 30% between August and December last year, as people had less money in their pockets. That has caused growers to cut costs, and therefore hire fewer hives. There is also a drought in the region, and many farmers are unlikely to receive enough water to go ahead with the harvest. Meanwhile, the recent high prices for pollination contracts made it look worthwhile fattening bees up with supplements over the winter. That may help explain why there have been fewer colony collapses.

The rise and fall of the managed honeybee, then, owes as much to the economics of supply and demand as it does to the forces of nature. And if the nutrition and disease theory is correct, next year’s lower contract prices may see beekeepers cutting back on supplemental feeding, and a resurgence of CCD.

Bee off with you!
Despite the importance of the honeybee, none of this is evidence of a wide-scale pollination crisis or a threat that is specific to pollinators. No one has shown that colonies of wild bees are collapsing any more frequently than they used to. And while it is true that many species of butterflies, moths, birds, bats and other pollinators are in retreat, their problems are far more likely to mirror broader declines in biodiversity that are the result of well-known phenomena such as habitat loss and the intensification of agriculture.

Troubling though this loss of diversity is, it does not necessarily translate into a decline in the amount of pollination going on. Jaboury Ghazoul of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, writing in Trends in Ecology and Evolution in 2005, points out that the decline of bumblebees in Europe that has been observed recently mostly affects rare and specialised species—an altogether different problem.

Though the idea that there is a broader and costly pollination crisis under way is entrenched (the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation is spending $28m on a report investigating it), the true picture is cloudier. In 2006 America’s National Academy of Sciences released a report on the status of pollinators in North America that concluded “for most North American pollinator species, long-term population data are lacking and knowledge of their basic ecology is incomplete.” Simply put, nobody knows. As for the managed bees of America, Dr Ratnieks says that “the imminent death of the honeybee has been reported so many times, but it has not happened and is not likely to do so”.

desflood
03-06-2009, 06:24 PM
Cliffnotes?
The bees are fine.

Cant_Be_Faded
03-06-2009, 08:42 PM
I don't buy it. Need more evidence.

E20
03-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Fuck it, let the Bees die who cares. We can make our honey.

balli
03-06-2009, 08:45 PM
But we can't pollinate our crops.

Cant_Be_Faded
03-06-2009, 08:51 PM
Fuck it, let the Bees die who cares. We can make our honey.

Actually young padawan, bees dying off would be disastrous on multiple levels.

E20
03-06-2009, 08:55 PM
Bee's aren't the only ones tha pollinate flowers/crops. Butterflies, Bettles, other Insects Hummingbirds, Wind pollination, and if we're so advanced and if Bee's do die out, we should be able to replicate what Bee's do and pollinate the flowers ourselves by whatever means.

Okay yeah Honey tastes okay, but Bee's are annoying and they sting you. :(

E20
03-06-2009, 08:58 PM
BTW I'm acting stupid on purpose, I just have a personal grudge against Bees. :lol

Summers
03-07-2009, 11:33 AM
I thought this article was a joke when I read the first line. We didn't do shit to our bees when we "grew" honey when I was a kid, but then we lived in the middle of BFE farm country.

Wild Cobra
03-07-2009, 07:24 PM
The article makes perfect sense, but is it the cause? I would agree is probable. I still tend to believe it the the growing number and proximity of cell phone towers, but I'm open. It could be multiple causes that weaken the bees.

We know that nutrition is key to being healthy. Lacking an an essential amino acid or protein does make life, human or otherwise, more susceptible to health issues.

Wild Cobra
03-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Bee's aren't the only ones tha pollinate flowers/crops. Butterflies, Bettles, other Insects Hummingbirds, Wind pollination, and if we're so advanced and if Bee's do die out, we should be able to replicate what Bee's do and pollinate the flowers ourselves by whatever means.

Okay yeah Honey tastes okay, but Bee's are annoying and they sting you. :(

They are the only pollinator of crops like Almonds.

mogrovejo
03-07-2009, 08:08 PM
So, eco-alarmists were wrong again. What's next, Paris is a city?

dave
03-07-2009, 11:07 PM
nicolas cage hates bees

Wild Cobra
03-08-2009, 11:01 AM
So, eco-alarmists were wrong again. What's next, Paris is a city?
I don't know that they were wrong in this case. Something has been happening to the bees. I'm not one that believes in anthropogenic global warming, but I do believe we may be affecting the bees. I agree this is a large concern. As much as I hate spending tax dollars on research, this at least would be a good place to do so.

Don't underestimate the importance of bees.

balli
03-08-2009, 11:04 AM
^:lol

So, eco-alarmists were wrong again. What's next, Paris is a city?
I was going to say, if Cobra's on board than you know it must be bad.

dimsah
03-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I had read that a specific type of pesticide that contained nicotine had been causing problems with bees. It did not kill them but it essentially made them forget where their hives were located so they couldn't return.

Blake
03-08-2009, 03:06 PM
I had read that a specific type of pesticide that contained nicotine had been causing problems with bees. It did not kill them but it essentially made them forget where their hives were located so they couldn't return.

I had even read that the vast number of cell phone users was starting to through off bees 'signals'.....causing them to forget where they lived......

more bees in more places

RandomGuy
03-08-2009, 03:16 PM
All this said, the fact that the bee hives that were given the nutritional suppliments suddenly not dying off like they were before seems to strongly support the author's premise.

Wild Cobra
03-08-2009, 06:43 PM
I had even read that the vast number of cell phone users was starting to through off bees 'signals'.....causing them to forget where they lived......

more bees in more places
When I read something on that maybe a year ago, there was a conclusion that the bee populations were diminishing in a similar pattern with cell phone tower constructions, and modernization. Our All the USA has to the 1900 mhz band from the 950 mhz, and Europe is now using the 1800 and 2100 mhz bands, before the 900 mhz band. As a microwave communications technician, I can relate what that means. Take 1900 mhz for example. The wavelength of that frequency is 15.8 cm. A half wave dipole antenna for that frequency would be about 7.9 cm. Antennas are often made at 1/8th wavelength and still receive a large amount of the propagated radio signal, and at more angles. A 1/8th wavelength antenna would be 1.97 cm, or just over 3/4". The honey bee makes an effective antenna for cell phone tower transmissions. The effective voltage to the bee is small, not dangerous like a microwave oven would be, but it makes an effective demagnetizer if the bees navigation is based on magnetic fields at all.

All this said, the fact that the bee hives that were given the nutritional suppliments suddenly not dying off like they were before seems to strongly support the author's premise.
I would agree if that is true. I wonder how much research has been done in this area already? Again, it could be multiple causes. Proper nutrition does prevent a person from being as susceptible to health issues. We often don't see problems in less than best nutrition until something comes along requiring more vitamins, amino acids, etc. to prevent a problem. In theory, it can be both, or more.

mFFL03
03-08-2009, 08:56 PM
If we can make it to mars and the moon, I'm pretty sure we can find something to pollinate our crops.

Extra Stout
03-10-2009, 07:30 AM
Wild bees were never dying. It was always the cultivated bees. The notion that shortsighted businessmen would overwork and underfeed the bees, and that the bees therefore would die, and that the stupid shortsighted businessmen would look for a "mystery disease" to blame rather than their own stupidity, is just basic human nature.

RandomGuy
03-10-2009, 08:46 AM
Wild bees were never dying. It was always the cultivated bees. The notion that shortsighted businessmen would overwork and underfeed the bees, and that the bees therefore would die, and that the stupid shortsighted businessmen would look for a "mystery disease" to blame rather than their own stupidity, is just basic human nature.

You just hate the free market. :p: